Yes I’m the one that’s Crazy
By The Troll On June 9th, 2012Every time we discuss Syria and all it’s sweet vacation spot Joy, I say, well you can’t go holiday in Syria with out enjoying at least a weekend in Iran, and the reaction Oh it’s just not right, the two places are totally different and you can enjoy one without the other. I’m just a silly man.
IRANIAN GENERAL: OUR FINGER ON WAR TRIGGER
Enemies ‘are all within range of the resistance fire’
With Western pressure growing on Bashar Assad over the latest massacres of defenseless women and children in Syria, Iranian officials again are warning the world against any action against the Middle East dictator.
The pro-Assad “resistance” has its finger on the trigger and the aggressors will not survive the conflict, a senior commander of the Revolutionary Guards, Brig. Gen. Massoud Jazaeri, told Mashregh, a media outlet run by the Guards. Iranian officials often refer to Iran, Syria and Hezbollah in Lebanon as the resistance front.
Mashregh reported in March that Iran’s armed forces had formed a joint war room that included officers from Syria, Iran and Hezbollah for a coordinated military response to an attack on Syria.
“The Zionist regime and the interests of the enemies of Syria are all within range of the resistance fire.”
The Guards last year called Syrian protesters “rabble-rousers” who are “puppets of Zionists and the United States” and that their chanting slogans against Iran and Hezbollah “will be their last stand.”
Citing a conspiracy to weaken the resistance front and that foreign hands were involved in the events in Syria, Jazaeri said, “At the right time, people of the region will retaliate against these actions. The defeat of the enemy at this stage will be a big event and, God willing, we will witness that.”
Meanwhile, the head of Iran’s Basij militia made clear that Iran will not tolerate the fall of Assad.
The mullahs ruling Iran, based on centuries-old hadiths, believe that an attack on Syria and Iran and an ensuing counterattack on Israel will trigger the coming of “Mahdi,” the Shiites’ 12th imam and the last Islamic messiah. Both those events are looking increasingly likely as Assad continues to murder his own people and Iran continues its quest for nuclear weapons.
So once again just my Imagination
“So once again just my Imagination”
That’s what all the Liberal-Socialist contributors to ATW are going to SHOUT, Troll.
It’s coming soon. I can feel and smell a big, ugly, nasty war in the air.
Iran is one and only reason the United Nations of squirming cowards and their ally in Socialism, Obama are keeping their distance from war talk.
They realise that taking on Assad will be the excuse for Iran to unleash a mega conflict, over run Iraq and decimate Israel. Of course that’ll be a mutual decimation since we all know Israel will not hesitate to nuke Iran.
The tactical problem for Israel is the country has just a few areas where almost 90 percent of the population live. That makes them very vulnerable to nukes. Unfortunately, Iran’s population is spread over a huge area. Besides the Mullahs don’t really care if half the population gets toasted into crispy critters.
Well at least your detractors will be proven wrong.
“Every time we discuss Syria and all it’s sweet vacation spot Joy, I say, well you can’t go holiday in Syria with out enjoying at least a weekend in Iran”
Do you?
“and the reaction Oh it’s just not right, the two places are totally different and you can enjoy one without the other. I’m just a silly man.”
Yes, they are different countries, but that would elude a dumbarse like you.
Hey dopey bollocks, they are two seperate, distinct countries. If one coming to the rescue of the other makes them the same, well that makes the US just the same as all the countries the US has a defence pact with, yes? Because Iran and Syria has a defence pact you idiot.
But oh no, they’re just the same, indistinguishable places because of it, according to von Trollsewitz. Righto, so the US and South Korea are the same, indistinguishable places too, quite clearly.
Pete,
“von Trollsewitz”
LOL. Have you copyrighted that or may I use it?
//“von Trollsewitz”//
Right. Politics is the preparation for war by any means.
Who of the ATW Chickenhawks
Is willing to fight in this war?
Will persuade their children to enlist so that they can fight it?
Is willing to have their taxes increased to pay for it?
Is willing to be inconvenienced in the slightest when war happens?
Thought so.
Syria is a vassal state to Iran, Assad has been Imamadjihads puppet since day one.
and if it your going to call an american a dumbarse do it in American it’s Dumb Ass there is no r or e in the word you schmuck….
The comments made be you and the others are why the US has had to be prepared for war, and the ability to fight on two continents at once.
Getting the shit bombed out of yourselves in WWII taught you nothing. You can let the Islamic hordes run you over, it won’t be just France that falls in 3 days this time. You have no military, nato is nothing without the US and we are going to be busy.
Wars follow economic collapses all of Europe is in an economic collapse, add to that the Return of the Russians and the terrorist threat. A lot of you are going to die, and you’ll still be blaming the US.
If Obama wins, he won’t help you. He made his feelings quite clear when he threw Churchill’s bust out of the Oval office and sent it back to England.
Noel we learned to be always prepared for war while all you have learned is the belief that you could make socialism work and be safe by disarming. History and events are proving you to be fools.
as for von Trollsewitz, did you ever see Von Ryans Express?
Phantom, My daughter just enlisted in the Air Force Academy, my second daughter wants to be a Marine. Do you even have any kids? For that matter do you even have a wife? Don’t tell me you still live with Mama.
When 9/11 happened I tried to reenlist, I’m to old and to broken, how about you? Plus as I have said before I have family members on the front lines, do you?
Chickenhawk is the term always used by the real pussies who are unwilling, I think that describes you quite well bubble boy
You are still an old man who incites war that young men – leave girls out of this, sunshine, war is mens work- fight and die in, while you sit fat dumb and happy on your Homer Simpson chair, not willing to be inconvenienced in any way by the war you seek.
The American people, apart from military families did not share any burden over the past ten years. No tax, no rationing, no tax, nothing but tax cuts and American Idol 24/7
You are an absolute moral coward, as was your idol Limbaugh, who made damn sure that he never served in Vietnam.
fuck you…
did you try to reenlist? Do you have children? Oh and my daughters aren’t good enough, you male chauvinist pig. You still living with Mama?
Do you have family members on the front lines?
I notice you answered none of the questions. What’s the matter Phantom once again no balls?
c’mon mamas boy answer the questions
Richard Clinton – feel free.
Troll -
To get back to your post … (by the way, can you link to the piece? The last paragraph has th whiff of Bill Kristol about it).
What do you mean by “just your imagination”? The other day you asked if something was just your imagination when Russia tested an ICBM. So what is it that’s just your imagination?
What are you going on about?
Pardon me.
I was doing some work. You should try it some time.
I am a social conservative who abhors the idea of women in combat. You apparently are OK with it even close to home. That matter can rest between you and your conscience.
I own my own building and no my mother does not live in it.
You have an weird obsession with the lives of other men. Not that there is anything wrong with that. But I will say that I have no children that I am aware of.
I made my comment solely based on the barstool warmongering that ATW War Wimps have become famous for. You guys want others to sacrifice all, while you are not willing to sacrifice anything.
I don’t know of any combat veterans, Americans or Europeans, who speak the way you do. There probably are some, but they are very few. Men who served in combat tend to hate war intensely. Somehow, you do not.
Now now ladies, can’t you all debate without the verbal face scratching.
I haven’t read the post…just clicked on the first comment…and read up a few comments…Colm, your comment is a wee bit old fashioned…ladies nowadays don’t just scratch…we kick ass just like the best of them…;-) There should be no issue with women in combat, Phantom. Troll…war is not always the answer…it should be one of those once in a while things.
mairin
Troll also agrees that war should be a once in a while thing. The trouble is, Troll thinks once in a while means every 10 minutes
Correct
Troll agitates for war in every situation
I think that it should be the last resort.
And that of there is war that every fat dumb and happy Pennsylvanian should help bear the burden in some way – I oppose the ” no sacrifice ever ” mantra of the Tea Party dummies amd GW Bush
Ah fraid that does not answer the questions Phantom. You answered one you don’t live with your Mama.
You use an interesting phrase “I own my own building” is it a home, a warehouse, an apartment building? Is mama’s boy a slum lord? and your no conservative anything, you chauvinist pig, don’t you dare try to excuse your dismissive attack on my daughters by claiming woman shouldn’t fight. Non Combat soldiers get killed in war zones. The US Military has 1000s of women in harms way.
And your deflecting, your are the one that attacked ME claiming I have no personal stake in any military action. I have stated what I have on the line, You state NOTHING, So yes you get asked, but like a little wuss you never answer.
Why is that mamas boy? Did you try to reenlist? Do you have children that could someday serve, or are you incapable of having children either do to lack of balls or sexual preference? Remember your the one that made this personal. Do you have Family members on the front line?
No Phantom either grow a set of balls and answer a personal question for once or don’t make personal attacks.
Now for the rest of you.
The just my Imagination thing started several days ago when I did a post on Putins return to power I was told I was Paranoid and told it was my Imagination that it something to be concerned about. Thus the title of a post that followed it a couple of days after of putin testing his new ICBMs.
Every time in the past that I have pointed out that Syria is nothing but a vassal state of Iran and events there are under Iranian control, once again I get laughed at. The posting of the article (which is not from Krystal, if you google the title you’ll find it) Was to show that the Iranians feel Syria is their vassal state, so you guys can call me crazy all you want.
Now for another annoying trend and misconception. That must be addressed.
Pointing out that Russia has modernized her weapons systems, and that the former head of the KGB has put himself in charge of Russia like a Czar is NOT A CALL TO WAR.
It’s a call that while you assholes are sleeping you better wake up and look around. While Britain, France, and all the NATO countries have disarmed.
Russia, China, the North Koreans, The Pakistanis, The Indians and the Iranians are arming themselves to the teeth.
The Islamists have openly declared War on the West and that includes YOU. They are being supplied with weapons and the ability to make weapons of mass destruction by the list I just gave you.
And what is your reaction… “oh the Troll is a Warmonger” … “Oh the US is an Evil Empire” … Oh there is nothing to worry about” … “Oh you just want to bomb everybody”
Why don’t the lot of you pull your heads out of your asses and look around. Stop accusing me and my country of being a threat, and see the threat that is surrounding you.
My nation is all that stands in it’s way. You certainly can’t defend yourselves, you refuse to even see the need too.
If I didn’t care about you and the rest of the innocent people living their oblivious lives around you I’d say fuck ya, when the shooting starts and it will, your on your own.
But we won’t do that, and the little faggot Phantom doesn’t worry he knows no one serving. I have two nephews right now fight in Afghanistan, I have a daughter that just enlisted to the Air Force Academy which means she will serve a minimum of 6yrs after she finishes school.
I don’t want war, but unlike the rest of you when the enemy says I’m going to kill you, and then points a gun at you Me and mine aren’t going to just stand there and wait to be shot.
So Fuck You
American definition of Diplomacy
Show up with a gun in one hand and a sandwich in the other and ask, which you would prefer
You lie and exaggerate and get confused and angry so often that no one can tell if anything you say is true.
And hiding behind the skirts of women in war time? Sweet Jesus, this is a new defense under the sun.
Have you learned what a balanced budget is?
The War Wimp of all the ages.
answer the questions mamas boy
Crazy Uncle Troll -
1. Keep your girls out of the military. The risk of them being raped will increase greatly if you don’t.
2. Some countries do arm themselves to the teeth. Often it’s because the Pentagon is full of mad buggers like you.
your very glib, but your gutless.
Everyone knows where I have worked, no one knows where you have worked.
Everyone knows my real name, you have never posted yours once.
Everyone knows all about my family, you have never even discussed a relationship.
Everyone knows which candidates I support, you have never endorsed anyone.
I may be abusive to others, but I’m consistent, and when I have crossed the line I apologize.
You are neither consistent, nor have you ever apologized.
Phantom you argue like a child, when you lack the balls to answer a direct question you insult.
Your a disgrace
Troll
You think that there are a whole host of countries that want to attack the US and are only arming themselves because they want to go to war with the USA. Where is your evidence that that is exactly what they want ?
Why were you fired from that job?
And don’t say it is unfair to ask – you brought the job up.
Was it for cause?
Pete read your number one it doesn’t make sense.
Colm no I think there are a whole host of countries that are WILLING to attack a lot of people, and they are arming themselves to the teeth.
The Islamists led by Iran have stated on numerous occasions that their goal is to destroy the US and Israel, if you haven’t read and heard those statements for yourself I would come off your barstool and start researching. 9/11 was not the first attack nor will it be the last. As far as the Islamists are concerned.
Russia is a threat more to you and the rest of Europe than us, they know they can not attack us directly and survive. The chicoms are more a threat to southern Asia, they also know they would not survive a direct war with the US.
The major powers are not a physical threat, economics is a war all 3 of the super powers have problems both internally and externally.
GB, Europe, the EU, The former Soviet bloc nations need to pay attention to what Putin is doing.
The middle East is the only real threat. That is a religious war. Whether you or I believe it or not they believe death in the name of their religion is an honor. Mutually Assured Destruction means nothing to them.
Somewhere in the past forty years GB, and Europe came to a conclusion that there are no bad people left in the world, and they no longer needed to worry about defending themselves.
They are wrong
Troll -
You need to tell everyone where you went to school too, because the place ought to be shut down. A Cairo shopkeeper once wrote some directions down for me, and his English spelling was better than yours.
You talk about your big bollocks and marvellous military and the super-duper weapons you have, but you can’t wield an apostrophe to save your life.
Tip: real men care about how well they communicate.
Troll -
Let me repeat my first point:
1. Keep your girls out of the military. The risk of them being raped will increase greatly if you don’t.
More glibness from Phantom, you want to know why I was fired yet you won’t answer any questions.
I was never fired. I’ve collected unemployment from every job I was laid off from. You don’t get unemployment if your fired.
US Air did try to fire me and 9 other managers once. It was right after their second bankruptcy. They had 2 months prior cut the Union Workers pay from $40 an hr, to $20 an hr, and made them pay for their benefits for the first time in the companies history.
They called 10 ground managers in and said give us your keys your badges and your phones you can’t motivate the men your all fired. They then tried to block our unemployment. They were laying us off and trying to not pay our benefits by making it into a mass firing. We took them to court and they of corse lost.
After that I worked for several different companies in the Airline Business British Airways, Gate Gourmet, Sky Chef, World Wide Freight, Lufthansa, The last company I worked for tried to force me to work a midnight shift in violation of my contract and I walked and collected because I had grounds.
The Airline business is a unique field, there are only so many trained to do certain jobs. People move from company to company, I worked for 3 Airlines at once for a period of a time. All Competitors.
Try again mamas boy.
See unlike you I’m not ashamed of who and what I am. Why are you?
I’m thinking it would be a better idea to keep rapists out of the military and punishing those that get in. If your attitude is that women shouldn’t be where they might be raped…it might as well be than women shouldn’t be. Happens all the time…everywhere we go (and to men too BTW). I hate when rape is used as an outright threat or an inadvertant one.
Troll
The strong people on this site – you ate not one of them – know more about me. I have met with them in Belfast, London, and New York. Twice in each city.
You’ve been invited to the NYC settings but you did not respond.
I hold some things back and have counseled others to do so because there are some bad people here. You are one of those people.
There have been at least two cases here where people have been personally attacked by snitches – by Jo and by someone else. You would so the same under the right circumstance. You would try to ruin a person, just as you have said you hoped that the children of IRA supporters would be blown up by a bomb, just as you give a pass to murderous terror from your friends, publicly, recently, for all to see.
You have no moral compass. You are not Christian. I recently was near to meeting with you. I am glad now that this meeting did not happen, that it will not happen.
I don’t personally think that anyone should post with their own name on a contentious site like this. There are snitches and informers and other bad people about. Be very aware of this, all here.
both my girls have advanced training in the martial arts, I’m not even going to click on your link. I’m sure it’s a claim that all american military woman are raped by their fellow animal american counterparts.
and what’s the matter I poke fun because you use the British english spelling of a word instead of the American english and you get your feelings hurt …. boo hooo
There is a very high out of wedlock pregnancy rate in the military – one rarely spoken of – which makes females in the military more of a hindrance than a help
It is a major distraction that did not exist before
Troll -
Females are much more likely to be raped in the US military than in civilian life. I’d have thought a father would be interested to know.
I couldn’t give a stuff for how you spell “arse”, but your posts and comments are verging on the unreadable. Terrible spelling, random capitals, sentences begging for commas and a misplaced or absent apostrophe all disrupt the flow. All that keeps me persevering sometimes is the certain knowledge that I’ll get a laugh from you at least.
But my concern is mainly for ATW, for which you ought to have greater respect. If I were a new visitor here and saw your command of the English language first, I’d probably not return.
I repeat: real men care about how well they can communicate. Particularly, they do not wallow like a pig in shit over their (not “there”) inability to construct basic sentences correctly.
And being a colonial is no excuse.
Fuck you you little pussy.
I have been one of the people attacked by idiots on this site, I’ve had my family attacked. They called the state and tried to have my children taken away.
How dare you accuse me of ever using information I have gained from this site against anyone. Ask Mahons I’ve known his name for years and argue with him all the time, not once has he ever been threatened or had any negative things come from me. Except a heated verbal exchange.
Phantom as a site administrator I could find out the locations of everyone that has ever posted here, as a gentleman and a man that David has shown trust to for 10 years the thought of even doing such a thing is an abomination to me. You Not Being a Person of Honor that you now reveal is obviously beyond your grasp.
Also with your IP address I can find out not just your name, but your location, connected IP Addresses which could lead to your work, your bank, your phone. You forget my Degree is in Computer Science and it is not some bullshit Microsoft course. I got my computer degree from the school that started Computer Science.
How dare you.
You owe me an apology, and you are barred from ever posting on any of my threads.
This site is contentious because of asses like you. How dare you make such an accusation.
Pete
I don’t type well, and I could careless about grammar and punctuation. Spelling corrections I leave to the editor program.
If it’s all just to much for you then don’t read or comment on my threads.
trool -
“I don’t type well ..”
A girly-man’s excuse. Do you not control your own fingers? However, congratulations on the well-aimed apostrophe.
” .. and I could careless about grammar and punctuation.”
I repeat: a real man cares for how well he communicates.
Pete
Mairin is correct, woman can be victimized no matter where they are, most abuse happens in the home. I have raised my girls the way I was taught to raise them, to be smart, to be independent, to have confidence in themselves, compassion for others, and training in weapons and hand to hand combat.
If the way I spell and punctuate takes away from the substance of my thoughts and words, you may want to look internally. How do you communicate with those that english is not their primary language? How do you deal with accents?
Do you dismiss what people say to you in a conversation if they don’t speak the kings english like a proper gentleman? Are you that much of a British snob and bigot?
Or is this prejudice held only for me or Americans?
Oh dear oh dear. This is sad to see. Phatom, Troll and Pete. You have all debated here for years and usually civilly even heatedly but very recently and partcularly today why are you all getting so personal and vindictive. Of course you all strongly disagree, ATW would be dull without that disagreement, but can you all get back to simple robust but not abusive debate please.
Colm -
Be cool.
A blog has energies, positive and negative, which ebb and flow. Tonight, on this thrad, the natural energy flow is against gos this way.
Pete
This isn’t an ebb – it’s a tidal wave.
PS – Your last sentence. Tut tut. A real man cares for how well he communicates
Colm
I have no problem with Pete, we’re just going tit for tat.
Phantom on the other hand over the past year has been degenerating his dialogue with me. Today he has crossed that final line.
I am obnoxious, I am rude, I enjoy being combative. but I have never caused anyone on this site harm, I myself have been caused harm in the past. His attack has ended his relationship with me.
Colm: it’s because it’s an election year in the U.S. Things will get more heated.
Phantom: Don’t be critical of Troll about not meeting with you. We work 2 blocks from each other. You’ve asked me to me and I’ve said no because you included Mahons (and his wife). Granted…and I’ll be honest here…I said no because Mahons is not someone I’d like to meet and you included him in the deal. I think he’s an ass..go figure…;-)
trolo -
“If the way I spell and punctuate takes away from the substance of my thoughts and words, you may want to look internally.”
Non-judgmental, Marxist drivel.
“How do you communicate with those that english is not their primary language?”
Self-indulgent, non-judgmental, girly-man, obscurantist drivel. English is your primary language. But to answer your question, I shout at them.
“How do you deal with accents?”
That depends on whether it’s a bloke or a chick with the accent.
“Do you dismiss what people say to you in a conversation if they don’t speak the kings english like a proper gentleman?”
Of course I do. I have standards.
“Are you that much of a British snob and bigot?”
Of course I am.
“Or is this prejudice held only for me or Americans?”
I look down on all foreigners.
The only reason I have never met with anyone is I very rarely Leave Pennsylvania. When I worked for the airlines I flew for free, I was supposed to hook up with Mahons, but my business schedule did not allow it.
I would love to meet some of you even the ones I disagree with the most. If I ever get the opportunity to get to go to NI I would ask David to invite the whole contingent to a pub, even Gaskins and he hates me…lol
Pete
LMAO
and no my primary language is American.
Also being that I am from Philadelphia the birth place of my nation I have no accent, every other part of my country has one.
But you all sound the same!
only on the keyboard
//war is mens work//
You obviously haven’t read the last exchange between Daphne and Patty.
Troll is mad but not bad. I also have every reason to believe his daughters were well reared and – if what he now says is true – are making an informed choice, even if they are mad as dad to go put themselves at risk in the endgame of one of Bush’s wars.
Nobody should fight anyone else’s battles, but those girls are Americans and should be free to fight American wars if they wish to and leave the rest of us in peace.
The argument that girls shouldn’t join the military because of the risk of unwanted pregnancies or even rape is more or less the same argument the Saudis use for keeping women out of all workplaces where they could come in contact with men.
Mairin, I have met Mahons, and he is every bit the perfect gentleman, suprisingly so in fact. Phantom is gentlemanly almost to a fault.
I felt quite the uncouth boor in their company, to tell the truth
woops…I just re read my post…what I meant to say in short that is that Phantom had asked to meet me too but it included Mahons and his wife. I said no. I think Mahons is an ass. I have no desire to meet him. I don’t think he writes all that well. I see his name and I think ass….
Troll
Are you sticking to your threat to ban Phantom from posting on your threads. I wish you wouldn’t. It would be wrong, and censorship is against the spirit of ATW and ruins the ethos of this site.
Noel Cunningham -
“The argument that girls shouldn’t join the military because of the risk of unwanted pregnancies or even rape is more or less the same argument the Saudis use for keeping women out of all workplaces where they could come in contact with men.”
Of course it’s not.
Noel…what can I say? Mahons is a dime a dozen in New york. It doesn’t make me want to meet him.
Oh Colm…stop being so dramatic…this is only an internet site…remind yourself.
mairin
I know the integrity of ATW is not a matter of life and death.. it’s more important than that. (c. Bill Shankly)
Pete – I don’t agree that Troll’s posts are becoming unreadable because of punctuation and spelling errors. We all make them and it doesn’t really detract from the argument made. I read Troll’s posts, I know exactly what he means – and it scares the shit out of me to think that millions of warmongering nutters who would wgae war for the Wall Street still live in the US and get told what and how to think by the corporate media owned by the banks.
and it scares the shit out of me to think that millions of warmongering nutters who would wage war for Wall Street still live in the US and get told what and how to think by the corporate media owned by the banks.
Yes, me too. But it is not Wall Street that is addicted to war. The Military Industrial Complex, first identified by Eisenhower, has enormous influence in US politics, through
the number of legislators that it has boughtits enormous campaign contributions. And of course its cheer-leaders in the Fox-Limbaa world.Colm
Yes I am dead serious.
Phantom accused me of a violation that I have never done, nor would I ever. I have had visitors to this site attack my family personally, She who must not be named (not Jo) actually called the local child services in my state to try and have my children removed because of my points of view.
Like I said to Phantom, it would not be hard for me to locate and Identify any of you. If you comment you leave a distinct IP Address, all IP Addresses are traceable, nothing any of us say, do, or look at on the internet is ever really hidden or erasable, (But don’t admit that to Alan).
I take my views and exaggerate the rougher edges of who I am to add emphasis to the points that I am making. Some of what I write is done as a performance. It does not mean that I don’t believe what I say with any less conviction, or that my statements contain nothing but the truth, but I do word things in a manner designed to shake things up.
Even the spelling or lack of, is part laziness and part theater. (it is good to have ones opponents underestimate you).
I am very honest however in what I believe even if I say it in an orchestrated way.
Phantom owes me an apology , on that and his removal from further comment on my threads are 2 points that are not open to compromise.
It is once again time for me to do an identity post.
Troll
Let me just say, I don’t think Phantom accused you of violating anyone’s identity or threatening them, he just said he didn’t want to reveal his full identity because he doesn’t trust that you or anyone would never abuse it. You may feel offended by that but everyone has the right to determine their own levels of openness and information sharing on sites like this and I think regardless of how much each commenter reveals about themselves we should just concentrate on what this site is about – sharing opinions on topical events – and leave the identity and personal stuff to facebook and other social contact sites.
I like ATW because I know all us regulars and occasional commeters are free to post their views on any topic here, and I think it ruins the spirit of ATW if we have a situation where various people can only comment on certain parts or comments are off on any topic. You may be furious with Phantom, but the answer to your anger at him (and anyone else) should always be a verbal response not the censors pen.
Troll,
“It is once again time for me to do an identity post.”
Same title as this one?
Frank
You wicked..ly funny man
that would be good Frank…lol
Colm
I don’t mind anyone keeping to what ever level of anonymity that they want. Monica gets very upset when I use my name, because of the incident that happened here in the past, and my views on certain cultures those of a religious bend that tend to get violent aren’t exactly love inspiring.
However these are Phantoms words
It’s hard to say that is not accusatory
and that state preceded these:
Note the 4th sentence, and the insult in general to the blog as a whole.
No he needs to recant those words
Well Troll, I think Phantom is wrong to call you a bad person or to presume that you would use your privileges on ATW to personally damage a contributor and I agree that whatever he thinks about your views, he should apologise for those claims.
thats all I ask
Are there any ‘bad’ people on this site?
I can’t really say that there are because I don’t know for sure but I’ve been here long enough to say that it’s highly unlikely. There are certainly disagreeable people but that’s only because they disagree with me.
What really does annoy me is when there is a refusal to engage in debate, leaving juvenile quips in place of a considered response to a contentious point. That is the only matter on which I would ask DV to place in a ‘code of conduct’ to all contributors to this site.
Alan No the bad people have been removed, although new ones can always show up.
debates are relative things, how does one enforce a debate code?
I agree with some of your comments and I disagree with others. on the ones I disagree with you on I could try to convince you to another point of view, I doubt that I would be able to. So you get a one line response. Sorry nothing personal just the way it is
Besides Jo, who was the other person who went after people personally??
That horrid tea woman, can’t recall her many handles, stalked and threatened David. The old gal was batshit crazy and mean as a snake.
Troll, you really oughtn’t ban Phantom. There’s been plenty of times you’ve said rude, offensive or hurtful things that impugn another’s honor, intelligence or integrity. Hell, nearly all of the regulars on this site have done so to one another repeatedly when the dander gets high or someone’s drink gets loose.
Forgive and let live. Or hold an eternal, thin-skinned petty grudge (like Pattycakes), but don’t slam shut David’s open door policy of lively debate and vicious shitflinging on a regular commenter and fellow contributor just because your honor got a tad bruised in the heat of battle.
Come on, if a size six gal from Texas can take the slings and arrows of atw’s hard grind, I expect a tough Philly boy like you can man up equally well.
Grace, my friend. Practice a little forgiving grace.
Listen to Daphne Troll. If a pale faced weasly limey like me can’t convince you to unban Phantom surely you will listen to the wise words of a good red blooded all American Texas Gal .
Remember, censorship is what commies do. No man with the stars and stripes flowing through his veins should even consider it
He’s probably going to ban you Colm for associating him with commie censorship.
Shoot, I’ll probably get the backside because I think Patty’s a barking twit.
Like most reasonable folks here, I have a cherry sweet, fond spot for Troll’s enthusiast efforts and big heart even when I think he’s gone off the political rails.
I think that he’s totally and completely deranged but yes Daphne, there’s no denying it.
Crazy Man Troll -
“I agree with some of your comments and I disagree with others. on the ones I disagree with you on I could try to convince you to another point of view, I doubt that I would be able to. So you get a one line response.”
A commie’s response.
We’re all influenced by things we read and watch, and none of them are one-liners. The dismissive, one-line response in here is given in avoidance of debate.
Where some people will write 50 or 200 or 500 words for a notion they already support, they’ll write six in response to reasoned debate and evidence which goes against their neo-con beliefs and cherished national mythologies. And yes, it’s the American men who do the avoiding.
No wonder they can’t win a war anymore. They’re always running away.
Pete, wait till they beat Iran, Syrians & pakis to a bloody pulp!!
Kisses Paul. Hope all is well with you and yours, good man.
Troll is a decent man (I expect mongolo Patty is an equally decent woman)
“…Or hold an eternal, thin-skinned petty grudge (like Pattycakes)”
you are projecting, Daphne.
my issue with you is not personal. afterall, how could it be? I don’t know you. I have never met you. I don’t believe half of what you write about your personal life or personal opinions so I have not formed an opinion of you. you could be a gay woman living in Vermont and wearing birkenstocks for all I know.
furthermore, your personal life is of little interest to me.
my issue with you is conceptual/political. You have no political principals. On the one hand, you say that you support less government/more freedom. But, you advocate sitting at home rather than voting – you actively scorn the small government Tea Party – you ridicule Republican Party activists. Taken seriously, this type of thing results in a win for Obama and the Progressive Dems- bigger government, less freedom.
How do you square this circle?
Honey girl, until you realize that your blind pie in the sky fealty to corporate GOP feedlots have reduced you to a cheap whore supping at a wasteland of statist political failings, I can’t help but try to bitch slap you into reality.
The GOP isn’t your high-minded saviour friend anymore than the Democrats are Satan’s socialist spawn.
Why vote if both choices god awful? I’ll step back and let you own the blame of this corrupt game, I’m not playing on this tilted board anymore.
It’s not worthy of me.
I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree then, Daphne.
“Bitch slapping me into reality” is not really a winning strategy — and neither is sitting on the sidelines during election cycles because you feel politics is a “corrupt game.”
The Phantom controls his own situation if he apologizes for his unjust accusation it will be excepted.
I have no problem with rudeness, or vulgarity, even insanity. What I have is an issue with undeserved accusations. I have never betrayed any of you. I have stood up for each of you at one time or another as well as verbally assaulting each of you, and when I have crossed the line I have apologized.
It is what I expect from him, without it why should he even want to comment on any of my insane ramblings,. According to him I am a man that can’t be trusted.
Talk to him, not me.
Troll,
Begging for apologies isn’t very classy.
I beg for nothing, I state a fact. If I don’t get it I don’t care.
If he doesn’t retract his false accusation he is not welcome PERIOD.
Daphne
so then you just don’t care. If you can’t bring yourself to participate in the system, then your nothing but a whiner.
You talk of bitchslapping Patty, whether her beliefs are right are wrong, she at least cares enough to participate.
You on the other hand just want to bitch. That’s a good example of why both parties have become what they are. It’s because people like you can’t get off their fat ass even if it’s to write in a vote for someone who doesn’t have a prayer, but you believe in.
All you believe in is drinking an bitchin