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THE SPOILS OF WAR

By Pete Moore On December 13th, 2012

Remember the Kosovo War? That was when NATO joined with Kosovan terrorists to cleanse the place of Serbs and carve out a gangster state. The architects of that jolly little episode are back.

Madeleine Albright is in there, putting together a billion-dollar telecoms deal. General Wesley Clark, who then commanded the war, is heavily invested in minerals. Mark Tavlarides, then director of the Clinton’s National Security Agency, is getting himself a slice of the pie, lobbying for multi-billion dollar engineering contracts and fixing up a $50,000-per-month sinecure from the Kosovan government to advise it on ties to Washington DC. No doubt it’s paid out of the $85million that Washington gave the Kosovan government this year. They’re just the headline deals.

Says the New York Times: “So many former American officials have returned to Kosovo for business — in coal and telecommunications, or for lobbying and other lucrative government contracts — that it is hard to keep them from colliding.”

“War is a racket”, said General Smedley Butler. Sounds like he knew what he was talking about.

h/t to Daniel McAdams. Gen. Butler’s essential essay can be downloaded for free here.

38 Responses to “THE SPOILS OF WAR”

  1. And the Brits and Yanks have been involved in more wars than anyone else in history.

  2. No – the Brits and the Yanks have been inveigled into war by the banking cartel using our soldiers a fodder and the armed forces as their private enforcement agencies.

  3. In your view, Pete, does self-defense ever justify going to war?

  4. Sigh. Before I get to the valid point (which is the ethically questionable business dealings of former officials) let me address the earlier point.

    There intervention in Kosovo was necessary from a humanitarian nature as the Serbs were acting like complete barbarians. It was a difficult mission and undertaken reluctantly based on those dangers, but ultimately became a moral necessity. It isn’t excusable to pretend otherwise.

    As for the cashing in on deals by former administration officials, while not illegal it certainly doesn’t pass the smell test.

  5. Patty –

    Of course, but there’s no other justifiable reason, and very few wars are waged in genuine self-defence.

  6. War = Money

    The Promoters of War

    Gutle Schnapper, wife of Mayer Amschel Rothschild, was once quoted as saying– “If my sons did not want war, there would be none” (“The Serial Killers of Lincoln, JFK, RFK & MLK,” p. 12). These words from Gutle have much meaning in the vein of Genesis 27:40 (in that the children of certain Old Testament people make money and their living from war).

  7. A. Hobson wrote: “No Great War could be undertaken by any European State…if the house of Rothschild and its connections set their face against it”

  8. It does not come close to passing the smell test.

    In a just world, Wesley Clark and Madeleine Albright would be arrested.

    Can you possibly imagine General Eisenhower doing this?

  9. Pete Moore

    Next you’ll be accusing Cheney’s company of profiteering in Iraq, and Dubwa’s oil buddies as well.

  10. Mahons

    I agree with your 7.17. A good rule of thumb is to always be on the opposite side to the Russians, because they will always be on the side of the despots and butchers, eg. Iraq.

  11. I think that Cheney is an honorable man. Twice as honorable as any Texas congressman.

    Cheney sees the world the way it is, not the way that we’d like it to be.

  12. The Russians and Chinese aren’t immoral but they are entirely amoral as respects external affairs.

    That’s not a compliment.

  13. I meant to say Syria at 8.47. Iraq is so last decade!

  14. Peter –

    “A good rule of thumb is to always be on the opposite side to the Russians, because they will always be on the side of the despots and butchers, eg. Iraq.”

    The butchers and despots? Or their butchers and despots?

    Who do you think H. Clinton has arrayed against Assad in Syria – boy scouts and the Salvation Army? JS Mill fans? A force of classical liberals? Sure, the Assad regime is despotic and has no legitimacy, but so goes the same for whatever bunch the global Power Elite replaces it with.

  15. Oh, so Hillary has organized the Syrian opposition

    The Syrians don;t think so.

    Many have criticized the West for not being involved

  16. There probably aren’t any good options for Syria, except maybe some kind of stalemate.

  17. //A good rule of thumb is to always be on the opposite side to the Russians, because they will always be on the side of the despots and butchers//

    I sincerely hope you are being sarcastic, Peter. (see below)

    Bad timing, Pete.

    Just yesterday the International Court sentenced one of the ring-leaders of the massacre in Srebrenica to life imprisonment.
    A bit of perspective: you will have heard of the famous Nazi massacres in Lidice in Czechoslovakia and Oradour-sur-Glane in France – both justifiably icons of barbarity and cruelty. Yet the two of these World War II massacres together didn’t account for as much as one seventh of the number murdered in Srebrenica, which was in our time, in a generation that had supposedly learned from the past, and right in front of the evening viewing eyes of everybody in Europe. What’s more, in marked contrast to Lidice etc, this was in a situation where we – European countries – could easily have intervened and stopped the massacres immediately. But we didn’t, and they continued for years. Any attempts to intervene were stopped by the UK and France in particular, who told the most shameful lies about the victims and indulged in propaganda that was almost as sickening as the massacres themselves.

    This is applied foreign policy the way you’d like to have it. No self-defence, so look away please.

    Fortunately the people of the US weren’t so easily kept quiet, and when their anger grew too loud, their leaders – which included several of the people you mention in this post – to their eternal credit acted and stopped the mass murder. As everyone except the propagandists had predicted, it took only a few days of stern intervention to send the Serbs running for the peace table.

    It was a classic example of military intervention to stop war, and it can serve as a model for everyone.

  18. Yes Phantom.

    In fact H. Clinton Antichrist is in Morocco as we type, organising the Syrian opposition – again. In fact she’s been devoting herself more to Syria’s future this last year than to anything else.

    Remember the golden rule: when a Clinton walks in the room, someone’s about to die.

  19. There are no good options in Syria.

    I fear major massacres if the opposition wins. And protracted horror if they do not win.

  20. Noel Cunningham –

    Srebrenica’s in Bosnia, not Kosovo.

  21. Noel

    What sarcasm? Russia backed the butchers of Srebrinica, their faithful Serb clients.

  22. Srebrenica is the usual myth to justify US military intervention in an area which is of interest to the corporations, in this case, mining;

    http://www.srebrenica-report.com/numbers.htm

    A lack of evidence Hard evidence of massacres was (and still is) in very short supply. Despite spending five days at the Tuzla airport refugee camp, where well over 20,000 Srebrenica survivors were gathered, the UN chief investigator into human rights abuses could find no eyewitnesses to atrocities:

    The Daily Telegraph Monday 24 July 1995 “Serb Atrocities In Srebrenica Are Unproved – By Tim Butcher in Tuzla

    After five days of interviews the United Nations chief investigator into alleged human rights abuses during the fall of Srebrenica has not found any first‑hand witnesses of atrocities…

    (UN High Commissioner for Human Rights) Mr Henry Wieland said yesterday “.. we have not found anyone who saw with their own eyes an atrocity taking place. ” …Mr Wieland travelled to Tuzla, the Bosnian city where almost all of the Srebrenica refugees were taken, with a team of investigators to gather evidence of human rights abuses…He said his team had spoken to scores of Muslims at the main refugee camp at Tuzla airfield and at other collective centres but no first‑hand witnesses had been found…”

    The Dutch were also unable to find any eyewitnesses. Dr Dick Schoonoord of the Nederlands Instituut voor Oorlogsdoumentatie (NIOD) confirmed at the beginning of 2005:

    “It has been impossible during our investigations in Bosnia to find any people who witnessed the mass murder or would talk about the fate of the missing men.”

  23. It’s an interesting rabbit-hole is Bosnia and the Yugoslav War Crimes Tribunal at The Hague. The testimony of General Morillon is quite revealing of the reality, and can be read in the link below:

    http://www.srebrenica-project.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1:2009-01-07-18-16-23&catid=3:2009-01-06-17-56-50&Itemid=4

    The objective of the Bosnian Muslim faction was to induce US military intervention on the Muslim side. Pursuant to this policy, the Bosnian Muslim faction engaged in propaganda, staged massacres, killed Bosnian Muslim civilians to garner sympathy, and used civilian hostages or shields to further its propaganda of victimization. Morillon, Lewis MacKenzie, Sir Michael Rose, and other UN officials acknowledged this objective. Western media reporting during the civil war in Bosnia had one single goal, to get the US to fight on the side of the Bosnian Muslim faction. The only way this could be done was to present the civil war as a “genocide”. This is why the US government and the corporate media relied on genocide/Holocaust propaganda in Bosnia. Only a genocide propaganda motif would do the trick. This is why the Bosnian civil war became associated with the Holocaust. It was a US propaganda stunt, it was part of the US inforwar strategy. In Iraq, it was the nonexistent and phony Weapons of Mass Destruction. In Bosnia, it was the nonexistent and phony genocide or Holocaust propaganda. In both instances, this propaganda was orchestrated, planned, and coordinated by the US government and the corporate media.

    During the civil war, the Bosnian Muslim faction killed its own civilians to implicate the Bosnian Serb forces and garner propaganda points. Milosevic quoted a UN document of February 6, 1994 that blamed the Bosnian Muslims forces for attacking Muslim civilians: “UNPROFOR is almost hundred per cent sure that the Bosniaks on at least two occasions during the past 18 months have been the origin of shelling that caused casualties in Sarajevo.” United Nations officials and senior Western military officers” held the Muslims responsible for the so-called Bread Line Massacre on Vasa Miskin Street. In Kosevo Hospital in Sarajevo, Muslims fired mortars from the hospital to provoke a Serbian reply. Morillon’s statement read as follows: “We saw a mortar there ready to provoke a reaction from the Serbs. They did that all the time. I know that some UN observers saw that mortar at Kosevo.”

    But how are Bosnian Serbs to react when a Bosnian Muslim magazine, Novi Vox, in an October, 1991 issue, announces that Bosnian Muslims have prepared a new Nazi SS Division, Handzar, (“Spremna Handzar Divizija”), alluding to the World War II 13th Waffen Gebirgs Division der SS “Handzar/Handschar”, which was formed by Heinrich Himmler to fight Serbian guerrillas in Bosnia? Was this merely an isolated publication with no relevance? Was the Bosnian Muslim Nazi SS Division Handzar not relevant to Bosnian Serb fears and concerns? In a news report from Fojnica on December 29, 1993, a news dispatch that sneaked through the US government and media censorship, London Daily Telegraph correspondent Robert Fox showed that, indeed, the Bosnian Muslim leadership had formed a new Handzar Division, consisting of 6,000 troops.

  24. Is it not a byproduct of mass murder that its hard to find eye witnesses. You are either dead, guilty or complicit.

  25. Bodies are useful too – no matter how hard the victims groups try, there just ain’t thousands dead in Srebrinica:

    http://www.srebrenica-project.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=91:the-popovi-judgment-legally-questionable-morally-bankrupt&catid=12:2009-01-25-02-01-02

    – Significantly, in the important Krstić case, the first in which an ICTY chamber made intimations of genocide with reference to Srebrenica, the court had only about 1,800 autopsy „cases“ to work with.[1] That, of course, was not an impediment to the finding of the Krstić chamber that “7,000 to 8,000” Bosnian Moslem males were executed in Srebrenica, [2] but considerable subterfuges were required to cover the striking numerical difference.

    Dr Simic found a total of 1,919 right and 1,923 left femur bones. Thus, with a very high degree of reliability it was established that in total there were under 2,000 individuals in all the Srebrenica mass graves exhumed by the prosecution. The patterns of injury were in some cases consistent with combat death, and in others with possible execution. –

  26. LOL

    There intervention in Kosovo was necessary from a humanitarian nature as the Serbs were acting like complete barbarians. It was a difficult mission and undertaken reluctantly based on those dangers, but ultimately became a moral necessity. It isn’t excusable to pretend otherwise.

    TRANSLATION: It was Democrat war without a National Interest therefore it’s OK….

  27. NATO had no right whatsoever to interfere in Serbia.
    Serbia had every right to put down an armed terrorist uprising by ethnic Albanians in the Kosovan region.

    Bosniak militia hid amongst the civilian population in Srbrenica. A tactic that we have now seen used again and again by the likes of Hamas and tons of arms and ammunition were found in Srbrenica. Now what would those poor, innocent non combatants want with all that firepower?

  28. JM, Troll, Others

    Is a country ever justified in taking military action to prevent persecution, mass murder / genocide in another land?

    If Hitler’s Germany had never attacked or even threatened another country but has ” only ” started to massacre all the Jews within its borders,would outside nations have been justified in intervening?

  29. @Phantom..

    Yes. Absolutely.

    There was no persecution, mass murder or genocide going on in the Kosovan Region. The aggression and bloodshed came from the KLA.

    The Civil Wars in Bosnia were a different matter. But as Alan quite correctly points out aspects of the so called Srbrenica ‘massacre’ are myths.

  30. Thus, with a very high degree of reliability it was established that in total there were under 2,000 individuals in all the Srebrenica mass graves exhumed by the prosecution.

    Bullshit.

    http://www.ic-mp.org/press-releases/613-srebrenica-victims-to-be-buried-at-a-memorial-ceremony-in-potocari613-srebrenickih-zrtava-bice-ukopane-u-memorijalnom-centru-potocari/#more-1397

    By analyzing DNA profiles extracted from bone samples of exhumed mortal remains and matching them to the DNA profiles obtained from blood samples donated by relatives of the missing, the International Commission on Missing Persons (ICMP) has so far revealed the identity of 6,598 persons missing from the July 1995 fall of Srebrenica.

  31. The only time Allan lies is when he moves his lips

  32. Fews – bodies exhumed from where, and who were they? I could exhume a body, any body, and match DNA to it without any conclusion. This is Clinton’s attempt to cover his murderous tracks and yet, despite all these efforts, the Tribunal at The Hague still only has less than 2000 bodies from around the Srebrenica area:

    http://de-construct.net/e-zine/?p=6082

    – “In the West, the popular mythology about 7,000-8,000 Muslim men being executed in Srebrenica in 1995 is still alive and well, but independent research shows some 2,000 Bosnian Muslim fighters were killed in battle for Srebrenica and that is the number of bodies Hague investigators were able to find”, said Swiss researcher Alexander Dorin, who has been investigating Srebrenica events for the past 14 years.

    In his latest book titled “Srebrenica — The History of Salon Racism” (Srebrenica — die Geschichte eines salonfahigen Rassismus) published this month in Berlin, Dorin focuses on manipulations with the number of Muslims who lost their lives in Srebrenica.

    In addition, at least 1,000 of the alleged 1995 “Srebrenica massacre victims” have been dead long before or after Bosnian Serb Army took the town over. –

    Phantom – why do you have to call someone who disputes one of your totems a liar? We’ve been here before and it’s just rather distasteful.

  33. //Bullshit.//

    Indeed it is. Allan’s comments here are examples of the disgusting lies I mentioned earlier.

    I mean, who else can believe that the Bosniaks started the mass murder of their own people in early 1992 with the aim of getting the US to intervene, and continued massacring them through that year, then the next year, then the next year, until – at last success – the US intervened in the latter part of 1995?

  34. Phantom – why do you have to call someone who disputes one of your totems a liar? We’ve been here before and it’s just rather distasteful.

    Some people just can’t handle the truth, it’s far easier to shoot the messenger.

    The State just love people like Phantom, no wonder they gey away with so much shit 😉

  35. Ooops.

    no wonder they get away with so much shit 😉

  36. Phantom, on December 14th, 2012 at 2:37 AM Said:

    JM, Troll, Others

    Is a country ever justified in taking military action to prevent persecution, mass murder / genocide in another land?

    If Hitler’s Germany had never attacked or even threatened another country but has ” only ” started to massacre all the Jews within its borders,would outside nations have been justified in intervening?

    Of course they are, the amusement is that your ilk find that those are the only “Just” wars. If a nation is providing Sanctuary and support to people that are killing Americans and Jews you have no problem letting them continue to do so, and then condemning the US if we intervene on behalf of American lives.

  37. What now the war’s over your saying ‘The Carpetbaggers’ are moving in?

    Well y’all know thats never happened before has it.

    BTW is water still wet, the Pope Catholic and do Ursine’s still defecate amongst large groupings of trees?

  38. Question:

    I mean, who else can believe that the Bosniaks started the mass murder of their own people in early 1992 with the aim of getting the US to intervene….

    Answer:

    Milosevic quoted a UN document of February 6, 1994 that blamed the Bosnian Muslims forces for attacking Muslim civilians:

    “UNPROFOR is almost hundred per cent sure that the Bosniaks on at least two occasions during the past 18 months have been the origin of shelling that caused casualties in Sarajevo.”

    United Nations officials and senior Western military officers” held the Muslims responsible for the so-called Bread Line Massacre on Vasa Miskin Street. In Kosevo Hospital in Sarajevo, Muslims fired mortars from the hospital to provoke a Serbian reply. Morillon’s statement read as follows:

    “We saw a mortar there ready to provoke a reaction from the Serbs. They did that all the time. I know that some UN observers saw that mortar at Kosevo.”

    – Philippe Morillon was born on October 24, 1935 in Casablanca, Morocco, the son of a French military officer who died in World War II. He graduated from the Saint-Cyr military academy in France in 1956. From 1954-1995 he was an officer in the French Army. In the 1980s, he had been the president of the Yugoslavian-French commission for arms procurement. His first military command had been in Algeria during the secessionist/separatist war that erupted there in the mid-1950s. Morillon along with other French officers fought to keep Algeria a part of France and to prevent secession. In 1961, French president Charles de Gaulle ordered the French army to abandon Algeria and to withdraw to France proper. To Morillon, the order was “an act of treason”. Thousands of pro-French Algerians were killed or fled after the French withdrawal. For Morillon and other French officers, “to them Algeria was France”, an integral part of France. Morillon joined a group of officers who rebelled against the de Gaulle pullout order. Ironically, Morillon at that time was in a similar position to that of the Bosnian Serbs, who also opposed the secession of Bosnia-Hercegovina and the creation of a Muslim-dominated state. These senior French rebel officers were subsequently purged. Morillon was a middle level officer so he was spared, becoming a four star general. On July 20, 1999, he was elected to the EU European parliament. During the Bosnian civil war, he was the UN commander there in 1992 and 1993, insisting on UN neutrality in Bosnia. His policy of neutrality made him unpopular with the Bosnian Muslim faction. Morillon intervened in Srebrenica to prevent the military defeat of Naser Oric and the fall of Srebrenica in 1993. Morillon established Srebrenica as a “safe haven” but was not able to demilitarize the area. Naser Oric was able to deploy the Bosnian Muslim 28th Infantry Division in Srebrenica after it became a safe area or haven. –

    A “disgusting lie” indeed!