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YOU’LL NEVER GET A DAIL MAIL ON THE VIRGIN EXPRESS….

By David Vance On January 10th, 2018

Interesting to see that we are now being told what newspapers we can buy.

Virgin Trains has announced that it has stopped selling the Daily Mail newspaper on its West Coast trains. A spokesperson for Virgin said it regularly reviewed products sold on its trains, adding that “after listening to feedback from our people” it decided to stop stocking copies of the paper. A Daily Mail spokesman called the decision “disgraceful”.

Just a few points.

  1. The Daily Mail has a circulation of 1.8m. That is almost double that of its left wing alternative, the Daily Mirror. It is the second biggest selling UK newspaper, behind The Sun. Its popularity would suggest people like it.
  2. I wonder who the “our people” are precisely – could it be the agitprop group Hope not Hate?
  3. Virgin make a play of refusing to see this widly popular newspaper on moral grounds Virgin recently sued the NHS.
  4. I will not be using any service provided by Branson going forward!

I couldn’t care less if a newspaper is right, left or otherwise, this sort of censorship is appalling. As is Branson.

52 Responses to “YOU’LL NEVER GET A DAIL MAIL ON THE VIRGIN EXPRESS….”

  1. What, this Richard Branson…

    We were by the bar and he was saying bye to everyone. He came up to me and put his face in my breasts. He went ‘brrrrrr’ and just walked away.”

    Branson didn’t deny it and apologised – also saying he “had no recollection”…

    A lecture on values from Richard Branson, who F1 star Jenson Button recalled had stared at and then touched his girlfriend:

    “Although Jessica was a model, she was quite shy, so this was making her feel uncomfortable. Especially when Sir Richard followed up his blatant flirting by putting his hand on her face.”

    https://order-order.com/2018/01/09/motorboat-branson-lectures-mail-values/

  2. I suppose a private railway can sell what it wants, and have absurd reasons for doing so. Howver, I agree that this is in the spirit of censorship, even if it isn’t precisely censorship. I suppose we are stuck with Virgin and no wise men.

  3. I hope his private island sinks into the sea.

    The self-righteous twat.

  4. Deeply stupid decision by someone ( Branson ) who is normally smart.

    I am a boycotter of boycotts most of the time. Remind me to buy the Daily Mail the next time I am in town.

    Which will be on a Virgin flight. I will be sure to ask for the paper on the plane.

  5. Phantom.

    I will mail you tomorrow afternoon.

  6. Oh dear…

    Branson’s health service avoids UK corporation tax while racking up millions in NHS profit

    Richard Branson’s Virgin Care Services has failed to pay any corporation tax in the UK, despite the private health service racking up over £15 million in profit from NHS contracts over the past two years.
    The private health service earned more than £200 million from the National Health Service in the past financial year, a jump of over 50 percent from the previous 12 months.

    https://www.rt.com/uk/415364-branson-virgin-nhs-tax/

  7. A silly decision.

    The Daily Mail is a purveyor of impending doom, laughably reactionary with a penchant for oddball “Readers’ Digest” type stories.

    And yet it is strangely readable.

  8. OK

    There will be three wise men there, from Belfast, Wessex and Brooklyn.

  9. Branson’s business Branson’s rules? That’ll be that individual choice and freedom again.

    Don’t want ‘to be told what newspapers you can buy?’ from a private enterprise Don’t use Branson’s services.

  10. Virgin Trains are one of the worst examples of crony-capitalism in the UK. Last month our unbelievably bad government allowed them to walk away from their franchise commitments on the East Coast Railway. Virgin whined that their bid had assumed the track would be upgraded sooner than it now will be and the government fell for it. That’s crony-capitalism in action. Real capitalism would have held them to the contract and sued them if they failed to honour it.

  11. And then there is crony-capitalist Virgin Care. Sir Richard himself is domiciled in the BVI, natch.

    “Sir Richard Branson’s Virgin Care saw a 50 per cent rise in revenues to £200m in its latest financial year, helped by a series of new NHS outsourcing contracts. The company made an £8m profit in the year to the end of March 2017 but paid no corporation tax, its latest accounts show. That was because the company is part of the larger Virgin Care group, the parent company of which declared a loss of £19.3m.

    The web of companies is ultimately owned by a company registered in the tax haven of the British Virgin Islands, where Sir Richard is domiciled.”

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/virgin-care-services-richard-branson-nhs-privatisation-contracts-jeremy-corbyn-a8152181.html

  12. I’m sure those that are arguing for the NHS to be privatised are in complete agreement Peter.

  13. I was unaware that Branson had talents in the medical field.

  14. After 2016 successful businessmen don’t need talents in specialist fields Phantom.

  15. I was unaware that Branson had talents in the medical field.

    Branson could write the crony-capitalist manual. From his head.

    Real capitalists are entrepreneurs like Tim Martin. He has built a successful pub chain from scratch without help from the taxpayers of the UK. In fact in spite of tax laws which favour supermakets over pubs.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wetherspoons

  16. I like his airline

    Virgin Atlantic a bit friendlier than the US airlines or than British Air

  17. Real capitalists are entrepreneurs like Tim Martin. He has built a successful pub chain from scratch without help from the taxpayers of the UK. In fact in spite of tax laws which favour supermakets over pubs

    Indeed Peter. The death of the independent publican:

    https://www.irishnews.com/news/northernirelandnews/2018/01/09/news/planned-wetherspoon-s-bar-in-belfast-s-royal-avenue-refused-licence-1228518/

  18. This is just politics and PR.

    The Daily Mail is a pro-Brexit paper with decent, suburban values.

    Branson is a pro-EU headbanger (who lives in the British Virgin Islands and bases most of his firms in Switzerland). This is simply trying to keep in with the anti-EU/SJW crowd.

    The hoot is that Branson has a dig at “Daily Mail values” while he’s a serial groper of young women.

  19. As a private business concern it’s his right Pete?

  20. It doesn’t make sense.

    As far as I can see, many of those who ride intercity trains are middle aged and older people.

    And many of those folks in the UK would be DM readers. Why irritate them when you don’t have to?

    Not smart.

    I’d be like Ryanair, sell them everything you can that’s legal.

  21. The Daily Mail is owned by the patriotic Lord Rothermere who is domiciled in France for tax reasons. He is an even bigger tax dodger than Branson.

  22. Peter –

    Real capitalism would have held them to the contract and sued them if they failed to honour it.

    If Virgin was in breach of contract, absolutely. Since 2010, under Cameron and Osborne and till today, the Tories have been far too close to their corporate chums. HS2 and subsidised first time home buyers are simply mega-billion transfers from the taxpayer to infrastructure firms and house builders.

  23. As a private business concern it’s his right Pete?

    Yes Paul. As a private business, his sole concern is (and should be) shareholder value.

    And as a freeborn Englishman I’m entitled to say he’s full of BS.

  24. Pete

    Virgin was in breach of contract. But Grayling applied the usual crony-capialist rules.

    Yes, housebuilding is just as bad. The “help to buy” should be renamed the welfare for housebuilders subsidy:

    “The chief executive of housebuilder Persimmon has insisted he deserves his £110m bonus because he has “worked very hard” to reinvigorate the housing market.

    Jeff Fairburn collected the first £50m worth of shares on New Year’s Eve from the record-breaking bonus scheme that has been described as “obscene” and “corporate looting”. He will qualify for another £60m of profits from the scheme this year. Speaking for the first time since the award was confirmed, he repeatedly refused to state whether or not he intends to donate any of the money to charity.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/jan/09/persimmon-profits-chief-bonus-scheme

  25. I heard about the Persimmon chief’s .. erm, compensation. My immediate thought was that George Osborne did it all for him. I still think so.

    These mega sums pop up as a sign of bubble economies forming. Corporate memories are very short. I don’t mind that if the corporates who have overstretched are left alone to pay the price when markets readjust and liquidate bad investments.

  26. Peter, on January 10th, 2018 at 9:13 PM Said:
    The Daily Mail is owned by the patriotic Lord Rothermere who is domiciled in France for tax reasons. He is an even bigger tax dodger than Branson.

    Peter.

    It is worth mentioning that most of the UK’s big media organisations shelter assets and cash flows offshore. Top of the hypocrites in this respect is The Guardian. They put their assets in the Caymans, and they used a Luxembourg tax shell designed by PriceWaterhouseCoopers to funnel cash flows beyond the reach of HMRC. They previously blamed the difficult economic environment for committing the sins for which they condemn others. This isn’t just hypocrisy, this is an insult to us all. The Guardian’s entire heritage is one of tax dodging, the original founding Scott Trust was itself a tax dodge. They have year after year avoided tens of millions of taxes…

    https://order-order.com/2016/04/04/media-organisations-using-offshore-havens/

  27. “Help to buy” will go down in history as the worst-ever market interference in the UK housing market.. As totally predicted, it has simply inflated the prices of new houses to the profit of the housebuilders. Because it used taxpayer subsidies to boost demand while doing jack-shit to boost supply.

    But Hammond extended it in the November budget and it could become a permanent fixture. In which case there should be a permanent additional levy on housebuilder profits in order to prevent obscene crony-capitalist troughery like £100 million bonuses which have not been earned. That’s if they want to avoid pitchforks and torches.

  28. Yes Paul. As a private business, his sole concern is (and should be) shareholder value

    Yep Pete and as chairman of the Virgin Group I’m sure he’s in a much better position to ascertain the feelings of his shareholders than you.

    No doubt his Virgin share price will now plummet because of not stocking the Daily Lie Mail on his trains.

  29. his sole concern is (and should be) shareholder value

    That is not the sole concern of any ethical business person

    Other concerns are the good of the customer, the good of the employee, the good of the society that you operate in.

    In ATW, I know that makes you a communist, but the very best business people actually do think like this and are not -only- in it for themselves or the shareholders.

  30. Why does it matter when you can pull it up on your phone, tablet or laptop for free?

  31. An unlimited subscription is not free. And there are some who don’t have phones/tablets or who prefer paper when reading long articles( me! )

  32. That’s an interesting article there on Guido,

    The Guardian

    used a Luxembourg tax shell designed by PriceWaterhouseCoopers to funnel cash flows beyond the reach of HMRC which wasn’t just hypocrisy, this is an insult to us all. The Guardian’s entire heritage is one of tax dodging

    While, The owners of the Mail, News UK and The Telegraph also have various offshore
    tax-efficient structures

    Spot the difference?

    It also strangely didn’t say anything about Jonathan Harmsworth tax dodging ‘domiciled’ in the EU France.

  33. If you want to understand the British press the best thing to do is to turn to the satirists:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbWiysSqKRA

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGscoaUWW2M

    In those two clips the absolute best bits is a) seeing Stephen K Amos, a black, gay comedian, trying to work out should he laugh or be offended at the “Queers, Blacks and Crime” bit, or b) watching the great Nigel Hawthorne trying not to break character and laugh in the second one.

  34. Phantom, I don’t think you’ll get any long articles in the Lie Mail.

  35. Paul

    For your convenience, sign right up

    https://www.mailsubscriptions.co.uk/jansale

  36. I don’t think you really get articles in the Daily Wail, just some homophobic “journalist” watches gay porn for two seconds and then vomits on a blank piece of paper.

  37. I pull it up several times a week and access all sorts of crazy articles (ROYALS!!!) and have never hit a paywall.

  38. I think the Mail Online, their website, is free but online copies of the newspaper itself are not.

  39. It’s reputation precedes me Phantom,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYALWd–CvI

  40. That Yes, Prime Minister video is a couple of the best comedy minutes ever written, and still as pertinent now as at the time.

    The Mail Online is free and (journalistically) brilliant. No news site grabs the reader’s attention like it.

  41. Seamus 1041

    They’re nuts then.

  42. Newspapers don’t get money from readership or from people buying their newspaper. It’s all about advertising. In most airports in the UK you can buy a bottle of water for £2.50 (captive audience and all that). If you buy the Torygraph (which costs £1.80) then you get a free bottle of water. So they are effectively selling the water for -70p as long as you take the paper. The reason is it drives up circulation numbers which raises their advertising revenue.

    So the Mail Online website has a tonne of advertising. Same with most of the online papers in the UK.

  43. //YOU’LL NEVER GET A DAIL MAIL ON THE VIRGIN //

    or

    YOU’LL NEVER GET A MALE ON A VIRGIN IN THE DAIL

  44. hehe Noel, the story is funny, its now becoming indecent to be seen reading the Mail.
    lol it’ll be soon like Mayfair or penthouse, people will bring their Mail on the traines and sandwiched it between a work folder .. Hilarious story.
    sorry phantom I am committed .. i’m the bass player ..

  45. MAIL VIRGIN BAN

  46. Seamus

    Then why does the New York Times charge me $36 a month

  47. No idea. Though I’m sure the New York Times probably have deals similar to the Telegraph to try and increase their official circulation in order to attract better advertising money.

  48. Then why does the New York Times charge me $36 a month

    Because you agree to pay that Mexican crook $36 a month. Go upmarket, impress your friends and be better informed by reading the Mail Online for free.

  49. No wonder that the Daily Mail is getting banned from sales points:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5252471/Top-grammar-school-bans-calling-pupils-girls.html

    For more than a century it has educated generations of girls.

    But one of the country’s top-performing state schools has baffled parents by informing them its staff will in future use ‘gender-neutral language’ when talking to or about children.

    Altrincham Grammar School for Girls in Manchester fears that using the ‘g-word’ could result in pupils who are changing sex being ‘misgendered’.

    Pupils are likely to be addressed as ‘students’ instead.

    However despite the ban, the 1,350-pupil school has no plans to drop the term from its name.

    The Daily Mail cannot print lies like this. It cannot be true for, if it were, all the most absurd views on ‘progressive’ agendas would be true: surely not?

  50. well the DM should be honest just call it THE HATE MAIL

  51. Seamus

    The NYT gets significantly more digital revenue from subscriptions than it does from advertising.

    And The future, and present of papers like that is digital

    Without subscriber revenue, quality papers would disappear.

    Breakdown here
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/01/business/media/new-york-times-earnings.html?smprod=nytcore-ipad&smid=nytcore-ipad-share NYTimes: New York Times Co. Reports Solid Digital Growth as Print Slides

  52. Probably just different business models. The Mail Online turned profit last year (the only thing keeping the Daily Mail in the black as all their other titles declined in revenue).

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