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By David Vance On October 13th, 2011

It’s a real problem for “the international community” – who do they believe; Obama or Ahmadinejad?;

The Obama administration sought to reconcile what it said was solid evidence of an Iranian plot to murder Saudi Arabia’s ambassador to the United States with a wave of puzzlement and skepticism from some foreign leaders and outside experts. Senior American officials themselves were struggling to explain why the Quds Force, an elite international operations unit within Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, would orchestrate such a risky attack in so amateurish a manner

Is the Obama regime lying?

Is it trying to pick a fight with peace-loving Iran?

Had this been happening during the Bush Presidency, I am sure the media would be baying for “the truth” but this is Obama stating that Iran, very specifically, has attempted to committed an act of terrorism on US soil.

When it comes to Iran, the nexus of world terrorism – this does not surprise me in the least. But judging by reaction around the MSM, there is a lack of confidence in what the Administration is claiming. Why?

16 Responses to “AT WAR WITH IRAN?”

  1. I don’t doubt this nut Mansour was involved in some hairbrained plot, but the extent to which it was actually greenlighted by Iranian operatives remains to be seen.

  2. David –

    Given the long record of lying, why should anyone believe the government without compelling evidence?

    Washington, the Pentagon and Langley have launched so many false flag ops and disinformation campaigns that no-one can take take only their word.

  3. I sort of agree with you Pete. It’s a toss up which bunch of lying gits is lying most. US and UK Governments I reckon that about 85% of what they say is just not true whereas I think the percentage is much higher for Loony Tunes Amaninadinnerjacket.

    I may be being overly generous to the US administration.

  4. More Obama/Dumbocrat propaganda/lies.

    Along with “fast and Furious and the Occupy Wall Street demos this is designed take the heat off the REAL crisis:

    Government’s collusion with various companies who have gone bankrupt after receiving billions of taxpayer’s monies in “so-called” bailouts.

    Obama plays a mean “shell game”.

    Ahmadinejad and his Muslim cronies are laughing their asses off right now!

  5. Washington, the Pentagon and Langley have launched so many false flag ops and disinformation campaigns that no-one can take take only their word.

    If it was a false-flag op, there’s no reason to be sure it was launched in Washington.
    There are several other players more likely to put disinformation about.

  6. There are a lot of factions with the Iranian government- what might be an insane act for the Iranian state might be a good move for a faction jostling for position within the state.

  7. Ross – I agree, and Iran has engaged in assination before so I wouldn’t rule out that someone within its goverment/power structure might very well have discussed, ordered and or conspired in this. We’ll have to wait and see how it all plays out.

  8. This fabricated story is utterly ridiculous and thoroughly unbelievable at any level.

    I’m amazed that any of the regulars on atw are taking it seriously. The feds instigated, created and managed this whole terror plot. The better question to ask is; who gains by accusing Iran?

    Iran plot faces skepticism.

    Bumbling, non-religious plotter


    And more

    And even more

  9. Peace-loving Iran? Iran is a militaristic, expansionist oligarchy hell-bent on domination. Comparing the number of countries where it is militarily active, has military presence and has subverted and/or overthrown national governments with the numbers for the US puts everything in perspective.
    Foreign military bases: Iran – 0, US – 350 to 600
    Active military presence in foreign countries, : Iran – 1 (Lebanon), US – Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Pakistan, (too many to type)

    Yes indeed – that puts everything in perspective. Correct me if I’m wrong

  10. Allan – We generally correct you when you are wrong, but you never learn the lesson. Active Iranian presence (and the presence of other naughty nations) in countries without US military presence as a deterrent is what you should worry about.

  11. Mahons – you are incapable of correcting me if/when I’m wrong. That’s why you always run away. For you, ignorance is strength. How many drones are wandering around the Middle East unleashing mayhem when the spotty kid who drives it sees something suspicious? How many military bases does the US have around the world and in how many countries? When I last looked, the US had two countries on its open borders yet US-military Inc is out killing thousands around the world for reasons of ‘security’.

    Here’s the plot: an Iranian-American, cheque-bouncing, used-car salesman attempts to hire an undercover US DEA agent, posing as a Mexican Los Zetas drug-cartel gangster, to assassinate the Saudi ambassador to the US. There is a film out titled ‘Machete’: has the Justice Department plagiarised that plot? If I were the producer of that film, I’d be phoning my lawyer.

  12. Allan – Call your psychiatrist instead. It is more urgent.

  13. It’s tremendous: the plot is now being openly ridiculed by ‘mainstream’ news outlets.


    – The man accused of scheming to kill the Saudi diplomat is described by those who know him as a scatterbrained, hapless businessman who in college earned the nickname ”Jack” for his affinity for whisky – hardly the type to mastermind a terrorist plot. –

    And from elsewhere:

    – Another local acquaintance, Mitch Hamueen, scoffed at the DOJ suggestion that “Chevrolet” was a code word for the alleged terror operation.

    “He probably wasn’t talking in code, he was probably talking about an actual Chevrolet,” he said. –

    The ‘authorities’ keep using the same methods – find some dim-witted patsy and make him take the rap, preferably being killed, jailed or ‘suicided’ before exposure. Now that the internet is here, the plot can be dissected and shown for what it is leaving the only dim-wits to be those who still believe this garbage.

  14. I agree with Daphne: “…utterly ridiculous and thoroughly unbelievable at any level.”

    Personally, I think it’s a feint to take attention away from the Obama Administration’s Fast and Furious troubles.

  15. I guess the whole “WMD’s launchable within 45 minutes” baloney re Iraq is still fresh in people’s minds. That woke a lot of people up to the fact that governments (yes, even ours, shock horror) DO use false propaganda in order to try and ‘sell’ their forthcoming military adventures to an ever more sceptical public.
    It crossed my mind too that this story might be the first step in a deliberate programme of ‘media spin’ designed to get the voters on-side, prior to some sort of military attack on Iran (which everyone knows is coming sooner or later, let’s face it).
    Whatever the case may be, gone are the days when the public automatically viewed and trusted their own countries as ‘the good guys’ and distrusted foreign states as ‘the baddies’. Most thinking people now realise that it’s not as black-and-white as that.

  16. Most thinking people now realise that it’s not as black-and-white as that.

    Except for fans of Glen Beck and the rest of the gang at Fox.

    Oh sorry, I missed the word “thinking” 🙂