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Cheers! …Maybe not….

By ATWadmin On November 15th, 2006

Frosty, Rageh Omar and Darren Jordon, as well as Mark Seddon, the former editor of left-wing newspaper Tribune feature amongst the journalistic talent at Al jazeera. Not sure if they were part of the crew of journos being forced to undertake cultural awareness classes on how to behave in a muslim country. This follows what seems to have been a typically journalistic drinking sesh (or two!)  in the run up to the launch. These are undoubtedly the same bunch that would preach the joys of multi culturalism at the BBC – reminded here that it doesn’t cut both ways.

Sources based at Al-Jazeera’s Doha headquarters say that a clash of cultures is causing a damaging rift between the largely-Muslim workforce on the Arabic service and the predominantly-British recruits to AJI.

Presenters and producers hired on massive taxfree salaries to launch Al-Jazeera International (AJI) were lectured by Islamic groups on " appropriate behaviour" after a series of marathon drinking sessions in Qatar, where the new service is based.

The channel’s owner, the Emir of Qatar, is understood to have personally ordered the move.

21 Responses to “Cheers! …Maybe not….”

  1. Just off BBC World Service. 20 minutes and not given a chance to speak – meanwhile the air filled with the sound of dhimmis welcoming AJ. I got a few sentences in but the idea of fair and balanced was not evident in BBC coverage let alone AJ. Away to have my tea!

  2. David

    On the other thread here I have welcomed AJ and given my reasons. Does that make me a Dhimmi.?… I think I know your answer 😉

  3. Colm,

    Dumb and dhimmi. Not. You are of course quite entitled to your opinion and of course I respect it, just don’t agree!

  4. I’m sure Lord Haw-Haw had to behave a certain way at his "news-service" too. We get BBC World here on the radio, although one can’t admit to listening to it of course! David, maybe I’ll hear you being drowned out by the bleating of sheep.

  5. Charles,

    It sure felt like it. Dhimmi sheep.

  6. Charles/David

    You may (or may not) be surprised to here that I was informed by a relative of mine that Lord Haw Haw -William Joyce – was a distant member of our family on my mother’s side.

  7. Colm

    we forgive you. Shouldn’t you start your comments with "london calling! London calling"

  8. Colm, is that true??

    One of the few people who is equally despised by both British and Irish nationalists!

  9. Colm,

    That’s a fascinating fact! Of course you DO know what happened him….?

  10. Aileen

    Well if people can get a job as a Paris Hilton lookalike, maybe I could be a mini Lord Haw haw.


    I don’t know the exact details of how real the connection is. Nobody in our family has ever actually proved the exact link. The only ‘evidence’ I know of is that my mothers family surname is Joyce.

    PS – Why was he loathed by Irish nationalists ?

  11. David

    Yes I know how he ended up swinging! . Perhaps I could sue the British Government under Human Rights law and seek huge reparations as a surviving ‘traumatised relative’.

  12. >>Why was he loathed by Irish nationalists ?<<

    Although Catholics, he and his family in Galway supported the Black and Tans during the War of Independence. It is said he spied for them; he used to show at school a revolver he said they’d given him. After independence, his whole family had to escape to Britain, where he later joined the army.

    It shouldn’t be too difficult to trace the family line. I believe he accumulated some wealth that is still lying in a bank vault in Berlin!

    >>I could sue the British Government under Human Rights law<<

    You have a chance. His trial and conviction were very flawed (he was born in the US and at the time of the broadcasts was a German citizen and thus should not have been done for treason).

    >>I know how he ended up swinging!<<

    Yes, he was, as Alison would say, well hung! And I seem to remember from that male pin-up calander – where the June, July and August pages were needed for Colm – that at least that feature also runs in the family!

  13. Cunningham

    Well my mum is from Galway so the evidence does get stronger.

    Yes I know all about the controversy over his citizenship and whether it was technically correct to convict him of Treason in the UK but I didn’t know he became a German citizen.

    Modesty prevents me from commenting on your last paragraph 😉

    Now if you’ll excuse me , I’ve got a plane to Berlin to catch !

  14. <Q>You may (or may not) be surprised to here that I was informed by a relative of mine that Lord Haw Haw -William Joyce – was a distant member of our family on my mother’s side.</Q>

    Could be worse – you could be related to Cunningham! 😉

  15. "That’s a fascinating fact! Of course you DO know what happened him….?"

    Joyce held a British passport, not an Irish one so he was executed for treason. If he had held an Irish one, he would most likely have walked free.

  16. Garfield, Joyce was a naturalised German and had a German passport for some years.

  17. Oi you lot. Stop arguing about my favourite uncle 😉

  18. Cunningham,
    but he wasn’t executed for being a German, he was executed for treason because he was British, and held a British passport at the time he started working for the Germans.

    A German couldn’t be executed by the British for treason.

    He had American nationality too.

  19. Garfield, that was the point about his trial being flawed. He was a Geman citizen from, I think, 1940. At his trial (where his German nationality was not disputed), it was argued by the prosecution that having been British he could claim the King’s protection or something, and that as such his actions were treasonable. Many observers argued that the King’s protection didnt hold as he only commenced his broadcasts at a time when he had no access to that protection.

    He was by all accounts a vile individual. However, the death penalty seems a bit tough when we consider that many real Nazis responsible for mass murder, of civilians and prisoners of war, got off much lighter and Joyce’s broadcasts did little concreate damage (he amused more English than he annoyed).

  20. Cunningham,
    I don’t disagree at all with what you write. I agree he appears to have been executed on a technicality and his punishment does seem very extreme when compared with with the punishment meted out to others.

    If he was an industrialist first and radio presenter second, things might have been very different.

  21. Garfield,
    George Orwell once wrote a very interesting article on this (well, about P.G. Wodehouse, who also did propaganda broadcasts for the Nazis). Try to get your hands on it. He describes well how appeasement, and even admiration for the nazis, went to such levels in pre-Blitz England that those who left the country at that time and later helped the Nazis were scarcely aware they were being trecherous.