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By The Troll On April 21st, 2017

lets see if this works……..

Santana – Smooth ft. Rob Thomas

Santana’s official music video for ‘Smooth’ ft. Rob Thomas. Click to listen to Santana on Spotify: http://smarturl.it/SanSpot?IQid=SanSmooth As featured on Ultimate Santana. Click to buy the track or album via iTunes: http://smarturl.it/UltSaniTunes?IQid=SanSmooth Google Play: http://smarturl.it/SanSmoothPlay?IQid=SanSmooth Amazon: http://smarturl.it/UltSanAmz?IQid=SanSmooth More from Santana Into The Night ft. Chad Kroeger: https://youtu.be/fQ9nQNx0KEs Maria Maria ft.

this is bull !
Will everyone with posting rights please try to post an embedded video from youtube….

I need to see if it’s just me or if the settings somehow changed so that David as the site owner is the only one who can post video.
Sorry Folks

214 Responses to “vid test”

  1. Still doesn’t work for me.

  2. no something changed…..

    I’ve tried 5 different ways to embed video and none are working….

    Thanks Pete

  3. Let’s hope this “problem” continues for a long, long time.

    The vast majority of videos posted here are pointless, unwatchable and a total waste of time. David’s “vlog” statements are an exception; everything else is rubbish and should be kept off ATW.

    People should (at least try to) present their views on political and social issues in writing. All those videos are just a self-indulgent monument to the poster’s vanity.

    Give us all a break and keep them for yourselves.

  4. no one asked you Noel, and no one cares about your opinion.

    Why don’t you do us all a favor you terror loving little freak and keep your views to YOURSELF!

  5. I tried to do a workaround using the [embed] html command but it didn’t work.

    It worked two weeks ago, something changed.

  6. yeah I’ve tried multiple html methods and the html actually disappears…..

  7. and keep your views to YOURSELF!

    And try and apologising when you have scored a spectacular own goal.

    What is it with Liberals, and apologising?

    It’s not the end of the world, and it’s really not that difficult.

    A tad embarrassing granted, but it won’t kill ya 😉

    Harri, on April 11th, 2017 at 7:47 PM Said:

    Reality could just have surfaced again in Germany.

    BREAKING: Borussia Dortmund attack as THREE BOMBS explode near team bus – player injured

    A FOOTBALL player has been injured after three bombs exploded near Borussia Dortmund’s team bus ahead of a Champions League match against Monaco.

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/790726/Borussia-Dortmund-explosion-bus-Champions-League-Monaco-Germany

    Harri, on April 11th, 2017 at 7:51 PM Said:

    Somehow I can’t see this being an Islamic attack.

    No-one was maimed, or blown to pieces.

    And one thing Islam is very, very good at, and that is killing people.

    Colm, on April 11th, 2017 at 8:10 PM Said:

    It will probably turn out to be firecrackers and a burst tyre. Breaking News often turns out to be overhyped news

  8. Troll, nobody cares about your videos, the majority of which – at least years ago when I used to look at time – show just your Walter-Mitty type fantasies of being strong and important and your identification with those oh-so-strong men actors, which in turn reveals only how hollow, mean and meaningless your own life is.

    You’d be doing yourself a favour by omitting them. You’d be doing your suffering family a favour if you stopped writing here; it’s obviously bad for your health, and at least some of the time you spend here could be used to in some simple (very simple) employment, so they wouldn’t have to work so much for you.

    But I was yesterday on the bay of Trieste, surely one of the grandest sights in Europe, and am feeling a bit too mellow for a row.

  9. But I was yesterday on the bay of Trieste, surely one of the grandest sights in Europe, and am feeling a bit too mellow for a row.

    Ah, I will put your incorrect assumption, and attempt at belittling, down to tiredness then 😉

  10. I give up

    All the ( apparent ) coding that worked in the past and which still works now ( old video posts still work )do not work now

    There must be a new defect that kicks in as the post is being created.

  11. yeah it’s bizarre

  12. I even took an old post that still worked changed only the video the date not the html and it it didn’t work….

    something changed right when David started his youtube channel.

  13. Harri, I certainly didn’t, and would never, “belittle” you.
    But you clearly did assume that the Dortmund attack was by Islamists (as did many others, including me), and it’s pointless denying that now.

    The post was called “Reality hits Sweden”, and was about how Muslim immigrants are causing problems. You then commented with “Reality could just have surfaced again in Germany”, referring to the Dortmund attack and thus putting it clearly in the context of Islamist/Muslim trouble.
    Later you were delighted to reveal that the police are suspecting Islamists for the attack.

    As you, and we all, were at the time.

    But people can judge for themselves: Here’s the thread

    http://www.atangledweb.org/?p=67997#comments

    //The Troll, on April 21st, 2017 at 1:38 PM Said:

    yeah I’ve tried multiple html methods and the html actually disappears…..//

    Hurrah!

  14. Noel

    I don’t care what you think on ANYTHING let alone my music… this is a technical post to those of us that use this feature.

    As for your bubblegum analysis…. stick it up your ass you little scumbag.

    Your Heroes are men that kill woman children and civilians, you’re scum.

    How’s that?

  15. I didn’t know that David has a Youtube channel

  16. Perfect example of why Noel is scum.

    Here is a post directed at the People who can create posts… no politics, no nothing except insiders trying to work around a new glitch….

    But

    Noel comes on and picks a fight….. is obnoxious….. and does his best to create turmoil.

    You’re a piece of crap Noel.

  17. Yes David started a youtube channel.

    It has more videos than he posts here.

  18. Ah

    David’s youtube channel

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoN0WxmLAL1-Rc0c7cnDpxw

  19. Troll, if you have the time to post so much on ATW and to go around worrying your tiny mind about things like blogging technicalities, you also have enough time to be a man for once in your life and work from your computer at home to make a bit of money.

    I know, I know: it’d be hard to find someone crazy enough to trust you with any job, but you could at least try, instead of mickey-mousing around here with those video things.

    Think about it.

  20. The Troll, on April 21st, 2017 at 1:54 PM Said:

    stick it up your ass you little scumbag.

    Troll I’m not calling for a ban, but I think you should be sin-binned till Monday
    and if you do it again, the next sin-binning extends to a week
    that’s how to deal with you , what you have written is simply unacceptable on ATW
    Who agrees/disagree with that?

  21. Noel

    Harri just rolls his eyes… and sighs 😉

  22. Jude stay out of it.

  23. Troll, everyday you are rude to Daphne, every week to paulmcmahon/mahons/phantom, now Noel
    Unless you get reined in , I’m commenting less and less , period !

  24. Noel

    I’m not discussing my situation on this site because of scum like you, daphne and others…..

    Now I have asked you nicely, I’ve asked you rudely, and I’ll ask you again….

    Please behave yourself, Please don’t comment on my threads, and Please stop being obnoxious to others.

  25. Jude GOOD!

    I’m not rude to Daphne I ignore her the only time I commented to her in the last 6 months was when she commented to me or about me.

    As for Paul and Seimi I NEVER throw the first punch.

    Mahons/Phantom are Americans who yes I do go out of my way to screw with because I respect them both, and being american NYrs can take it… You wimps across the pond are just that…. thin skinned little wimps.

    Now this post had nothing to do with anything that concerned any of you except those of us that deal with the technical side of the site….

    Yet scum interjected themselves into the conversation OFF TOPIC and just to create a Problem. A trend that started with the three stooges arrival.

    so bugger off!

  26. Phantom

    I have started my own Youtube and it can be found here for those interested! I do not intend to post every video here but the odd one seems ok!
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoN0WxmLAL1-Rc0c7cnDpxw

  27. David

    You are truly ” the king of all media “ now

    ( title stolen from shock jock Howard Stern )

  28. Only on ATW would a post about HTML issues descend into childish bickering and aspersions being cast about people’s lives and families. 😆

  29. Petr Tarasov, on April 21st, 2017 at 6:33 PM Said:
    Only on ATW would a post about HTML issues descend into childish bickering and aspersions being cast about people’s lives and families. 😆

    Says Wolfie the peoples revolutionary feminist, who spent half his time slagging off my immigrant wife, and daughters 😉

  30. Only on ATW would a post about HTML issues descend into childish bickering and aspersions being cast about people’s lives and families.

    It was started by an Irishman.

    As usual.

  31. NO he’s not an Irishman… he lives in Germany like it or not he’s s German of Irish Decent, and it doesn’t matter what his passport says what matters is where you LIVE FULL TIME.

  32. It was started by an Irishman.
    As usual.

    And finished by an Englishman.

    History always repeats itself.

  33. Troll

    Germany is obviously, a far better place to live, than Ireland, and far cheaper too.

    And, Germany owes the EU far less money, so, their arses will remain strictly. German, unlike the Brussels Irish serfs.

    Celtic tigers my arse.

    You have new masters now.

  34. NO he’s not an Irishman… he lives in Germany like it or not he’s s German of Irish Decent, and it doesn’t matter what his passport says what matters is where you LIVE FULL TIME.

    A stupid comment.

  35. it’s not stupid it’s a fact if you live in any country full time that’s what you are.

  36. Not true

    You could live in Japan for fifty years and not one local would think that you were Japanese

    And you never would be Japanese, they would be correct.

  37. I lived full time in Rome. I wasn’t Italian. My mother has lived full time in England for decades. She’s still Irish.

    You are what you are, wherever you are.

  38. it’s not stupid it’s a fact if you live in any country full time that’s what you are.

    Troll’s just thinking like an American here. That’s the way it is in the States. You’re here a certain amount of time and you blend in and become an American, legal or not.. in a way that would never happen in Japan.

  39. Charles –

    I know. Troll’s parochial like that. He needs to cross the county line sometime.

  40. Just for the record, the video works for me

  41. Patty

    Are you able to create a new post with the video embedded into it?

  42. Patty try making a post with a youtube video in it.

  43. Ok so Noel is an Irishman he lives in Germany, he works in Germany, his kids go to school in Germany….. but he’s Irish…….

    I’m not talking what is on his passport. He’s German because that’s where he lives, works and raises his family.

    Japan probably culturally the most racist nation on the Planet is what you use as an example… if you live in Japan work in Japan, raise your family in Japan you are Japanese even if the Japanese call you Gaijin.

    Personally I don’t care if he’s Irish, British, German. Italian, or American.

    What I care about is that he is a piece of crap that goes out of his way to create hostility.

  44. The Japanese aren’t racist here at all

    No Asian – Vietnamese, Korean, Chinese, Indian – would regard a white or black.American who moved there to be one of their own people, even if they lived there for 50 years.

    What in the universe is wrong with that?

  45. as for the video glich I don’t know what David did but now there is video in this post…..

    Thank You

    Hopefully we can all duplicate it…..

  46. it’s racist

  47. The Troll – over and over again – “I never throw the first punch.”

    The Troll, on April 21st, 2017 at 1:32 PM Said:
    no one asked you Noel, and no one cares about your opinion.
    Why don’t you do us all a favor you terror loving little freak and keep your views to YOURSELF!

    On the subject of music videos – I disagree with Noel on this. It’s nice to have a little break from the anti-Muslim/black/gay/Euro bile that ATW churns out day after day. However, I do agree with him when that poison seeps into the music videos and we are forced to listen to trashy C&W ball-bags warble on about how great their cannon fodder is the bestest at killing children around the world. I already know the USA love to murder innocent children – I don’t need the musical version.

  48. well then I find a good song of bout Irish purposefully killing children just for you Seimi…..

    I would do Sunday bloody Sunday but the last time the IRA supporters were to stupid to get the joke…. it’s a song about the brits atrocity except it was set to clips of death and destruction of the IRA the inbreds missed the joke.

  49. and as you see Seimi Moe of the three stooges infers that by responding to Noel I was throwing the first punch here….. but just as his inbred comment about what the music I post was about was a punch thrown he’s also to genetically insuficient to grasp that A RESPONSE to Noel butting into something and being RUDE was a first punch so was it your father that married his sister that created you Seimi…. or just NO variety in your gene pool????

    Once again the IRA Scum have turned another post into an insult fest well we’ve heard from Moe and Larry I’m sure Curly won’t be far behind…..

  50. So not a word then about ‘I never throw the first punch’? Thought so.

    Post as many videos as you like, Troll. Most people in Ireland are fully aware of the atrocities carried out in this country, and beyond, in the past. Many of us also recognize and remember the cause for which many people fought and died. These two facts are separate, and where they cross, decent people condemned them. That does not make the atrocities any more acceptable, nor the cause any less unjust.

    Most intelligent people understand this.

    Do you?

  51. and as you see Seimi Moe of the three stooges infers that by responding to Noel I was throwing the first punch here….. but just as his inbred comment about what the music I post was about was a punch thrown he’s also to genetically insuficient to grasp that A RESPONSE to Noel butting into something and being RUDE was a first punch so was it your father that married his sister that created you Seimi…. or just NO variety in your gene pool????
    Once again the IRA Scum have turned another post into an insult fest well we’ve heard from Moe and Larry I’m sure Curly won’t be far behind…..

    As is obvious from the above post, the answer is no.

    What is also obvious is Troll’s pathetic, sycophantic attempts at getting back on David’s side, after his complete breakdown and volley of abuse and insults, and his deleting of entire threads, is reaching fever pitch.

    More insanity will surely ensue…

  52. Troll, you have made extremely defammatory statements about myself and my family. I am seriously considering either taking this up with the owner of this site, or seeking legal advice.

    Do you withdraw your statements, or shall I take this further?

  53. Please Seimi please do……

    I didn’t seek you out, I didn’t throw the first punch. I’ve asked you and your two brethren repeatedly OVER and OVER not to engage with me, not to talk about me etc etc

    Everytime it’s been the same response F you from the three of you.

    If you want to complain about me go right ahead… get in line. The poor man has been listening to complaints about me for over 16 years….

    Or you could act like a man, which you are NOT.

    You throw slimy little comments and remarks and play your little games, but just like the people you worship you lack the Balls to stand toe to toe…..

    Now go ahead whine to Daddy oh the mean man in America calls us foul names and says our daddy married his sister … boo hoo protect us Daddy he’s to far away to plant a bomb in his house…..

    Wimp

  54. Troll the embedded video works.

  55. Okay, Troll, I’ll take the bait.

    Are you saying that you – against all previous evidence – will be able to engage in an open and honest debate, about the Troubles?

    Now – you have got to understand – that this debate will include many, many issues. You may not understand some of them. You may not agree with many of them. But if you agree to this, you will actually read what is written, and attempt to debate them in a civilized way?

    Do you think you can do that? Without your customary name-calling and abusive behavior?

    Let me know.

    To be honest, I don’t think you have the balls for it. Then again, I don’t think you have a pair anyway.

    Prove me wrong. Open a thread.

    BUT – You answer ALL my questions, and I answer all yours. No matter what anyone else distracts us with – we talk to each other.

    And at the end of it – no matter how long it takes – there will be no winner – fuck knows, we haven’t got one here – one of us must agree that they have changed their view, even slightly.

    Agreed?

  56. yeah Dave, David fixed it….

  57. ahhh a challenge….

    It might be fun.

    It might also be a nightmare. I have made a promise to cut the three of you a break.

    It still might be worth it, but to what end? I know your positions and you know mine. I will NEVER flinch or budge and I don’t think you would either.

    So would it be worth breaking my word to engage in this debate?

  58. Troll,

    Stop acting as if you’re some huge intellectual – you’re not.

    And don’t put yourself on any moral pedestal – you don’t deserve to be there.

    In terms of the troubles in Ireland, you are an intellectual pygmy. Are you willing to learn?

    Do you agree to the terms I set out?

  59. By the way – the title of your thread should not be in any way derogatory.

    AND – you must agree not to delete it. There have been too many threads deleted recently, because their content got too embarrassing/truthful for the host.

  60. No Seimi I’m not willing to learn, at least not from you or anyone who thinks like you.

    You can deride me, my intellect, my spirituality anything you chose.

    If it makes you feel better or superior in some way enjoy it.

    You are in no way worth breaking my word. Now you can take what I’m saying and comment anyway you choose about it. I give you a free pass.

    After you do I ask again.

    There are 5 of you. You know who you are.

    I will not start any conversations with any of you, I will not mention any of you, I will not refer to anything any of you say….. Unless

    You do any of the above in regards to me.

  61. threads open…. inbred

  62. Japan probably culturally the most racist nation on the Planet

    Troll, I think you might find, that particular accolade belongs to India.

    The caste system in India has transformed into a racist ideology against it’s own peoples, this caste system is staggeringly racist.

  63. Troll.

    You will do well to try and understand the past troubles in Ireland, I am at an age, where I was bought up during the troubles, my home town was an epicentre for Irish.

    My dear Mother had a boyfriend who was an IRA sympathiser, I was caught up in one bomb scare in London, (after the warning was received) we evacuated the shop, and moments later it was detonated, I spent a few weeks in Dublin and saw the odd car set alight Nr O’connel street.

    Two of my now departed friends were Paras, both completed a few tours of NI, I have heard horror stories from both sides, it drove both of them literally into mental cases.

    The old pub I used to drink in, when I was a council estate urchin, was full of Pro IRA Irish Navvies. And yet, I can, and have always stayed well away from any debates about Ireland’s past troubles, simply because I know, and could never really understand bugger all about it.

  64. I need to see better behaviour from all here. I do not want to read threads where it is all about insults.

  65. Amen David. It’s depressing but so regular. It’s one of the reasons I comment less here. I like good humoured banter and see no reason why people should sink to hateful vitriol. It is no excuse to claim you are responding to someone else or blame others. We have been over this a million times before but some people will never stop . I never will call for bans because I hate that sanction in almost any circumstances, so all I will suggest is to all those who really want to see better behaviour is when you see anyone commenting abusively , just leave the thread and stop commenting on it at all. Maybe that and only that will cease the ugliness we see too often on threads here.

  66. David
    Have a word with Troll then. I want an apology and retraction from him or I take this further.
    And this thread was closed by him earlier this morning.

  67. Colm
    Harri succeeded in getting someone banned – albeit temporarily – over a nothing comment. I and my family have been accused of incest on this thread. Should I just ‘leave the thread’, or not comment?
    Troll is the absolute worst culprit for abusive behaviour here, yet he seems to get away with it constantly, whilst others get told by the host to behave. Why is this? Why does Patrick Van Roy have special dispensation to be an ignorant, arrogant, abusive fool, but everyone else has to follow the rules? You can only sit on the fence for so long on these matters.

  68. Harri succeeded in getting someone banned

    Harri also succeeded to get jude reinstated also.

    As Mahons pointed out “it shows an admirable trait righting a wrong”

  69. Ok Harri, but you did it in the first place.
    And I took Mahons’ comment to refer to David reversing his action, not you. Perhaps I am wrong.
    But Jude was banned for simply implying that you were influenced by a newspaper, whereas I have been called ‘inbred’ now several times, and my father and sister have been accused of incest. I want something done about it. An apology and retraction on this thread will suffice.

  70. Seimi

    Are you referring to the ‘inbred’ reference. That’s not even worth thinking about let alone, ‘taking it further’. Its just a stupid throwaway insult not a serious libel. Yes, for pities sake IGNORE such nonsense. Would you try and attempt a debate with a blind drunk man swearing incoherently in the street, NO, so why do so here. Yes Troll is the one at fault and yes I know reluctantly I will provoke him by saying that. He is the one who always drives threads down with vitriol and is indulged by David in doing so. David has a longer more personal relationship with him than he has with others and its David’s blog and he does not need to be consistent with everyone. This is not a court of law its a private website. I will not condemn David for that. Troll has made it clear there are certain individuals here he will always fight abusively with, you Paul and Noel along with Daphne the ones I can think of. Yes you can choose to respond either nicely or nastily, but it will get you nowhere. This will not stop until others STOP, and you can only do that yourselves by not fueling those fires. There is no other way.

  71. whereas I have been called ‘inbred’ now several times, and my father and sister have been accused of incest.

    I don’t particularly wish to get involved, but I agree, those slurs are disgraceful.

  72. It is absolutely not just the ‘inbred’ references, Colm. As Harri points out above, Troll made claims about members of my family which I will not just ignore.

  73. But Seimi, he doesn’t know you,has never met you or any member of your family or even as far as I know anyone who even knows any member of your family. He might as well accuse you and your family of being drug runners or arms dealers or mass murderers or anything. It is infantile nonsense and you demean yourself by taking it seriously. Laugh it off as the rantings of someone who has no other argument. Life is too short to be bothered by this.

  74. Seimi – he doesn’t know you or your family. I would suggest not worrying about it, he thrives over these exchanges as he literally has nothing better to do.

  75. Harri

    The caste system in India has transformed into a racist ideology against it’s own peoples, this caste system is staggeringly racist.

    Out of the selected countries I’ve visited I found India, South Africa and Poland to be the most racist.

  76. Colm
    I do usually read what you write here and take it as wise counsel. However, only a week ago, David banned someone for far less than what Troll wrote about my family.
    Now, before anyone starts crying, I am not calling for a ban. I want an apology and a retraction from Troll. I don’t make personal comments about anyone’s family here, and I expect the same courtesy from others. That really isn’t much to ask, but the longer this is left unchecked, the more brash and unrepentant Troll becomes, and I’m not happy with that.

  77. Seimi, Colm.

    Good day gentleman.
    Seimi, you are right of course about David’s bias on this site. In all the years I’ve been popping in here it’s always been the same. Certain people are allowed to get away with behaviour that others are reprimanded or banned for. It’s not fair I agree but then ATW has never claimed to be.
    I tend to ignore the insults and childish behaviour of certain people on here. At the end of the day, it’s just an insignificant forum, really not worth getting upset over.
    I balance the bad with the good, like the fact that some really nice and knowledgeable people post on here. Which is the reason I’ve stuck around as long as I have.
    The people who hurl nasty insults on here, are probably more to be pitied than anything else. If their lives are so sad, that they have to come onto a forum and insult others to make themselves feel better, then they’re the ones with the problem.
    Anyway that’s just my opinion, I’m not claiming to be an expert on these things.

  78. ahhh the outrage…. I made comments about your family and for that you want me banned,,,,,,

    Well Sunny you were involved in making Mike C Leave with the two woman. You egged them on, You also stood by and spewed no outrage when those two then accused my wife of faking cancer and that David, I, and her were frauds and conmen…….

    So please spare me your faux outrage…. and the thread was never closed.

    The thread was also a technical thread for those of us that post but was brought in another direction by Noel and You.

    Colm I could never be mad at you. Please comment more we need you here.

    Seimi I will NEVER apologize to you, I’m glad such a soft insult hit you so hard.

    It has been said over and over that I Patrick Michael Van Roy …. just in case you want my middle name Seimi should I throw in my confirmation name also it’s William there how’s that…. If you want my home address to send some of your friends over let me know I’ll post it…..

    As I was saying I get the blame, that’s fine. I’ll take it.

    We have had heard from the master of the House AGAIN he has let his feelings on the subject be heard loud and clear Here: in case you missed it….

    David Vance, on April 22nd, 2017 at 9:03 AM Said: Edit Comment

    I need to see better behavior from all here. I do not want to read threads where it is all about insults.

    Now you can say other wise, but I have not started anything in a very long time. My attacks are always a counter punch. Except to Phantom and Mahons those two I will poke at just to get a reaction, but as American Men they can take it unlike you and your friends.

    I will repeat a promise I made in private with others on here. I gladly make it public.

    There are 5 of you. You know who you are.

    I will not start any conversations with any of you, I will not mention any of you, I will not refer to anything any of you say….. Unless

    You do any of the above in regards to me.

    I think that is rather simple to understand.

    So please please blame it all on me if it makes you happy or satisfies some twisted little part of you.

    But to everyone else I ask you to review this thread.

    This thread was put up to try and get a technical glitch worked out…..

    How did it get changed?

  79. Its all in the ‘unless’.

    We are each responsible only for what we individually type. We cannot control what others write and cannot blame them for ‘provoking’ a response. That ‘unless’ caveat renders your promise meaningless Troll, because you have given yourself a get out clause. The same goes for all others who say they are only responding to you. Each of us here can respect David’s wishes or abuse our positions here by ignoring them but NONE of us can blame others for the way we choose to comment.

  80. Out of the selected countries I’ve visited I found India, South Africa and Poland to be the most racist.

    Poland, yes, the same as most eastern European countries, they are inherently racist, India, even Indian folk will admit that, South Africa, I have never been to, but have work colleagues who have drawn the short straw, and say the exact same thing.

  81. So if the Poles are so terribly horribly racist, then its best that ” migrants ” stay the f*** out of there so that they won’t by it

    Everybody wins

  82. So that they won’t be harmed by it

  83. So it’ll be the usual then? Troll, for whatever reason, has carte blanche to say what he likes about whoever, but everyone else must behave? Fine.
    By the way, Troll – I had nothinhg to do with Cunningham leaving this site. I asked him directly if he had asked his wife’s permission before posting a photo of her on the site. That was all, as I know my own partner would have been furious had I done the same without her permission.
    Also – despite what lies you may tell here, I have been amongst the most vocal in defending you and your family circumstances when others have raised it.
    Now – what you wrote about me, I can take and laugh off. I rarely, if ever, take what you write personally. But you wrote about my family, and that is different. The fact that you won’t apologise for it shows just what type of a cunt you are.
    I am formally asking David to ban me from this site, because until you apologise and retract what you wrote about my father and my sister, I will hound you in every post and call you out for the cunt you are.

  84. no it doesn’t Colm….

    Be serious if others attack me, insult me or ridicule me I’m not going to just sit here and not defend myself. I don’t pretend to be a saint.

    It is your opinion that no matter how I’m attacked I should walk away…. I won’t do that.

    I will however NOT throw the first punch. I gladly would task you at anytime forward to be Judge.

    That UNLESS is a statement of fact of warning that I will defend myself. My name is not Gandhi.

  85. Yes but Poles are happy to emigrate in large numbers elsewhere for a better life as they have done in the UK, so why should they not accept immigration in return ?

  86. Troll and Seimi

    I think sadly it is clear you are not willing to respect David’s wishes and view fuelling your respective animosities as more important than obeying David’s request. There is nothing more I can really say on this matter.

  87. The Poles have been excellent, superb, hard working admirable citizens in the United States, Canada, Australia, and I don’t think I’ve heard any of you English or Irish say that they’ve been any particular problem in your countries, The Poles are hard working and compatible – more of them should move here.

    The so-called migration that we see now has zero in common with any Polish immigration. It includes many that are disrespectful, hostile, and from cultures that are very incompatible

    Please don’t anyone insult anyone else’s intelligence by comparing Polish immigration with the horrifying catastrophe of the Merkel Mobs

  88. Seimi once again I am not allowed to get away with anything.

    I don’t start these brawls.

    You egged the ladies on that’s how Mike saw it, that’s how I saw it.

    I am formally asking David to ban me from this site, because until you apologise and retract what you wrote about my father and my sister, I will hound you in every post and call you out for the cunt you are.

    Oh please do, David won’t ban you if you ask him he will ask you to show self control… which you can’t.

    So please go right on, continue to prove my point.

  89. Colm

    If you think that all migrants are equal in any way, then please expel all your Poles this week and send them to New York City

    And then replace them with a bunch of some Somalia and Yemeni ” migrants ”

    See if you notice the difference

  90. Troll never throws the first punch though colm , so he’s in the clear, right?

  91. Sorry to hear that Colm.

    My promise fulfills his wish, Seimi’s threat spits in his eye.

    I respect your view and opinion Colm always have. You don’t pick sides for the sake of picking sides.

  92. Colm –

    Yes but Poles are happy to emigrate in large numbers elsewhere for a better life as they have done in the UK, so why should they not accept immigration in return ?

    It does. Poland and the UK have reciprocal immigration policies. What Poland refuses to accept is the “bloody harvest” of multiculturalism, as Poland’s interior minister described it this week.

    And why should they? Why should Poles accept the rape of their wives and women by aliens imposed on them? Why should they accept the shanty towns and welfare costs? Why should they accept Poland becoming less Polish?

    Yes, Poles are relatively racist, and it’s a beautiful thing. Beautiful, uplifting racism will keep Poland Polish, preserve their culture for their children and keep their womenfolk safe.

  93. Poland, yes, the same as most eastern European countries, they are inherently racist,

    I’ve only been to Poland in Eastern Europe but I have heard that many other Eastern European countries are just as racist.
    The racism in Poland, especially the anti-semitism was quite surprising really.

    So if the Poles are so terribly horribly racist, then its best that ” migrants ” stay the f*** out of there so that they won’t [be harmed] by it

    By the looks of things, this is the policy Poland is operating at the moment anyway Phantom.

    Yes but Poles are happy to emigrate in large numbers elsewhere for a better life as they have done in the UK, so why should they not accept immigration in return ?

    I totally agree Colm, the polls are hypocritical bastards. They were like that when I worked there. Always quick to blame others, but not so quick to accept blame themselves.

  94. Phantom

    I never said all immigrants have the same work ethics or that all peoples behave the same. It is perfectly fine to object to people who abuse or disrespect the hospitality of a host country but to have an objection to ANY foreigners living in your country while insisting on the right to move and work abroad yourself is hypocritical.

  95. If you think that all migrants are equal in any way, then please expel all your Poles this week and send them to New York City

    Does that mean, I will have to wash the car myself 😉

  96. You have Poles washing your car ? How posh ! In most of the rest of the country its the Romanians who do that job 😉

  97. I bet you a dollar that there are foreigners and immigrants living in Poland as we speak

    The issue is with this hugelydestructive migration brought upon by Markel and her human trafficking buddies

    The Poles don’t want for Warsaw and Krakow to burn the way that you will allow for London and Paris to burn. How ” racist ” of them

  98. The racism in Poland, especially the anti-semitism was quite surprising really.

    On this I have never done any historical research, but apparently, it’s true, when the Jews, and the Roma were escaping the Nazis, they fled, and were given ‘Safe haven’ by the Slovaks, (then the Czechoslovakians), when the Nazis reached the Baltics, the Czechoslovakians sold them back to the Nazis.

  99. It’s not only washing the cars Colm, since eastern European women have been flooding into Luton, the class of prostitute has gone up several levels. (no, not all eastern European women) just the ones me mates know 😉

    As for Romanians, the same can be said for them, only they specialize in stealing, housebreaking, scams and fraud.

    In fact, they make Nigerians look like rank amateurs.

  100. as I said……

    This was a technical post.

    What changed it’s direction? 2 of the 5…. and yes I responded.

    David was going to modify and create a new site to replace this one. I doubt that will ever happen. Why should he waste his time and money.

    There are only two American Conservatives on this site. We share a view of things with you that none of you outside the US get to see or hear. Both of us are attacked relentlessly.

    We both defend ourselves with ferocity.

    You don’t have to engage with either of us, there are long periods where we don’t talk to each other. I know I have said things that piss her off…. I’m not always sure what they are, but most of the time I am.

    None of you have to engage with me.

    I am a Right Wing Constitutional Conservative. I have worked for the Republican Party my whole life. I’ve held both appointed and elected very minor offices in my local government.

    I offer a view of events from a perspective that you will NEVER see in the Foreign Press and unless you are a radiophile and tune into Limbaugh and Levin will never hear it from the American Press…. yes I am what I am…. I’m Popeye! and Constitutional Conservativism is my Spinach.

    I am going to continue to share my views on American and World politics as long as David allows me. I hope some of you will if not enjoy it at least read it. My views are echos of a group of Americans that are very important and they are sentiments that you need to be aware of.

    Know thy Enemy.

  101. Troll

    You are not a conservative

    You are a militarist-a tool of the military industrial complex – and militarism is absolutely incompatible with conservatism

  102. I am a Right Wing Constitutional Conservative. I have worked for the Republican Party my whole life

    And just where has it got you Troll?

  103. The Republican Party is not a conservative party

    It is part of the problem

  104. Harri I never did it to get anything, and I always refused any job that would pay a salary. It’s called SERVICE.

    Phantom you are right they are not a Conservative Party which is why after the McCain Nomination and subsequent failure I resigned my positions and changed my registration to Independent.

    In the last week I changed it back to Republican. I was asked to by people in the Party that I care about. I doubt that I will add anything other than another conservative voice. I’m to ill to run for Judge even unopposed. I am however very capable of attending Party meetings.

  105. Harri I never did it to get anything, and I always refused any job that would pay a salary. It’s called SERVICE.

    It’s called serfdom.

  106. Phantom, on April 22nd, 2017 at 3:15 PM Said: Edit Comment

    Troll

    You are not a conservative

    You are a militarist-a tool of the military industrial complex – and militarism is absolutely incompatible with conservatism

    LOL thank you for the laugh……

    What you call militarism is a necessary evil.

  107. It’s called serfdom.

    no serfdom you don’t have a choice….. I choose to serve.

  108. What you call militarism is a necessary evil.

    In fact the top 1% insist on it.

  109. It is not possible to be both a militarist/interventionist and a conservative

    They are opposite point of view

    On foreign policy matters, you are far closer to the position of the interventionist Hillary Clinton that you are to any conservative position

    There were no major party conservative candidates in the last presidential election. Neither Hillary Clinton nor Donald Trump are conservatives – Trump holds one conservative position ( on opposing illegal immigration ) but that’s basically it

  110. It’s a matter of view and Perspective Harri.

    I serve because it is an honor and a duty to do so.

    Just like this easter I gave my time helping those that are doing worse than me. Should I expect payment for that? I certainly could use it, but wouldn’t have accepted it if it was offered.

    That’s not how I was raised.

    We Serve God, Family, Law and Community.

    It is the right thing to do because we are Human, not for praise or fortune.

  111. Harri

    I don’t think that militarism is a ” 1% ” issue

    Endless US military adventures have harmed the power and prosperity of the US. Some defense contractors benefit by the endless spend, few others do. Including the rich

  112. No Phantom you are confusing Isolationism and Libertarianism with Conservatism.

    Also I didn’t vote for the conservative….. he came in second in the nomination process. I voted for the Person who wasn’t Hillary.

    Might doesn’t make right Phantom, but might protects Freedom and Justice.

  113. All very admirable Troll.

    But, family, bread on table, roof over heads, and health comes first.

  114. I am entirely for a robust military but I oppose the endless interventions, want waste to be cut and want aid to Israel to be cut sharply – Israelis pay lower tax than I do and I pay for their defense

    We are spending too much, and often for the wrong things

  115. The world is a dangerous place. We have maniacs killing random civilians in the name of their God People that want to oppress others with their religious views.

    They won’t be reasoned with, and they pose a threat. To eliminate that threat takes violence and death so that others may live in peace and freedom.

  116. Apologise, Troll, and retract what you said about my father and my sister.

  117. Phantom, on April 22nd, 2017 at 2:23 PM Said:

    So if the Poles are so terribly horribly racist, then its best that ” migrants ” stay the f*** out of there so that they won’t by it

    Everybody wins

    And just to make it really fair, all the Poles living/working in other EU countries get sent back to Poland. Fair?

  118. family, bread on table, roof over heads, and health comes first.

    and that is the job of the individual NOT the government.

    We are spending too much, and often for the wrong things

    I agree, but what you consider the wrong things and what I consider the wrong things I believe vary greatly in few areas.

  119. You know what really gets to me? No? 🙂

    Well, it’s not Brexit. And it’s not Obama moving back to Washington DC to heckle President Trump.

    Here it is: no one ever defines “conservative.”

    What does “conservative” mean? What are we talking about. People run around claiming to be “conservative” and people run around knocking “conservatives” – but they don’t have any clear consistent idea about what it means to be “conservative.”

  120. and that is the job of the individual NOT the government.

    Precisely, it’s not the government who want to just ‘serve’ and take on any work without a salary.

  121. Petr

    Yes you should deport all your Poles and send them to Brooklyn New York

    They are great hard working people who fit in great and cause very few problems

    You don’t see them blowing up the subway or shooting cops or driving trucks and take huge crowds of people

    Yes I instruct you to send them all here on the first available flights. Terrific idea, thank you.

  122. We should all agree that conservative does not mean right wing militarism, invading and intervening in foreign countries constantly

  123. Yes you should deport all your Poles and send them to Brooklyn New York
    They are great hard working people who fit in great and cause very few problems

    Except for the criminals obviously. Which we have a disproportionate number here in the UK jails. Can we send you that well Phantom?
    Cut this crap about the Poles being hard-working. That are no more or less hard working than the people of the UK, France, Italy, Spain or anywhere else in Europe. Companies in the UK claim this is the reason they employ poles, when the real reason is that they can be paid peanuts and treated badly.

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/659620/Britain-prison-huge-rise-EU-convicts-150million-taxpayer

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/8439117/EU-migrants-commit-500-crimes-a-week-in-UK.html

    More than 54,000 European Union citizens have been convicted of crimes — including murder — in the past two years The Daily Telegraph can disclose.
    Poles and Romanians are the worst offenders according to the figures, adding to concerns over the impact of the two most recent EU expansions.

    Did usual logic here phantom would you like to repeat on a regular basis if we hadn’t allowed any Poles into the UK, then people wouldn’t have been murdered or robbed by them.

    You don’t see them blowing up the subway or shooting cops or driving trucks and take huge crowds of people

    Yeah, and you don’t see 99.9999% of Muslims doing that in the UK either.

  124. Phantom — I said back to Poland, not Brooklyn. It’s a wonderful country, so surely they would love to go back?

    Your suggestion was that nobody should migrate to Poland. So my question was, in the interests of fairness, shouldn’t all Poles working around the EU equally be sent back?

  125. Yeah, and you don’t see 99.9999% of Muslims doing that in the UK either.

    I wouldn’t even bother Dave. After centuries of the worst kind of slavery humans have ever come up with, Jim Crow segregation, and just few short years of non-apartheid democracy, the US is beyond question the most racist country on earth.

  126. There is immigration to Poland now.

    As a sovereign people the Poles should have complete authority over who is allowed to move into their house. If they don’t have that ability, they’re not sovereign.

    Western Europeans have little historical memory, not so the Poles, Hungarians, Czechs, Slovaks. They suffered terribly under the Communists and Nazis and they remember.

    Centuries ago, the hostile Muslims nearly took over Europe. The supporters of criminal ” migration” know nothing of this, but the Pole knows.

  127. Dave

    I never said that all Moslems want to blow up the subway or to drive trucks into the Christmas fair

    But if you bring in large numbers of these, you are guaranteed to import this activity

    There are Poles in my neighborhood, and they are great

    Send them here please if you guys think that Poles are so horrible

  128. I never said that all Moslems want to blow up the subway or to drive trucks into the Christmas fair

    Then why do you want to stop all Muslim immigration?

    But if you bring in large numbers of these, you are guaranteed to import this activity

    Yes just as you are guaranteed​ criminal activity from any other race or religion you import. Which is the point I was trying to make about the Poles.

    There are Poles in my neighborhood, and they are great
    Send them here please if you guys think that Poles are so horrible

    I don’t know where you get that idea from Phantom I never said the Poles are horrible. I worked in Poland for two and a half years and I think the vast majority of poles are decent. Just like the vast majority of Muslims.
    However, the point I was trying to make would you seem to have missed yet again, is that we have a disproportionate number of Polish people in our prison system. Which goes to show that which ever country or religion you’re from you still have your bad elements.
    It seems you have a double standard. You are happy to allow any poles into your country and are prepared to accept the criminals, but the same rule doesn’t apply when it comes to Muslims.

  129. The Muslims are particularly incompatible and they bring with them a terrorist threat that no other group brings

    I can live with the occasional Pole or Russian that commits credit card fraud , etc – if it’s OK with you, I would prefer not to have another 9/11, or 7/7, or Cologne mass sexual assault, or Nice Muslim driving exhibition.

    If you support any significant Muslim migration, you are knowingly guaranteeing that your nationals will experience Muslim terror,disrespect, outrages.

    Besides, some very clever ATW people have told me how racist the Poles are. I don’t want my Muslim brothers to experience any racism at all, so let’s keep them out of the evil racist place!

  130. Any apologies yet , Troll you cunt?

  131. The Muslims are particularly incompatible and they bring with them a terrorist threat that no other group brings

    Except for the majority of Muslims in the UK you are compatible you repeatedly ignore.

    I can live with the occasional Pole or Russian that commits credit card fraud , etc – if it’s OK with you, I would prefer not to have another 9/11, or 7/7, or Cologne mass sexual assault, or Nice Muslim driving exhibition.

    I’m not talking about credit card fraud as you well know. I’m talking about murder, rape, robbery with violence etc. And since large numbers of Poles have come to the UK, we see many of these crimes have been committed by Poles. But hey, if you just want to be a hypocrite and turn a blind eye to that fact then you go right ahead.
    How many times have you got to come out with this b******* about stopping terrorist attacks by stopping Muslims coming to the UK. 9/11 which you quote was committed by Saudis visiting your country stopping Muslims from emigrating your country wouldn’t it stop this type of attack. The same applies in the UK. You would have to turn a country into a fortress and stop all tourism stand any chance of stopping terrorism completely.

    If you support any significant Muslim migration, you are knowingly guaranteeing that your nationals will experience Muslim terror,disrespect, outrages.

    I don’t know what you mean by significant. As I said in conversations I’ve had with you before on this subject I support the free movement of people to live in work in other countries. As I said before I don’t support unlimited migrants, especially economic migrants.

    Besides, some very clever ATW people have told me how racist the Poles are. I don’t want my Muslim brothers to experience any racism at all, so let’s keep them out of the evil racist place!

    Are sarcasm the lowest form of wit.
    I can’t we speak for anyone else here, but I never said the Poles are all racists. I just found a large majority of them to be much more racist then I expected.

  132. Noel, perhaps you’ll like this video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m8aJPQh0-Q

    I have to say that the behaviour on this thread has been fucking appalling. I don’t know if I’ve missed the comment or if it’s been deleted but I understand that an accusation of incest has been made against a parent and sibling of a commentator? What kind of sick mind and black fucking soul makes such a vile, insulting accusation?

    And while it’s true that we are all only words in cyberspace if I were to do something like wish a terminal illness on a commentator or accuse a commentator of having an incestuous relationship with a younger member of his family I would absolutely expect to be reprimanded – and rightly so.

    Fucking disgusting behaviour. ATW really has stooped t a new low.

    Dave, Phantom doesn’t dislike all Muslims or think they are all terrorists. He just wants every last one of those Muslims ‘incompatible cultures’ to be banned from entering the West just in case……

  133. ahh the third stooge arrives……

    I assure you Paul nothing has been deleted, removed, or altered except any pretense of sanity by your compatriot.

    I ask to read my 1:44 comment. it’s a decent summation.

  134. Seimi so tell me is this what you want an apology for?

    A RESPONSE to Noel butting into something and being RUDE was a first punch so was it your father that married his sister that created you Seimi…. or just NO variety in your gene pool????

    Because that is what I said…. Now you keep inferring I said something about YOUR sister….. Please cut and paste it where I can read it…. I can’t find it.

    That right there is what I said…. Now why does this off the cuff common insult bother you so much? Did I hit a hidden truth? Somehow I doubt it….

    in spite of your mental deficiencies testifying in favor of it…

    No you get no apology.

    You however should apologize not to me but to the group first for you very presence but that would be to much to ask.

    However for using the “C” word….. Shame on you, that’s just classless it’s a word that is just never used. Insult with at least a little decency pretend to have some it wont kill you, you can do it.

    This was a post about a technical glitch that was turned into a circus by the three stooges just being who and what they always have been and will be.

    It’s just a damn shame.

  135. I ask all regulars please read the post, then start at comment one and read it through from the beginning….

    Absorb it, think on it, let it end.

    Please.

  136. Go fuck yourself Troll

  137. So you think your ‘off the cuff’ insult is somehow better and more acceptable because it was about my father and HIS sister, rather than mine? You’re one sick cunt.
    My point here is not just about what you said. It’s about the absolute hypocrisy which exists on ATW, which allows a wanker like you carte blanche to say what he likes, but decent commentators get banned for much less.
    The fact that this needs explained to you shows just how fucking stupid you are, and your refusal to apologise, whilst simultaneously asking others to behave, shows you up for the false, dishonest prick that you are.
    Now get someone to read that to you slowly and then apologise.

  138. //Poland, yes, the same as most eastern European countries, they are inherently racist, I//

    In my experience, the most anti-semitic and racist people in Europe are the Poles and the Rumaniansm, which is strange because there are relatively many Jews in both places.
    I used to spend a lot of time in Poland and I remember thinking once that all the Poles I know are either anti-semites or Jews!

    Seimi,

    For God’s sake, you are talking with a person who is mentally very undeveloped – some times to the point of being retarded. He is equally morally retarded and is a compulsive liar (“I never start with the insults” etc). By trying to reason with him and – oh my god – ask for an apology!!, you are letting him drag you down to his level. He isn’t worth a fraction of your time or your mind; keep that for something better.

    Thanks, Paul.

  139. And the ugly fire is kept burning by nasty coals shovelled on to it by those who claim they want it extinguished… 😥

  140. are you accusing me of shoveling those nasty coals Colm ?

  141. you IRA wimps can’t handle it when someone refuses to yield to your nonsense can you ?

    Oh look at Seimi go, first he’s to stupid to understand an insult… thank you for admitting that. But you can almost picture the foam spewing from his lips….

    There is no Hypocrisy here.

    You people attacked and I responded. I am not the British I will not surrender to your Terror tactics whether they are verbal or physical.

    The three of you came on and have caused numerous people to leave. You pick fights on every thread you are on. No one else here will stand upto you, I will.

    That is not Hypocrisy.

    I have asked you to stop.

    David has asked you to stop.

    Yet you refuse.

    oh and the best part is Larry of the three stooges trying to talk sense to Moe while still throwing insults….. that makes you look so intelligent Noel… especially since you’re the wackjob that turned a technical thread into an insult slugfest…..

    Gentleman if ATW is such a horrid place LEAVE. It is just that simple… shoo, go away, vamoose, don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out……

    But you can’t because you don’t have the mental capacity to know when you’ve lost.

  142. This nonsense has lasted over 140 comments in what was supposed to be a temporary post about why the embed feature wasn’t working.

    Nothing could show or prove more perfectly how disruptive, disrespectful, and ignorant you are as a faction on this site.

    So Seimi where is your Apology for using the “C” word?

  143. In my experience, the most anti-semitic and racist people in Europe are the Poles and the Rumaniansm, which is strange because there are relatively many Jews in both places.
    I used to spend a lot of time in Poland and I remember thinking once that all the Poles I know are either anti-semites or Jews!

    Block your ears, Phantom! Polish racism and anti-semitism must be defended and excused at all costs.

  144. We should be on the same page then

    We both want to save the precious pets from any racism by not allowing them into the ” racist hell ” of Poland

    Why would they want to move to “racist ” country?

  145. Nobody seriously wants to relocate to a Poland or a Hungary, all things being equal. But when one is fleeing war, anywhere semi-secure will do in the short term.

    I was speaking with a young Syiran refugee in Munich last week. He is studying structural engineering and has been in Germany two years. He had nothing but great things to say about Germany and the German people. He said he had not endured hostility of any kind. Bravo Germany.

  146. If the Germans want them, let the Germans have them

    If the Poles see what west Europe has done as a cautionary tale, then as a sovereign nation they should do what they think is best for their nation

    There will be nothing short term about any of this- some will return, very many will not return, very many will seek to bring their families to join them in the land of free stuff

  147. ‘Precious pets’ Phantom?

    You know how I feel about the Poles, hard working, honest, indeed, one of my closest friends back home is originally from Kraków. That however doesn’t explain Dave’s:

    Did usual logic here phantom would you like to repeat on a regular basis if we hadn’t allowed any Poles into the UK, then people wouldn’t have been murdered or robbed by them

    above though.

  148. If the Poles see what west Europe has done as a cautionary tale, then as a sovereign nation they should do what they think is best for their nation

    That’s why the will stay within the EU and abide by EU regulations if pushed.

  149. When the Poles start blowing up your cities, talk to me.

    Your troubles with Muslims are just beginning. You don’t fix the problem by importing more of it.

    And ( some of you ) don’t fix the problem by saying bad things about the Polish. .The Poles are made of stronger stuff than you, and they have a far greater knowledge of history than you.

    Leave them be. They are not harming anybody.

  150. I’ve said many many times here what I think about Poles but isn’t your central argument that if these people weren’t in the country that those they murdered, raped, robbed, assaulted etc wouldn’t have been victims or am I missing something?

    Do you have a hierarchy of victims where some are more deserving of victim status than others?

  151. Phantom, on September 27th, 2015 at 9:42 PM Said:

    This is not any hyperbole.

    As one who loves Europe, and the peoples and nations of Europe, this is so hard to see.

    Stand up my brothers.

    Phantom, on April 23rd, 2017 at 1:57 PM Said:

    If the Germans want them, let the Germans have them

    But I thought you loved Europe and didn’t want all these horrible brown people INVADING?

    What happened to “stand up my brothers”?

  152. I have a hierarchy of causes. High on that list is protecting the west.

  153. But we’re not talking about causes were talking about victims.

    Would those victims of the Poles that Dave speaks about above have a higher rating on the victim scale if they had been ploughed into by a car or blown up by a bomb?

    Petr, Phantom talks with forked tongue on Europe and immigration. He intensely dislikes the EU for reasons best known to himself and also dislikes Muslims but doesn’t want to be seen as extreme as the other three of the Four Horsemen.

  154. Phantom is the most honorable man on here.

    He talks from his heart and even though he is occasionally overwhelmed by his emotions he very rarely takes the low road. He is the biggest supporter of that side of the Pond than anyone else on this side….

    He made no reference to “brown” people he has spoke in much kinder ways than me of the invasion of your nations by Radical Islamists.

    He has acted as advocate for everyone of you. He is consistent, and speaks what he believes to be the honest truth in a non-insulting way, an ability I lack and envy.

    The Poles are a great people that have suffered tremendously over the past 100 years, but they have done many things deserving of great admiration also.

    You do yourselves a discredit by not listening or trying to twist what he is saying.

  155. Troll — Dave, Paul, Noel, and myself and been to Poland (some of us have spent long periods of time there).

  156. So….. Your views are still just your opinion as his are just his opinion.

    Weighing what has been said as an outsider to the conversation Phantom has made more sense than the three of you.

    Petr in your time in Poland did you ever make it to the underground church?

    It is one of the few places in the world I would love to see before I die.

  157. Petr

    I have been to Poland also, and I don’t mock them as a pack of Polack racists who should be pushed around by you. I think that they should have actual ( not theoretical ) control of their own country, and none of you guys think that.

    The Poles have suffered unbelievably at the hands of Germans and then Communists. They are not signing up for Round Three. Which also protects the ” migrants ” from Polish ” racism “– The ultimate win-win solution

  158. The ultimate win-win solution

    It’s not quite the ultimate. With their distaste for migration, surely the Polish ruling class should advocate that all their millions of young educated people in the UK and Ireland should be returned to Poland. It’s the ultimate win-win solution. These Poles get to go home to their brilliant, vibrant, economically and socially successful country, and the Polish ruling class can pull out of the evil liberal EU and ergo not let any dastardly Muslims in.

    Anyway, I’ll stop having fun now! It really boils down to what Paul said:

    they will stay within the EU and abide by EU regulations if pushed.

    That’s the obvious truth and nothing anyone types here will change it.

  159. The Polish will rightly do what they think is correct for their country and that is why they will stay in the EU and accept its rules if pushed.

    It is insulting hyperbole to the many millions of victims of both Nazism and Soviet Communism to compare them with the victims of Islamic extremist nutjobs created as a result of the destabilising of the Middle East but I suppose that’s the hierarchy of victims again.

  160. created as a result of the destabilising of the Middle East

    Destabilised principally by the US’s mass slaughter there. These people have necks like jockey’s bollix.

  161. Paul

    What you fantasize about doing to the Polish nation and people is something much worse than what the communists did if not as bad as what Hitler did

    There is no need to humiliate the Polish at all. A Possibility that none of you have thought of!

  162. Petr Tarasov, on April 23rd, 2017 at 3:24 PM Said: Edit Comment

    created as a result of the destabilising of the Middle East

    Destabilised principally by the US’s mass slaughter there. These people have necks like jockey’s bollix.

    That’s pure bull…. the Middle East is they way it is because of the People and Governments there and their actions…. no one else.

  163. What you fantasise about doing to the Polish nation and people

    The transformation seems complete. Apparently an Irishman sitting in the Basque Country is plotting the destruction of Poland.

    Poland in the EU is obviously as bad as the USSR annexing, occupying and imposing a government and language.

    Hyperbolic rubbish.

  164. The US has done very unwise things in the ME but the ( mainly Sunni ) societal breakdown and oppression of all others is sui generis, and can be observed in Africa and other places way outside the ME as well

    The migration fans wish to be smacked around by Muslims in their own towns and they call the Poles racists for not wanting such a degraded fate for themselves

  165. The EU is evil, so clearly Poland should leave, but why don’t they? You’d almost think they are massive net beneficiaries.

  166. Migration from the region to mainland Europe would be close to zero without American imperialist mass murder over decades.

  167. The migration fans wish to be smacked around by Muslims in their own towns and they call the Poles racists for not wanting such a degraded fate for themselves

    I hope that isn’t directed at me Phantom, nowhere have I claimed that the Poles are any more or less racist because unlike quite a few here I don’t claim that any single group of people are homogonous. But tell me, as a fan of migration yourself, what’s your opinion on the victims that Dave alludes to above?

  168. The USSR annexing, occupying and imposing a government and language

    Hang on, that seems eerily familiar…..

  169. Am I the only one here who didn’t realize Carlos Santana was Polish?

  170. The Russian communist did not impose the Russian language in Poland

    Every pole still speaks Polish

  171. I said impose a foreign language Phantom not eradicate the native one, (that was the Brits).
    It was a foreign language that was compulsory for every Pole to learn and all official business was bi lingual.

    If that’s not the definition of imposing I don’t know what is.

  172. Phantom, on April 23rd, 2017 at 4:29 PM Said:
    The Russian communist did not impose the Russian language in Poland
    Every pole still speaks Polish

    Actually Phantom, I believe you are incorrect there, as far as I understand from my wife, and Slovak & Czech family/friends, at school age, it was mandatory for all children to learn Russian language over Slovak/Czech, and Russian history preceded national history.

    All children, had to wear communist colour blue, red uniforms, and before school started, no matter what the weather, were marched to the Town or village square, and had to salute, and recite an ode to Lenin.

    It was called

    “Ucitsa ucit sa”

    “Learn, learn learn”

    Most Eastern Europeans IMHO, detest the Russians.

  173. Mahons, on April 23rd, 2017 at 4:21 PM Said: Edit Comment

    Am I the only one here who didn’t realize Carlos Santana was Polish?

    Funniest comment of the day

  174. Most Eastern Europeans IMHO, detest the Russians

    With the exception of Serbs I agree Harri.

  175. Paul harri

    Understood

    The Poles and others exchanged one totalitarian oppressor for another

    You would hope that others with a history of oppression might have some sympathy for those who wish not to be invaded again

    Some learn from history, some do not

  176. The Russians backed the Serbs vs the US and NATO

  177. The Poles and others exchanged one totalitarian oppressor for another

    “Free cash” overrode anything else.

    Follow the money.

  178. The Poles and others exchanged one totalitarian oppressor for another

    I’m afraid that that’s bollocks Phantom. The EU is neither totalitarian nor oppressive it is an economic and socially progressive choice arrived at through a democratic process.

    You intensely dislike the EU, we know that, but to compare the EU with the USSR is hyperbolic nonsense.

    You should also really should stop demeaning your intellectual capabilities with this ‘invasion’ nonsense.

    There are long standing cultural and religious ties between Serbia and Russia.

  179. Paul McMahon

    Dave, Phantom doesn’t dislike all Muslims or think they are all terrorists. He just wants every last one of those Muslims ‘incompatible cultures’ to be banned from entering the West just in case……

    Yeah. That’s what I feel he’s saying. I just don’t understand his logic.
    The fact is most Muslins are not terrorists and live peacefully here in the UK. Yet he wants to punish them for the acts of a very small number. Strangely, he doesn’t apply this logic to the Poles who come here. In the last few years at least a dozen people, (probably more) have been murdered by Polish nationals from my research just browsing news stories. Yet somehow that’s not the same and we should let even more Poles into the UK?

  180. Speaking however of the unfunny, the sad, and the pathetic……

    Yesterday Several people contacted the proprietor and lodged complaints about me.

    That is your right to do so. Not something I ever do, but I don’t operate the way many of you do.

    I bring it up to let you know that I am under restrictions and my behavior is more monitored and more controlled than any of yours and always has been. You all have a much freer hand at what you can say than I do or ever will.

    That’s Ok, It is also a good thing for the site. In my opinion anyway.

    You can all continue that rout, the end result will be the shuttering of the site. Who knows that maybe your goal… it certainly is not mine.

    I do not want to be abusive to any of you nor do I go out of my way to do so.

    Way way up above is a request/promise let me repeat it.

    There are 5 of you. You know who you are.

    I will not start any conversations with any of you, I will not mention any of you, I will not refer to anything any of you say….. Unless

    You do any of the above in regards to me.

    Now for the sake of the site is that to much to ask?

    It’s a fair request. It puts all responsibility on all of us individually.

  181. As said above Dave, Phantom speaks with forked tongue regarding both the EU and Muslims incompatible cultures’ and immigration.

    He detests both but for some reason won’t put his cards on the table as the others have.

  182. Noel Cunning

    In my experience, the most anti-semitic and racist people in Europe are the Poles and the Rumaniansm, which is strange because there are relatively many Jews in both places.
    I used to spend a lot of time in Poland and I remember thinking once that all the Poles I know are either anti-semites or Jews!

    I had the same experience working in Poland Noel. It was weird. Many of the younger Poles were easy going when it came to race and religion, but a majority of the older ones were not. I felt like I was chatting to Alf Garnet sometimes.
    We used to eat at a Jewish restaurant in the Jewish part of the old town in Warsaw. The couple who ran it were really nice. They used to tell us how things were getting better lately because people shout anti-Semitic insults a lot less these days and the restaurant window has only been put through once in the last year!

  183. Paul

    I don’t detest any EU

    But I recognize that it has cracks in its foundation- its built wrong in many ways by bad architects that got their degree at Trump University

    If it reforms and lasts 500 years I will meet you in 2517 and say well done

  184. Troll

    [Phantom] has acted as advocate for everyone of you. He is consistent, and speaks what he believes to be the honest truth in a non-insulting way, an ability I lack and envy.

    I’m not sure why you made this point. Most of the contributors on here respect Phantom as far as I can see. I’ve certainly always said I like and respect Phantom. Most of the time he speaks logically and sensibly. He does however, hold hypocritical views on certain subjects.
    Most people on here can disagree without insulting or disliking the person they disagree with. (Myself included.)

    The Poles are a great people that have suffered tremendously over the past 100 years, but they have done many things deserving of great admiration also.

    I think the majority of the Poles are great. As do the other contributors here. Once again, I’m not sure why you made this point.

    You do yourselves a discredit by not listening or trying to twist what he is saying.

    What am I ‘twisting?’

  185. Hi from Amtrak train to Philly

    Train is slow not half as good as any European train

  186. Phantom,

    And ( some of you ) don’t fix the problem by saying bad things about the Polish. .The Poles are made of stronger stuff than you, and they have a far greater knowledge of history than you.
    Leave them be. They are not harming anybody.

    I’m not saying ‘bad things’ about the Polish Phantom. I think most of them are great.
    What a disgusting tactic, to straw man what we’re saying here to try to paint us as the bad guys.

  187. I had the same experience working in Poland Noel. It was weird. Many of the younger Poles were easy going when it came to race and religion, but a majority of the older ones were not.

    I spent close to 12 years in Bratislava, and Brno, Czech republic, I got some serious grief in the first years, all by young border guards, police, officials, and especially from the young Slovak young men from Pezinok a city in southwestern Slovakia. I got faced down many times by groups of them at pubs, petrol stations, restaurant’s, and even at the hospital. Me, being me, and English learnt Slovak, and just told them to fuck off, I think shock made them back off ;-).

    “Slovak men,for Slovak women” was the usual mantra.

  188. I don’t detest any EU

    Okay, I’ll retract that and change it to intensely dislike.

    Of course the EU is imperfect and needs reformed but warts and all it’s generally been beneficial for its members. It completely transformed both my home country and the country I now reside in.

  189. visiting or business

  190. Phantom, on April 23rd, 2017 at 3:29 PM Said:

    Paul
    What you fantasize about doing to the Polish nation and people is something much worse than what the communists did if not as bad as what Hitler did
    There is no need to humiliate the Polish at all. A Possibility that none of you have thought of!

    HE GETS WORSE WITH HIS STRAWMANING. AND SCORES A GODWINS!!! back of the net!!

  191. Oh, and if we are talking about racism.

    The most grief, and dangerous at times, most foreigners appear to get, and still do, is from the Roma.

    They are without empathy, and are merciless.

  192. Petr Tarasov

    Destabilised principally by the US’s mass slaughter there. These people have necks like jockey’s bollix.

    Well said Petr.

  193. Phantom

    The Russian communist did not impose the Russian language in Poland
    Every pole still speaks Polish

    Every Pole was forced to learn the Russian Language.
    That sounds like imposing to me.

  194. Harri

    “Slovak men,for Slovak women” was the usual mantra.

    I went out with a few Polish girls while I was there. A minority of Polish people had the same reaction to me.

  195. Dave.

    The Slovaks, and the Czechs have an unhealthy dislike of the Polish, I personally don’t, because I can’t, Ski, but every Slovak, and Czech appear to have been born on ski’s. Anyway, every ski resort I ever spent time at (mostly at the bar), there was always friction between to Poles and the locals.

    And, as you are probably already aware, ask an Eastern European if they are Russian, and see what reaction you get!.

  196. “Slovak men,for Slovak women” was the usual mantra

    Dictating who goes out with / loves / marries / shags who is precisely that – dictatorship.

  197. Business

    Staying by Logan Square

  198. good luck

    If you get a chance to head out toward the county if you had the time now or next weekend the perfect time for a ride. Everything just popped at once the redbud trees, dogwoods, azaleas and cherry trees all just erupted in color.

  199. Harri, on April 23rd, 2017 at 6:17 PM Said:

    Dave.
    The Slovaks, and the Czechs have an unhealthy dislike of the Polish, I personally don’t, because I can’t, Ski, but every Slovak, and Czech appear to have been born on ski’s. Anyway, every ski resort I ever spent time at (mostly at the bar), there was always friction between to Poles and the locals.

    Spot-on mate. I found exactly the same in Poland. In fact, I went to Zakopane snowboarding. It’s on the Polish boarder with Slovakia and while the Poles and Slovaks got along well in the bars at night. The same cannot be said for the Russians staying there. They were not liked.

    And, as you are probably already aware, ask an Eastern European if they are Russian, and see what reaction you get!.

    Spot on again. I fell foul of this when I first went out to Poland. They really don’t like the Russians. In fact, they prefer the Germens to the Russians. I remember asking my Polish girlfriend to speak in Russian to me, (she was forced to learn the language at school.) She was NOT happy with my request.
    I remember buying one of those Russian hats made of fur with the ear flaps and a metal/ceramic hammer and sickle badge on the front. I was about to wear it going into the office when a Polish colleague spotted me putting it on and advised me it wouldn’t be appreciated by the staff. Opps!

  200. I remember asking my Polish girlfriend to speak in Russian to me, (she was forced to learn the language at school.) She was NOT happy with my request.
    I remember buying one of those Russian hats made of fur with the ear flaps and a metal/ceramic hammer and sickle badge on the front. I was about to wear it going into the office when a Polish colleague spotted me putting it on and advised me it wouldn’t be appreciated by the staff. Opps!

    Yep, I’ve learned from experience that asking Poles to speak Russian is not an advisable activity.

    Dave, on Easter Saturday I went to a North Belfast derby at Solitude, the home of the mighty Cliftonville FC with my mate from Kraków, who is a fanatical Cliftonville supporter. Anyway, one of the lads in our group decided for a joke to wear an old CCCP football shirt to the match to wind my Polish mate Mick up.

    It was NOT appreciated and even though the two blokes in question are good friends themselves things got so hot it very near came to blows.

  201. just an observation so many here praise Putin and Russia while never having lived under them while those who have as told in these experiences despise them…. and don’t certainly have the admiration for the russians as some here express…

    do you think there may be something to that?

  202. Dave, this is spooky stuff!

    I was out one evening at the Irish bar in Bratislava Town Centre, anyway, to cut a long story short, I stupidly got drinking with three Serb guys, many Absinths later, I somehow managed to buy from a Slovak gentleman, who owned an army surplus shop round the corner, some ‘old stock’? (I soon found out why he couldn’t otherwise sell any if it), I ended up looking like a Russian Hussar, large furry hat, with hammer & sickle emplazoned on it, an oold Russian army trenchcoat (this was summer by the way), a neckerchief with hammer & sickle sewn on it, and a host of Russian military medals, and badges, I actually wore that all the way home on the tram, and even walked my English mate back to the train station… oh, how we laughed. Until I got home that was, my wife, her Mother,Father, and brothers went apeshit 😉

    I still have it all somewhere.

    This is where we usually went skiing, well they did anyway, it was always pretty much a haze to me.

    The Polish border was about 3 to 4 hours away.

    The highest located settlement in the Tatras – Štrbské Pleso offers 9 kilometres of easy to medium difficult ski tracks on southern slopes of Mt. Predné Solisko, which are popular with families, children but also experienced skiers. There are ski and snowboard rentals, ski-services and ski schools for beginners in the area too. Enjoy the highest standard of services in a peaceful and harmonious resort.

    http://www.vt.sk/en/mountains/skiing/strbske-pleso/

    Dave, snowboarding!

    You have my admiration mate, I have had ski lesson, after ski lesson, all to no avail.

    My wife reckons, it’s because I have never tried to learn sober ;-).

  203. By the way, O/T ever so slightly.

    As far as I am concerned. “Easy to medium, difficult” ski slopes don’t actually exist, they are all “impossible”.

    Another thing, is it just me, but apart from the ability to ski lime Olympian downhill racers, most eastern Europeans can speak many languages, and all either play the piano, or guitar?

  204. Troll.

    I think Putin is not in the same league as Lenin or Stalin.

  205. Really Harri….

    His opponants who no longer live might disagree and give him enough time, he’s building a nice body count in Syria also however no one not even Hitler can Match Stalin

  206. Troll.

    We were discussing skiing, and ski resorts, another little known fact, most of these eastern European ski resorts, with what they would call “luxury ski chalets” (I wouldn’t call them luxury) were owned by the Russian politburo.

    The people lived, and still do in some places, lived like poor serfs, whilst the politburo lived a life of O’Reilly.

  207. so you admired them so much you created your own Politburo and headquartered it in Brussels.

  208. Not me Troll.

    I voted to leave because of them.

  209. Troll.

    I have lived in the exact same environment Brussels dreams about, I voted to leave because I pretty certain I know what’s coming.

  210. Anyway, one of the lads in our group decided for a joke to wear an old CCCP football shirt to the match to wind my Polish mate Mick up.
    It was NOT appreciated and even though the two blokes in question are good friends themselves things got so hot it very near came to blows.

    I can believe it Paul. We used to go to a cheap bar in Warsaw that was open until 3:00 AM. One night some Russians came in with Russian football shirts on. The ensuing fight with the locals was quite something to watch.

  211. Dave, this is spooky stuff!
    I was out one evening at the Irish bar in Bratislava Town Centre…….

    This is spooky indeed Harri, I also wore my Russian hat when I went to the REAL Irish bar in Warsaw. It seems us Brits like to do the same things in Eastern Europe. 🙂

    Dave, snowboarding!
    You have my admiration mate, I have had ski lesson, after ski lesson, all to no avail.
    My wife reckons, it’s because I have never tried to learn sober ;-).

    Sorry for the delay, I’ve been down the pub.
    Thanks mate. The pain learning to snowboard was worth it. The best holidays I’ve ever had have been snowboarding in Poland, France and Switzerland. Sorry to sound like a stoner surf dude here, but the rush you get snowboarding down a black run is life changing.
    Your wife is wrong mate, I learned drunk as well. It seems to hurt less when you fall. 🙂

  212. Harri

    As far as I am concerned. “Easy to medium, difficult” ski slopes don’t actually exist, they are all “impossible”.

    It just looks that way when you’re a beginner mate. Like learning to drive. All roads look scary. One you learn you look for more of a challenge.

    Another thing, is it just me, but apart from the ability to ski lime Olympian downhill racers, most eastern Europeans can speak many languages, and all either play the piano, or guitar?

    No it’s not just you mate. I felt embaresed by the Poles. Almost all of the ones I worked with could speak some English and many of them were fluent. And more than half could play some form of musical instrument. The girls I went out with could all speak English fluently, two of them played the piano really well and one played the violin. Sill, at least I could down vodka like a local!! 🙂

  213. As far as I am concerned. “Easy to medium, difficult” ski slopes don’t actually exist, they are all “impossible”.

    That’s the case in France, where they seem to randomly apply blues, reds and blacks.

  214. Pete Moore

    That’s the case in France, where they seem to randomly apply blues, reds and blacks.

    LOL, ain’t that the truth. 🙂

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