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SOROS, NOT RUSSIANS

By Pete Moore On November 14th, 2017

The hopeless Prime Minister embarrassed herself last night. Immersing herself in this silly and dangerous anti-Russian hysteria, she accused Vladimir Putin of “planting fake stories” to “undermine the West”. Today the government admitted that has no evidence to back up these claims. As in Washington, there’s nothing there. We are being directed to look at Russia while the real corruption and undermining of the West is much closer to home –

62 Responses to “SOROS, NOT RUSSIANS”

  1. how dare you look for the truth it’s the Russians fault……

    15yrs ago everyone who is now blaming russia for EVERYTHING are the same one who were saying the Soviet Union was not our enemy.

  2. What is the matter with Sir Nigel?.

    Mention George Soros, and it’s a “conspiracy theory”.

    He needs to get with the programme. 😏

  3. Among those acknowledging the Russian interference are Republicans, Conservatives and many Cold Warriors who correctly called out the Soviets for the Evil Empire they were.

  4. In 2012 the Dem/media nexus ridiculed Mitt Romney for saying that Russia is the number one threat to the US. They guffawed at the very idea. But when it suited them, just four years later, Russia became the number one threat.

    These people are laughable.

  5. Difference being Mahons where we conservatives are calling out the complicity of our ideological opposites on their FLAGRANT complicity it truly exists…..

    The left can’t find the smoking gun on the right while they all stand there with a hot barrel in their hands.

  6. I don’t think people see Russia as the number one threat, certainly North Korea is more dangerous. But to pretend Russia hasn’t tried to influence politics in the West is simply silly.

  7. The left could never find a commie they didn’t like, now that the Ruski’s are capitalists they are suddenly in their eyes finally the enemy.

    As they lovingly flock to any commie that pops up down south and line their pockets and their pacs with Darth Soros’s money and dark side machinations.

  8. Well what are your feelings about conservatives who have called out Putin’s Russia?

  9. The ‘Russians’ spent $7,500 during the Presidential campaign and this, we are told to believe, is what won the election for Trump. Given that Hillary’s campaign spent $10million, shouldn’t the Dems consult the Russians for the 2020 race?

  10. Who told you to believe that?

  11. Mahons –

    Show me such a conservative and I’ll show you a War Party neocon – guaranteed.

  12. Putin is an enemy. Russia is an enemy. Has been for 100yrs. We had an opportunity 15yrs or so ago to change that, but we didn’t, we blew our opportunity to push it in a better direction and Putin’s Thugacracy rose in place of the soviets.

  13. Pete what’s the definition of a neocon?

  14. Mahons, on November 14th, 2017 at 7:41 PM Said:

    Who told you to believe that?

    We are told by all TLAs that ‘the Russians meddled’ in support of Trump:

    http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/26/us/2016-presidential-campaign-hacking-fast-facts/index.html

    October 7, 2016 – The Department of Homeland Security and the Office of National Intelligence on Election Security issues a statement declaring that the intelligence community is “confident that the Russian Government directed the recent compromises of emails from US persons and institutions.” According to the statement, document releases on websites WikiLeaks and DCLeaks mirror the methods and motivations of past Russian-directed cyberattacks.

    No evidence is presented but we are told to believe it anyway.

    But the stated expenditure by ‘Russians’ is more than I had cited……

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/06/facebook-political-ads-russia-us-election-trump-clinton

    Facebook said on Wednesday it had found that an influence operation probably based in Russia spent $100,000 on ads promoting divisive social and political messages in a two-year-period through May.

    The company said it found no link to any presidential campaign. Three-quarters of the ads were national in scope, and the rest did not appear to reflect targeting of political swing states as voting neared.

    Facebook did not print the names of any of the suspended pages, but some of them included such words as “refugee” and “patriot”.

    This is a beauty below……

    The findings buttress US intelligence agency conclusions that Russia was actively involved in shaping the election.

    No – they don’t.

    I also understated Hillary’s expenditure…..

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/10/hillary-clinton-breaks-president-obamas-2012-spend/

    The Clinton campaign, Democratic Party and pro-Clinton expenditure committees and PACs spent a record $1.2 billion, twice as much as the $600 million laid out by the Trump camp, Republicans and pro-Trump groups, the New York Post reported.

  15. Various senior American intelligence and investigative personnel say they believe the Russians were meddling in the election.

    Japanese anti-virus firm Trend Micro say that Russians targeted the Macron camp for hacking in the French Presidential election.

    The Brit PM condemns Moscow over ‘sustained campaign of cyber espionage and disruption’.

    The German BfV say cyber attacks were aiming to influence the 2017 elections

    Some radio presenter says it was all George Soros’ fault

    Some bloke in Wessex believes him.

  16. Evidence of ‘Soros’ meddling:

    Allan@Aberdeen, on November 10th, 2017 at 10:43 AM Said:

    The role of ‘Soros’ (he’s a front for more than himself) is no longer hidden

    https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2017/11/05/myth-european-democracy-shocking-revelation.html

    It’s an open secret that the “Soros network” has an extensive sphere of influence in the European Parliament and in other European Union institutions. The list of Soros has been made public recently. The document lists 226 MEPs from all sides of political spectrum, including former President of the European Parliament Martin Schulz, former Belgian PM Guy Verhofstadt, seven vice-presidents, and a number of committee heads, coordinators, and quaestors. These people promote the ideas of Soros, such as bringing in more migrants, same-sex marriages, integration of Ukraine into the EU, and countering Russia. There are 751 members of the European Parliament. It means that the Soros friends have more than one-third of seats.

    The pdf below provides names and purposes etc.

    https://legacy.gscdn.nl/archives/images/soroskooptbrussel.pdf

    Evidence of Russian ‘meddling’ as presented by “various senior American intelligence and investigative personnel”, Japanese anti-virus firm Trend Micro, the British PM and the German BfV

    ______NADA

    Some bloke in Pamplona believes this evidence

  17. An ‘analyst’ in Aberdeen links to a Moscow-based anti-Zionist think tank and web publishing organisation and presents 177 pages of a Gish Gallop as ‘evidence’ that the radio presenter and Wessex bloke were right about Soros causing the very destruction of Western civilisation as we know it.

    I know who I’ll believe thanks

  18. Well, if the “Strategic Culture Foundation” says so, it must be true.

    By the way, and completely coincidentally, isn’t it based in Russia?

  19. Paul –

    Sir Nigel made specific allegations against named people.

    These intel agencies have said nothing publicly, and no specific allegation has been made against anyone with regard to Russia. You’re not dumb, but you’re allowing yourself to be played and misdirected.

  20. Sir Nigel made specific allegations against named people.

    Indeed Pete,

    I wonder would the Nige repeat the ‘specific allegations against named people’ outside the chamber of the Euro Parliament where he wouldn’t be wearing the cloak of ‘absolute immunity for opinions expressed in performance of his duties?’

  21. Paul –

    Yes, he did this evening at 7pm, on his LBC show.

  22. MourneReg, on November 14th, 2017 at 9:34 PM Said:

    Well, if the “Strategic Culture Foundation” says so, it must be true

    No. The “Strategic Culture Foundation” links to a report by the Open Society and I linked to that report at 8.52pm. Unfortunately, it appears to be a link too far for those who really do not want to look at what the organisation itself says about its ‘influence’ over EU institutions, so I’ll simply print the summary below and also a description of this ‘Open Society’ and who funds it.

    https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/

    About George Soros

    George Soros launched his philanthropic work in South Africa in 1979. Since then he has given over $32 billion to fund the Open Society Foundations, which work in over 100 countries around the world.

    Purpose
    This mapping provides the Open Society European Policy Institute and the Open Society network intelligence on Members of the 8th European Parliament likely to support Open Society values during the 2014–2019 legislature.
    It spans 11 committees and 26 delegations, as well as the European Parliament’s
    highest decision-making bodies: 226 MEPs who are proven or likely Open Society allies.
    The presence of an MEP in this mapping indicates that they are likely to
    support Open Society’s work. They should be approached with an open mind: although they will most likely want to work on areas they’re already interested in, they could also welcome hearing about new issues.
    Beyond discussing individual topics, Open Society should seek to build lasting
    and trustworthy relationships with these European lawmakers.

    So there it is: George Soros and his Open Society groups have 226 ‘allies’ in the European Parliament and among the bureaucrats although confirmation of the latter would require the doubter to actually open the link provided (again) below:

    https://legacy.gscdn.nl/archives/images/soroskooptbrussel.pdf

    Paul – out of interest, what is it that you need for me to provide to you as evidence of Soros’s agencies meddling in governmental affairs? What does it take?

  23. What, with Lembit Opek?

    http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nigel-farage/lembit-opik-rings-lbc-to-accuse-nigel-farage-of-me/

    Tell me, what ‘specific allegations against named people’ did he make on air?

  24. You’re not dumb, but you’re allowing yourself to be played and misdirected.

    Might want to take a look in the mirror, Pete.

  25. I think it would be honest to say that both Soros and Putin are for different reasons heavily involved in trying to influence global affairs to suit their interests. Soros s an individual with great financial power but Putin is a head of state with much greater author active power and it is right for western governments to be more wary and concerned for security reasons of his and his State’s endeavours.

  26. ……and it is right for western governments to be more wary and concerned for security reasons of his and his State’s endeavours

    Ah – Putin is going to flood Europe with millions of blacks and muslims as Soros is doing?

    The fact is that ‘Soros’ (he’s the front for several others) is buying politicians for them to do his bidding whereas Putin has just seen an expansion eastwards to the very borders of Russia by a military organisation which should have moved no further than the Oder

  27. The Russians spreading propaganda and fake news? Surely not?

    Russia’s Ministry of Defence has posted what it called “irrefutable proof” of the US aiding so-called Islamic State – but one of the images was actually taken from a video game.
    The ministry claimed the image showed an IS convoy leaving a Syrian town last week aided by US forces.
    Instead, it came from the smartphone game AC-130 Gunship Simulator: Special Ops Squadron.
    The ministry said an employee had mistakenly attached the photo.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41991012

  28. Russian hackers attacked British media, telecoms and energy companies over the last year, the head of the UK’s National Cyber Security Centre has confirmed for the first time

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/nov/15/russian-hackers-targeted-uk-media-and-telecoms-firms-confirms-spy-chief

    Now we know where ATW Rightworld are really from 🙂

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/nov/14/how-400-russia-run-fake-accounts-posted-bogus-brexit-tweets

  29. PM May is claiming that Russia also interfered with elections in the UK.

    Russia obviously had an interest in Britain leaving the EU and plunging into the total mess it’s now in. For this, Russia needed useful fools like Brexiters.

    The referendum must be declared invalid.

  30. President Trump is bending over backwards to absolve Russia and conceal what it’s doing, but these proud Britons are not afraid to state the truth

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-41973043

  31. Russia obviously had an interest in Britain leaving the EU and plunging into the total mess it’s now in. For this, Russia needed useful fools like Brexiters.

    The referendum must be declared invalid

    Indeed Noel. Probably engineered from somewhere like this:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/02/putin-kremlin-inside-russian-troll-house

  32. From Paul’s first link……

    Russian hackers attacked British media, telecoms and energy companies over the last year, the head of the UK’s National Cyber Security Centre has confirmed for the first time.

    Ciaran Martin, the founding chief executive of the NCSC, declined to provide any further details of the attacks.

    The second link has more credibility because…….

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/mar/17/us-spy-operation-social-networks

    The US military is developing software that will let it secretly manipulate social media sites by using fake online personas to influence internet conversations and spread pro-American propaganda.

    The discovery that the US military is developing false online personalities – known to users of social media as “sock puppets” – could also encourage other governments, private companies and non-government organisations to do the same.

    Of course, in the Brexit referendum, the UK government was neutral as was the EU.

  33. Although the real question that needs to be asked is what has Pete Moore done with the real Noel?

  34. Is it dark in that Saint Petersburg trollhouse comrade Al?

  35. But back to ‘Soros’ – he’s not going away, you know.

    Breitbart reports Farage’s revelations as follows:

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/11/14/farage-soros-allies-international-political-collusion-history/

    Farage said…..

    Just last week the Electoral Commission in the UK launched an investigation to find out whether the Leave campaign took offshore money or Russian money.

    “This came about as a result of questions asked in the House of Commons by one Ben Bradshaw, somebody linked to an organisation called Open Society.

    So an MP funded by Soros asks whether Brexit received Russian money

    Farage continues…..

    “Open Society boasts that they had 42 forty-two meetings last year with the European Commisision. They’ve even published a book of ‘reliable’ friends in the European Parliament and there are 226 names on that list — including yours, sir! I thought you’d find this interesting!” he told a heckling MEP.

    That document by Open Society is linked at 8.52pm and 10.57pm and it reads as

    This mapping provides the Open Society European Policy Institute and the Open Society network intelligence on Members of the 8th European Parliament likely to support Open Society values during the 2014–2019 legislature.
    It spans 11 committees and 26 delegations, as well as the European Parliament’s
    highest decision-making bodies: 226 MEPs who are proven or likely Open Society allies.
    The presence of an MEP in this mapping indicates that they are likely to
    support Open Society’s work.

    Farage requests that questions be put to these representatives of the people…….

    “If we’re going to have a debate, and we’re going to talk about full political and financial transperency, well, let’s do it!

    “So I shall be writing today to all 226 of you, asking some pretty fair questions:

    “Have you ever received funds, directly or indirectly, from Open Society?

    “How many of their events have you attended?

    “Could you please give us a list of the meetings of all the representatives [you have met], including George Soros [himself]?”

    And ‘Soros’ is a far greater security risk to the countries of Europe than Putin. One can see with one’s own eyes that eastern Germany, Poland, and the Czech Republic are German, Polish and Czech. One cannot say that London is British, that Brussels is Belgian or that Berlin is German because they are not and their respective local authorities are boastful of this fact.

    As for Paris, here is video footage comparing it with Moscow

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNmm4D3HPj0

    nativetexanful
    1 year ago
    The subway in Moscow is so clean and beautiful with decent, well-dressed people, while the subway in Paris is full of sub-human savages.

    That ‘nativetexanful’ is almost certainly a Russian troll because what he writes is………..actually, what he writes is correct. OMG!!!

  36. Radioman the Nige says the Russians are nothing to worry about.

    Yeah? but what about Paris

    The Trolls from Aberdeen Olginoin free flow:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Research_Agency

  37. Indeed Paul – clearly not your preferred IRA

    Yeah? but what about Paris

    As shown at 12.36pm, Soros and his policies are a greater threat to Europeans than Putin and the contrast between Paris or any major city in western Europe and Moscow could not be made more clear. This is the result of the EU as funded by Soros, and yes, Soros does own a substantial chunk of the EU’s institutions and the UK’s MPs as Nigel farage demonstrated

  38. Indeed Paul – clearly not your preferred IRA

    No, I do admire their choice of abbreviation though.

    Is must be cold in Saint Petesburgh at this time of year comrade?

  39. It’s remarkably white, almost as white as a Waitrose Christmas advertisement

  40. But not quite as white as the multi culti mecca of Aberdeen eh?

    Na Zdorovie comrade.

  41. I see that measures taken in the US against that dangerous source RT are being replicated by Russia against US and other foreign corporate media:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/moscow-prepares-retaliation-over-us-designation-of-rt-channel-as-foreign-agent/2017/11/14/e48d54f8-c951-11e7-b506-8a10ed11ecf5_story.html?utm_term=.b2fd798e02e6

    Russian lawmakers and other public officials, including Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, claimed Tuesday that they were forced to respond with stricter regulations of foreign media in Russia.

    “It’s not we who started this, but we can’t just swallow this gross violation of democratic norms, international law and freedom of speech, and we have to give a mirrored response,” said Valentina Matviyenko, head of Russia’s upper house of parliament, in remarks carried by the Interfax news service.

    Clearly the US DoJ is in a bind. Does it restrict RT’s accurate reporting of how bad things are in the US (before Trump’s election) at the cost of Soros’s agents being restricted in Russia?

    Russia denies it meddled in the 2016 election, and RT has accused the U.S. Justice Department of impinging on free speech. In a statement, the Justice Department said the U.S. legislation, the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA), merely informs the public without inhibiting “freedom of expression.”

    What’s sauce for the goose……..

  42. RT=Pravda=Fake News 100% in the service of KGB thug Putin and his fellow Oligarchs.

  43. RT is one of the few media sources that describes the terrible circumstances of those outside the bubble. The predicament of many ordinary Americans (it’s the same over here) is linked to the likes of Soros:

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/nov/08/bill-gates-jeff-bezos-warren-buffett-wealthier-than-poorest-half-of-us

    The three richest people in the US – Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos and Warren Buffett – own as much wealth as the bottom half of the US population, or 160 million people.

    Analysis of the wealth of America’s richest people found that Gates, Bezos and Buffett were sitting on a combined $248.5bn (£190bn) fortune. The Institute for Policy Studies said the growing gap between rich and poor had created a “moral crisis”.

    You cannot spend a billion dollars on an individual lavish lifestyle. You cannot live in ten mansions and you cannot sleep with 100 ‘high-class’ hookers per day. You cannot drive 100 Italian sports cars. You cannot wear 1000 Gucci suits. You cannot eat 1000 steaks. This wealth is simply being hoarded and the sole reason to hoard wealth is to keep it in your own hands and out of the hands of others. In first-world countries, there is enough to give everyone a very comfortable quality of life yet the means to do so are being held by just a few people. The reason that these people are holding it is specifically to keep everyone else from having it.

    The wealth acquired by these mobsters should be confiscated because these oligarchs are running and ruining our countries.

  44. Gates, Bezos and Buffett ( unlike Trump ) are self made billionaires.

    What business is it of yours how much money they have?

    Why not write about how Putin mysteriously became rich

  45. Gates, Bezos and Buffett ( unlike Trump ) are self made billionaires.

    The three richest people in the US – Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos and Warren Buffett – own as much wealth as the bottom half of the US population, or 160 million people.

    These “self-made billionaires” have been of no benefit to the people of the US. How much money do these oligarchs need? Do you really believe that they don’t contort the system for their own gain? After all, the ‘foundations’ have been shown to be one means by which taxes are evaded and taxpayers’ money ends up in the coffers of these oligarchs.

  46. It’s none of your business how much they need.

    Gates built a great software company.

    Bezos built the best online retailer / etc company, one that I have used many times over a decade plus, and with I have great satisfaction. They execute very well.

    Buffett is the best investor in history who has made a fortune for his fellow shareholders

    If what they do is so easy, why don’t you become a billionaire by such brilliant performance?

  47. Phantom – here’s some interesting fake news from RT:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=122&v=x52hu0ilm4E

    The U.S. army’s widening its recruitment pool – by allowing people with a history of serious mental illness to enlist, but psychiatrists warn that it could cause further harm to vulnerable recruits. RT’s Caleb Maupin has more…

    guachingman
    1 day ago
    Maybe people is tired of fighting the jews racketeering wars

    proteusx
    1 day ago
    The US army of niggers, dykes and transvestites will be now enriched with lunatics.

    Disclaimer – these comments could be by Russian agents regardless of their veracity

  48. The US Army recruitment pool?

    Jesus Christ. That really is the king of extraneous whataboutery.

  49. It’s information, Paul, information. Whataboutery is when we show how rapey blacks and muslims are with white women en masse and you find some white rapist to show that ‘whites are just as bad’.

    In this case, Phantom says……

    Phantom, on November 15th, 2017 at 5:02 PM Said:

    RT=Pravda=Fake News 100% in the service of KGB thug Putin and his fellow Oligarchs.

    so I link directly to some of RT’s fake news which shows from US sources that the mentally-ill are being recruited to the US Army.

  50. As I’ve said before, RT is an entirely non commercial Enterprise which serves the interests of Putin and the other oligarchs in Russia, by airing uncomplementary things about the United States and other western countries

    If you force yourself to watch it for a month, you will see an endless stream of reports about how horrible it is in America, but you’ll never see a critical piece about Russia. They hardly report on the huge nation of Russia at all, despite the fact that their base is Moscow!

    It is a pure anti western propaganda channel, in the tradition of Pravda and the broadcasts of Lord Haw Haw.

  51. RT is Pravda.

    Period

  52. The Nige makes unsubstantiated allegations about a Brit MP and George Soros Ernst Blofeld, trying to deflect from Putin’s troll army.

    Yeah, but how about those mad queers in the US military?

    FFS give your head a shake man.

  53. lol that’s asking a lot…..

  54. If you force yourself to watch it for a month, you will see an endless stream of reports about how horrible it is in America, but you’ll never see a critical piece about Russia.

    Phantom – as I’ve written several times previously,I know that!

    I’ve just posted an example of reporting by RT of the recruitment policy of the US Army which could have wider consequences because, as you know, the US Army is everywhere – for some reason, possibly defending America’s border with Iran and Pakistan.

  55. Will be happy to discuss the US Army at some other time, but not in the context of one sided reporting by the Putin/Oligarch dirty station.

  56. Putin/Oligarch dirty station.

    Alex Salmond has defended his new show on Russia Today by noting that Jeremy Corbyn, John McDonnell and Diane Abbott have all appeared on and supported the Putin propaganda channel. Remember when Jezza told his followers to “try Russia Today”…

    https://order-order.com/2017/11/16/salmond-russia-today-good-enough-corbyn-good-enough/

  57. The Russian point of view should be expressed. Even the likes of Putin has a point to make, the US/EU has not always been fair to Russia.

    But RT is so clumsy, so amateurish despite the Fox like technical slickness , so one sided, that no one can ever take it seriously.

    Their slogan is ” Question More ” – but they never question anything.. There is no spirit of genuine enquiry at any time. Just a constant stream of propaganda that might have been written by Sergey Lavrov.

    https://cdni.rt.com/files/news/20/11/b0/00/rt-million-facebook-likes.si.jpg

  58. If RT are paying Dianne Abbott, Alex Salmond, John McDonnel, and Steptoe Corbyn to appear on their channel, then they must be as equally desperate as the BBC.

  59. Remember when Jezza told his followers to “try Russia Today”…

    Commies agreeing with state run media? Surley not?

    What is astonishing is that raving Rightworld and mad Marxist Corbyn have common ground.

  60. Alex Jones has been chummy with RT in the past

    And even now there is a respect between Putin/RT and Infowars.

    RT was partially modelled on Infowars. ( First, you lie all the time )

    https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2017/01/12/rt-host-alex-jones-putin-told-me-say-hi-alex/214997

    Radio host and prominent Donald Trump ally Alex Jones was told by an RT host that Russian President Vladimir Putin asked him to “say hi to Alex.” Jones has claimed that he was told years ago that “Putin’s a big listener” and was previously informed that the “Russian government listens to” his show and the Kremlin partially “modeled” RT off of his Infowars network.

  61. Jones has claimed [….]

    ‘Nuff said.

  62. Never assume that a guy like that lies all the time

    He lies much of the time, that is known, but he is tied into the Trump support network, and I absolutely would have no problem believing that Putin knows who he is.

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