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Talking Point – 25.11.06

By ATWadmin On November 25th, 2006

‘If the Labour Party didn’t rely on Scotland for its parliamentary hegemony, it wouldn’t care less whether the Union stands or falls’.  Discuss.

6 Responses to “Talking Point – 25.11.06”

  1. I agree with that. Occasionally you hear that argument put forwards explicitly by left wing columnists. When Labour politicians speak in favour of the Union it always sounds as though they were conducting a cost benefit analysis rather than actually believing in the UK.

  2. "A clear majority of people in both England and Scotland are in favour of full independence for Scotland, an ICM opinion poll for The Sunday Telegraph has found. Independence is backed by 52 per cent of Scots while an astonishing 59 per cent of English voters want Scotland to go it alone."

    Sundown on the Union.

  3. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=443QVZXTYAU0NQFIQMGCFF4AVCBQUIV0?xml=/news/2006/11/26/nunion26.xml

    The poll in full. Over 60% of English voters want an English Parliament

  4. Ah yes, but I think these results have less to do with English people’s aversion to the UK in principle, than with our annoyance at the present situation, where the Scottish parliament can make laws affecting (ie, taxing) us, but not vice-versa. Our (English) taxes are propping up the Scottish socialist agenda, and we get nothing in return. It’s anger at the unfairness of the present system, not a dislike of the Union per se. What English people are thinking is, "Alright, let’s devolve Scotland totally, let them finance their own economy and bloated public sector, we don’t want to pay for it".

  5. Tom

    The initiative won’t come from England but if it comes from Scotland then the English won’t mind. That is key.

  6. ‘Mr Cameron said: "The union between England, Scotland and Wales is good for us all and we are stronger together than we are apart.”

    There’s someplace missing, can’t quite put my finger on it.

    There’d be less opposition to Scotland breaking away if the highest office in the land was being eyed up by such a powerful Scot.

    Depending on the May results, Scotland could very soon break away from the UK. Then all bets are off.