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THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS…

By David Vance On September 6th, 2013

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I was intrigued to read the thoughts of Tony Blair on the Syrian situation;

Protracted difficulties following the invasion of Iraq made the UK “hesitant” to intervene in Syria, former Prime Minister Tony Blair has said. In a BBC interview, Mr Blair played down the influence of the failure to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq on the UK Parliament’s decision to block military action in Syria. Iraq had shown that interventions can be “very difficult”, he conceded. But Syria, left unchecked, could become a potent source of extremists, he said.

I think there is little doubt that post-Iraq, the UK public has lost the collective will to engage in foreign wars. Blair carries some considerable degree of culpability for this breakdown in the public psyche since it was his spinning back in the lead up to Iraq that did no favours at all to what was – (in my view then and now) – a righteous cause (Saddam needed toppled). However it is the final statement from Blair that leaves me stunned.

” Syria, left unchecked, could become a potent source of extremists..”

COULD? The “rebels” that Blair, Obama, Kerry, Cameron, Hague and Hollande seek to help ARE extremists! There is a strong Al Queda element to those seeking to overthrow Assad. It doesn’t come anymore extreme than that. I just do not understand what Blair is saying.  Here are the “moderates” at play in Syria…

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I have said it before and I will say it again, we have no dog in this fight, let Allah decide!

24 Responses to “THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS…”

  1. Protracted difficulties following the invasion of Iraq made the UK “hesitant” to intervene in Syria, former Prime Minister Tony Blair has said

    ‘Protracted difficulties’, well if that by anyway means ‘total and utter outragous disgraceful deceit and lies … then for once Blair is right.

    The man is a disgrace.

  2. Bashar al-Assad is the moderate. He has lived in London, and practised as a qualified ophthalmologist, speaks excellent English, is very much a family man and his regime offers full protection for religious minorities especially Christians. The longer this ‘insurgency’ which is created by an unholy alliance of the western Establishment (US, UK, France, Israel, Saudi Arabia) continues, the more one looks at Assad and finds more agreeable in him than in the wretches who front the ‘west’.

  3. Donald Rumsfeld also said in an interview yesterday that it was the Iraq war and its aftermath that has made the West so doveish today.

    It was also the horror of WW1 and its aftermath that made the West so doveish in the 1930’s.
    Worth a thought.

  4. They just don’t get it do they? – our delightfully motley crew of ego driven self-publicist politicians of ‘the West’.

    They just cannot grasp that they have lost, not only the plot, but the trust, faith and goodwill of the general populace. Too many lies, too much obfuscation, and definitely too much self-interest.

    Reading and listening to so much news on one topic, i.e. Syria, and the repeated insistence that they have evidence of ‘gas’ being used, and yet we still have not seen a shred of believable evidence that Assad is the culprit.

    Could it be that American intelligence isn’t quite what it is made out to be? Or maybe it is the insurgents using the gas, and to reveal that fact would be seen, by them, as a ‘betrayal’.

    The pitiful excuse that all this is in America’s ‘self-defense’, so often repeated because every other lie has failed to convince even the most simple minded of voters of the need for yet another military excursion.

    I use the word ‘excursion’, because the litany of countries invaded on one spurious pretext or another, is begining to read like a travel agents brochure.

    What a wonderful example of modern democracy, where a majority of the population just don’t, wont, or cannot believe their own elected politicians, and even worse, seem more prepared to believe the words of the opposition leadership such as Putin and Assad. – What a sad state of affairs for ‘western democracy’!

    That the man mentioned in the ‘header’ has much responsibility for the public’s general disbelief comes as no surprise.

    As the UN Special Envoy to the ME he is still making excuses for the Iraq debacle, and makes little or no mention of the current dispute. Perhaps as advisor to the government of Mongolia he feels it is ‘not in his remit’…

  5. I use the word ‘excursion’, because the litany of countries invaded on one spurious pretext or another, is begining to read like a travel agents brochure

    9/11

  6. “Syria, left unchecked, could become a potent source of extremists..”

    Yeah, it rather leaps off the page. Yeah, Assad is the moderate compared to the other lot.

    Remember that Blair is paid alot of money by JP Morgan and oil firms with interests in Iraq. Remember also that business is business.

  7. What a sad state of affairs for ‘western democracy’!

    “Back me or I’ll sack you: Furious Cameron fires policy adviser Jesse Norman for not supporting military action in Syria”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2411064/David-Cameron-fires-Jesse-Norman-Number-10-policy-board-failing-Syria-vote.html#ixzz2e6XmS2P0

    Democracy, if democracy actually ever changed anything, they would simply ban it.

  8. Remember that Blair is paid alot of money by JP Morgan and oil firms with interests in Iraq. Remember also that business is business.

    true, very true .. but did you work that out with information from some ‘conspiracy kooks’ website?

    No, you didn’t. it’s just a very small part of a much larger jigsaw puzzle.

  9. I love listening to the pro-war camp allude to their evidence. I was listening to Blair this morning on the way to work and he said the main difference between iraq WMD and Syria is that in Syria the evidence is clear because there are bodies. He did not dwell much on “whodunnit”, just simply that it did happen. The only aspect that nobody can deny.

    Its genius really as the casual listener will not pickup the nuance of such language.

  10. A comment from the US media:-

    “Wednesday, John Kerry told the Senate not to worry about the cost of an American war on Syria.

    The Saudis and Gulf Arabs, cash-fat on the $110-a-barrel oil they sell U.S. consumers, will pick up the tab for the Tomahawk missiles.

    Has it come to this – U.S. soldiers, sailors, Marines and airmen as the mercenaries of sheikhs, sultans and emirs, Hessians of the New World Order, hired out to do the big-time killing for Saudi and Sunni royals?”

    Is it possible that the signs of that ‘hidden agenda’ I have occasionaly mentioned, and been criticised for making, – are beginning to show? – is it a case of what Blair did yesterday, Obama is doing today?

  11. Is it possible that the signs of that ‘hidden agenda’ I have occasionaly mentioned, and been criticised for making, – are beginning to show? – is it a case of what Blair did yesterday, Obama is doing today?

    ‘Is it possible’? it’s pretty bloody onvious to anyone with an IQ slightly above room tempreture, it’s been going on for years.

    9/11 was the NWO boldest move to date.

    Yet still, the sheeple and drones either can’t see it, or don’t want to see it.

  12. Harri

    What are your primary sources of news?

  13. The MSM ?

    And the Guvmint 😉

    Anywhere Phantom, you don’t manage to bother with, your research is about as usefull as your knoweledge outside anything your guvmint masters and leaders tell you .. and that sucks.

  14. Don’t get all cranky pie on us

    Where do you primarily get your news from?

    MSM is a silly Palinite term. Be an adult.

  15. Is it possible that the signs of that ‘hidden agenda’ I have occasionaly mentioned, and been criticised for making, – are beginning to show?

    Huh? Has Ernests account been hijacked?

  16. Phantom: Palin does not use “MSM” – she uses “lame stream media” – if you’re going to pose as an expert on everything American at least try for occasional accuracy.

  17. “If [the media] convince enough voters that that is negative campaigning, for me to call Barack Obama out on his associations then I don’t know what the future of our country would be in terms of First Amendment rights and our ability to ask questions without fear of attacks by the mainstream media.” –Sarah Palin, getting First Amendment rights backwards while suggesting that criticism of her is unconstitutional, radio interview with WMAL-AM, Oct. 31, 2008

    From the excellent accumulated wisdom of President Palin, to be found below.

    She’s used the term main stream media many times.

    http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/sarahpalin/a/palinisms_2.htm

  18. With the exception of her entertainment value can’t we just place former governor Palin on the pile of other former governors from that State like Wally Hickel and Frank Murkowski and get on with our lives?

  19. Allan posted:

    Bashar al-Assad is the moderate. He has lived in London…

    Hitler, Lenin and Stalin all lived in Vienna pre-1914. But it didn’t prevent them slaughtering tens of millions.

    Presumably you are with Putin in rejecting even the possibility that the nerve gas attack came from the Assad regime?

  20. You seem to have truncated the quote somewhat, Peter, though I can’t think why. Anyway, I’ll put it here for clarification:

    He has lived in London, and practised as a qualified ophthalmologist, speaks excellent English, is very much a family man and his regime offers full protection for religious minorities especially Christians.

    I’m glad that you didn’t find anything to dispute about the content of the comment.

  21. Oh – and no, I don’t reject the possibility that Assad gassed his own people in their and his capital city, but I accept the probability that it was a false flag carried out by a party with something to gain. Here’s a reminder from 1998 that another country nearby has chemical weapons and has actually used them:

    http://www.nytimes.com/1998/10/02/world/nerve-gas

    An El Al cargo plane that crashed in Amsterdam six years ago was carrying a chemical that can be used in the manufacture of the deadly nerve gas Sarin, a spokesman for the Israeli national airline acknowledged today.

  22. //Hitler, Lenin and Stalin all lived in Vienna pre-1914//

    Actually, only Hitler did. Stalin was in exile in Siberia and Lenin in exile in Zurich, CH.

    But a better example for you is Pol Pot, who lived many years in Paris, where he was feted by French communists.
    At that time too Ho Chi Minh was living in New York. During the Great War he lived in London and later also went to live in Paris.

  23. In 1913, Hitler, Stalin, Trotsky and Tito all lived in Vienna.

    In counterpoint, so did Ludwig von Mises.

  24. All the troublemakers!