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A TINY TRAGEDY…

By ATWadmin On November 3rd, 2006

You know sometimes one focuses so much on the big issues that afflict this world, that tiny tragedies slip by un-noticed. I was reading this news story about how the father of four girls found murdered in their blazing home was concerned about the state of his disintegrating marriage. Friends said Mohammed Riaz, 49, had begun to fear that his Anglo-Pakistani wife, Caneze, was having an affair and it seems one thing led to another and …four young girls lost their lives. Mr Riaz had become devout in his devotion to Islam and centred his life around the local Mosque, apparently.

I have nothing to say about the rights and wrongs of this case other than to observe the desperation, anger and horror that lies behind the headlines. God bless the poor young girls, murdered by their own father. 

20 Responses to “A TINY TRAGEDY…”

  1. and the wife. Having read about the guy banged up for suffocating his daighter to exact revenge on his wife, im starting to wonder…guys. whats up with that? Perceived betrayals resulting in such violent and unnecessary death? Is this a mostly masculine trait?

  2. Alison,

    I dodn’t realise his wife was also murdered. Shocking. Is such violence a masculine trait – I hope not. It is certainly a dangerous trait.

  3. God grant me strenth. I don’t give a damn if these guys wants to commit suicide but to take the lives of children…hope they all rot in hell.

  4. You can avoid rights & wrongs without goint to these lengths –

    <i>Arson <b>victim</b> loses <b>fight for life</b></i>

    http://www.halifaxtoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=700&ArticleID=1859325

  5. this is not a masculine trait, this is the twisted sickness of islamic machismo remember in the eyes of islam he was justified in killing his daughters for his wifes behavior. Just like the woman who was sentenced in saudi yesterday to 90 lashes for riding in a car with a man other than her husband. Oh and he got 80 lashes for raping her… thats right he got ten less for being the rapist she got more for being the victim

  6. This is just another example of the difficulty many Muslims face in trying to come to terms with the modern world. In this instance it led to the murder of innocent children by a man who is likely to have suffered from mental health problems as a consequence of his internal battles in reconciling Islam with the world he lived in.

  7. Sadly the murder of children by a parent is a phenomenon confined neither to the Islamic religion or the male gender.

  8. Henry94: murder of children by a parent is not confined to Islam, but the mistreatment of women, and female children seems to be condoned by islam and that’s what is most troubling. islam doesn’t say "mistreat women" but it does permit honor killings, lashings for rape victims, justification of rape etc.

  9. "islam doesn’t say "mistreat women" but it does permit honor killings, lashings for rape victims, justification of rape etc."

    According to you. But then it would only be the logical conclusion of judaism (which says that women have no rights) and christianity (which says that women are the source of all evil).

    "The bible teaches that women brought sin and death into the world, that she precipitated the fall of the race, that she was arraigned before the judgment seat of Heaven, tried, condemned and sentenced. Marriage for her was to be a condition of bondage, maternity a period suffering and anguish, and in silence and subjection, she was to play the role of a dependent on man’s bounty for all her material wants, and for all the information she might desire… Here is the Bible position of woman briefly summed up.

    Elizabeth Cady Stanton"

  10. Very very tragic!

    It is not religon that murdered these children but a very flawed human being.

  11. <em>"a man who is likely to have suffered from mental health problems as a consequence of his internal battles in reconciling Islam with the world he lived in."</em>

    What a bunch of crap. Don’t try to justify this behavior with your psycho-babble bullshit.

    Don’t you either, O’Dwyer. There isn’t a Christian I know (and I know lots) who would condone murdering their children for a perceived slight by their wife.

    Face it. Mohammedism is a cult that preaches hatred and subjugation of women.

    That rat-bastard couldn’t have done everyone a favor and offed himself, could he?

  12. "There isn’t a Christian I know (and I know lots) who would condone murdering their children for a perceived slight by their wife."

    And you don’t know any Muslim who has condoned that either.

  13. Maybe Monica-Philadelphia doesn’t know any Muslim personally who would have condoned the murder of these children but there is plenty of evidence coming out of countries whose religion – Islam does condone honour killings, rape and brutal subjugation of women. Maybe you should read more Frank O’Dwyer before spouting trite little comments.

  14. The above episode of non-sequitur theatre brought to you by Maggie.

    I read enough to notice that despite the combined might of your bigotry you provide nothing to support your insinuations that Islam caused this incident.

    I also read for comprehension and I suggest you try it.

  15. "I also read for comprehension and I suggest you try it".

    I suppose this will enable me to make trite comments will it and lessen my attitude of bigotry toward the r.o.p.

  16. O’Dwyer knows so much, doesn’t he? He knows me. He knows the people I work with. He knows my neighbors. One of whom happens to be a moslem who keeps his kids away from non-moslems, who beats his wife (she now never leaves the house without her robes I noticed. She used to but not anymore…).

    Thank you O’Dwyer. You have educated the ignorant masses, me included. You have such insight. Such a fair and balanced O’Dwyer you are. You are the voice of reason. Again – I say, ‘Thank You!’

  17. Maggie,

    "I suppose this will enable me to make trite comments will it"

    You already make trite comments.

    "and lessen my attitude of bigotry toward the r.o.p."

    Anything is possible. Would that be so terrible?

    Monica,

    "One of whom happens to be a moslem who keeps his kids away from non-moslems, who beats his wife"

    And you don’t know any christians who keep their kids away from non-christians and beat their spouses? I’m not sure what you think your ignorance proves.

    Perhaps you remember Andrea Yates. She got interested in religion, didn’t she? Oh and homeschooling, too. And she got in the news for something. See if you can find out what. The religion wasn’t Islam though so you probably didn’t make any connection on that occasion.

  18. Point 1. Touche

    Point 2. When the majority of ‘moderate’ Muslims make their feelings known and condemn terrorism unreservedly..maybe I would make an effort towards understanding Muslims,their religion and Sharia law. Although being of the female persuasion it would not be in my best interests. I really cannot understand why the person who was raped receives a harsher sentence than the rapist. (See recent story from that wonderful country Saudia Arabia).

    Point 3. Andrew Yates..researched the story. She was a lunatic an evil lunatic. Ok you say who is to say ‘Daddy’ in the hideous case we are reviewing was not mad. He must have been but mutterings have been towards ‘honour killing’. Will wait until final investigation of the case before castigating him further. My initial comments re child killers stand.

  19. There are plenty of known and publicised honour killings in this country and thousands worldwide. Frank would neatly sidestep them all in his love affair with Islam. Must be something to do with its handy technique of dealing with women, something im sure Frank secretly loves. Remain a ‘bigot’ in your attitude towards the ROP Maggie. With, as you have noted women being hung and whipped for rape, stoned for adultery, slaughtered in front of their families for going out with someone (in the UK), families burned to point score (again in the UK), you are right to express a concern and ne suspicious. Being blind to a very clear possibility in this case, in a rush to paint two women as bigots for expressing a concern, I half wonder if Frank isnt something of a mysoginist. Jihadists are quick to point to issues within western (judeo christian) civilisation to feign equivalence. I notice Frank does the same.

  20. Maggie,

    "When the majority of ‘moderate’ Muslims make their feelings known and condemn terrorism unreservedly..maybe I would make an effort towards understanding Muslims,their religion and Sharia law."

    Ah, so they’re asking for it, huh? Sounds familiar. Besides, asking you not to jump to conclusions and tar others with the same brush is not the same as asking you to understand.

    "Although being of the female persuasion it would not be in my best interests"

    Unlike "Christian" countries, right? The same countries which did not grant women the vote until modern times. The same countries which brought you the magdalene laundries and did not make rape within marriage illegal until relatively recently.

    And so I see that between the three of you, you really do have nothing to link Islam to this then. Small wonder you choose instead to change the subject and attack anyone who draws attention to the bigotry involved.