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They Klank when he walks……

By Patrick Van Roy On February 17th, 2017

My fellow Americans will get that whether the rest of you do or not….
You can’t name another President in your life time that has taken this many off the cuff questions EVER…. Trumps gift is what all that is hated about him is what half the country believes a long with him… the Press are corrupt and the American Public are getting screwed by everybody, and we are at War.
Enjoy an unscheduled press and just general lambasting by a real Master of the Art.

125 Responses to “They Klank when he walks……”

  1. I watched a good chunk of this

    He would be much better off if he laid off the bitter ” woe is me ” comments about how unfair the media is and the bragging. There is no leadership in any of that.

    He had been criticized for asking the black woman reporter to set up a meeting with the congressional black caucus.But when you watch it in context, there was nothing wrong with what Trump said- she had to ask Trump if he was willing to meet with the black caucus, and his response was natural and OK.

  2. I watched a good chunk of this

    God bless ye, Phantom. You lasted longer than I did. President Trump needs to realize he’s now the most powerful man in the world. There’s no need to act like you’re in school yard brawl.

    But Troll is right. Trump came out to answer off the cuff the questions from a hostile media.

  3. It takes two to tango, and his childish bellicosity will turn every event like this into a freak show. Which doesn’t reflect well on him.

    I can’t imagine The damage that he is doing to the reputation of the United States overseas –and don’t take the schoolgirl crush accolades on ATW as being in the slightest way representative of British or European opinion

    Today, I had a meeting with a group that was predominantly British. Tough guys, small C conservatives, very pro US. I know them for over 20 years. Words can not express how low their opinion is of this trump, and their concern about the damage that he will do.

  4. His reaction to that Jewish reporter was beyond bizarre. He completely misunderstood the question and responded only by praising himself and insulting the reporter. (eerily similar to how certain people here react to debate)

    http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/16/politics/donald-trump-news-conference-anti-semitism/index.html

  5. Noel, Trump blew that one. He thought, mistakenly, he was being called antisemitic, which clearly he was not.

  6. Where is the Presidential Teleprompter-in-Chief. It seems to have disappeared with the previous incumbent and that’s a pity because it gave rise to some wonderful comedy (not reported on MSM) when it didn’t work.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TrhHVx-IJY

  7. The Press Conference demonstrated an unstable man in over his head without any willingness to accept reality.

  8. You don’t know what you’re doing. You don’t know what you’re doing.

    He reminds me of when Stevie Staunton was in charge of the Ireland team…

    (In Dundalk accent) “I’m de gaffer. De buck stops wit me.”

  9. I can’t imagine The damage that he is doing to the reputation of the United States overseas –and don’t take the schoolgirl crush accolades on ATW as being in the slightest way representative of British or European opinion […]

    The Press Conference demonstrated an unstable man in over his head without any willingness to accept reality.

    In conversation over here the general consensus I’ve experienced is that he’s a disaster for US international image but a gift from the Gods for entertaining TV in a perverse watching a train wreck kinda way.

  10. I hope Alec Baldwin tweets how sad it is to watch Trump’s impression of himself.

  11. I still have trouble seeing how the Trump administration survives a full term. Judging by his Thursday press conference, President Trump’s mental state is like a train that long ago left freewheeling and iconoclastic, has raced through indulgent, chaotic and unnerving, and is now careening past unhinged, unmoored and unglued.

    ,,,
    Everything about Trump that appalls 65 percent of America strengthens him with the other 35 percent, and he can ride that group for a while. Even after these horrible four weeks, Republicans on Capitol Hill are not close to abandoning their man.

    The likelihood is this: We’re going to have an administration that has morally and politically collapsed, without actually going away.
    ,,,

    For the past 70 years most nations have instinctively looked to the U.S. for leadership, either to follow or oppose. But in capitals around the world, intelligence agencies are drafting memos with advice on how to play Donald Trump.

    The first conclusion is obvious. This administration is more like a medieval monarchy than a modern nation-state. It’s more “The Madness of King George” than “The Missiles of October.” The key currency is not power, it’s flattery.

    The corollary is that Trump is ripe to be played. Give the boy a lollipop and he won’t notice if you steal his lunch. The Japanese gave Trump a new jobs announcement he could take to the Midwest, and in return they got presidential attention and coddling that other governments would have died for.

    If you want to roll the Trump administration, you’ve got to get in line. The Israelis got a possible one-state solution. The Chinese got Trump to flip-flop on the “One China” policy. The Europeans got him to do a 180 on undoing the Iran nuclear deal.

    Vladimir Putin was born for a moment such as this. He is always pushing the envelope. After gifting Team Trump with a little campaign help, the Russian state media has suddenly turned on Trump and Russian planes are buzzing U.S. ships. The bear is going to grab what it can.

    We’re about to enter a moment in which U.S. economic and military might is strong but U.S. political might is weak. Imagine the Roman Empire governed by Monaco.

    That’s scary. The only saving thought is this: The human imagination is vast, but it is not nearly vast enough to encompass the infinitely multitudinous ways Donald Trump can find to get himself disgraced.

    David Brooks, today’s NY Times

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/17/opinion/what-a-failed-trump-administration-looks-like.html?ref=opinion&_r=0

  12. They

    Klank when he walks……

    What do? His hip or knee replacements? 😁

  13. Trump has 2 choices

    1) humble himself before the american people and serve
    ( that means living with the media, accommodating different viewpoints)

    2) Call Putin and ask for help in transitioning to a State-Run Media

    Donald to Vlad: I know what I want ( RT propoganda channel mixed with North Korean type 24/7 images stories of the wonderful me , but where exactly do I start?

    Vlad: we used a range of tools: imprisonment on false charges, hacking, bankrupty
    last resort we just poison them..

    Donald: thank you Vlad I’ll get my team ( bannon ) on it straight away
    and get alex jones to prepare the flase flags, black swans bigly

    Vlad: Excellent

  14. Remember: The strong survive by crushing the weak opponent. The Progressive liberals, the Democrat party and the militant Islamic hoards know that. Sadly the Rhinos and “coexist” folks either don’t know it or choose to ignore it. The only one on “our side” who realizes it and is willing to use it to the full extent is President Trump. I wish him well and hope someday I can sit by his side and drink from the skulls of our mutual enemies.

  15. EDDIE

    Do you agree with the Trump strategery of lying all the time

  16. From this side of the pond:

    Trump said he wasn’t “ranting and raving” during his press conference, and that was correct. The president was confidently unhinged as he spent more than an hour berating the press and boasting without any real basis that “there has never been a presidency that’s done so much in such a short period of time”.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/16/donald-trump-press-conference-administration-defense-media

  17. I would think that many of America’s friends are seriously worried.

    He is unhinged, and chunks of the conference were him just babbling left and right, the drunk guy at the back of the subway car at 3am talking to himself.

  18. berating the press and boasting without any real basis that “there has never been a presidency that’s done so much in such a short period of time”.

    says The Guardian which is representative of the ‘left’. Now let’s see what Trump said:

    We’re issuing a new executive action next week that will comprehensively protect our country. So we’ll be going along the one path and hopefully winning that, at the same time we will be issuing a new and very comprehensive order to protect our people. That will be done sometime next week, toward the beginning or middle at the latest part. We have also taken steps to begin construction of the Keystone Pipeline and Dakota Access Pipelines. Thousands and thousands of jobs, and put new buy American measures in place to require American steel for American pipelines. In other words, they build a pipeline in this country, and we use the powers of government to make that pipeline happen, we want them to use American steel. And they are willing to do that, but nobody ever asked before I came along. Even this order was drawn and they didn’t say that.

    That’s oil and steel workers

    Jobs have already started to surge. Since my election, Ford announced it will abandon its plans to build a new factory in Mexico, and will instead invest $700 million in Michigan, creating many, many jobs.

    Fiat Chrysler announced it will invest $1 billion in Ohio and Michigan, creating 2,000 new American jobs. They were with me a week ago. You know you were here.

    General Motors likewise committed to invest billions of dollars in its American manufacturing operation, keeping many jobs here that were going to leave. And if I didn’t get elected, believe me, they would have left. And these jobs and these things that I’m announcing would never have come here.

    Intel just announced that it will move ahead with a new plant in Arizona that probably was never going to move ahead with. And that will result in at least 10,000 American jobs.

    Walmart announced it will create 10,000 jobs in the United States just this year because of our various plans and initiatives. There will be many, many more, many more, these are a few that we’re naming.

    And that’s everybody else.

    These things are factual – they are true. As we saw yesterday from the coalworkers whose jobs are secured, American workers are getting their jobs back. Those at ATW who scoff tend to work where the greatest risk is a paper-cut, and those can be a serious health and safety matter so I’m not belittling their ‘bravery’

  19. Allan, Pete

    You guys should take your show on the road as Trump flacks.

    You’re always on message, and you’re always on time.

  20. So…by the end of the year, Trump will definitely create more jobs in the US than Obama has done in any of his previous years?

    Let’s just see, shall we.

  21. Let’s just see, shall we.

    We shall see, and I recon that we will see many jobs created. Trump’s making plenty of enemies, which means he’s doing his job.

  22. Australia has been exposed as the true enemy. Only Trump could have known this.

  23. The Aussie phone call doesn’t bother me, except that it was leaked by someone* illegally. It showed the President doing what he was elected to do, i.e. protect our country from unwanted refugees. The Aussie deal was a bad Obama one, and Trump was trying to fix it.

    That being said, Mr. Trump, go easy on the Aussies. They’ve always had our backs.

    *I’m not going to say Deep State, since I haven’t a shred of evidence who leaked it.

  24. Just as well Trump became President twenty eight days ago or those multi million / billion dollar decisions that he boasts of would never have been made because such major financial business decisions are always taken in four weeks.

    Credit where credit isn’t due.

  25. A USA Today fisking of Trump’s press conference falsehoods.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/02/17/fact-check-trump-news-conference/98009514/

  26. Correct

    Decisions like that are in the works years in advance.

    And inward manufacturing investment to the US from Japan and Germany etc had been happening all through the Obama term, and before that. It is a very long term and positive trend.

  27. Paul, you may be right, but I have to report that there’s an electricity in the air here. The is a big misunderstanding in the Mexican-American community in El Paso that Trump is going to throw them out, even if the have a green card. The people that SHOULD be scared are the ones with no papers that are committing crimes

    There is a feeling that this President means business.

  28. U.S. subsidiaries of Japanese firms employed over 718,900
    U.S. workers in 2012; of which, nearly 550,000 jobs were in
    manufacturing sectors. The average yearly salary for these workers is
    $79,819.

    Good thing that Trump got those jobs before 2012. Before Trump the Japanese never thought of investing in America. MAGA

    http://2016.export.gov/japan/build/groups/public/@eg_jp/documents/webcontent/eg_jp_064840.pdf

  29. The people that SHOULD be scared are the ones with no papers that are committing crimes

    I don’t think that anyone would argue someone being illegally in a country and comitting crimes should not be there Charles.

    There is a feeling that this President means business.

    Perhaps but expelling illegals is no substitute for inward investment and real job creation.

  30. Slightly O/T,Tomorrow I’m going to a fundraising dinner for the El Paso Republican Party, with guest speaker Governor Gregg Abbott. Abbott has threatened cutting of state funding for El Paso due to the sanctuary city status. About 400 will be in attendance with about 200 protestors expected. I’ll report on it afterwards.

  31. I don’t think that anyone would argue someone being illegally in a country and comitting crimes should not be there Charles.

    You would be surprised Paul. That is what the sanctuary city mess is all about. Some Democratic cities don’t want to enforce federal immigration law, and catch then release illegals. Many of these illegals have committed crimes, but are released anyway.

    Illegal immigrants convicted of various crimes committed more than 100 murders in four years after they were released from prison and not deported by the Obama administration, according to a new report.

    The Miami Herald cites a Senate Judiciary Committee document dating back to 2015, which discusses the recidivism rate among people living in the United States illegally.

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/convicted-released-illegals-murders/2017/02/09/id/772870/

  32. Illegal immigrants convicted of various crimes committed more than 100 murders in four years after they were released from prison and not deported by the Obama administration, according to a new report

    That kinda grates with this?

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obamas-deportation-policy-numbers/story?id=41715661

  33. Paul, your link calls Obama the “deporter-in-chief.” That’s probably true, but so many illegals, so little time!

  34. I can’t imagine The damage that he is doing to the reputation of the United States overseas

    None. None whatsoever. In fact, despite the 1985-style permanent hate firected at him by the entirety of the politico-media establishment here, a clear majority of Britons want him to come over.

    We all see through the bullshit now.

    and don’t take the schoolgirl crush accolades on ATW as being in the slightest way representative of British or European opinion

    That’s ok. You’re not a real American either.

  35. Here, a clear majority of Britons want him to come over

    Have you a base for that claim Pete?

  36. Poor Pete thinks that the majority of American voters aren’t real Americans, based on his watching a few Clint Eastwood movies I guess.

  37. I can’t imagine The damage that he is doing to the reputation of the United States overseas

    Yes – the BBC is in utter disbelief that a man would campaign to become President then set about doing exactly what he said that he would do. It’s so unacceptable

  38. Hola Paul –

    Have you a base for that claim Pete?

    Why yes I do.

    https://twitter.com/IpsosMORI/status/832558368875282432

    53 per cent of Britons think that President Trump should have been invited to a state visit. 42 per cent think not.

  39. Mahons, on February 17th, 2017 at 10:25 AM Said:

    The Press Conference demonstrated an unstable man in over his head without any willingness to accept reality.

    Paul McMahon, on February 17th, 2017 at 10:57 AM Said:

    In conversation over here the general consensus I’ve experienced is that he’s a disaster for US international image but a gift from the Gods for entertaining TV in a perverse watching a train wreck kinda way.

    I watched that press conference and there was no train wreck, no instability, no rejection of reality. On the other hand, below is a video link to Trump’s predecessor, and that really was a train wreck. The man’s brain was his teleprompter and critics of Trump should really be asking themselves what they would say about Trump if he were to demonstrate such woeful incoherence. Now watch and compare – Okie-doke?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TrhHVx-IJY

  40. Did you enjoy it when he conducted a pity party for himself by speaking of the problems that he inherited?

    Such a terrible hand, nothing like the global peace and roaring economy that Mr. Obama inherited.

  41. http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/18-wtf-moments-from-trumps-unhinged-press-conference-w467518

  42. How many times?

    I’d be surprised if Obama could order a pizza without a script. President Trump took hostile questions for an hour, slayed the hacks all around him and loved every minute. The man’s a pro.

  43. Phantom –

    I’m not au fait with base hackery. What does “wtf” mean?

  44. Does Trump know he made it to the White House? and is not still on the campaign trail?
    That press conference was surreal.

  45. Do you agree with Trump’s statement that Hillary ” gave Russia 20 percent of our uranium ” ( perhaps in return for bribes)?

    Hopefully no one here is dumb enough to believe that architecture of several lies, but if someone does believe it perhaps they can explain how they got to that place.

  46. trump did not take questions for any hour.

    Much of that time was spent on unhinged self pity and blathering about this and that, including ratings and misunderstandings of the electoral margin

  47. Bernard –

    I suspect that President Trump will be happy to stop campaigning against the Left Wing hacks when they stop campaigning against him.

    Look, everyone keeps on judging him by normal political standards. You’ll never understand what he’s thinking if you stay in this mental straightjacket.

    For all the Phantom-like bleating, tens of millions of Americans cheered on every minute of that magnificent press conference. You think Trump cares what some CNN bum thinks?

  48. President Trump took hostile questions for an hour, slayed the hacks all around him and loved every minute.

    LOL. It was the performance of a wacko, with so many clangers: anti-semitism, people of colour, repeating the lie about his electoral college win being the biggest since Reagan, failing to answer the question, attacking the reporter as the question was being asked.

    I doubt if we will see a repeat any time soon, but here’s hoping.

    Even the guys at Fox were appalled. Only Breitbart is still in the bunker with their fuhrer, as they will be to the bitter end with this bitter half-wit.

  49. Fox does have some tough and honest reporters and Shep Smith is one of them.

  50. I suspect that President Trump will be happy to stop campaigning against the Left Wing hacks when they stop campaigning against him.

    That would be when they STFU and stop asking “hostile” questions that the American people deserve to have answered? Eg. about his relationship with Putin. That’s what got the guys at Fox enraged. Those questions are legitimate and this jerk of a president needs to answer them. And maybe cut down on the daily output of lies, but how could he break the habit of a lifetime?

  51. At least Trump has one overseas admirer — Basher Assad.
    Speaking to reporters of a French TV station today, Assad said he agreed with Trump’s travel ban, saying it was understandable, and was not against Syrians but terrorists, who were also threatening his own country too.
    He also said he has no opinion of Trump himself, as Trump had not formulated any policy on Syria.

    I bet they’ll meet soon.

  52. At least Trump has one overseas admirer

    No Bernard, there are several, all fellow authoritarian white nationalists:

    Putin in Russia
    Farage in Britain
    Orban in Hungary
    Le-Pen in France
    Wilders in Holland
    What’s his name who lost the election in Austria

    A distinguished group without a doubt.

  53. LOL. It was the performance of a wacko, with so many clangers: anti-semitism, people of colour, repeating the lie about his electoral college win being the biggest since Reagan, failing to answer the question, attacking the reporter as the question was being asked.

    Once again, we saw the conference for ourselves and it was not as described above. Here are the highlights of Trump’s victory over the Luegenpresse as described by Mark Dice:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4GrlOMlOBY

    MacJamesGuitar9 hours ago
    Voted for Trump. I like him 10x more and feel I more than got my vote’s worth!

    Bernard, on February 17th, 2017 at 9:19 PM Said:

    At least Trump has one overseas admirer — Basher Assad.

    Correct, and Assad is correct, and that’s why he’s the correct man for Syria and most other places too!

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-assad-usa-idUSKBN15V0N2

    Syria’s President Bashar al-Assad said President Donald Trump’s ban on Syrians entering the United States targeted terrorists, not the Syrian people, appearing to defend the logic of the measure in an interview broadcast on Thursday.

    Trump last month issued an executive order, since suspended by a U.S. district judge, that temporarily barred travelers from seven mostly Muslim countries including Syria, as well as imposing an indefinite ban on all Syrian refugees.

    “It’s against the terrorists that would infiltrate some of the immigrants to the West. And that happened. It happened in Europe, mainly in Germany,” Assad said in the interview with Europe 1 radio and TF1 television which was recorded on Tuesday in English.

    “I think the aim of Trump is to prevent those people from coming.” It was “not against the Syrian people”, he said.

    And anyway, why should Presidents Trump and Assad not dine together?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10283045/John-Kerry-and-Bashar-al-Assad-dined-in-Damascus.html

  54. Once again, we saw the conference for ourselves and it was not as described above.

    No, Allan, everything I posted happened. The press conference was an undignified shambles to anyone not blinded by the light that shines around their messiah, like you and Pete Moore and a few others hereabouts.

    This man is utterly unfit for the office he holds. And at some level, you guys all know that.

  55. Over at Phantom’s Infowars, there’s this little report:

    http://www.infowars.com/survey-nearly-2-million-non-citizens-illegally-registered-to-vote/

    A little-known survey of Hispanics in the U.S. revealed as many as two million non-citizens are illegally registered to vote, bolstering claims by Donald Trump that voter fraud cost him the popular vote, especially as Hispanics only count as a portion ofthe total illegal alien population.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/feb/12/noncitizen-voters-feud-between-academics-resurface/

    A small research group has entered the debate on voter fraud, siding with academics who estimate that large numbers of noncitizens illegally register and vote in U.S. elections.

    Just Facts, founded in New Jersey 20 years ago by a Brown-educated mechanical engineer, released its findings as President Trump was setting up a task force on voter fraud headed by Vice President Mike Pence.

    “Contrary to the claims of certain major media outlets and fact checkers, a comprehensive analysis of polling data, election records and government investigations shows that many noncitizens vote illegally in U.S. elections,” Just Facts President James D. Agresti told The Washington Times.

    Ever since two professors at Old Dominion University and one at George Mason University collaboratively released a 2014 study saying noncitizens vote illegally in U.S. elections, and they vote mostly for Democrats, the liberal media and academia have tried to crush the findings.

  56. No, Allan, everything I posted happened.

    Yes Peter – it must be true. It happened in your mind:

  57. Yes Peter – it must be true. It happened in your mind

    Allan

    Try playing your own link and get get back to me.

  58. More from Phantom’s Infowars, used as a vector to Gateway Pundit:

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/02/chelsea-clinton-supports-six-time-deported-violent-convicted-criminal-illegal-alien/

    Chelsea Clinton voiced her outrage Wednesday night to her over 1.49 million followers on Twitter over a report that a six time deported illegal alien man from Mexico with a lengthy criminal record that includes a convictions for domestic violence and assault was detained by ICE last week in Texas.

    This one is just mental.

  59. as many as two million non-citizens are illegally registered to vote,

    “as many as” is interesting. It implies the top end of an estimate (“fake news”?), but let’s make the heroic assumption that this claim is true. It still leaves these facts:

    1. The fact that illegals are registered does not prove either that they voted or who they voted for.

    2. The fact that Hillary won the popular vote by 2.8 million. So Trump still loses the popular vote.

    A combination of deduction and arithmetic.

    You need to (a) confirm that this “little known study” is reliable and (b) find at least another million illegals registered to vote in order to get even close to giving credibility to Toxic’s claim that Hillary stole the election. Maybe if Breitbart got involved, or better still, Alex Jones. That should swing it.

  60. Peter – it isn’t just the known illegals, but also the unknown illegals, plus the dead who rose en masse to support Hillary. Anyway, I’m not attempting to prove Trump’s case sitting on my arse at my computer: I’m just showing from these sources that the case is there to be made, and it’s looking that way.

  61. plus the dead who rose en masse to support Hillary.

    Facts, figures, evidence? Or Fake News?

    Anyway, I’m not attempting to prove Trump’s case sitting on my arse at my computer

    Really? It looks otherwise to me, and I daresay a few others.

  62. Peter –

    Facts, figures, evidence? Or Fake News?

    Who knows? Best have an investigation to find out, yes?

  63. Look, everyone keeps on judging him by normal political standards. You’ll never understand what he’s thinking if you stay in this mental straightjacket.

    Pete, that is a true statement. Trump is the only non-politician, non-general, that we’ve had as a president in 225 years. The old playbooks are worthless in predicting what Trump will do or say.

  64. Who knows? Best have an investigation to find out, yes?

    Yes of course Pete. But Allan seemed to be pre-judging the outcome.

  65. You’ll never understand what he’s thinking

    He thinks? That wasn’t obvious at the press conference.

  66. And then there all those pesky conflicts of interest:

    “Remember when Donald Trump promised to label China a currency manipulator “on Day One”? Whatever happened to that promise?

    A review of recent developments in the relationship between the Trump administration and the Chinese is elucidating. Trump rattled China early on in his administration after taking a phone call from Taiwan’s president. It was never clear whether the phone call was a diplomatic blunder or a deliberate strategy.

    However, just weeks later, Trump reassured Chinese President Xi Jinping that the United States would support the “One China” policy that sees Taiwan as part of China. Why the abrupt change of heart? It’s worth noting that a few days after that phone call, something else happened: China granted Trump’s business a valuable 10-year trademark. The trademark was considered a surprise win for Trump.

    Critics have said Trump’s business interests create an impossible web of conflicts that could make him vulnerable to undue influence by foreign actors. The China story corroborates those concerns in spades. Consider this: In China, Trump “has 49 pending trademark applications and 77 marks already registered in his own name, most of which will come up for renewal during his term,” according to The Associated Press.

    “China’s decision to award President Trump with a new trademark allowing him to profit from the use of his name is a clear conflict of interest and deeply troubling,” said Sen. Dianne Feinstein, Democrat of California, in a statement. “If this isn’t a violation of the emoluments clause, I don’t know what is…”

    http://uk.businessinsider.com/trumps-conflict-of-interest-with-china-2017-2?r=US&IR=T

  67. He thinks? That wasn’t obvious at the press conference.

    Obviously, there was a hidden teleprompter to tell Trump what to say. Every President for the past 8 years uses one wherever he goes because, without one, there could be a train wreck:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omHUsRTYFAU

    Just as well that the media didn’t see this

  68. The press conference was a car crash.

  69. Peter, I don’t know if Trump could be bought off that cheaply by China. However, this trademark story is news to me.

  70. Peter, on February 17th, 2017 at 10:51 PM Said:

    Who knows? Best have an investigation to find out, yes?

    Yes of course Pete. But Allan seemed to be pre-judging the outcome.

    No Peter – here’s what I wrote:

    Anyway, I’m not attempting to prove Trump’s case sitting on my arse at my computer: I’m just showing from these sources that the case is there to be made, and it’s looking that way.

    There is a case and there shall be an investigation, as Trump has said and you know that he said it.

    http://denver.cbslocal.com/2016/09/22/cbs4-investigation-finds-dead-voters-casting-ballots-in-colorado/

    DENVER (CBS4) – A CBS4 investigation has found multiple cases of dead men and women voting in Colorado months and in some cases years after their deaths, a revelation that calls into question safeguards designed to prevent such occurrences.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-30/meet-young-virginia-democrat-registered-19-dead-people-vote-virginia

    Just yesterday we wrote about an FBI investigation into potential voter fraud in the critical swing state of Virginia after it was revealed that 19 dead people had recently been re-registered to vote (see “FBI Investigating More Dead People Voting In The Key Swing State Of Virginia”). While the Washington Post caught wind of the investigation, it was not known who was behind the operation…until now.

    Meet, Andrew Spieles, a student at James Madison University, and apparently “Lead Organizer” for HarrisonburgVOTES. According to the Daily News-Record, Spieles confessed to re-registering 19 deceased Virginians to vote in the 2016 election cycle.

    It’s easy to do and it’s been done many times. For some reason, the dead all vote Democrat which I thought strange until I realised that the dead are also brain-dead

  71. Peter – does that mean that not only does Trump not want war with Russia, but he won’t want war with China either? This could be a boring Presidency with no wars because the President prefers to do business with those whom he’s supposed to war against. FFS even Assad is getting on Trump’s side: Iranians next?

  72. Charles

    Trump’s failure to deal with his potential conflicts of interest means that stories like this are going to appear regularly. It’s a self-inflicted wound.

  73. Peter

    It occurred to me that when I said Trump could not be bought that cheaply, somewhere in my mind I entertain the thought that he COULD be bought. Maybe that’s why we have never had a businessman in the White House before.

    I don’t see how Trump can divest himself enough to tone down his critics.

  74. Peter – does that mean that not only does Trump not want war with Russia, but he won’t want war with China either?

    I’ve no idea Allan. But I think we can say with confidence that Trump will always consider his business interests in dealing as POTUS with all countries, including China and Russia. That should be cause for concern, even for you as a Trump groupie. Or maybe not?

  75. I don’t see how Trump can divest himself enough to tone down his critics.

    Charles

    He could have sold all his businesses before Inauguration Day. He’s a 70 year old billionaire. If he wants to serve his country as he claims to, why hold on and expose himself to all the potential conflicts of interest?

  76. If he wants to serve his country as he claims to, why hold on and expose himself to all the potential conflicts of interest?

    That’s true. The only thing I can think of is that his vast real estate holdings are not that fungible, or can be sold that quickly.

  77. Peter – if Trump has business interests in Iran, Russia, China, Syria and all the ‘enemy’ states and these business interests inhibit warmongering, then that’s a good thing and a new model for international relations.

    But yes, Trump must divest himself of his interests which could cause potential conflicts – unless they prevent potential conflicts?

  78. Peter – if Trump has business interests in Iran, Russia, China, Syria and all the ‘enemy’ states and these business interests inhibit warmongering, then that’s a good thing and a new model for international relations.

    That’s the most blatant excuse for corruption that I have ever heard Allan. Well done.

    You seem to be saying that if Trump sold his businesses, WW3 would be more likely. So much better to put up with the corruption. But he’ll never be as rich as Vlad.

  79. bitter half-wit.

    Brilliant Peter!

    And bravo on your good work slaying the Trump zombies in this thread.

  80. Cheers Daphne.

  81. His real estate holdings are a lot more than any of ours are, but they are not what the average person might think

    For example, the average Joe might think that he owns Trump Tower –but he really doesn’t. Most of that building consists of condominiums that would be owned by the people that live in them

    Other trump buildings, and the one in Honolulu comes to mind, would not be owned by him at all I believe- he pocketed a licensing fee for the use of his name which was slapped on it

    All is not what it seems

  82. And like many developers His projects very likely are financed by very large debts- are used to brag a lot about being the king of debt

    The US banks stopped trusting him a very long time ago after he went backrupt so many times

    The only major western bank that I know that lends him money is Deutsche bank which is in financial trouble- and I imagine that he Has debts to the Russians , – and of course it would not be money laundering, to say that would be unkind- and you’ll never see the tax returns so you’ll never know The true nature of his relationship with Russian oligarchs

    The Russians play ball with him in various ways so he loves them

  83. I imagine that he Has debts to the Russians ,

    He explicitly denied that in the presser.

  84. in Russia he said. A difference?

  85. There are many ways to play this game

    I would not believe one thing that this guy says

    The secrecy and the belligerence should raise every alarm bell in the country

    The exceptional hostility towards the press is meant to divert from all scrutiny of these matters

  86. Trust but verify

  87. Daphne stay off my threads.

  88. Trump is President.
    Trump won the support of half the American Voters including the rank and file Union Vote.
    The entire 8yrs of Obama the foreclosure of homes and businesses along with unemployment were worse than they had been during the great depression.
    The only people hated more than politicians in the US is the Press.

    Paul Ryan stated yesterday that they are on a 200 day schedule. That by the end of those 200 days Obamacare will be Repealed and Replaced, that Trumps Tax plan will be in place, and that construction will have started on the wall.

    Lets see by September what is done and what is not.

    So far Trump has had a great first month, he is moving full speed ahead and making great progress.

    The Left has lost this round and because they were beat by someone they look at as a clown that loss is more bitter to them and much sweeter to the rest of us.

  89. John the war failure and constitutional traitor McCain went to a foreign country and bashed both the United States and President Trump.

    In his foam at the mouth remarks delivered on foreign soil he proved many things. First that he is a scumbag that like any Progressive has no qualms of bad mouthing both his country and his President on Foreign Soil.

    Second he is the Number One Poster Boy for Term Limits.

    Third he should be drug tested and tested for Alzheimers the moment he steps foot back in the Nation.

    This piece of Crap that has sucked off of the Tit of the American Taxpayer his whole life needs to be retired. He is an embarrassment to all Americans and is the best walking example of everything that is wrong with our political system.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/02/17/john-mccain-just-systematically-dismantled-donald-trumps-entire-worldview/?utm_term=.c23b2be64ffd

  90. Trump did not win half the votes

    He is very much a minority candidate , as GWB was

  91. bullshit Phantom out of the 130 million that voted he got half the votes and the majority where it counted.

    Hillary beat him by three million but they both got vote totals in the mid 60 millions.

    You can sputter and stutter all you want, but Trump not only got half the votes, he got the half that counted.

  92. No, Allan

  93. really Jo

  94. I still want to hear an explanation of what that was all about

  95. what what was all about?

    Trump won half the votes you seem to disagree with this fact.

    Out of around the 130 Million that voted there was only 3 million votes that separated them.

    You seem to think Trump won by the miracle of some third party candidate taking a huge percentage of the vote the way Bill Clinton won the first time, except that is not what happened. Out of the people that voted Trump took half and Hillary took half the race was so close in number that Hillary actually got a few more votes and still lost because she lost in the majority of places.

    You have gone off the deep end with your hate for this President. 63 Million out of 130 Million is as close to half as you are ever going to get and the half that he won got him the Presidency. To say He is very much a minority candidate is the babbling of someone that is delusional.

    There are plenty of reasons to dislike the man, but you are living in a NY Bubble Fantasy Delusion when you say he is a minority candidate. The only real minority are the people who couldn’t muster the spine to vote for either Hillary or Trump.

    Only two people could have won the race and agree with it or not the better person won.

  96. No pay attention to the English language

    You mentioned Jo

    I want to know what Jo was all about

    Trump is a liar and a thief and those of us that have known him the longest at the ones that are most certainly about this

  97. you called me Allan

  98. Trump is a liar and a thief and those of us that have known him the longest at the ones that are most certainly about this

    you were asked to provide all the information you had that made you feel the way you do about Trump. You provided nothing, and he was running against a woman that had committed multiple felonies and sold her govt office and influence to any and every person, company, and country that was willing to pay.

    Trump is not who I wanted as President, but he won fair and square. In the 28 days that he has been President he has done a good job so far and hasn’t even had his cabinet to work with.

    Find fault in things he is doing as President Phantom and then maybe you won’t be calling everyone that disagrees with you conspiracy kooks, or white supremacists. If you are going to call me Allan and act irrational with no ground to stand on then you are heading down a path no better than Jo.

  99. He did not win half the vote

    He got a lot of votes – he won almost half the vote –he has a constituency – but he is absolutely a minority candidate -and everyone here knows it

  100. he won almost half the vote –he has a constituency – but he is absolutely a minority candidate

    these statements don’t jibe. Yes he does have a constituency, and it crosses all demographics and party lines.

    How close in your mind does it have to be to be considered half? Both candidates got in the mid 60s and were only around 3 percentage points apart. On this you’re just being silly and refusing to admit that half the people that voted picked him. Probably because you can’t accept that half the people that voted disagree with your view of him.

    A minor candidate? In a race where 130 million voted an a person gets over 62 Million they aren’t a minority especially when they win the damn election…..

    You’re being wacky Phantom.

    The guy is an obnoxious oaf, and you don’t like him. Now you can dis on his personality all you want, there is much that I find embarrassing about him. However so far he has picked people I like to do specific jobs. He picked a damn good Supreme Court Candidate. Add to that like it or not he has kept more of his campaign promises in his first month than most Presidents do their whole two terms…. we could spend days discussing everything Obama promised that he didn’t deliver on.

    So far as much as I hate to admit it he has gotten accomplished and is on the road to accomplish more than my choice would have been able to get done.

    I know he’s gonna fuck up, but he hasn’t yet. When he does I’ll fry him harder than you, but in the meantime you are behaving like a democrat and it really is unbecoming. You’re a smart man get a grip on your emotions boy….

  101. Today was a good day… I graduated from two canes to one.

    don’t sour my good mood.

  102. I didn’t say that he was a minor candidate – obviously he is a major candidate , with a large constituency

    But he received a minority of the votes cast ; his major opponent received millions of votes more than he did. He is the very definition of a minority candidate. He got the support of a big minority; but a minority. nonetheless.

    It is especially important to get this fact right since one of the many constant lies coming from him is his assertion that he won the popular vote,

    Saying that the popular vote was a tie is splitting the difference between the truth and the Lie

    The next four years will see an endless torrent of small and large lies coming from him, more numerous than in any past administration. There must be no concession to this principle of belligerent dishonesty

  103. Good show on the cane

    Good weather this weekend; hope things are looking up

  104. Today was a good day… I graduated from two canes to one.

    don’t sour my good mood.

    Way to go Troll! Two steps forward and one step back for me. In my boxing class I worked out too hard and opened up a hernia just below my sternum. Now I have an appointment with the surgeon. But I’m in a good mood as well.

  105. But he received a minority of the votes cast ; his major opponent received millions of votes more than he did. He is the very definition of a minority candidate. He got the support of a big minority; but a minority. nonetheless.

    ok so 65 vs 62 makes the 62 a minority…..

    sounds to me like you’re just trying to portray something that isn’t true making it sound like he got a Ron Paul level of votes.

  106. Charles it’s supposed to help not make it easier for you to hurt yourself.

  107. At least Trump has one overseas admirer — Basher Assad

    But of course. Any friend of Vlad’s……

  108. Are none of the Trump fanboys and girls here not concerned in the slightest that their hero is so insecure, that he feels the need to run endless press conferences and rallies – after his election – to try and prove how great he is!? I can’t remember any other president who talked about themselves so much. It’s about the office of President, not the personality in it. He is a huge, petulant, insecure man-boy, who keeps having to tell people how great he is, because nobody else will, and he gathers around him people who will lie – sorry, present ‘alternative facts’ – on his behalf, just like any other schoolyard bully.
    By the way – saying, “He will fuck up, and when he does, I’ll fry him more than anyone,” is a cowardly get-out clause, Troll. You voted for him, therefore you support all the ‘Grab her by the pussy’, anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant, childish, bullying, mysogonistic, megalomaniacal bullshit that goes along with vote. At least be honest about it.
    Well done with the cane, by the way. It must be easier to shake your fist, without having a stick in it 🙂

  109. Barack Obama mentioned himself and said “me” a minimum of 27 times every time he spoke, he didn’t hold rallies because no one would have shown up….

  110. By the way – saying, “He will fuck up, and when he does, I’ll fry him more than anyone,” is a cowardly get-out clause, Troll. You voted for him, therefore you support all the ‘Grab her by the pussy’, anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant, childish, bullying, mysogonistic, megalomaniacal bullshit that goes along with vote. At least be honest about it.
    Well done with the cane, by the way. It must be easier to shake your fist, without having a stick in it 🙂

    thank you…

    and that is not a cowardly get out clause…..

    Right now in his first month I haven’t got a single complaint. He is working on everything that I want him to work on.

    I do have faith though that he will fuck up and screw something badly, afterall he has been a Democrat his whole life.

    As for the grabin P*****y we had a Rapist for President who took advantage of and molested young girls in the Oval Office…. I don’t think anything Trump has said comes close to that, and besides I’m not a Trump promoter he was not my first choice, but he is certainly a much better choice than Hillary Clinton.

  111. Sorry, Troll, but if every person who voted for Sinn Fein supported terrorism, then EVERY person who voted for Trump – tactically or not – supported ‘Grab her by the pussy,’ including you. Unless of course your statement about SF supporters is wrong?
    And to use another of your tactics – we’re not talking about any other president. We’re talking about your choice of president – the one you voted for and support, ie the ‘pussy grabbing’ fan, Donald Trump. You want to talk about a past incumbent? Write a post on him.
    See how this stuff works?

  112. Sorry, Troll, but if every person who voted for Sinn Fein supported terrorism, then EVERY person who voted for Trump – tactically or not – supported ‘Grab her by the pussy,’ including you. Unless of course your statement about SF supporters is wrong?

    I’ll grab that then…. 😉

    PS I wrote this post I can make the thread whatever I want…:)

  113. Which part? That you support grabbing women ‘by the pussy’, or that your statement about SF supporters was wrong?
    Ah – one rule for you, another for everyone else regarding what they can and cannot discuss in any given post?

  114. Klank, klank, klank.

    Our sympathy must go to all in Sweden after what happened last night:

    http://www.thelocal.se/20170219/swedes-baffled-by-trumps-last-night-in-sweden-comment

  115. Trump doesn’t know where Sweden is

  116. I think that half the time Trump doesn’t know where Trump is.

  117. Every serious US and non US observer by this point is asking whether the man is mentally ill

    This is a more important matter than any positions that he holds

  118. no same rules for everyone. He said it, I voted for him I own it….

    using your logic.

  119. So Phantom Why?

    What has Trump done that’s insane? Seize 1/6th of the American Economy and Turn it over to bureaucrats? …. No wait the last one did that…

    Tell us write a list of all the horrible things Trump has done that are insane in his first 30 days.

  120. oh and Seimi anyone can talk about anything…. as long as it’s not Daphne or Mairin. Neither should speak on my threads at all….

  121. It is many things that he has said. If you are unaware of them at this point, I cant help you

    I sure you that many Americans and our friends from other countries are thinking

    And your spin doctoring against Obama isn’t even correct.

  122. I think he’s realised the enormity of the situation he’s got himself into Phantom and that no amount of erratic behaviour and ‘good old Trump bullshit’ will save him at this level.

    There’s only so many times that criticism and difficult questions can be deflected by dismissing it as ‘fake news’ and attacking the questioners.

    The ‘something last night in Sweden’ comment really was the stuff of imbecilic incompetence.

  123. Put that comment of his next to Kellyanne Conway’s repeated references to the Bowling Green massacre

    There isn’t the slightest tread of human dignity about this asshole. The endless comments about his ratings, The ratings of reality television shows that he is not appearing in, fake news out of his mouth about the number of electoral votes that he got. It never ends

  124. do you know how ridiculous you sound?

    The man has been President for a total of 30 days, and he really hasn’t done anything yet.

    You don’t like the fact that the we elected a Carney for President…. oh well too bad for you.

    Nothing has happened yet to even raise an eyebrow. What are you guys going to do when the shit hits the fan and the bullets start flying?

    And what did I make up about Obama? He turned one sixth of the economy over to the bureaucrats and it collapsed…. what a surprise from a man who launched his political career in the living room of a man and his wife that are terrorists that killed cops.

    You people want to act all offended because Trump is crasp oh well boo freakin hoo. Clinton was and is a Rapist, his wife sold her office to the highest bidder and Obama was a Commie/Fascist.

    So if you are embarrassed by us electing a Carney like I said tooo bad. 3 and 1/2 years to go ladies buckle up and deal with it…. we had to for 8.

  125. REMEMBER THE GREEN!

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