Newest Pharaoh – “Let My People Go”
By Mahons On June 29th, 2012Egypt’s new President announced he will try to have Omar Abdel Rahman (the blind terrorist plotter) who is serving a sentence in a North Carolina Prison freed and returned home to Egypt. How nice.
Kind of makes one miss Mubarak. As bucket lists go I can’t see any sane and rational person wanting to help Omar Abdel Rahman gain his freedom anytime soon. But of course there is no accounting for taste. Those who have unmitigated joy at the results of Arab Spring in Egypt might want to take another look at the results, unless of course they think that by being blind themselves they are further supporting Rahman.
If the new president of Egypt is signaling anything, it is that his priorities and sense of duty to the community of nations needs some work.
Told ya told ya told ya
The Shah looks like Thomas Jefferson compared with those who run Iran now, and Mubarak will be no different.
Time to reconsider all the aid that goes into Egypt, and everything else too.
No surprise from the most Islamist squat on earth.
What was the administration thinking when they funded and supported the Arab Spring?
Daphne – I don’t even support Irish Spring (the commercials were terrible).
Looks like we’ve gone straight from spring to winter with no summer in between
Sounds like the weather here.
Time to reconsider all the aid that goes into Egypt, and everything else too.
All that aid is a payoff for agreeing to the Camp David Accords. It has nothing to do with how nice or otherwise the government of Egypt is.
If the new president of Egypt is signaling anything, it is that his priorities and sense of duty to the community of nations needs some work.
I suspect he is just throwing a bone to his Islamist supporters. He knows that there is no chance of it happening.
I do think there is also a danger of pontificating to the Middle East, saying they need to become more democratic and then cutting the purse strings as soon as they vote for someone we don’t like. We can’t just support Middle Eastern democracy as long as they elect a western puppet and oppose it when they don’t. The Middle East will catch on pretty quickly if that is what we are doing.
Few – Pardon the expression but screw his Islamic supporters and the camel he road in on if that is what he is doing. If he wants international respect he can’t be playing to the lowest and most violent denominator.
Mubarak was no puppet or he would have done much more of what we wanted. he would have implemented the liberal reforms he was asked to do.
The question was whether the West had much interest in liberal reforms in Egypt. The West only cared about Egypt on a foreign policy level. As long as Egyptian tanks were aimed at Egyptians and not Israelis then the West was pretty happy with Mubarak.
so he holds the Santa hatted bomber of the World Trade Center as a hero… I’m shocked
Seamus
Israel is the only nation that deserves support from the west, it will get none from any nation except from the US. The rest of you will cheer while it is attacked, My Nephews will be on the front lines. Will yours?
terrorists should dream about monsters for one night and then… move on to hell.
Mahons The Egypt Expert strikes again!
Troll – You’ve had a battering on some other threads tonight, and dare I say it, you’ve deserved it !
I can take anything these clowns dish out
There are many reasons my nephew won’t be. Firstly the fact that he’s 2.
seamy, your nephew will grow up ashamed of you and hopefully will ‘MOVE ON’ and discard the scum you support.
LU, I expect your good mother would wash your mouth out with soap and hand her head in shame if she witnessed your ugly bullying and constant battering of Seamus.
Why don’t you try picking on somebody who won’t put up your insane abuse?
Ever fought a Texan?
Dukes up, you soliptic twit.
‘soliptic’ – Ooh Daphne’s swallowed a dictionary
Oh dear…
Unlike seamy, I have stood against ALL terrorists in the cold light of day, Daphne.
You probably meant ‘hang her head in shame’, as opposed to ‘hand herself in shame’, but as an American with your version of Her Majesty’s diction, I do not expect anything other.
A Texan?
Pah. lol, nah, last time your eejits were involved in Iraq in the first Gulf, where I was, we lost more to your moronic imbelic and ignorant forces than we did to the Iraqis.
Next time, come back to me with a real life example, you twit.
No personal offence intended Mahons but weren’t you one of the many a few days ago praising the Queen’s handshake with terrorist Godfather Martin McGuinness?
So a non repentant IRA terrorist is ok but this guy Rahman isn’t? How so?
Has Egypt not moved on? Is it not what the people want and voted for? Is it not time to forgive?
Or is there one rule for one and one for others in your world view?
oh JM, come on…
you cannot question a commander of the ira and equate same with this, don’t you know?
It will take away the catholics’ excuse for voting for the scum.
Don’t you understand ‘progress’?
LU and JM
Put a sock in it.
With no respect at all Colm why don’t you do likewise?
I don’t speak for LU but i am as entitled to express a view or opinion here as anyone else (including you).
Until David…and only David says otherwise.
JM
Absolutely agree with you – I would not want to stop you and LU from boring people to death with your one track record.
If i’m boring you i suggest you take yourself off and read another thread?
I respect Mahon’s opinions and the question (point) i have made is a valid one and i would welcome his response.
Maybe it doesn’t matter in your really exiting life but it matters to me. If you don’t like it you won’t be surprised to find that i couldn’t give a fiddlers.
Colm,
again, if you do not like it, either come back in written opposition, or then go forward into the night.
SIMPLE.
I and others are entitled to our opinions, and if you want to object, then engage and tell us why.
As I said before, better to be accused of boring people to death than murdering thousands.
EH?
I guess you will go quiet now…
Well said JM.
They don’t like it up ‘em…
Boring pricks have invaded ATW.
Indeed Daphne.
I would have thought better of Colm but you learn something everyday.
Daphne.
It is common recurrence … you are obviously sexually repressed
You are obsessed with it.
Will you be ok?
David, time to cull the herd.
I agree.
There was no need for Colm’s rudeness whatsoever.
But, Hey, none of us are perfect i suppose.
Daphne,
close your eyes and take deep breaths.
Do you suggest those with the horn should be culled?
Or do you think those with udders should be milked?
JM – Interesting point. Here’s my answer – McGuinness no longer advocates for terrorist activity, Rahman still does and in fact his main support is from active terrorist organizations.
I am no McGuiness fan. I can’t wait until his generation in SF fades away. And I’ve no doubts as to his complicity in the terror campaigns of the IRA. And if I was a resident of NI I’d never vote for him.
JM,
no need to apologise.
They give out rude remarks and you and I have been calm and responsive, as it should be.
If people cannt control themselves about sexual fantasies and plain intolerance from a source I would expect more from, then it is incument on bloggers to retort.
If they resort to insults, then that is their loss, and everyone can see their lack of coherent conterpoint.
c’est la vie…
OH LA LA!
EH, DAPHNE? LOL
Mahons fair play to you.
Until the majoirty of catholics follow your lead, we can never move on for ALL of us.
I also hope he and the terrorists from before are sidelined and dumped as they should be sometime very soon, but also understand his ‘speech’ yesterday at Westminster was to make sure
the mugs, ah, the sfira members stayed in line and he said some real tough rhetoric.LOL He even went on about a united Ireland.
About as much sense as putting your money into Greece at present. LMAO
Fair enough Mahons.
But i think it’s important to realise that the IRA haven’t gone away. They are still active and the moment that SF stop getting what they want the violence, murder and bombing will re-commence.
The time is still not right for SF or the PUP to be accepted as part of a Democratic Government at least until those that were actively involved in acts of terrorism are long gone.
Egypt will learn, unfortunately, the price they have to pay for letting the likes of Rahman have anything to do with legitimate politics.
LU and JM
You both affect an air of moral superiority regarding the Northern Irish conflict which neither of you have. Both of you have a simplistic and sectarian narrow minded and unintelligent attitude no different from any other loudmouth from the province. You both are as much of the problem as the solution. Churchill talked about how after the dust of WW1 had settled the dreary steeples of Ulster would still bore the arses off everyone (or words to that effect) , I think he meant you two
The dreary steeples of Fermanagh
The boy did have a way with words
Logical – You lose ground here by the anti-Catholicism and nature of your attacks here. I can’t explain to you enough how much your attitude drives others into the arms of SF types. You really ought to reconsider the nature of your exchanges.
People here disagree a lot, and strongly. If you are uniting people who generally disagree over other things into an agreement that you are over the top you may want to tone it down. The trick in debate is to persuade.
Ah, Colm.
Such insolence.
When will you learn from your masters?
I have served in NI for many years and defended ALL citizens and I am very well qualified to comment on the problems, and not withstanding I am ENTITLED to as my opinion is as valuable as the next person’s is.
However, I am rather more qualified than the ‘ordinary’ person, due to my past service and will take no lectures or moral guidance from you colm.
I DO have a moral superiorty of anyone who votes for sfira or any other terrorist, and I think it is to your detriment that you even have the audacity to attempt to demean my position and past efforts to save life in our country.
You Colm, are an utter buffoon.
You know NOTHING about it.
JM – They are a shadow of their former selves. The incidence level of violence is dramatically different. There is no real level of support for the former ways. In fact, their support has simply dried up to a degree that they’ll never be able to come back.
Colm
Perhaps you would be kind enough to provide a link to ANYTHING sectarian i have ever said here on ATW?
I guarantee you won’t find it.
Well my appeal to reason seems to have worked. Like the Bay of Pigs invasion.
Mahons.
In short; nonsense.
If people want to vote for the ira, they will, and they do in their droves, and until they stop, NI will never move on.
Meanwhile the ‘peace walls’ are being built higher and more frequently, the taigs cannot tolerate orange marches…
Dream on all you want about persuading, but it is complete utopia.
It will come around again, and machine gun marty’s speech at trying to harness the hawks won’t wash this time around…
LU – Except that it has in fact moved on.
@Mahons…
Sorry…
But i’ve been accused of something i’m not.
I think i’m entitled to defend myself under those circumstances especially when my accuser has no idea whatsoever what my Religious denomination is or what my politics are?
Mahons, wise up.
The mantra of ‘moving on’ and ‘making progress’ is designed to convince the gullible…don’t tell me you are conned as well? lol
The polarisation of NI is continuing and getting worse; the paramilitaries are gaining influence all thaks to a ‘peace process’.
The decimation of the greatest anti terrorist force in the world due to the appeasement of ira scum in return for no bombs in London leaves the ordinary people in NI exposed and under the thumb of terrorists.
JM, best of luck on that…they think I am an orange man. (;))
JM – All I can recall is you played professional football in Canada.
LU – The statistics simply don’t back you up.
@Mahons…
Good Lord, the Calgary Strikers. Given Canada’s short summer two games must have been a full season.
Petr – good to hear from you and I know you are working on the viable alternative to Mubarak.
JM
What years?
Soccer or gridiron?
That’s interesting stuff
Say more
Mahons, your thread was fatally derailed by the current in-house lunatic.
Ah i new someone was bound to ask sooner or later
If i remember correctly it was in the mid to late 80′s. There were only about 6 teams in the Canadian Soccer League.
I was on holiday with a relative from Calgary who was on the coaching staff with the team and i had went with him to the training sessions a few times. They must have liked what they saw and invited me to ‘guest’ on a couple of friendly pre season games they had arranged. One was against Edmonton and the other was against a US team whose name i can’t recall (i think they were from Miami?). I was put on a temporary contract for Insurance purposes but they didn’t need International clearance as both games were friendlys.
They offered me a full time professional contract which i didn’t take unfortunately…or fortunately as the CSL folded shortly afterwards. I was very homesick. I recall that they did have a really professional setup and the Stadium they played in was fantastic. The standard was pretty good as were the terms and the money i was offered…but i decided against a potential move to Canada.
I still have the Edmonton shirt somewhere….i swapped it with one of their players at the end of the game.
That’s cool
Hey at least you played for a pro team, a great bar room conversation for life
Daphne, do you fancy me?
Mahons, the statistics do indeed support my assertions; check out the number of ‘peace walls’ built since the so called peace process.
Then come back to me, cap in hand…
LU, I don’t know how far you’ll get with our Americans here, but, while no doubt you’d like to stop all “Fenians” and “Taigs” from voting in NI, but you can’t stop them from calling you on your bullshit.
By far the majority of peace walls were built before the peace process. In fact, since the ceasefires several of them have been opened, and there are plans to open even more in the near future.
So mahons is more right about NI than you are.
Disappointing as it obviously is to you, there are far fewer people being killed and far less destruction of property since Tony Blair, Bill Clinton and Gerry Adams forced Unionists to accept peace and justice, as all honest and intelligent people at the time had predicted.
If “the paramilitaries are gaining influence”, as you claim, that is only in the drug war that is being waged by Loyalists on your side of the fence. And, then again, these thugs are the very people that you and your UDR buddies armed and assisted for decades, so you should be the last person to complain if the Unionist community is getting a fraction of the stuff originally meant for “them Taigs”.
Noel, you gave me the first laugh of the day. I use the term taigs as ‘they’ use the derogatory term ‘prods’. Simple as.
Actually, since the Belfast Agreement, there has been an INCREASE in so called peace walls, so I am afraid, you and Mahons are WRONG.
See here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-17198481
Next time, get your facts right, and maybe I might even take you seriously. lol
I look forward to your humiliating climbdown.
Noel
It’s too early in the morning to bombard some people with the truth
Colm,
have a look yourself and perhaps you can see the TRUTH for yourself.
Thanks.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-17198481
22 to 48 is in my book an INCREASE.
Nothing to say Noel?
Where have you gone? lol
“Nothing to say Noel?”
Well, actually, I have: that you are still talking bullshit.
Only approx. one third of peace walls were built since the ceasefires. While it’s obviously impossible to define exactly what a peace wall is and when it was built (some are small fences, some are walls with open gates, some are open part of the day and closed at night, etc.), the Belfast Interface Project issues regular reports on the situation and the confirm that two third of the current walls were already there at the time of the ceasefires, and, as I said above, that some have been opened in recent years and that even more will be opened in the near future.
= and confirmS that two thirdS
(whatever about Phantom and Troll coming and going, what this site needs is an editor to come and stay)