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WHAT IS LABOUR’S POSITION ON BREXIT?

By Pete Moore On April 19th, 2017

“We haven’t picked a side.”

Even I can be surprised at the ineptitude of Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour Party. It’s true that no-one can describe Labour’s position re. Brexit. It’s ten months on from the EU Referendum, Brexit is the greatest political issue since Suez at least, and no-one’s any the wiser where the Opposition is. You might assume that it’s simply a matter of poor communication resulting from the generally chaotic office of the party leader, and that deep down there’s a Brexit policy somewhere. Even I thought that might be the case, but no.

The Shadow Foreign Secretary went on BBC’s Newsnight last night, where Evan Davis asked her where Labour stands on Brexit, given that the Tories and LibDems are very clear. Her actual response: “We haven’t picked a side.” The video’s here.

Some might suspect that people like me laugh at the Labour Party because we dislike it. This is not the case. We laugh at it because HM Opposition is genuinely, staggeringly, laughable.

25 Responses to “WHAT IS LABOUR’S POSITION ON BREXIT?”

  1. Your democracy needs a credible party alternative to the Conservatives. You don’t have one.

    That’s not good for anyone.

  2. Corbyn is doing a fine job. There is a Blairite virus in the party that should have been ruthlessly removed and wasn’t. They are, with malice aforethought, destroying their own party.

  3. “You don’t have one.”

    Phantom, they certainly do have one and that is the problem. Any alternative to centre left/centre/centre right (these are all the same) neoliberal vandalism is immediately dismissed as ‘unrealistic’ etc. The likes of Crooked Pete and his hangers on here have fallen for this framing hook, line, and sinker.

  4. Corbyn is doing a fine job

    Lol! 🙂

  5. Corbyn, Abbot ‘the racist bigot’, and the other assorted dross, would be hard pressed to run a whelk stall.

  6. Tarasov –

    I think you confuse me with someone else. It is I who points out that anything outside the 5″x3″ window of official opinion is dismissed by the politico/media establishment.

    But the problem for Labour is not only that Corbyn is a wacko Trotskyite extremist who likes terrorists, it’s that he’s completely incompetent to boot.

  7. Paddy Power now listing a Conservative majority likelihood at 94%.

    They must think there’s a 6% chance that the world will end by 8th June.

  8. Steptoe, and his ragbag cabal of lefty toerags are hurtling towards political oblivion.

    Expect Popcorn production to go through the roof.

  9. Our esteemed Prime Minister has chickened out of declined to participate in any TV debates, and ITV has already announced that they will go ahead with them anyway and “empty chair” her.

    I do hope that the rest of the broadcasters follow suit in order to highlight the contempt for the electorate that May’s decision shows. The USA is so much better than the UK in direct democracy.

  10. I think it is fairly obvious that Labours policy in general would be to negotiate a deal that delivers the softest Brexit. They want to maintain the strongest formal links to the EU structure that can be obtained. The problem is the hard left and probably even Corbyn himself ideologically view the EU as a capitalist cabal and they view a full clear no single market Brexit as an opportunity to enact the strong socialist state control high tax government they really want and which the single market restricts.

  11. Peter.

    You want to actually not only listen to them, but watch them talk total, and utter bollocks?

    Why?

  12. Peter –

    The PM has (at least so far) fully aligned herself with the result of the EU Referendum, and called for a General Election.

    Therefore your charge that she has “contempt” for the electorate is somewhat strange.

    It’s right that American presidential candidates debate. It’s a singular, executive position. We don’t have a presidency. The executive is the monarch. Our General Election consists of 650 local elections. Such debates are ill-fitting for our elections and pander only to TV networks’ drive for ratings.

  13. Harri

    So that the folks who vote will know what they are voting for? I don’t vote and I won’t be watching, but surely those who do deserve some respect from the woman who has called the election and asked for their support?

  14. I do hope that the rest of the broadcasters follow suit in order to highlight the contempt for the electorate that May’s decision shows.

    I recall Margaret Thatcher doing this during her campaign for leadership of the Conservative Party. She just left the nonentities to slug it out. The broadcasters in thye UK think that the election is about them: May has shown them that it is not.
    And May is correct that various political factions are attempting to scupper Brexit. I suspect that the new swathe of Tory MPs has been vetted for pro-Brexitness

  15. Our General Election consists of 650 local elections. Such debates are ill-fitting for our elections and pander only to TV networks’ drive for ratings.

    Pete Moore

    Bollocks. All recent elections have had these debates and May appeals directly to the voters as PM when it suits her. I do hope that they put a suitable fruit on her empty chair.

  16. Peter.

    May’s arse might belong to the Brussels power crazed totalitarian overpaid federalist Brussels overlords, but unfortunately for them, 17.4 million of our serf arses….don’t.

  17. the Brussels power crazed totalitarian overpaid federalist Brussels overlords

    Harri

    You left out the word fascist and omitted to mention Reichsmarshall Juncker by name. What’s wrong with you tonight?

  18. I recall Margaret Thatcher doing this during her campaign for leadership of the Conservative Party.

    So what? This is a General Election. May needs to show some respect for the voters and in 2017 those debates (which will be followed on streaming social media as well as mainstream TV) will do her no good in her absence, because her absence will suggest arrogance to many. And from arrogance it’s a small step to being “out of touch”.

    Of course the Daily Mail and Murdoch lapdogs will cheer her on for refusing to take part in what they will probably try to smear as “TV charades”, but just imagine how they would react if it was a Labour PM pulling this stunt. “Eitist”, “Frit”, “Out of Touch”, “What Have You to Fear?”, would be the kindest comments from the attack dogs.

  19. Peter, you need to eat more greens and sea salt.

    Iron fortifies the blood. Salt breaks down into electrolytes and improves brain function.

  20. Peter, you need to eat more greens and sea salt.

    Thanks Pete, I eat both, and lots of other foodie things (blueberries and yoghurt for breakfast, home made tapinade, no meat, free range eggs, home-baked wholemeal bread, oily fish) so I think my diet is pretty good.

    How’s your’s?

  21. Killer breakfast

    Steel cut oatmeal presoaked overnight, which then cooks in a few minutes

    Add a bunch of frozen berries in the last minute, which are actually better than fresh 99% of the time and maybe some unsalted sunflower seeds

    Stir it up and put a bit of kefir on top

    Healthy delicious and easy

  22. I’m a RED, but i can’t stand her, she’s like a wheelie-bin

  23. Labour should clean house, starting with Corbyn. Then take a strong anti-Brexit position. If they were able to find a talented middle-of-the-road leader, they might do well. But I don’t know if they have any talent and seven weeks is a short time.

    May has turned the Tories back into the nasty party. That is a real liability but if there is no competition, it is not a problem now. Still, it would be good to see a vigorous race rather than a walk in the park for the Tories.

  24. Peter, on April 19th, 2017 at 9:43 PM Said:

    I recall Margaret Thatcher doing this during her campaign for leadership of the Conservative Party.

    So what? This is a General Election. May needs to show some respect for the voters and in 2017 those debates (which will be followed on streaming social media as well as mainstream TV) will do her no good in her absence, because her absence will suggest arrogance to many. And from arrogance it’s a small step to being “out of touch”.

    Yes – the tens of thousands of ordinary members of the Conservative Party were incensed that Margaret Thatcher sat aside from the TV debate of the others just as millions of Tory voters will be incensed about Theresa May ignoring the TV companies. Obviously, as before, she’ll win by some distance.

  25. The tries will win by some distance but not through some great wave of popularity towards them but simply because the opposition is in such dire straits.

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