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FLYING THE WHITE FLAG…. ?

By ATWadmin On November 3rd, 2006


ba-planes203.jpgBritish Airways has complained that the major UK terror alert back in August has cost it dearly, with profits down by 27%.  Had Al Queda succeeded in destroying several aircraft leaving UK airports,  I wonder how much further down profits would be?


I also wonder just how opportunistic British Airways are being here – since they casually mention that they were also running a loss-making subsidiary during this time? I fully appreciate the difficulties that must be involved in running a major air carrier at a time when certain Islamists seek to use aircraft as flying bombs and certain politicians see a chance to scam more taxation out of the Industry under the guise of global warming. But the fact is BA MADE substantial profits even during this difficult period and so I am somewhat cynical about the whining that has accompanied this latest financial report. The war on terror carries a price – for us all. 

31 Responses to “FLYING THE WHITE FLAG…. ?”

  1. i have 100% confidence in the belief that the august plot was a false flag. and a double bonus for our government. a "terrorist plot" to keep us on edge, and reduction in passenger numbers, reduction in oil usage. yada yada. simple really.

    Google: "Operation Gladio" – This is nothing new.

  2. For you it’s not Tripper!

  3. its not new for anyone who bothers to research past the obvious spin. which alledgedly sceptical people like yourself claim they do.

    heres a 1992 Beeb doco, i found inside 2 minutes of googling. i havent watched it, but im guessing itll be a good primer.

    http://unfilterednewsnetwork.com/node/279?PHPSESSID=0e1b525606c4cbffc818c370a330b0c6

    the war on terror is almost copletely phony. and its high time we took our governments to task on it. they have pulled the wool over most peoples eyes. and people like you are useful fools, for believing it and taking it even further. i have severe doubts about the legitimacy of the official stories of all major attacks since and including 119.

    cue moonbat slurs, without bothering to research these genuine concerns.

  4. Dateraper

    Your just a fool, the drunken fantasy world of your mind is nothing more than an example of what a combination of bad drink and liberal politics can do to a person.

  5. your ignorance merely spurs me on troll. this isnt x-files. operation gladio actually happened. our governments have a track record of causing terrorism (including fatal bombings) and blaming it on the then ideological enemy of communism.

  6. yeah and the jews flew the planes into the WTC and MI5 blew up the trains in England…. Plus we all know that Prescot Bush and the Rockafellers financed Hitler, but it doesn’t matter because just before we all have a major nuclear exchange the Aliens will freeze our weopons from their space ships and will all sing kim bayah …. LOL have another shot of whisky dateraper

  7. The threat was real and is real.

    Nonetheless, look forward to flying to London tonight on the 8pm Virgin Atlantic plane into Heathrow.

    They codeshare with Continental,so the Continental ticket I fly Virgin out and on a Continental plane out of Gatwick back.

    Semper fi, baby.

  8. Enjoy the flight Phantom… Hooo Rah

  9. i see that rightwingers can throw around offensive insults again.

    the very fact that you have to defend the official stories so feircely speaks volumes. maybe thats because they rely on people not analysing them too deeply.

  10. David, are you going to let this kind of thing (Troll 03:46PM) go and is it now a free-for-all as regards insults and calling each other names, etc?

    If so, I hope this latitude applies to everyone this time?

  11. Cunningham

    Oh so now we are not allowed to call a spade a spade?? I think and believe that anyone that holds the fantasy conspiratorialist beliefs that Dateraper holds is either a drunk, a fool, or mentally incompetant. In his case his postings have more than proved through a cummulative toll that he fits into all 3 catagories.

    As for these being insults you have no clue what insults are… just another thin skinned euro wheenie

  12. –I have 100% confidence in the belief that the august plot was a false flag. and a double bonus for our government. a "terrorist plot" to keep us on edge, and reduction in passenger numbers, reduction in oil usage. yada yada. simple really.–

    daytripper

    I hope you’re pulling people’s legs on this. I know some believe this stuff, but you are too smart to be one of them. Too silly to even discuss.

  13. you can call me what you want troll, i really dont care. its rare you will hear such childish ranting from me. where i may be a little brusk, i at least manage a modicum of civility.

    but keep it coming. because there is nothing more energising than being singled out for personal attack, generally in avoidance of any dialogue or critique of my arguments.

  14. DT, Here in Dallas we’ve had 40+ years of conspiracy theories with the Kennedy Assasination. It all boils down to this. Massive conspiracies can’t long exist b/c it requires that NO ONE TALKS. In an age where the media is so hostile to both the Bush and Blair administrations, the fact that no one credible has leaked the information you cite proves it doesn’t exist.

    As to BA, I’m so sorry the the fat cats aren’t making enough money whilst better men than themselves are fighting and dieing for liberty.

    "We are poor little lambs that have lost our way,

    BA, BA, BA………

    Phantom, I’m jealoous! Have a safe trip.

  15. Charles

    I’ll have a Bass for you.

    And a Guinness, a Double Diamond, a Newcastle Brown Ale, and an Old Speckled Hen. And maybe something else.

  16. –Massive conspiracies can’t long exist b/c it requires that NO ONE TALKS. In an age where the media is so hostile to both the Bush and Blair administrations, the fact that no one credible has leaked the information you cite proves it doesn’t exist.–

    Correct. There are four main reasons why all this is bullshit: a) what you’ve said-impossible to keep a massive, horrible secret, b) people are not that evil to do these things, and c) its against everyone’s economic interest to attack one’s own country and d) there’s not a shred of evidence to back up any of these theories, WTC or other.

    Other than that, I place great credence in these theories.

  17. "I hope you’re pulling people’s legs on this."

    im being completely serious. and at least have the balls to be open about it. i can guaruntee im not alone in these suspicions. do some research on operation gladio, and then get back to me whether you think our governments are incapable of murdering its own citizens, via terrorist acts, for its own ends.

    its not to silly. its too frightening. thats why people are unwilling to discuss it, and our governments continue to get away with it.

    you have had one terrorist attack in 5 years, and yet its portrayed as though its a continual blitz like campaign. co-incidence? no. politicians lies about everything, including the war on terror.

  18. "There are four main reasons why all this is bullshit"

    Those and the facts that the ‘truthers’ are all still walking and talking.

    http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

  19. Again, back to my experiance with the killing of Kennedy.

    Tripper, I don’t think you are any of the odious things describe above. You are a sane person trying to make sense of an insane world. These theories are a way for people to wrap there minds around the situation, to try to make sense of things that just don’t. Global jihad, planes crashing into building, mothers hiding bombs in the nappies of there 6 month old babies to kill as many as possible. It all just doesn’t compute!

  20. Frank

    Spot on.

    daytripper

    We in NY/USA have had one attack in five years, but the world has hardly had "just" one attack in the five years, I regard the terrorist attacks in London, Madrid, Bali, and other places as attacks against me and the human family, and I am just as angry about them as I was about 9/11.

    The reaction of most here at the Truthers, including the many here who were in the WTC until the day before it fell, and in some cases until the hour before it fell–a shake of the head, with pity. There’s no anger to be felt against someone who deals with great evil by spinning tales about governments knocking down towers in their own cities, shutting down Heathrow to save fuel, whatever.

  21. "Massive conspiracies can’t long exist b/c it requires that NO ONE TALKS."

    the results may be massive. the conspiracy doesnt have to be. intelligence networks are compartmentalised in order to protect themselves. few people need know the ultimate goal that culminates as a result of many smaller missions.

    "In an age where the media is so hostile to both the Bush and Blair administrations, the fact that no one credible has leaked the information you cite proves it doesn’t exist."

    i dont buy it. the media is complicit in so much core scandal and coverup. it took an eon before the press would touch the story that 3000 people were dying a month in iraq. total news blackout, which bizarrely i knew about earlier this year. they all fell into line in the run up to the iraq war. even tho the dog on the street knew they were lying. why? mass media is controlled by very few people who have the power to block reports from being put on air. in the case of 911 there have been very many, actively blocked. indira singh and the ptech scandal being one of the most significant, IMO. journalists have lost their jobs trying to push these stories.

    "There are four main reasons why all this is bullshit: a) what you’ve said-impossible to keep a massive, horrible secret, b) people are not that evil to do these things, and c) its against everyone’s economic interest to attack one’s own country and d) there’s not a shred of evidence to back up any of these theories, WTC or other."

    a) its not impossible to keep a secret. tens of thousands of people worked on the manhattan project, yet few knew until hiroshima. less than a handful would need to know the full details of a terror attack plot.
    b) the holocaust. yes they are
    c) war is the most profitable industry known to man.
    d) care to explain WTC 7 ? it barely even gets a mention in the official commission report. apart from an open ended statement saying they dont have a clue why it collapsed.

    care to explain why the whitehouse claimed that they had no idea that terrorists would use planes as missiles, yet the entire north east air defense sector was contucting multipule hijack exercises, using false radar blips and live fly, on the very day of the attack. (the same thing happened on 7/7 by the way.)

    care to explain why the ISI wired 100000 dollars to mohammad atta a week before 911, and were then in washington having high level talks before during and after the attacks?

    care to explain why the visas of all the hyjackers were expeditied, or fast tracked, with no oversight. even though continual warnings were raised by embassy staff?

    care to explain why several hyjackers put as their US address an american airbase. where it is alledged they also received flight training several years ago?

    at the very least explain why the intelligence reports of multipule nations was completely ignored, even though the independantly pointed to the same conspiracy?

    its not conspiracy theory, its a mammouth collection of unanswered questions, which create a very disturbing picture.

    read this.

    http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/02_11_02_lucy.html

    as for JFK ill leave you in the capable hands of Bill Hicks (RIP):

    "But we always kill those good guys […], you ever notice that? And let the demons run amok. Jesus mudered; Martin Luther King mudered; Malcolm X murdered; Gandhi murdered; John Lennon murdered; Reagan…. wounded."

  22. DT, How do we not know that you’re in the conspiracy, and trying to throw us off with disinformation? It’s all clearer to me now. Flying off for weeks at a time to Florida. Atta went there, didn’t he? Trips to the gun range, target practicing for fun, so you say. Hmmm.

  23. I do not have the time to respond point by point to each of these items now, but will say this now

    a) Manhattan Project was conducted in a time so different from ours it may as well be the Middle Ages. The country was 100% united behind the war, there were no moveon.org types speaking against it, the NY Times of that day would never have printed sensitive classified information. No internet. No mass media other than radio, and they were not really national and they themselves would not have broadcast sensitive data. The researchers were in an isolated area, and they had more honor than many do today. The whistleblower of that time would have been placed whre he belonged-in front of a firing squad.

    7WTC was no mystery. I am very familiar with that building. Hit by debris from the collapsing towers, it caught fire. The fire spread unchecked, fed by an large fuel tank on an upper floor, when all the firemen and tenants were evacuated in the context of the massive collapses around them.

    The building collapsed. Put any building to enough stress, it will collapse, including the buildings you and I are in now.

    There’s no story here. Will maybe respond further from London.

    Providing Dick Cheney doesn’t shoot down my plane in his flying saucer!

  24. And the Holocaust is not an example–the Nazis did not regard the Jews of Germany or elsewhere as fellow Germans, Europeans, or as human beings. You tell me which individuals would willingly kill 2900 fellow Americans (and others)

    It is a blood libel

  25. DT – taking a bit of a low road with that conspiracy theory or just taking the piss? Either way it is far more insulting than anything Troll said to you.

  26. It’s not that I don’t think cover-ups ever happen, but I don’t believe the conspiracy theories about 9/11 or 7/7.

  27. the facts are the facts. The islamic facists have said they are at war with the west. That means Britain/USA and who ever stands with us (plus always the Jews) They have said they are responsible for attacks A,B,C, etc only wetbrained alcaholics, drug addicts, or people with a mental imbalence would rather believe that Darth Vader in the Vice Presidents mansion through his evil oil empire minions plotted the whole thing out to get the oil from the ME….LOL

    Bottom line there are a bunch of really sick religous fanatics in the desert of the ME that because of oil have too much money to buy guns and bombs with, and they hate the west because we think its wrong to bed 12 year old girls and rape any woman because she’s a woman killing her afterwards because she made them rape her buy just being a woman…..

  28. "You tell me which individuals would willingly kill 2900 fellow Americans (and others)"

    the same ones who willing send nearly the same amount to die in iraq, for the same reasons.

    "Either way it is far more insulting than anything Troll said to you."

    insulting to whom exactly? it is thanks to 911 victims families and their tireless research that any of this stuff is known. they were among the first to question the official story. and continue to do so.

    i shall continue this later. im off to enjoy my smuggled tequila 🙂

  29. Right,

    I’ve caught up with some of these comments and want to set everybody straight on this.

    I do think that Tripper is mad, but that’s OK because there are some who think I am mad. I tolerate.

    However, I don’t want use of offensive terms like Dateraper on this site. Troll please note.

    I also don’t want endless ad hominem attacks.

    Now you lot ALL behave, stop forcing me to waste my time with these little lectures, enjoy your freedom but, as Spiderman makes clwar, with great power comes great responsibility. Get it?

  30. Well said, David. Thanks.

  31. David

    I attempted to post a comment from a Blackberry last night. But I could not–though I can READ from BB, cannot post, due to lack of (whatever technology it said that the BB does not have). The old site could accept posts from Blackberries.

    But for the sake of Daytripper I will repeat the gist of what I said.

    I counsel against mentioning "victim’s families". Say "some victims families" if you must, as some are into this stuff.

    But I actually know a number of victims families. And there isn’t a one that has anything but contempt for the theories of "controlled demolition" or that "the govt knew" or that "United 67 was shot down" or any of those things.

    They’re terribly sad about what happened to them five years ago, but they have zero doubt about what happened and to who did it.One of the widows has been critical of matters of skyscraper safety codes, those of 2001 and those now, but will you trust me that there is not a one who give the slightest credence to theories about govt complicity or any of that.

    No one speaks for ‘the families’. Most family members either never joined a group or signed up in the early days and then didn’t go to meetings.

    The vocal critics are a small minority of the families and the believers in what I believe to be fringe and kooky theories are an exceptionally tiny fragment.

    And by the way, most of those who I know the best are actually very happy with the support that they have received from then Mayor Giuliani and from President Bush.

    BTW, most of them, incl the children are doing better than you might imagine