THE PROVO TEMPLATE….
By David Vance On July 7th, 2011THIS is why we should get our troops OUT of Afghanistan.
The Prime Minister urged the Taliban to give up violence for politics, and held out Sinn Fein’s role on the devolved Belfast administration as an example of the possible rewards. Britain has already confirmed that officials are in direct contact with some Taliban members seeking a peace deal. However, Mr Cameron’s explicit offer of power-sharing to a group that has killed hundreds of British service personnel may raise eyebrows. Speaking in Kabul after talks with President Hamid Karzai, Mr Cameron said that Afghanistan’s long-term future lies in a negotiated settlement with the Taliban.
The Taliban. Here are the guys Cameron wants to see in power.
The war aims are dead and buried. I say get out now. If we are sacrificing our soldiers in order to get the Taliban in power again, things have become surreal.
I heard/saw our PM on TV acting like a stern headmaster at an infant’s school,
and demanding that the Taliban
“make up with the other children, and play nicely together.”
WOW!!
Sooooo masterful…
Soooooo, “Chelsea mumsy”
As soon as the last of the troops leave Afghanistan, the Taliban will show how affected they were by Dave’s pep talk, and drag the country back into the Middle Ages,
increase opium production
(so that Westerners can carry on living in la la land),
probably behead Karzai and his government,
And resume running holiday camps for disaffected British xcitizensx Muslims.
In that event our Government will do everything it can to ensure its citizens are protected by the latest Health and Safety training,
before taking their buckets and spades and heading off to Helmand’s Holiday Camps!
You couldn’t make it up:
could you?
All that’s keeping our troops there now is the cowardice of politicians who cannot turn back. So on we go, keeping up the pretence that we’re “nation building” or some other nebulous rubbish.
Back in 2001 Blair sent our troops there with a smile, John Reid announcing that he hopes the mission will be achieved without a shot being fired. What clueless windbags they are.
Does anyone imagine that “Hundreds of British deaths, thousands of American deaths and after ten years we’ll attempt to persuade the Taliban to be more like the IRA” would have been an acceptable target in 2001?
No?
It’s a failure then. Bring them home.
Peter,
It’s a pretty pathetic human being who maintains their reputation by insisting that young soldiers continue to lose limbs and lives …..
It is obvious that military victory is impossible. The Soviets learnt this the hard way and now we are learning it the hard way.
So there will have to be a political settlement, and that will have to include the Taliban. Most of its fighters see themselves as Pashtun freedom-fighters, not AQ proxies.
“It is obvious that military victory is impossible. The Soviets learnt this the hard way and now we are learning it the hard way.”
But WHY didn’t we learn the lesson in the first place?
WHY not read the history books, why not study the people’s history and accept that they’re not going to change?
Occupation of another people rarely works -and the chances of success are in direct proportion to the obstacles on the way to victory.
Occupation was never the aim. Annihilation of Jihadi was what I supported. Drones can now do that.
The taliban should give up violence for drug-dealing. They have a deal on the table from the CIA and would be well-advised to accept it.
Drones cannot eliminate the Taliban. Only nuclear annihilation of the entire country could achieve that. But I expect that the Neo-Cons will soon be demanding just that.
I agree that drones can never eliminate an organization that has organic support in that ( awful ) society. Drones can decapitate the organization to varying extents, but they are not the way to crush that organization