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Sunday, Bloody Sunday

By Patrick Van Roy On March 10th, 2019 at 3:54 pm

Sunday, Bloody Sunday a guest post by Paul

A bit of a break from Brexit and London knife crime

Pat recently blogged a piece on the Alabama marches in ’65 which got me thinking about recent events at home. A number of British soldiers involved in the Bloody Sunday shooting dead of fourteen innocents in 1972 will learn next week if they are to be prosecuted for the killings:

Bloody Sunday: Ex-para’s comments condemned as ‘cold and brutal

This has of course led to fury within certain sections of the British military and political establishment, citing the release of prisoners as part of the Good Friday Agreement of 1998 where prisoners convicted prior to the signing of the agreement would be released on licence once they had served a minimum of two years would be released, as to why these prosecutions shouldn’t occur and that the soldiers responsible for the deaths were just following orders, (hmmmm).

The ever competent, (sarcasm off), British Government Secretay of State for Northern Ireland, Karen Bradley, further inflamed the issue earlier this week when she stated that :

Killings during the conflict by soldiers and police were “not crimes”, and That these people were “acting under orders and under instruction and fulfilling their duties in a dignified and appropriate way”

Tories have abandoned pretence of impartiality on North

Immediately after Bloody Sunday a judicial inquiry headed by Lord Chief Justice Lord Widgery was established to investigate the events of the day. After sitting for three weeks it concluded:

‘ that the soldiers had been fired on first, and there was “no reason to suppose” that the soldiers would have opened fire otherwise. (That) there would have been no deaths had there not been an illegal march, which created a “highly dangerous situation in which a clash between demonstrators and the security forces was almost inevitable”

After inconsistencies in the report the inquiry was branded a whitewash by Irish nationalists who agitated and campaigned for another inquiry which was established in 1998 and chaired by Lord Saville of Newdigate. After an
enormously expensive twelve years of investigation the Saville Report was published:
Main findings of Bloody Sunday inquiry

In the wake of Saville the then British Prime Minister David Cameron made a public apology on behalf of the British Government for Bloody Sunday:

Bloody Sunday: PM David Cameron’s full statement

So the question is, after almost fifty years should these soldiers, now old men, be held accountable for the shootings bearing in mind that the British ‘security forces’ were responsible for 10% of the deaths in the Irish conflict with more than just over 5% of those deaths being civilians and, to my knowledge, only four soldiers have ever been convicted of murder with each of them spending less that five years in jail and all being reinstated into the British Army and paid lost earnings upon release?

Our neighbour and family friend was murdered in the Ballymurphy Massacre in Belfast by the same regiment, and possibly even the same people, five months before the Paras ran amok in Derry. His children only want their father exonerated as an innocent and nothing more. I’d probably sway against prosecutions for Bloody Sunday but that may be easy for me to say as I didn’t have anyone murdered in the massacre.

On 3/9 the Lord Blessed the World with me

By Patrick Van Roy On March 9th, 2019 at 11:59 pm

Today was my Birthday and this is for me….


Our ale which art from heaven

swallowed be thy game,

they will be drunk I will be drunk…

at home or in a tavern,

give us this day our foamy head

and lead us not into incarceration

but deliver us from hangovers

forever and ever…  Barman!


By Pete Moore On March 9th, 2019 at 8:31 pm

My village has a lovely cafe/coffee shop place. It’s a family business, very friendly, a nice spot to drop into. Cyclists like it. Local clubs use it for a refresher on weekend runs. I popped in for an hour this morning. Had a lovely bacon and egg bap and a large, strong coffee with my Kindle.

Then someone ruined it by coming in and asking for a “chai latte”. I thought I’d left all that ponciness behind in London. This is the countryside. If we can’t draw a line at new things here then all is lost.


By Pete Moore On March 9th, 2019 at 8:21 pm

Makes you proud

Those immigrants have their vibrant urban culture. So do we stout yeomen of England. This week saw the 820th Atherstone Ball Game, in Mercia. It’s a medieval football match. It might look rough, but it does have its rules. Well not many rules to be honest, but one of them is that participants are not allowed to kill each other. That’s a serious rule violation.


By Pete Moore On March 8th, 2019 at 7:03 pm

Because Friday night is Music Night

I’m without the motor for the weekend. It’s making a noise that suggests driving it is a bad idea. I live in the countryside too, so I won’t be going anywhere far. It’s just me, the village pub and the 6 Nations on the TV. Pray that I come through it.

Apparently it’s International Woman’s Day, whatever that’s about. So we’ll have one for the ladies, by a lady. They can play it while they’re doing the ironing or cooking the husband’s dinner. I know, we have to look out for the little darlings.

Have fun whatever you’re up to and, as usual, share your top sounds down below –


By Pete Moore On March 8th, 2019 at 6:43 pm

On 22nd August 2015 this happened at the Shoreham Airshow, in southern England.

Somehow the pilot survived, being thrown clear. But 11 men were killed. All those empty fields and the pilot was over a road. Today he was found not guilty of manslaughter by gross negligence. The details are in this BBC News report. I dunno, I’m not a lawyer, but it looks to me as it didn’t just happen. It doesn’t look like one of those things. It looks like someone stuffed up.


By Pete Moore On March 8th, 2019 at 6:27 pm

A 37-year-old mother has been jailed after becoming the first person in the UK to be convicted of female genital mutilation (FGM).

The Ugandan woman mutilated her three-year-old daughter at their family home in east London in 2017.

She was jailed for 11 years for the FGM and a further two years for indecent images and extreme pornography.

It’s probably too much to hope that she’s deported when released. Don’t want to be too beastly to the immigrants. Walthamstow – where this happened – was alright when I grew up there. Now it’s a right little shop of Third World horrors. But at least we have an actual conviction for FGM after goodness knows how many thousands of girls have been mutilated.

Train up to Mersey

By Phantom On March 7th, 2019 at 11:07 pm

I was in London last week, for the normal champagne and caviar trip of 16 hour workdays while jet lagged. Still, a pleasure to be in the great world city.

Instead of going back to JFK on Thursday, I organized a side pleasure trip to Liverpool.

Liverpool, you say? I’d recently met a woman who was a Manchester native. She’d never been to Liverpool, despite the fact that she lived right next to it most of her life. None of my many London or other cronies had been to Liverpool either. No one goes there. So I had to go.

Liverpool has produced an unfairly large share of Britain’s musicians. The main attraction was the legacy of you-know-who.

The trip up there was an easy two hours plus on a Virgin train out of the sterile Euston station. I met up with a pal who flew in from Geneva on an Easyjet nonstop.

I really liked Liverpool. There were plenty of good bars, and a bunch of good restaurants. The locals could not have been friendlier.

I took this coach tour that took us past the Beatles’ childhood homes, and their old haunts. Guess which of them grew up in the nicest house?

The tour ended close to the rebuilt Cavern Club, where the Beatles played at 292 times back in the day . We went in, at around 12 noon, meaning to just tick the box at the famous place. But we really liked it, and wound up staying for six pints each. There were two stages with live music. One of the artists was a really good singer-songwriter named Richard Batty who you can follow right now on Spotify.

The Beatles legacy is everywhere there. They are a huge tourist draw. A zillion businesses are named after them or their songs.

I learned that Paul McCartney was very interested in forming Liverpool Institute of Performing Arts. He doesn’t just give money. He gives time to it. The graduates receive their degrees from McCartney personally.

I flew back nonstop out of nearby Manchester International Airport, an awful mess of a thing that is under construction. It was handy to get to by National Express bus.

Liverpool is in my memory book now, in my collection of places deserving of a return trip. And maybe a beer summit, Dave!


By Pete Moore On March 7th, 2019 at 8:33 pm

I see an interesting debate has broken out downstairs. It’s about whether or not humans have souls. I have no idea, being neither a theologian nor a Godless commie.

But a question occurs to me.

Some religious types will say that the spark of divinity exists in all people. Therefore to take a life is to offend against God. Or something like that. But if there is no God, no spark of divinity and no soul, what are we? Just a collection of cells really. Molecules, cells, chemical reactions and so on, arranged in stupefyingly complicated ways, but in the end just a collection of stuff found in the universe. So what then is the objection to murder? Surely it’s just a collection of cells doing something against another collection of cells, yes?


By Pete Moore On March 7th, 2019 at 8:25 pm

A French-born jihadist who spent a year fighting in Syria for the Islamic State group has been found guilty of the murder of four people in an anti-Semitic attack in Brussels in May 2014.

Mehdi Nemmouche, 33, opened fire with a Kalashnikov assault rifle and a handgun at the city’s Jewish Museum.

No no no no no. I don’t care what the laws say. I don’t care what international treaties say. These savages, where it’s known that they supported and joined with Daesh, must be kept out. Change the laws and treaties if necessary. Innocent lives literally depend on it. I don’t care what the human rights lawyers say. They can be invited to shut it.

It is simply not liberal, in any true sense of the word, to tolerate preventable murder at the hands of known genocidal terrorists.