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THE MORAL VOID…

By David Vance On February 15th, 2017

Sinn Fein/IRA continue to nauseate me.

A Sinn Fein election candidate who works as a law lecturer at Queen’s has declined to say whether he believes the IRA were justified in shooting dead Edgar Graham at the university in 1983. Peter Doran, 55, who has been selected to run in Lagan Valley, had recently expressed “profound sorrow” about Mr Graham’s death…as he deeply regretted all Troubles-related deaths.

Got that? He is a LAW lecturer at the University where the IRA killed a law lecturer – but he cannot bring himself to state that the IRA was totally unjustified in killing Edgar Graham.

Sinn Fein in 2017 remain as they always have been – the propaganda wing of the IRA, stuffed with the most grotesque moral hypocrites.

21 Responses to “THE MORAL VOID…”

  1. SF is a party that is built on murder and intimidation. Anyone who supports has no morality. They can not question any of the murders because THEY ALL need to questioned and condemned.

    The truth of the matter is ALL members of Sinn Fein and any and everyone that ever voted Sinn Fein. Support Murder as a Tool to get votes.

  2. Grotesque is certainly apt.

  3. It shouldn’t be difficult to condemn the unjustified killing of Graham. Same as I am sure all condemn the unjustified murder of another Irish lawyer named Finucane

  4. The reasons that the IRA gave for the killing of Edgar Graham was that he gave assistance and advice to the NI Prison Service at a time when IRA prisoners were being brutalised in the prisons and that he was making arguments for the reintroduction of Internemnt.

    Personally I don’t think that either reason was justification for his killing.

    On the candidate in question, he seems to be a bit of a Johnny – Come – Lately defector from the Greens. Chris Donnelly recently did a piece on him over at Slugger:

    http://sluggerotoole.com/2017/02/09/sinn-feins-unlikely-candidate/

    It’s good to see you talking about the ‘moral void’ David however weren’t you a DUP supporter prior to shackeling yourself to brainy Bob?

    It’s a pity that you could only bring yourself to condemn the DUP’s ‘moral void’ when they decided to go into government with SF and not when its senior leadership, along with senior members of other shades of unionism, were attending the funerals of mass sectarian murderers like UVF death squad leader John Bingham.

    I suppose that ‘moral void’ only applies to some eh?

    Incidentally, while we’re on the subject of the DUP and murder at QUB, I did my LLM at Queens in 2004/5 and the talk around the legal faculty campfire was why a DUP member who’s now an MLA was not arrested and questioned regarding information on the murder of his then QUB law student colleague and SF member Sheena Campbell in 1992?

    Same as I am sure all condemn the unjustified murder of another Irish lawyer named Finucane

    Don’t hold your breath waiting for that Mahons.

  5. DV – well said.

  6. Mahons

    Doran is a law lecturer at the University that Graham was a law lecturer, before he was murdered in cold blood. The fact Doran CANNOT condemn the IRA killing speaks volumes

    Finucane’s murder was totally unacceptable.

  7. I agree he should condemn it. Mere expressions of general sadness are grossly insufficient.

  8. SF supported, support and will support the murders committed by republicans of their stripe. That makes them not only unfit for government but inhumane and despicable.

    Doran should not have been given a position of lecturing in the first place. There is no place for murder apologists in any school, especially a law school.

  9. SF supported, support and will support the murders committed by republicans of their stripe. That makes them not only unfit for government but inhumane and despicable

    The Irish electorate will be the judges of that NYer not you.

    There is no place for murder apologists in any school, especially a law school.

    What about murder enablers? I wonder would Douglas Hogg and the RUC agree?

  10. Paul McMahon

    Ask any SF person if they condemn the use of murder in the past and possibly in the future. They will either approve of the use of murder or try to slither out of an answer. There is no doubt about the SF position on murder committed by republicans of their stripe. It is a fact, there is no need for a vote on this fact.

    Do you think murder apologists should be on the staffs of schools? Try to answer without prevarication.

  11. Paul – the public regularly elect unfit people for office. Popularity is not determinative.

  12. Personally, I think all NI parties that have ever been involved in or supported violence (paramilitary or state) or the threat of violence/civil war to achieve their aims should be banned.

    I think that would probably leave an SDLP government with the Alliance party in opposition. I’d be happy enough with that.

  13. //I think that would probably leave an SDLP government with the Alliance party in opposition//

    🙂 But I reckon all those Unionist votes would, in the absence of any alternative, give Alliance a permanent majority. ‘Twud be single party rule – like the old pre-1972 Stormont all over again.

    MR, do you think SF has in general peaked long-term?
    With the increasing “Catholic” electorate and an increasing willingness of liberal Unionists to cross the sectarian line perhaps, do you think the SDLP will once again become the main voice of NI Nationalists?

  14. Paul – the public regularly elect unfit people for office. Popularity is not determinative.

    And no noe is making any different claim Mahons the only point that I make to NYer is that the Irish electorate will decide who governs in Ireland and not some guy four thousand miles away.

    Do you think murder apologists should be on the staffs of schools? Try to answer without prevarication

    Unload the question if you want a definitive answer NYer e.g. if you consider defending the use of armed force by a clandestine organisation against an occupation army of trained, salaried professional soldiers as being an apologist for murder then I’ll disagree with you on your definition and answer yes.

    I think that would probably leave an SDLP government with the Alliance party in opposition

    And no British state either.

  15. But I reckon all those Unionist votes would, in the absence of any alternative, give Alliance a permanent majority. ‘Twud be single party rule – like the old pre-1972 Stormont all over again.

    LOL, Noel. They would be insufferably self-righteous but at least would be better than the previous single party rulers!

    MR, do you think SF has in general peaked long-term?
    With the increasing “Catholic” electorate and an increasing willingness of liberal Unionists to cross the sectarian line perhaps, do you think the SDLP will once again become the main voice of NI Nationalists?

    I think SF are now no longer seen as radical game-changers to whom the benefit of the doubt is given over various issues. The general incompetence of the Executive and the ham-fisted way it has dealt with its past has shown they are just another political party and that is turning some people back to the SDLP, turning them to the hard-left or turning them off voting altogether. They’ll still be the biggest nationalist party though if, for no other reason than to stand up to the DUP.

    Colm Eastwood seems to be doing what everyone I know has cried out for the SDLP to do for the last 15 years – remaining a centrist, conciliatory party but returning to its unashamedly strongly nationalist roots as under Hume.

  16. I agree re Colum Eastwood Reg however I think that it’s a case of too little too late to save the SDLP from permanent deciamtion. The Alex Atwoods and Conall McDevitts have caused irrepairable damage to the SDLP.

    SF are also now just another part of political institutionalism.

  17. Mourne Reg

    “I think that would probably leave an SDLP government with the Alliance party in opposition. I’d be happy enough with that.” I would be happy with that also. It would be a government with several intelligent, competent and ethical people.

    I also agree that SF as the lapdog of the DUP are less attractive to voters.

    Paul McMahon

    “Unload the question if you want a definitive answer NYer e.g. if you consider defending the use of armed force by a clandestine organisation against an occupation army of trained, salaried professional soldiers as being an apologist for murder then I’ll disagree with you on your definition and answer yes.” Your republican romanticism is showing again.” A bunch of murderous gangsters out for only their own gain without regard to anyone else is what they were/are. The “professional soldiers” is precious, nearly all of them were/are cowards and the others psychos.

  18. The “professional soldiers” is precious, nearly all of them were/are cowards and the others psychos.

    Is that really how you view the British Army?

  19. David, why would the murder of an IRA man be unacceptable?

  20. Paul McMahon

    Thanks for pointing out my error. Nearly all of the Provos were/are cowards and the others psychos.

  21. ROFLMAO

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