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RUDY IS RIGHT….

By ATWadmin On April 25th, 2007

rudy.jpgAs readers may know, I favour former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani to win the contest to be the Republican candidate to run for the US Presidency next year. I admire his steely leadership on the most IMPORTANT issue facing us, namely the need to WIN the war on terror.  I agree with his latest statement that America would ultimately defeat terrorism no matter which party gains the White House. “But the question is how long will it take and how many casualties will we have?”

Giuliani says.

“If we are on defense [with a Democratic president], we will have more losses and it will go on longer. I listen a little to the Democrats and if one of them gets elected, we are going on defense. We will wave the white flag on Iraq. We will cut back on the Patriot Act, electronic surveillance, interrogation and we will be back to our pre-Sept. 11 attitude of defense. The Democrats do not understand the full nature and scope of the terrorist war against us.”

In my view, Rudy is absolutely right on this. The Dem’s want to back up shop in Iraq and Afghanistan, be nice to the Mullahs and accommodate the Palestinians. They think that talk-talky will sort it all out. Wrong, dead wrong. But even with Rudy in the White House, it could still happen again. There is a huge porous border to the south of the USA which Bush has failed to deal with. Jihadists could easily enter there. Keeping the Jihadi from striking in the USA means keeping them fighting elsewhere – is Rudy prepared to take tough decisions regarding Iran, and Iraq? I think he makes a great point and will drive the leftist media insane when he says…

"The terrorists hate us and not because of anything bad we have done; it has nothing to do with Israel and Palestine. They hate us for the freedoms we have and the freedoms we want to share with the world. The freedoms we have are in conflict with the perverted, maniacal interpretation of their religion. Americans will fight for freedom for women, the freedom of elections, freedom of religion and the freedom of our economy. We are not giving that up, and you (The terrorists) are not going to take it from us!”

24 Responses to “RUDY IS RIGHT….”

  1. Rudy doesn’t get it quite right about the reason they hate us. True, it is NOT because of anything we’ve done or because of Israel, but to say they hate us because we’re free is also a fairly ludicrous statement.

    Simply put, they hate us because it’s in the Qu’ran and Mohammed told them to hate us. That’s the bottom line.

  2. The terrorists hate us and not because of anything bad we have done; it has nothing to do with Israel and Palestine. They hate us for the freedoms we have and the freedoms we want to share with the world.

    So Rudy’s solution to this is to use the patriot act to strip rights and freedoms from americans so the rest of the world wont hate them so much?

    Ahh yes and the glorious offence that bush adopted has been a great success

  3. Terrorists are able to get new recruits because of Israel and Palestine, and now Iraq. Later on, of course, those recruits might be brainwashed into hating the West for the sake of hating it.

  4. "it has nothing to do with Israel and Palestine…"

    Bullshit. How did Hizbollah arise in Lebanon if not from the refugee camps created by 1948 and 1967? Whatever the rights and wrongs of Israel and Palestine, it has a lot to do with them and Rudy knows it.

  5. What has Hezbollah to do with 9/11? And didn’t the Arabs create the camps concerned? And doesn’t Iran fund Hezbollah now?

  6. Hezbollah cheered in the streets of Beirut on 9/11. Rudy was talking about Islamic terrorists, which includes Hezbollah, or did Israel invade Lebanon last year for nothing?

    As I said, the rights and wrongs of the Palestinmian question are another matter. The fact remains that it is a festering sore in the Middle East and will quite likely remain so for decades to come.

  7. Peter,

    I agree – I just want to ensure that we do not appease the Arab Street in any way.

  8. David: It is a long campaign and Rudy has some distance to go. A good Mayor with many accomplishments. I am uncertain about his temperment and judgment as a national candidate, but he will at least be interesting.

  9. ‘America would ultimately defeat terrorism no matter which party gains the White House’

    I’d like to see some specific bullet points detailing what victory looks like.

    The best analogy to the current threat would seem to be the experience of the British Empire during the reign of Victoria.

    Numerous localized conflicts extending over the entire span of the reign that were never resolved but usually resulted in a local victory for the British or affiliated forces when the shooting paused.

    No real threat to the heart of the Empire either.

    I think the various flare ups were termed ‘The Cost of Empire’.

    A victory inasmuch as the Empire persisted for quite a while until an organized industrial nation decided to take it on.

    In the present day it would seem that America has to deal only with the minor conflicts, the trial of strength with a competing industrial power is past and they didn’t win.

    Of course there’s the looming threat of the EU….<pause>

    Sorry, I had to lie down as the laughing fit made me quite dizzy.

    🙂

  10. I find it hard to believe that people still think that Islamic imperialism, terrorism and violence has it’s roots in Israel/Palestine, US hegemony, oil or colonialism

    Here’s what one Arab ambassador told a couple of US politicians when asked why US interests were being attacked.

    "… that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every [Moslem] who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise"

    The US politicians were a Thomas Jefferson and John Adams, the attacks they referred to were by Barbary pirates, the amabassador was the Tripolitan amabassador to Britain – Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja – and the year was 1786.

    That’s just 10 years after the USA became an independent state, long before colonialism touched Arab lands, generations before oil became an issue and a couple of centuries before Israel even existed!

    There are none so blind as those who will not see.

  11. Stan posted:
    "I find it hard to believe that people still think that Islamic imperialism, terrorism and violence has it’s roots in Israel/Palestine….There are none so blind as those who will not see."

    Yeah right. Much more relevant to 2007 to quote some towel head from 1786 than events of the last 50 years. If that’s the best you can do I suggest a crash course in 20th century history to bring yourself up to speed.

  12. I like Rudy and he is strong on his stance toward the islamist menace.

    I won’t vote for him, though. He is a flaming liberal when it comes to border security and gun control. His view on abortion is quite liberal too. That is not a factor in my vote but it WILL be a factor for many conservatives.

  13. BTW – Iran has been supporting terrorism for decades. That’s the major player. Israel is just the feeble excuse the terrorists use to justify murdering all of us.

  14. Monica: Out of curiosity (1) who are you supporting in the primary and (2) if Rudy does get the nomination would you stay home?

    I haven’t decided on a candidate yet myself. Like Dickens’ Oliver I keep hoping for more.

  15. Monica,
    Are you denying that the US has been supporting terrorism for decades? Not that it’s all that relevant to the current discussion of course, but my country happens to have suffered not a little from US-sponsored terrorism in Kashmir and Nagaland.

  16. Adrian – waah.

    Mahons, I’ve decided on who I WON’T vote for. Honestly I think they started this process a little early this time around. Mostly I’ve been waiting to see who is actually in the race before I get down and dirty with it.

  17. As for Rudy getting the nomination, I don’t think it will happen so I haven’t decided to stay home.

  18. Monica – yeah, I agree with you on that. I am holding out hope that conventional wisdom is wrong and someone could step in later (from either party as long as we get someone with some common sense).

    And bonus points for your response to Adrian.

  19. Nice to hear a snappy comeback from Monica after a kind of break!

  20. "Yeah right. Much more relevant to 2007 to quote some towel head from 1786 than events of the last 50 years. If that’s the best you can do I suggest a crash course in 20th century history to bring yourself up to speed."

    And those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

    If you can not be bothered to learn from history then at least learn the difference between a reason and an excuse, Peter.

  21. Peter;

    The point Stan is making is that Islamic supremacism predates everything that is commonly held up as an excuse for why they hate us. It predates the invasion of Iraq; it predates Western colonialism; it predates the Crusades. It is NOT a recent thing. It stems from Mohammed’s command that all non-Muslims be either converted, subjugated or killed. It stems from the core teachings of the Qur’an and Islamic law. THAT’S why they hate us.

  22. Peter, if the underlying cause for the statement in 1786 hasn’t changed, then surely it follows that the modern obsession with Israel is not the real reason for recent attacks, but instead a secondary reason.

    The underlying cause hasn’t changed…

  23. Stan,

    Thank you for bringing up the Barbary pirates. I too believe it is very relevant to today. I also think the prescedent set in the two Barbary Wars should have been considered in recent actions against muslim foes: Go after the offenders swiftly, execute the purpose of the mission, level the offenders’ city and get out right away. If they offend again, repeat as before. If only today’s policy makers studied our own history and followed the prescedent. Hopefully the lesson is learned before it is necessary to protect our interests again. Nation-building should not have been part of the strategy. Hit hard and get out – that is how we used to do it and the British also. Wasting lives, time and resources on muslim areas is just that – waste; and it shows weakness in their eyes.

  24. The Palestinian issue maybe a factor for some, but alot of Arabs aren’t to fond of Palestinians, in Iraq speaking with a Pali accent is enough to get you killed!!! And a friend who worked in Jordan said for a lot of people there the hatred for Palestinians is just as strong as the hatred for Israelis.