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By Pete Moore On June 3rd, 2012Gosh, we are all busy today. Have yourselves and open thread then. House rules are in order.
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For what acts of valour did Charles receive all those medals, anyone know?
They can’t all be for polo.
“Hahahahaha, I’m rich you silly poor people”
Noel Cunningham -
You don’t necessarily get a bit of tin for an act of valour. Some are awarded on completion of service, tours of duty etc.
Prince Charles served as a pilot in the RAF and a helicopter pilot in the Royal Navy before commanding a minehunter. The medals will be in connection with that.
One of them might be from the Nunavut people (of Canada, I presume). They know him as “Son of the Big Boss”. You have to get a medal for being that.
Noel Cunningham, on June 3rd, 2012 at 4:42 pm Said:
For what acts of valour did Charles receive all those medals, anyone know?
They can’t all be for polo.
I bet he could not even be ‘arsed’ to polish them either? .. then again, what are flunkies for?
Now, Her Maj, or should I say, plain old Mrs Winsdor, she is just a ‘European citizen’ no more or less, just like some of us on here.
So, did the Queen of England, actualy abdicate the throne, when she signed not all six of the past ‘European treaties’ but the very first one?
After all,the Queen of England reigns by consent, and the Coronation oath was an agreement, between serf and Monarch, and she promised under her Coronation oath to ‘Protect her nation, realm and subjects, from Foriegn rule and hindrance’… and then proceeded to sign not one, but all six of the European treaties.
There will be a seventh, and yes she will sign it, and then she will abdicate the throne of England, and King Phillip will emerge, as ‘The King of the region of Northern Europe’ these people are well ahead of the game?
By the way, the Duke of Edinburgh there really did get some of his medals for acts of valour.
Her Maj, is apparently the 4th richest women on the planet, maybe she will be throwing all the poor ( If only in England ) a bone?
No, thought not, she might be Queen, but money is their King.
4TH? sorry my mistake, it appears the Queen is pretty close to the breadline?
Queen drops down rich list
The Queen is not even the wealthiest monarch
The Queen has slipped to 19th in a ranking of the world’s richest women, according to a new report.
The list of the world’s 200 richest women, published in this week’s edition of EuroBusiness, also reveals that the Queen is not even the wealthiest royal – despite her £1.9bn fortune.
Paul, Noel,
The Irish bile is a very virulent shade of green today!
I know that the idea was to salute an inspirational and wise lady, but does anyone agree with me that surely they should have given her a high stool to sit upon, just to take the weight off her tired feet?
As for the envious, we all know that they just cannot help it, as they know, deep down in their insecurity, they wish that they had someone of the stature of that small but truly indomitable Elizabeth the Second to admire as a Leader.
Ernest,
Not at all. I watched the Thames pagenty on TV with my son, explaining to him the symbolism as best I could (mind you, he did have me stumped when he asked me to explain the Fleur-de-Lis on some barge.)
It was impressive, despite the poor weather. The Brits do that kind of thing well, and I can appreciate a traditon when it’s done with taste.
“The barge she sat in, like a burnish’d throne,
Burnt on the water. The poop was beaten gold,
Purple the sails, and so perfumèd that
The winds were love-sick with them; the oars were silver,
Which to the tune of flutes kept stroke, and made
The water which they beat to follow faster,
As amorous of their strokes.”
Noel
Unfinished business.
That ‘Bridge os Saints’
I know there is a ‘Bridge of Saints’ in Praha.
There is one in Wurzburg too.
Look.
http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g187321-d1633922-r123489580-Alte_Mainbrucke-Wurzburg_Romantic_Road_Bavaria.html
Mike Cunningham, on June 3rd, 2012 at 5:15 pm Said:
I know that the idea was to salute an inspirational and wise lady, but does anyone agree with me that surely they should have given her a high stool to sit upon, just to take the weight off her tired feet?
As for the envious, we all know that they just cannot help it, as they know, deep down in their insecurity, they wish that they had someone of the stature of that small but truly indomitable Elizabeth the Second to admire as a Leader.
None more than the Americans.. I think that blue touch paper has now been lit?
I am no monarchist, but I will happily take Mrs Winsdor, above Barry Oblimey anyday of the week
The Queen pays far more to the Treasury than she receives.
For some reason the Roman concept of panem et circenses springs to mind.
Submariner and all you other bitter and twisted little oiks;
Our Queen did not ask to be our Monarch. The role fell to her as a very young woman, and she has borne it with grace and dignity.
Unlike the sheer hypocrisy of our Labour Lords who affected to hate the “nobs” and landed gentry, but couldn’t wait to don the ermine and affect airs and graces, the Queen has been a conscientious and faithful servant to this country.
To make remarks such as yours Submariner, is the act of a mean spirited and small minded man.
lf we are to believe the Government that we are under imminent threat from terrorists why is the Queen and heirs sailing up and down the Thames under no protective cover whatsoever? Perhaps the ‘terrorists’ didn’t have enough years to prepare?
Smoking,
The Government probably bought them off with extra state benefits…
I’ve often heard that claimed Pete but have never saw figures to verify it.
Ahh
Jiust back from a four hour bike ride throughout Brooklynn and Manhattan, via the Brooklyn Bridge. Getting back into fighting ahape.
Phantom,
Sounds great.
Who you gonna fight??
And why?
Paul McMahon -
In a nutshell, the Civil List covers the cost of the official duties of the Queen. It’s currently £7.9m pa. This is what republicans complain about, as if no-one has the cost of their work covered.
In return for this, the Queen gives up two sources of income. One is the Crown Estate, which belongs to the office of the monarch. Its profit of £231m last year went to the Treasury, as it has done every year since the time of George III in the 18th-Century.
The other source of income is the Duchy of Lancaster, which belongs personally to the Queen. The Queen is entitled to a part of the profit (gross profit last year was £13m) on which she pays tax.
This is all by agreement between the Crown, monarch and Treasury. If, say, Parliament decided to do away with the Civil List then the monarch would be entitled to keep those private and Crown incomes.
Just trying to drop some pounds, get into killer shape, and be able to easily do 50- 75 mile bike tours
Phantom,
I have a foldable mountain bike which has been living in its packaging stored in our garage for the last year. I unpacked it for the first time three days ago, and a neighbour helped me set the gears up. I shall be taking it and some fishing rods on holiday to France starting Thursday.
My wife has an Italian folding three wheeler, which is worth almost as much as the car…
Good for you
Where in France?
We’re heading down towards Bordeaux (get some nice wine) then up to the Pyrenees and along to Andorra http://www.andorra.ad/en-US/Pages/default.aspx
then back into France and Carcassonne http://www.creme-de-languedoc.com/Languedoc/city-guides/carcassonne.php
If we have some time left we will go through the Dordogne area. Land of big lazy rivers and prehistoric cave drawings (probably done by Bronze age goat herders Richard)
This is a beautiful place you Yanks would probably love it!
google.co.uk/search?q=sarlat&hl=en&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=YrzLT4e1CIi3hQe1jJXRDw&sqi=2&ved=0CIgBELAE&biw=1366&bih=608
Mr and Mrs Agit8ed will be doing it all ‘on the cheap’ of course….
ps
Last link doesn’t work. Google in,
“images for sarlat”
Doing it on the cheap is half the fun
Take a photo or two and if you like we can post them
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My ramble in Manhattan was a little trickier as they had the ” Salute to Israel” parade and there was tight security
I went around it
great to see the lefty bitter biffs having a bosh at the Monary.
Today was fantastic and thoroughly enjoyed by all of our friends, including two ‘orishmen’ who were forced under the pub convention to admit the Queen is the world’s favourite.
(btw, to the Americans, yes, FAVOURITE, not Favorite), it is after all, the Queen’s English.
even monarchy…
I will be taking pictures, so I suppose I could send them to David via email….
It was an amazing spectacle. The rain-drenched singers at the end capped it for me. And great stamina from the Queen and the Duke (86 and 90) to stand for hours on a cold summer’s day on the Thames.
Logical Unionist
Yes it really has been a fantastic day. To see a little old lady of 86 standing most of the time and waving to all those folk who had come to wish her well. and to see the young’uns gathered around her. Kate looked absolutely beautiful, and William and Harry have done so well despite their difficult upbringings.
And this is the point: the Queen knows how much work went into organising it all, she knowspeople have come from far and wide to see her, and shew responds to that. She doesn’t throw a hissy fit or get grumpy. She is a lovely person, and we should all be pleased on her behalf.
Agit8ed -
Have a good one.
If you’re going to be cycling around down there you’ll need some sustenance. Pork and beans is the way to go down in Carcassone, and that means a proper cassoulet, the food of the gods. You can’t beat it.
I do hope you’re not a veggie.
Pete,
I am really looking forward to it. That you obviously live somewhere fairly close has started to fill me with the heebie-jeebies..
Every time I see a man clad in tattered Paramo outdoor wear, I suffer panic attacks thinking he might ask me for the price of of a television licence..
Please don’t tell me you visit “Go Outdoors” in Norwich?!
Anyway thanks for the good wishes. Cassoulet can vary quite a lot from region to region.I am a medium rare steak man, fried chicken, fish and chips and good strong beer -Bishop’s Finger is a favourite.
I’m taking plenty of medication, good travel insurance and a wonderful wife for company…
“Perfick!”
Agi, if you fancy going a bit further south I’ll gladly show you around Pamplona.
Paul,
Always fancied running with the bulls..
It’s not that much further south from Pau is it?
I’ll talk to the wife!
Hour and a half from Pau.
Let me know if you fancy it and I’ll forward contact details to David.
Agit8ed -
Funnily enough, I’ve been in the Norwich “Go Outdoors”! No Paramo on that occasion. If I remember right I came out with a couple of gas canisters for my stove.
Paul McMahon -
Are you in Pamplona?
Yes Pete. I’ve lived here for the last five years.
How’s life there, good?
Hot summers, cold winters and some of the best quality cusine in the Spanish state. On the negative side it’s a bit too small and the fourth most expenive city in the state.
Paul, dodging the bulls must be like dodging the joyriders in west belfast.
Must make you miss the Paras and the brave British Army soldiers who stood between them and your ‘society’…
Oh FFS, here we go. You just can’t help yourself can you?
I hope you will join me and raise a glass to our Majesty and Her forces.
I missed you xx
they aren’t really going to change the name of Big Ben are they?
Hey Phantom just keep in mind all those healthy joggers that drop dead of heart attacks every year as you plan 50-70 mile bike ride.
Believe rides like that are much more enjoyable while astride a Harley
No Troll, only the Tower that contains it.
Troll -
No.
Contrary to popular belief, Big Ben isn’t the tower you see, it’s the great bell inside. The tower is St Stephen’s Tower. It’s that which will be renamed.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/the_queens_diamond_jubilee/9307060/The-Queens-Diamond-Jubilee-Big-Ben-to-be-renamed-Elizabeth-Tower.html
Actually the ‘clock tower’, but hey ho…
The Queen is saying “Who says the English don’t like the Germans. Look they love us”
Paul McMahons,
I have had “speaks” with the wife and reluctantly agreed that the detour would delay our arrival at the campsite in Carcassonne.
Disappointing as I had wanted to see such a famous city, and also have the opportunity to meet a man surviving in an all female household…
At least I now understand why you couldn’t take up an invite to Norfolk!
But truly Paul, a very kind offer and thank you for making it.
Anytime Agi.
Paul,
And the same goes for you. David has my email address for you, and if you and your family ever find yourselves heading for Norfolk for whatever reason, try me first. The wife and I would be pleased to offer you hospitality.
We pass this way but once..
A very gracious offer Agi. Thank you.
“Just trying to drop some pounds, get into killer shape, and be able to easily do 50- 75 mile bike tours”
Anyone can do 50-75 miles on a bike, it’s just a question of how long it takes. (All day in my case)
Frank
I have a Trek hybrid ( I think this one and am now in the market for a road bike.
I love the bike that I have, but I want an alternative for touring.
Phantom,
I highly recommend the moulton TSR bikes (or any Moulton).
http://www.moultonbicycles.co.uk/models.html
The top end ones are stupidly expensive, though a second hand one could be worth a look. The TSR models are much more affordable (still not cheap, though) and are also very good. I have a TSR27 and love it – I use it for commuting all the time but have also used it on long rides (e.g. London to Amsterdam), and people have gone around the world on AM models.
They look like folding bikes but aren’t – they have the feel of a ‘full size’ bike, and the TSR27 has a mixture of hub gears and derailleur, which gives a very wide range and makes it a great all purpose bike. The suspension makes it very comfortable to ride, even on rough tracks. You can get a separable model (which is what I have) that can be split into two pieces without any compromise of frame strength, and makes it easy to pack down to get in the back of a small car or on a plane. Though it is pretty compact even without doing that – mine will fit easily in a London black cab fully assembled and loaded with luggage for example.
They are the Bentley of bicycles
thanks LU
“They are the Bentley of bicycles
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Hmmm,
Using that as a marker, mine must be the equivalent of one of those Trabants
(I have often been described as a man of unremarkable ability and humble aspirations..)
http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1658545_1658533_1658030,00.html