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all the news they want to hear

By ATWadmin On January 5th, 2007

Are these the headlines you want to read?

Olympic costs rise to £8.0 billion!

Immunise all of Africa’s children for only £0.95 billion.

Jamie Bulger killers given immunity, cash, new houses and new lives for only £1.2 million.

£22 billion more for overstretched (for translation refer to Union Rule Book) Health Service.

European Union agrees new cost structure for Accelerator; agrees as in "whatever it costs".

Iraq infrastructure cost estimates rise to a total of £55 billion.

That’s a few items from the enormous list which Your Government has spent, or pledged to spend, from your taxes! Remember, this is the Government which was returned for the THIRD time in the recent General Election, with the Chancellor’s watch word of ‘Prudence’ still echoing around Whitehall!

carrier's end.jpg


So you won’t mind when this picture appears, as the Royal Navy signs off from a four hundred year history of proud service to the Crown and the country, and ends it’s days as a Fisheries Protection service! Ending because of the Treasury demands for cuts in Defence Budget! For all intents and purposes, this aircraft-carrier will never see service again!


land rover.jpgSo you don’t really wince when you see the picture of a blasted unarmoured ‘Snatch’ Land Rover as it is blazes away in the dust of Iraq! In service because the motto of the Defence Minister is "cost effective!"





No. you shouldn’t mind, because that’s the choices made by the Labour Government, whom you voted for!



33 Responses to “all the news they want to hear”

  1. Don’t blame me. I didn’t vote for them.

    One correspondent of mine put it well when he said "In ten years, we’ve gone from having one of the World’s most stable democracies to resembling a South American republic."

  2. Well Gordon has to find the money somewhere to pay for the army of 500,000 Labour voters bought by creating silly non jobs in the civil service and the flashy headline grabbing stunts and the agencies of social engineering and control.

    Stuff like personally useful public services and non-PC items such as defence (with all those nasty associations of colonionalism that the Guardian and BBC keep bleating on about) have to be put on the back burner.

    On a seperate tack…did anyone else here the BBC type on Today this morning introducing an ETA apologist as someone who understood why the Madrid bomb HAD to happen.

  3. Compare (while you can) and contrast…


    Seriously though, there is a case to be made that Britain no longer requires armed forces.

    Looking ahead and with the one assumption that the UK will no longer follow along with any US military action anywhere, what need of an UK military?

    Even a role as a Fisheries Protection arm is debatable really.

    One further assumption if I may. Assuming the UK retains any nuclear missile subs at all then surely even the mighty Icelanders would exercise caution when they see the only available UK response to cod depradations being a jump from verbal animosities to a nuclear strike on Reykjavik?

    Just keep the current boomers, don’t upgrade of course because that’ll cost real money and you’re good agaimst almost all enemies…current or future. 🙂

    Here’s a little song you can sing at the last decommissioning cermony. I’m not sure it’s best fitted to being sung as a dirge but what the heck, best I could find at short notice and I know the blog likes tunes from a certain era…


    From a perspective on the other side of the Special Relationship…best of British luck.

  4. P.S.

    This story is of course quite unimportant.

    As of 1306 GMT today, there is no reference at all on the BBC’s news-site.

    Be told! 🙂

  5. Did any of the contributors to this site vote for these incompetents? Will someone confess?

  6. ‘The end of the Cold War should have released Britain to pursue its more usual vocation as an island nation with interests in every continent.’

    Ahem *clears throat* – Sorry to be the one to point this out, but the sun set on the British Empire decades ago. Get over it.

  7. AllanA.

    Did any of the contributors to this site vote for these incompetents?

    Doubt it!

    The problem is, of course, the curse of democracy!

    The electorate were warned of the consequences of voting for ‘New’ or even ‘Old’ Labour, and they were swept to power regardless, possibly because the British had become disenchanted with a Tory government who supervised the ‘Black Wednesday’ debacle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Wednesday, when they demonstrated that they had lost control of the economy!

    The electorate is, unfortunately by my standards, in love with a bunch which promises and delivers on the modern equivalent of ‘bread and circuses’ and it will not be until we have an Opposition with some teeth, and a ‘listening’ electorate will we see any change!

  8. Unfortunately, once someone is over the age of 18 they can vote. They need have no knowledge of domestic nor international politics.

    We need a licence for a dog – why not some kind of training and licence for voters? You shouldn’t be allowed to vote if you are an idiot. Show some common sense, and some knowledge of the world and how it works, then you can vote.

    I never voted for this lot either, by the way – but I think everyone I know did.

  9. Fiona,

    You’ve got it about right there!

    There is a term for what we have in Britain, it’s a title which describes the electorate to a tee, and that is ‘The Great Unwashed’, and if their needs are assuaged by a combination of ‘Corrie’, ‘Ye Eastenders’ and ‘X-factor’ (whatever that is) they will not disturb the status quo!

  10. Mike,
    Good to see you make the case for a re-union with the Republic; it makes our job easier.

  11. isnt the electorial boundries in great britian of some controversy ? in regards to the re-election of labour that is………

  12. Juan, Labour benefits from the way the boundaries are drawn in a number of ways.

    1. Wales, largely Labour voting, has about 6 more constituencies than is justified in terms of its population.

    2. As people get richer, they tend to move from poorer (Labour-inclined) areas to richer (Conservtive-inclined) areas. Thus Conservative constituencies tend to have more voters than Labour ones, meaning it takes fewer votes to elect a Labour MP than a Conservative one.

    This is rectified every ten to fifteen years, when the boundary commission redraws constituency boundaries, but boundary changes lag behind population shifts.

    3. Turnout is usually lower in Labour seats than Conservative ones, again meaning that fewer votes are needed to elect a Labour MP.

  13. Jeff, Thanks for the link to our (U.S.) Navy. The contrast is striking.

  14. Sean,
    Labour has virtually all the cities; and don’t forget the Scottish MP’s.
    I do wonder sometimes if the prescence of so many scots in the cabinet, ( I can think of 4 off the top of my head ) are sweetners to keep the oul’ union creaking along..

  15. Scotland is not overrepresented now. Its representation was cut from 72 to 59 seats.

  16. Charles

    Welcome. The site is actually a little out of date. The Nimitz carriers GHW Bush and Ronald Reagan are, I think, now respectively fitting out and deployed.

    It’s a sentimental shame really. As an ex-Brit I’ll rather miss the Royal Navy but economically and politically it makes sense for the UK to rely on the USN for at least defence of the sea lanes.

    There is, after all, such a thing as a free lunch.

    If it ever drops in the pot, we wouldn’t leave them in the lurch of course….?:)

    "cept the bozos at the Beeb naturally.

  17. Just in:
    Warning over Scots independence

    Independence for Scotland would spell the death knell for the UK by putting a question mark over the future of Wales and Northern Ireland, the Lord Chancellor has said.

    Lord Falconer warned the very future of the UK was at stake in the current debate about the Union.

    "If Scotland went, then I think the relationship with Wales and Northern Ireland would then be in doubt, it seems to me,"

    and ATW regularly engages in Brit-bashing… hmmmn is a united ireland closer than ever?

    you’d better get a pact going with the Ulster-Scots

    will this boost UKIP ?

  18. Sean

    Happy New Year to you and yours! :o)

  19. Thanks, Aileen, and the same to you.

  20. BTW, if you’ve not already been notified, Aileen, the Bigots’ Banquet is on 24th January. I don’t know yet if I can make it.

  21. Sean

    I’ll tackle Simon on Tuesday. I may have been blacklisted after last year. Hopefully I will not get the months mixed up this time. Hope to see you and your other half there :o)

  22. I voted labour time before last. I voted SNP last time, and i’ll vote for them again next time. I couldn’t vote for labour again after these invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq.

  23. Hey what’s this ‘Bigots banquet’ why is Aileen blacklisted – did she do something too rude last year ? and why am I not invited – Am I not bigoted enough ? Oh and Aileen, who is Simon, and why am I being so nosey and asking too many questions ? 😉

  24. The bigots Banquet is the annual dinner of a London based ABOD. I was all set to go in February but when I checked the date it had already been held in January. Personnal organisation not my strength. Simon is an ABOD.

  25. My country is now entering a two year period of the same type of political insanity

  26. I’ll tell you what I think about people having the vote. If your IQ is below 120 (yes 120!) and you are younger than 25 you don’t get a vote. Very simple. Unfair? Yes it is. Sensible? You bet! At least 80% of people are easily led simpletons.

  27. SBK

    I’ve often had the thought about using the type of logic comprehession test where you are given an article followed by a set of statements amd you have say whether the statement can be logically duduced from the article, wheter it is disproved by the article and whether it can neither be deduced or disproved. This should be an indicator of whether or not you can properly assess the manifestos of the parties and make an informed and intelligent choice.

  28. I’ll make it even simpler You must be 21 and have a job to vote. No job no vote. If you are on public assistance of anykind no vote.

  29. Hi, Troll,

    I think your suggestion used to be the law in Northern Ireland, or maybe you just got extra votes if you owned property. Something like that.

    BTW, Mike C, "The problem is, of course, the curse of democracy!" is priceless. I might have to appropriate it for my own blog. It is the right answer in all circumstances.

  30. Democracy is no more than mob rule, suitable for tribal and clan style communities, where honesty and integrity can easily be checked, but totally inadequate for the modern nation style countries.

    Just when the virtues of honesty and integrity are most needed, they are nowhere to be found.

    Some thing better is needed, but what? overbearing Statism is not a valid option. Until an alternative shows, perhaps a modified version of democracy, where some sort of educational, or residential qualification is needed.

    That would be yet another ‘right wing’ idea that NuLab might steal, but would be directly in contradiction of their socialist roots, – but why would they care, they seem to have done an about turn on most of their other founding principles.

    For sure, no one on ‘welfare’ should be allowed to vote, after all, can they not be considered as ‘bought and paid for’, and thus have an extra vested interest in maintaining the staus quo?

  31. Ernest Young,
    I agree with you on democracy in the modern context being unsuitable because it assumes that those fittest to win votes are fittest to rule.

    For a modern democratic state to function a good deal of education is required which it is in the interests of the authorities not to provide.

    However, I have still to hear an argument that demonstrates that democracy is intrinsically worse that alternative forms of government.

    Coming to one of the points on the main post, I guess it’s fair enough that the imperialist powers that destroyed Iraq’s infrastructure through a decade of politically and economically motivated sanctions be made to pay 55 bn or whatever for its reconstruction under colonial occupation. My only fear is that billions of those dollars, pounds or euros are disappearing into the pockets of corrupt coalition authorities and puppet Iraqi officials as happened under Paul Bremer’s maladministration if I may use the expression.

    Does that sound like my usual self??? 🙂

  32. Adrian,

    Your first paragraph: Sorry but those ‘fittest to win’, (whatever that may mean), would surely be the most likely to do a good job of management. A reasonable assumption I would think.

    Your second paragraph: Education is certainly the key, but not of the sort of brainwashing as delivered by the state system at present. Education should be as separate from politics, as should the judiciary. State education owes far too much to ‘social engineering’.

    Your third paragraph:

    Was it Churchill who said that democracy was a bad system, but, it was the best that we had available?

    Your last paragraph:

    Re the 55 billion and the crooks who have benefited from the war, strange there is no mention of the UN, the French, the Germans and the Russians, and many others who benefited for a long time prior to the war and from the sanctions scam, from which they made a lot of money and didn’t want to end. They bear as much of the blame for the destruction of Iraq, as do those who actually participated in the war itself.

    However, your comment would not be quite the same without the anti American jibe…

    A quote seen on Samizdata recently;

    "I believe in democracy because I distrust the elites. I distrust the elites because I believe that self-deception is widespread, and the elites are particularly skilled at it. Accordingly, I believe that it is important for those in power to have the humility of knowing that they may be voted out of office.

    Others believe in democracy because they are hoping to see the triumph of a particular elite. Many liberals want to see sympathetic technocrats manipulating the levers of government, nominally for the greater good. I see government technocrats as inevitably embedded in a political system that inefficiently processes information. The more they attempt, the more damage they are likely to do. Many conservatives want to see government used for "conservative ends." However, I believe that the more that government tries to correct the flaws of families, the more flawed families will become."

    – Arnold Kling

    Which brings me full circle to my earlier comment –

    Just when the virtues of honesty and integrity are most needed, they are nowhere to be found, and more to the point, it is obvious that there is no place for them in the modern system…

  33. Ernest Young,
    Your point about honesty etc. are exactly what I agreed with. I mean, there’s a fairly poor correlation between a person’s ability to CONVINCE people that he’s capable of serving their interests (which, in any case, the people themselves normally don’t perceive correctly unless they’re either educated correctly or programmed correctly) and his capability to actually serve those interests.

    Which is why we have a string of hopelessly corrupt, yet democratically elected governments in the third world.