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THROUGH THE KEYHOLE

By Pete Moore On June 19th, 2017

NICE gaff, lovely kitchen, bright living room with great views over London. Mind you, at £2000 a month you’d have to be on a decent wage to afford it. So who would live in a place like this?

Well, no-one right now, because it’s Grenfell Tower. I thought that it was a disgusting hovel, a Victorian slum holdover where the poorest were stuffed away, out of sight and out of mind. That’s what the press and “the community” said. Turns out that the government spent £10 million on the refurb and were making me subsidise some nice digs for Ethiopian taxi drivers. No wonder Corbyn thinks that Kensington mansions should be taken from their owners; he wants the immigrants to keep up a lifestyle to which they’ve become accustomed.

83 Responses to “THROUGH THE KEYHOLE”

  1. Is that representative of what most apartments were like?

  2. Damned sight nicer than my kitchen.

  3. Even if every apartment were like that, which was never the case – it might be good to have safer cladding. And sprinklers. And two exits. Those things are high on the list.

  4. Of course Pete you’ll know that that’s a private rental from a private landlord as opposed to a Council tenancy won’t you?

  5. Aid to immigrants (or others) would seem to be a separate issue from the tragedy itself.

  6. Nice.

    But apart from hotels, I wouldn’t want to live above feet.

  7. Paul –

    If you think that council tenants don’t live in private property, you’re sorely mistaken.

    Heard of “housing benefit”, yes? Are you aware that it gets paid to landlords? Many landlords have become very wealthy on the back of this immigrant boom. State sector housing has become more rare and the immigrant boom has boomed. So councils have had to turn to private landlords more and more.

    Some tenants receive housing benefit and have to pass it on as rent, but in very many cases it’s paid direct to the landlord. And landlords love it because councils don’t forego on the benefit like a private tenant might not pay the rent.

    You think an Ethiopian cabbie can’t end up in a £2grand/month Kensington flat? Think again.

  8. *Above 30 feet.

  9. Nah, it just don’t happen Pete…

    Family on benefits move into £2 million home
    A family who fled war torn Somalia for Britain have exchanged their modest home in the West Midlands for a £2 million detached house in one of London’s smartest neighbourhoods – with the taxpayer picking up the bill.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/8701091/Family-on-benefits-move-into-2-million-home.html

  10. What Pete describes at 818 happens in the US also – ” Section 8 ” ( low income or problem ) tenants have their rent paid directly from govt to private landlord.

  11. Pete, I understand that you were previously involved in property management.

    You’ll then also know that the overwhelming number of properties in Grenfell Tower were Chelsea and Kensington Council stock as opposed to private landlords and you’ll also know that the Housing Allowance rate for a Central London two bed roomed flat is £290.00 per week – a sizeable shortfall of that two grand a month flat above?

    https://lha-direct.voa.gov.uk/Secure/SearchResults.aspx?LocalAuthorityId=20&LHACategory=2&Month=7&Year=2011&SearchPageParameters=true&Total=3&Couples=1&SingleMales=1&SingleFemales=0&MaleChildren=0&FemaleChildren=0&MaleYouths=0&FemaleYouths=0&BedroomCalculatorPageParameters=true

    So watcha reckon then Pete?

    You still reckon that that Ethiopian taxi driver, who as he was working would be questionable that he was eligible for housing benefit anyway, or those other human beings , tower residents immigrants were living in that £ 2,000 pm luxury?

  12. A mere 290 quid a week? We treat these immigrants like dirt.

    Err Paul, you do realise that 290 quid a week is more than half of the 2 grand/month rent, don’t you? Of course it can pay for an Ethiopian cabbie.

  13. Err Paul, you do realise that 290 quid a week is more than half of the 2 grand/month rent, don’t you?

    Yes Pete, that’s why I said:

    A sizeable shortfall of that two grand a month flat above

    I also said this:

    That Ethiopian taxi driver, who as he was working would be questionable that he was eligible for housing benefit anyway

    Mendacious Moore at his most spinning.

    All the human beings , tower residents immigrants that lived in Grenfell Tower lived in privately let two grand a month luxury (wink wink)

    Nice try but no cigar.

  14. And BTW Pete,

    For five hundred sovs a week I’d say a few fire alarms would be a reasonable request?

  15. From what I read most of the press are not saying Grenfell Tower was a disgusting hovel. What they are saying quite rightly is that it was a death trap with hugely inadequate Fire Prevention and warning systems.
    But you carry on with your strawman building Pete, after all it’s what you’re good at.

  16. I haven’t commented here for a while, for various reasons. A member of my family was unlucky enough to be walking towards London Bridge just as the terror attack started and got caught up in the second wave in Borough Market. He’s OK now, but it was a horrendous experience which will stay with him forever. After reading David Vance’s response to that incident I was too angry to comment or look at the site for some time. Returning to it today I find that Pete Moore is managing to lower the tone still further.

    After London Bridge David described London as a ‘third world hellhole’. As a Londoner myself, born and bred, all I can say is ‘f*** you’. Living in a Muslim-dominated area, I have been overwhelmed with kindness since the attacks. My neighbours couldn’t have been more generous or concerned. I live in one of the greatest cities on the planet – I’m proud of what it is and love living here, as I did forty years ago. How dare you sit there in your middle class Northern Irish town and tell us what’s wrong with our city. You know nothing about what this city is really like. Keep your stinking parochial views to yourself.

    As for Pete – this article is a new low, even for him. If there’s an opportunity to pile contempt on the dispossessed he’ll take it – particularly if the people concerned have darker skin than him. I used to live in an ex-council block in Earls Court. Some of the residents were middle class leaseholders who had installed luxury kitchens and expensive sofas. But the majority were on housing benefit who lived in flats that hadn’t been modernised in 30 years. This is not uncommon. But Pete found a single flat that looks quite nice inside and decided to write an article pouring scorn on the dozens of residents who *lost their lives* in one of the worst civil disasters this country has seen in a century. You’re beneath contempt.

    I have often enjoyed reading comments by the saner members of this community, in particular Phantom, Mahons and the ever-civilised Charles. But Pete’s worldview has become so poisonous, and his enmity for anybody dark of hue or Islamic of religion so apparent, that I can’t bear to read his bile any longer. As for David, his apparently bottomless hypocrisy, in particular, in taking the Kremlin shilling while bleating about Fake News, is something I can no longer stomach.

    Oh, and finally: the continuing unrestrained presence of Allan taints this site and its editors. “But Free Speech!”, you say. Yes, fine, I’m not saying you should ban him. But he’s been polluting the site with his grotesque antisemitism and racial slurs for over a decade without David once suggesting that he might like to give it a rest. That sin by omission is damning.

    Over and out.

  17. Living in a Muslim-dominated area, I have been overwhelmed with kindness since the attacks.

    I’m proud of what it is and love living here,

    Proud of having cockneys driven from their own city:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOuLGQu8kRk

  18. masterson –

    Always jolly good to see you too. As a Londoner, born and bred, I have DV right. You live in a Third World toilet.

  19. Wild exaggeration does not help any cause.

    London is one of the world’s great cities.

  20. Delbert ain’t happy. The government’s offer of an immediate £5500 gift to Grenfell Tower residents just ain’t good enough. His TV was worth more than that, and quite right too. A swanky pad needs swanky gear innit n ting.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvrMdkFGFDI

  21. The ‘anti-racists’ here will tell us that Lagos is a great city, though none would dare to go there; that Johannesburg is a great city, and it was but is now truly a toilet further on London’s trajectory; that Mumbai is a great city – it is actually a great city but there’s just so much absolute poverty in it. The point is that the cause of London’s imminent demise is the same as that of Detroit, Chicongo, Jo’burg – the departure of whites.

  22. Detroit is a ruined city, but Chicago is a great city.

    Most of the murders are bad guy on bad guy, in most of the city the drug and gang fueled violence does not affect the locals at all.

  23. London is not just a shithole, it’s a vastly overpriced shithole.

  24. I have often enjoyed reading comments by the saner members of this community, in particular Phantom, Mahons and the ever-civilised Charles

    Thank you Masterson. I hope you keep coming to ATW, and I hope that your family member gets the help they need at this trying time. After being involved in a small way at the Fort Hood Massacre, I needed help myself.

    Today I found myself with a dead car battery at the grocer’s. The help that soon arrived was a pleasant young Muslim man. He was so nice and helpful, I gave him a $20 tip.

  25. Harri,

    London is not just a shithole, it’s a vastly overpriced shithole.

    Why is it a ‘shithole’ Harri?

  26. I know a number of Brits who live in London and who like it quite a bit.

    I know Irish, Americans, Canadians, French who have lived there / live there now as part of a business tour of duty and who love/d the time there.

  27. As Samiel Johnson could have said ” Harri , Pete and Allan are just tired of life” 😉

  28. Charles – I’ll take your financial status as being healthy given that you gave a muslim $20 jizya for not blowing himself up in your presence.

  29. The comment at 6.05pm is laden with chutzpah. (((Who else))) could post that?

  30. and they’re blowing themselves up in Belgium……

    aqny news on that side of what happened….?

  31. as for Masterson…… if you don’t like the tone of the conversation change it…. Start with yourself. You tend to pop up and drop some pile of criticism and then disappear.

    As I said in my first comment on this thread Pete does NOT speak for anyone but Pete and David for the most part keeps his hands out of the commentary.

    You are more than welcome to join us in a lively conversation. You write well in that(you express your opinion clearly). Join the conversation and give your opinion and try staying engaged.

    So far you just show up on occasion dump a pile of crap in the room and then disappear. Add some meat to the conversation and stick around, or do you lack the balls too?

  32. Why is it a ‘shithole’ Harri?

    Roll call of death: Map shows how widespread knife crime is across London

    Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2017/05/08/roll-call-of-death-map-shows-how-widespread-knife-crime-is-across-london-6623074/#ixzz4kcaLaXVI

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk/7777635.stm

  33. Harri – on opening the metro link and scrolling down a bit, there’s a red and white crime map of London. There’s a crime-free bit right in the middle of the crime-infested urbanism: what is that and why is it diffetent?

  34. Alla@

    I am sure Dave A, or Colm can explain that anomaly.

  35. Why is it a ‘shithole’ Harri?

    More than 1,000 rapes and sexual assaults reported at London schools in four years
    Of the rape allegations, 15 per cent were reported to have taken place in the borough of Croydon

    Child protection campaigners have called for greater safeguarding within schools, after it was revealed that more than 1,000 rapes and sexual assaults have been recorded at London schools and nurseries over the past four years.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/london-schools-nurseries-rape-sexual-assaults-foi-statistics-figures-a7213751.html

  36. Why is it a shithole Harri?

    Anyone know how these crime stats compare to crime rates from the 1950s before Britain’s politicians turned London into a dumping ground for every 3rd world cesspit on the planet?

    Where is the right to a family life for peaceful, law-abiding, tax-paying indigenous British people?

  37. Harri

    So your opinion is, it’s a shit hole because of its high crime rate?
    If that’s the case then do you also think that other places with a higher or similar crime rate to London, are also shitholes? Such as Boston in Lincolnshire?

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/boston-in-lincolnshire-is-the-most-murderous-place-in-england-and-wales-home-office-figures-reveal-a6828571.html

  38. Dave.

    Those crazy indigenous Brits…

    Boston: How a Lincolnshire town became ‘the most divided place in England’
    Policy Exchange report names town the least integrated in the country after huge numbers of arrivals from eastern Europe

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/boston-how-a-lincolnshire-town-became-the-most-divided-place-in-england-a6838041.html

  39. So your opinion is, it’s a shit hole because of its high crime rate?

    Dave,

    So your opinion is, the escalating deaths of young people make London a wonderful vibrant safe City?.

    See, two can play games.

  40. Dave.

    When you have pulled your head from out of your arse…can you spot a link?

    Boston sees biggest immigration increase in the country.

    http://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/boston-sees-biggest-immigration-increase-coutry/story-25894435-detail/story.html

  41. Harri,

    So your opinion is, the escalating deaths of young people make London a wonderful vibrant safe City?.
    See, two can play games.

    I’m not playing any games Harry, that’s your childish trick, not mine.
    I asked a perfectly reasonable question. The one playing Silly Games here is you with your usual Trick of trying to put words in people’s mouths.
    Let’s try one more time, if it’s your belief that London is a shit hole, because of its high crime rate, then that does that make other places with similar or higher crime rates shitholes? It’s not a hard question Harri.

  42. Dave.

    London is a shithole because of many reasons, mainly it become an immigrant infested third world high crime shithole.

    So, let’s try again, Dave do you think London (and Boston Lincs) are safe, vibrant places?

    It’s not a hard question?.

    Dave,

    I will try again.. can you spot a link in Boston Lincs?

  43. Dave.

    Boston Lincs is the highest crime ridden shithole, along with murderous crimes in the UK.

    What City lies just behind them on the list?

    And why?

  44. So your opinion is, the escalating deaths of young people make London a wonderful vibrant safe City?.

    It’s not a hard question Dave?.

  45. Harri

    You are correct to be concerned about violent crime, but the worst violent ( and hardest to fudge ) crime is murder and there I note

    a) London has about 1/3 the rate of murders than London the last time I looked while
    b) New York has much lower murder rates than Philadelphia, Chicago, America generally .

    If London is a ” shithole ” to use your delicate phrase, then what is gun-infested America?

  46. the liberals and the leftists are only too aware the indigenous population of London and most other major Cities are being ethnically cleansed.

    And no matter how high the cost in human misery, and loss of life, young or old, that’s exactly what they hope for.

  47. Many of the fakes phonies and frauds that pretend to care about the Arabs of the West Bank sure change their tune when the ” settlers ” and ” local population ” groups are different.

  48. Harri,

    Dave.
    London is a shithole because of many reasons, mainly it become an immigrant infested third world high crime shithole.

    You still haven’t answered my question Harri. And you have the audacity to berate me for supposedly not answering yours. Your lack of self-awareness is stunning.

    So, let’s try again, Dave do you think London (and Boston Lincs) are safe, vibrant places?
    It’s not a hard question?.
    Dave,

    I tell you what Harry, I’ll answer your question even though they once again you haven’t answered mine.
    I think that London or anywhere else in the UK for that matter are relatively safe places. I’ve traveled all over the country and I’ve never felt threatened in big cities. That’s not to say the risk of crime against myself isn’t there, but I don’t let it worry me. Statistically speaking the risk of me being murdered in a big city is still extremely low. London is a Far Cry from downtown Johannesburg.
    I’m not really sure what you mean by ‘vibrant’. But if you’re referring to the dictionary definition which is ‘full of energy and life’ then yes I would say most big cities are full of energy and life.

  49. Dave.

    So predictable, so lefty.

    You asked, I answered, Dave, what part of this do you not understand?

    Harri, on June 21st, 2017 at 11:52 AM Said:
    Dave.
    London is a shithole because of many reasons, mainly it become an immigrant infested third world high crime shithole.

    Okay.

    Ignoring Daves best attempt at writing complete strawman bollocks above.

    Dave,

    High immigration,high crime rates…got it now?

    So. Here goes again..

    So, let’s try again, Dave do you think London (and Boston Lincs) are safe, vibrant places?
    It’s not a hard question?.

    Dave,?

    And Dave, before you demand yet another answer,try fucking answering some yourself, you suckered yourself mate, you used Boston Lincs as some sort of lefty get out clause. You should have checked it’s immigration rate first.

    Lefties huh!

  50. I tell you what Harry, I’ll answer your question even though they once again you haven’t answered mine

    I tell you what… Dave.

    Don’t fucking bother, you just ain’t worth time, effort and fucking energy.

  51. Harri

    You asked, I answered, Dave, what part of this do you not understand?
    London is a shithole because of many reasons, mainly it become an immigrant infested third world high crime shithole.

    YOU DID NOT ANSWER MY QUESTION HARRI. WHICH PART OF THAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND!
    You have the reading comprehension of a dyslexic five year old with attention deficit disorder.
    If my question been: ‘why do you think London is a shit hole’ then yes she would have answered it BUT THAT WAS NOT MY QUESTION!
    For the fourth fucking time, my question once again is:
    If it’s your belief that London is a shit hole, because of its high crime rate, then that does that make other places with similar or higher crime rates shitholes?

    Do you not understand simple English?

    Ignoring Daves best attempt at writing complete strawman bollocks above.

    Do you actually know the meaning of strawmanning Harry? Because the only person here that’s strawmanning is you.

    So, let’s try again, Dave do you think London (and Boston Lincs) are safe, vibrant places?
    It’s not a hard question?.

    Are you retarded? I’ve answered this question above perfectly well. Which part of my answers do both of these points don’t you understand?

    And Dave, before you demand yet another answer,try fucking answering some yourself, you suckered yourself mate, you used Boston Lincs as some sort of lefty get out clause. You should have checked it’s immigration rate first.

    What the hell are you on about now Harri, I haven’t suckered myself. I’ve already agreed with you in past conversations that areas with high immigration often have higher crime rates. But it also a fact that many areas with high crime rates have low immigration. As usual you’re just making crap up and putting words in people’s mouths.

    Do you know what Harri, as usual I’m just wasting my time trying to have an adult conversation with you. You just go off on your usual rant about ‘lefties’ and ‘ethnic cleansing.’ like most conspiracy theories Harry you don’t want a debate, you just want an echo chamber to rant in.

  52. masterson,

    I’ve only just read your post on here. I agree with you totally mate.
    And disappointed you don’t post more often we’ve had some good conversations in the past.

  53. Dave.

    Oh please do fuck off.

    There’s a good boy.

  54. Am I retarded?

    Coming from you, who clearly is…

    That’s an insult 😉

  55. Masterson, I suspect that you and I are poles apart politically but your contributions here are much needed.

    Your logical, coherent and civil arguments are enjoyable to read and not only do I hope you consider your decision and return but I hope you return and contribute more regularly than at present.

    Your civil and well argued Conservatism is needed here.

  56. BTW Dave, London is a fantastic city.

  57. Our usual response from Harry when he’s called out on his bullshit, run away like a little coward he is.
    And you wouldn’t tell me to fuck off to my face Harry, would you little coward.
    But despite claiming he doesn’t want to talk to me, he’ll be back making his snide comments on mine and other people’s posts.

  58. Forget murder and crime – a shithole is a place where you can’t get a white doctor:

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/white-doctor-video-mississauga-1.4168199

    A Mississauga, Ont., man is stunned after witnessing and filming a woman make several demands for a “white doctor” who “doesn’t have brown teeth” and “speaks English” at his local walk-in clinic on Sunday.

    Hitesh Bhardwaj recorded the incident while waiting for his own appointment at Rapid Access to Medical Specialists in Mississauga, Ont. He shared his video with CBC News.

    The (((media))) are portraying this as a racist attack on the Canadian health service – but the white public doesn’t seem to agree any more….

    Our people should not be living in a situation where they need to be concerned about such things. It is irritating enough having to deal with non-whites every time you need to place a tech support call. Having to deal with non-White doctors from turd-world hellholes who can’t speak proper English is complete insanity.

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/226820/Now-a-mere-37-of-NHS-doctors-are-white-British

    The NHS now has doctors trained in 147 countries including Mongolia, Papua New Guinea and even Haiti, the poorest nation in the western world. More than 25,000 come from India.

    Last year, Nigerian-born German doctor Daniel Ubani was banned from working in the UK after killing 70-year-old David Gray by giving him 10 times the maximum dose of a painkiller.

    Ubani, who was on his first shift as an out-of-hours locum GP, later admitted his “fatal mistake” happened partly because he was unfamiliar with the drugs he was using.

    He was allowed to work in Britain without checks because European laws forbid employers in the UK testing the skills of doctors qualified within the EU.

    There are currently 22,000 foreign-born medics in the UK trained in EU member states.

    So the ‘racist’ woman in Canada who demanded proper treatment for her son is right.

  59. Paul McMahon

    BTW Dave, London is a fantastic city.

    I agree mate. I’ve worked in, and visited London many times. Had some great days there and some fantastic nights out. I’ve also enjoyed many other big cities such as Manchester, Newcastle, Liverpool, and Bristol. And I’ve had some fantastic night out in Glasgow and Edinburgh.

  60. I’ve relations in Glasgow, bloody magnificent place.

    We need to get a beer summit organised and add Belfast to your list so I can buy you a pint.

  61. A woman make several demands for a “white doctor” who “doesn’t have brown teeth” and “speaks English”

    ‘Certainly Madam. Dr Shipman – there’s a patient to see you’

  62. Cheers Paul I’d really be up for that. Belfast and Dublin are two places still on my list to visit. If you get across to the northwest of England, I’ll buy you a beer mate.

  63. Certainly Madam. Dr Shipman – there’s a patient to see you’

    LOL 😁

  64. The white parts of London are fantastic – none of the pro-enrichment multi-cultists would dare to have a night-out in the darker areas. And because Glasgow is still predominantly white, then a good night-out is to be had, even for Tims.

    In London, vibrancy-driven fragmentation is now unavoidable and muslims are now demanding what the jews already have – their own police force:

    http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/623886/London-borough-Stamford-Hill-lockdown-youths-machetes-swords

    https://diversitymachtfrei.blogspot.co.uk/2017/06/muslims-invoke-jewish-example-to-demand.html

    The Muslims are exploiting this incident big-time to advance their agenda. Among the ones interviewed following the so-called mosque attack, more than one has declared that police are unable to protect them and called for equality of treatment with Jews. The similarity in their remarks suggests a previously prepared script.

    In the form of the Community Security Trust, the Jews have a thug squad/intelligence agency – run by a convicted criminal, a man convicted of fraud no less – that reliably receives millions of pounds from the taxpayer every year. And it regularly churns out propaganda reports warning of the dangers of almost non-existent problem of antisemitism (link). These are picked up uncritically by the media and serve as a pretext to demand even more money and privilege. Of course the Jews also have their own ethno-religious police force in the form of the Shomrim. The Muslims are now demanding these privileges.

    Yet again we see an example where Jews set an awful precedent of ethno-religious separatism, which then acts as a template to be followed by other ethnic groups. Jewish power is able to bend politicians to its will; then the same politicians are unable to rationally defend the inequality of treatment of other ethno-religious groups.

    This conjures up a nightmare image of Britain’s future, a country divided into ethno-religious factions, each running their own police forces/intelligence agencies/thug squads, all financed by the hard-pressed British taxpayer.

    There is one area of London totally safe from crime (see 10.57am) and even has its own police force.

  65. (((Dr Shipman))) – magnificent response

  66. Even for Tims.

    Now why does that not surprise me?

  67. How bad are things when it takes terrorist supporters to point out the facts:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4643720.stm

    Muslim cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri has claimed the Foreign Office and the media are controlled by Jews.

    And he said Jews in the UK and the US also “controlled money supply”.

    These are facts and I’ll provide links to the jews themselves admitting these facts if anybody disputes them. But, on the ‘white’ doctor Harold Shipman…..

    Asked by David Perry, prosecuting, if he meant that the Foreign Office was controlled by Jews he said: “Yes.”

    “And the media?” Mr Perry asked.

    “Yes,” replied Mr Abu Hamza. “If a doctor kills 250 of his patients there is not a single word about his religion.”

    He was referring to killer Harold Shipman, he added.

    Miraculous – no mention in any (((media))) outlet during the Shipman trials that Shipman, who stole the money of those whom he murdered, is a jew.

  68. Dave.

    Don’t bank on that to your face thingy..now fuck off.

    I’m in Harpenden.

    You can’t be that far away.

    Get back to me.

    Once again, you creep,fuck off.

  69. Muslims are now demanding what the jews already have – their own police force

    Yeah, those Muslims love a good illegal rave.

    Wise the fuck up.

  70. Paul McMahon, on June 21st, 2017 at 3:03 PM Said:

    Even for Tims.

    Now why does that not surprise me?

    Best keep the scarf in the sports bag.

  71. Dave.

    I do believe my wife made me some bullshit private mail address I never use.

    Would you like it?

    Use once and delete.

    It’s quite simple.

  72. You keep telling me to fuck off Harri, but you keep trying to engage in conversation with me. You really are a confused sad little man aren’t you.
    And why the hell would I want your email address?

  73. Paul McMahon, on June 21st, 2017 at 3:07 PM Said:

    Muslims are now demanding what the jews already have – their own police force

    Yeah, those Muslims love a good illegal rave.

    Wise the fuck up.

    Paul – jews in Stamford Hill have theor own police force called ‘Shomrim’. Here is a picture of a Shomrim-car, and it looks like a police car because they are ceded powers equivalent to local police:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2905047/Jewish-patrol-cars-force-London-amid-fears-copycat-attack.html

    Now this is a fact, though lefties term these ‘hate-facts’ because they directly refute the point which the lefty is attempting to make.

    At 2.53pm within the link, one sees a muslim demanding a muslim police force. Given these facts, I have ‘wised the fuck up’ and so should you.

  74. So I can tell you to fuck off to your face.

    It’s quite simple.

  75. And why the hell would I want your email address?

    We can’t be possibly be that far away from each other.

    Harri, on June 21st, 2017 at 3:17 PM Said:
    So I can tell you to fuck off to your face.
    It’s quite simple.

  76. Jesus Christ, you really are a big fucking kid. Challenging me to a fight. Pathetic.
    If you really feel the need to meet face to face Harri, I’m sure we can arrange something.

  77. Harry@hotmail.com

    If that don’t work, I can create others.

    Free all week.

  78. Harri, you’re losing the plot, its cos of you I have temp left, you don’t debate
    just add hysteria .. its awful ..

  79. The Daily Star link was a mini riot after an illegal rave. Fuck all to do with Muslims.

    They are ceded powers equivalent to local police:

    More fake news.

    They are a ‘neighbourhood watch’ group – nothing else:

    We are not a police force. Our unpaid volunteers and unpaid staff are compiled of men and women of the local neighbourhood regardless of their ethnicity or religious affiliation[…]

    Some ill informed comment today. Shomrim Official are a community group with no extra powers, they do a great job & we support them.

  80. Hmmm…. some recent posts are defeating the purpose of ATW which is for robust debate

  81. Allan@ – of course you are correct, my apologies.

    But when someone wails “you wouldn’t tell me to fuck off to my face, you coward”

    What other reaction is expected, you can take the boy from the council estate, but not the council estate out of the boy obviously. 😉

    Jude.

    I don’t care what you think mate.

  82. Anyway.. it is the “day of rage” after all. 😉

  83. Harri – agreed, on all points bar one: I come from a council estate, though in the days of a genuine, aspiring working class before we were betrayed and turned into reservoirs for turd-worlders

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