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SHAMNESTY INTERNATIONAL….

By ATWadmin On January 12th, 2007

795151-629090-thumbnail.jpgIt is my contention that Amnesty International has morphed into a despicable pro-terror anti-american ragbag far-left collective, despite it’s lofty aspirations to occupy a high moral ground. As far as I can determine, most of the comrades in Amnesty lack a clear moral compass, which might just explain why….

On Thursday, January 11, 2007, there was a demonstration at the US Consulatein Belfast. Amnesty International is organizing a worldwide day of action to close Guantanamo Bay and Belfast is on their list of U.S. Government Facilities targeted for demonstration.  Amnesty International is encouraging protesters to wear orange boiler suits and some may wear U.S. style military fatigues. The PSNI has received no formal petition for this demonstration; information was gathered from the Amnesty International Web Site.

Anyone remember Amnesty International organising demos against the slaughter of Kurds, Marsh Arabs, Iraqi dissenters or New Yorkers or Londoners, Bali night clubbers, East Africa Embassy workers, Kuwaitis, etc. etc. ? Nope? Me neither.

22 Responses to “SHAMNESTY INTERNATIONAL….”

  1. When Amnesty first began campaigning, they were an organisation worth both listening to and supporting, because they espoused both people and themes which echoed off the sounding-board of public awareness!

    Unfortunately, they have been captured by a combination of lefty hard-liners, people who see no good coming from any action of the whole American Government, and the usual suspects and discards from the protest industry!

    As with the United Nations, they have become a perverted mockery of the good intentions which formed those two institutions, and no doubt they will naturally fade away; but unfortunately not just yet!

  2. Amnesty had the perfect opportunity to use Nazanins court proceedings in recent days, which were met with large nos of supporters and press, to garner more support for the other young people currently awaiting trial and death sentences in Iran. The case has garnered support and is a far far worse abuse of human rights than Guantanamo will ever be. That they are using this to essentially leverage their own profile is more than a pity is it shameful. The situation is Guantanamo has had more than enough limelight on it. Nazanins case has proven in recent days – there is popular support from left and right for the plight of these far more oppressed and desperate individuals and they would do well to turning their attention to this in a huge way.

  3. No one has yet indicated to me what they think should happen to the inmates of Gitmo should it be forced, by public and left wing opinion, to close. Surely not all the inmates were attending weddings in combat zones when they were captured. In reality, there are some very dangerous people being held there. Should the Americans just let them all go so that they can once again take up arms?

  4. While I am concerned that not every prisoner in Gitmo is there for a valid reason, and I have indicated that all the prisoners there should be given speedy trials, and have noted that the continued obstinance of the Bush administration in this regard creates propoganda opportunities like this one, I can’t help but feeling that in this case Amnesty International is revealing a bit of an agenda that goes against its intial charter. There are a few hundred priosners in Gitmo. There are millions of people in a virtual priosn in North Korea. Where is the world wide protest for those people?

  5. Perhaps we can agree that whilst Amnesty, like the UN, started out with admirable ideals, these have become corrupted and now both organisations end up supporting the very things they were established to oppose. It’s a fallen world we live in, folks.

  6. David,

    Does "started out with admirable ideals, these have become corrupted" also apply to the DUP?

  7. David (and others), with respect I think you’re being unfair. I just visited the Amnesty website and looked at their current campaigns.

    They include: Stop violence against women, Control Arms, Stop Torture, The Death Penalty, Poverty and human rights , Human rights defenders, Refugees and Migrants, The Internet and Human Rights, Economic globalization and human rights, International Justice, Child soldiers.


    Most if not all of those seem like pretty good causes to me. And if A.I. folds, who you gonna call when things turn mean and nasty?

    I would not wish this on anybody, but the day may come when you’ll regret you bad-mouthed these people, and you need their help.

  8. Ed – I would agree that Amnesty International still has value and of course independent sources are to be encouraged. I suppose my criticism is not of their existence (which I support) but rather of their empahsis.

  9. Alan,

    Yes.

    Ed,

    AI are a disgrace in recent years – last time I met their local leader, he had a Camp Gitmo detainee with him.

    Mahons,

    My criticism is of their existence.

  10. >>There are millions of people in a virtual priosn in North Korea. Where is the world wide protest for those people<<

    mahons, amnesty conducts campaigns for those unjustly imprisoned in EVERY country of the world.
    The methodss used are naturally different for the different countries, however As it is, the strongest voices in the world, foreign governments with real economic and political clout and the United Nations, regularly protest against conditions in, say, North Korea. Unfortunately it does little good, and it would therefore obviously do absolutely no good at all if the citizens of those countries were to stage demonstrations, etc. in support of their governments’ protests.
    Amnesty would be simply wasting its time and resources, and everyone knows that.

    With Guatanamo, however, and a host of other causes involving "western" countries, it could make a small difference. as the governments there are elected and generally sensitive to public opinion.

    But as I said at the start, a.i. does conduct – different – campaigns for thousands of forgotten prisoners in hundreds of countries in the world, including North Korea. They only conduct public campains when such are likely to do more good than harm.

  11. David – too funny. I suppose they shouldn’t think your annual Christams contribution is merely delayed.

    Cunningham – I think they would have more moral credibility if the placed their emphasis on the more critical situations.

  12. mahons, a.i. is not so much concerned about moral credibility or its image as with achieving results.

    You know as well as I do that it would have absolutely zero effect from campaigning against conditions in such places as North Korea. In fact, it would probaly have a negative effect. It would certainly make the organisation look foolish.

    I was very pleased when Amnesty shone a very critical light on conditions in Irish prisons and highlighted some very serious miscarriages of justice in my country. The cause of justice can use every help it can get. You should also be pleased when it tries to stop injustices in yours.

  13. Cunningham: I don’t mind if it does try to point out injustices in the U.S. No problem from me there. I do think that morla credibility is hos success is achieved. If Amnesty focused attention where it is really needed, it would help them everywhere.

  14. Tell me where attention is needed and where it would make a differnce and where amnesty does not provide it,

  15. You aren’t reading what I wrote. I didn’t say they weren’t paying attention, I was saying that their emphasis and focus is on lesser problems.

  16. OK, (sigh) tell me where attention should be focussed and where it would make a differnce and where amnesty does not focuss it.

  17. Cunningham – I don’t recall a worldwide day of action regarding North Korea, China, Iran or Syria.

    In addition, I was in Galway City two weeks ago and the Pub I was in actually stopped serving after last call. Not one pip from Amnesty!

    Moreover, I was imprisoned in Madison Square Garden for three hours in 1975 and forced to watch Ice Capades. Where were they then?

  18. Oh vey, I already spent too much of my time telling you that, for quite obvious reasons, a campaign by a western human rights organisation would have absolutely no effect on the places you mention.

    Do you remember during the Cold War those terrible motions of censure passed by the Ukrainian trade union congress against inequality in the US? I’m sure you’ll never forget how embarrassing they were, and how the good people of NY as a result strove to do better!

    BTW. I used to be a member of Amnesty (as you may have guessed) and we used to be "trained" for debate with unbelievers like David etc. In one leaflet there was related a scene from a US criminal court, where the accused was to be sentenced to death for murder. He pleased adverse circumstances beyond his control, with words to the effect: "How can you sentence me to death? You were never in my position. I am a product of and trapped in my circumstances"
    To which the judge replied: "I am sure. But so am I, and that’s why I’m now going to sentence you to death!"

    This was presented as a true scene (warning us against using that argument). Have you ever heard of such an exchange?

  19. = He pleaDed adverse circumstances

  20. Cunningham- Take it from a New Yorker, it is "Oi Vey". Your first wife is rolling in her grave – wherever you buried the body.

    I disagree with you on the success of such a campaign. We’ll have to leave it at that.

  21. Cunnigham – Sorry, missed the punch line before I responded. Enjoy the weekend.

  22. Quite right, Amnesty has failed to back America’s position on the axis of evil and other satanic countries and instead has backed their position on the United States of America. Remind me to hack their website.