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ATW OPEN THREAD

By Pete Moore On February 10th, 2018

Right, I’m off to the local to watch rugby, drink beer and put my feet up by the fire. Needs met. Have yourselves an Open Thread then, one decorated with a view of Bavaria.

Tell us what you know –

154 Responses to “ATW OPEN THREAD”

  1. Ireland pretty much demolishing the Italian defence.

  2. Nice picture of Bavaria – here’s another:

    https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-2f0aa320efcd8a32b880b73e2d5fa44b

  3. And the mess gets even messier:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/10/world/middleeast/israel-iran-syria.html

  4. Hey jude – your blackened ‘Oktoberfest’ reminded me of this. The ‘Cheddar man’ is now the property of the alt-right 🙂

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVoWJdGU8AAunoX.jpg

  5. Lol!

    😂😂😂😂

  6. Unfortunately England have beaten Wales. They clearly intend to bore their way to another Six Nations title.

  7. That smirk on Cheddar Girl – it’s a typical SJW smirk, isn’t it? Were they around in those days?

  8. Watch Bill Maher point out the problems with #METoo which is morphing into McCarthyism:

    https://www.mediaite.com/tv/bill-maher-goes-off-on-fcking-fragile-millennials-in-metoo-movement/

  9. The smirk of the future Duchess of Sussex.

    Bow and curtsey before her Brit commoner serfs.

  10. They are still around today…

    http://awesome98.com/files/2012/05/tan-mom.jpg?w=600&h=0&zc=1&s=0&a=t&q=89

  11. Missed the England v Wales game. Sounds like it was a wise move.

  12. Read Nick Cohen on how the extreme Brexiters see traitors everywhere they look, and with more than a whiff of the old Rightard anti-semitism:

    “On the right, the heresy-hunter is the Tory press, which performs the policing role social media plays on the left. Five years ago, if you had offered right-wing MPs and newspapers a deal in which Britain left the EU and single market but stayed in the customs union for the sake of trade and peace in Ireland, they would have taken it with delight. The pressure to move to the extreme means they now regard even this modest concession as a crime.

    In these circumstances, you can see why the Telegraph, Mail and Sun tear up the old constraints and turn George Soros from an elderly philanthropist and political donor into a Jewish conspirator with the supernatural power to overturn governments and referendum results. They calculate that few “respectable” Conservatives will challenge them and those who do can be damned. The Brexit campaign was always based on a conspiracy theory and eventually every conspiracy reaches the Jews. You start by saying that economists warning of trouble ahead were bought and sold with Brussels gold and end by gibbering about puppet masters and the Rothschilds.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/feb/10/brexiters-now-march-with-toxic-conspirators-of-orbans-hungary

  13. England vs Wales was an intense and intriguing match. But little things change perspective.

    Last week Johnny Sexton was the hero of a dramatic last-gasp win in Paris. That ignores that Sexton and Ireland were crap for 78 minutes. Ireland didn’t make a single line break in the entire match. Not a single one. But the finale masked all that.

    Twickenham saw a half decent match. It just didn’t have a last minute winner.

  14. https://www.suffolkgazette.com/business/british-car-brexit/

  15. Twickenham saw a half decent match.

    No Pete, it was a bore. The only highlight was the amazing tackle that prevented a try for Wales in the second half. Both teams were well below their best.

  16. Brexit is in trouble. Theresa May needs to face down the Rees-Mogg faction and commit the UK to stay in the Customs Union. If she doesen’t, the hard-core Remainers will be emboldended to derail Brexit entirely:

    “Indecision and evasion can only work for so long. In the next few weeks the prime minister could find herself defeated in both houses of parliament over key elements of her Brexit policy. It is likely that the Lords will pass amendments backing the UK’s permanent membership of the customs union. It could also ask for membership of the single market to be kept on the table. The Commons could then follow suit and back customs union membership for good, not least to solve Irish border issues that are among the most potentially explosive in the entire Brexit debate.

    This would be a severe blow to the prime minister’s core hard-Brexit strategy. The right of her party would be furious, seeing Brexit slipping away, and might plot to remove her. But the hard-Brexit ideologues are also divided on the matter of who to replace her with – Boris Johnson, Michael Gove, Jacob Rees-Mogg. Neither are they certain that a change would really help their cause.

    Another catalyst for a parliamentary revolt against hard Brexit could be the 3 May local elections, when the Tories are likely to be routed in London and other cities. Heavy losses will spell more trouble as Tory MPs would fear an emergency Brexit-induced general election. In the meantime, May needs to have finalised arrangements for the two-year transition with the EU in time for a 22 March EU summit. That now looks unlikely. Relations between EU chief negotiator Michel Barnier and Brexit secretary David Davis hit a new low on Friday. Barnier is rejecting UK demands – ones that May has been forced to table by hardline Brexiters – that the UK should be able to block EU laws during the transition. The idea of a country that has just chosen to leave the EU wanting access to all its markets after departing but also wanting the right to block the 27 members from changing their rules has not gone down well in Brussels. There are now fears that the talks on the next phase – the post transition “end state” – will have to be delayed, casting the whole timetable into doubt.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/feb/10/brexit-theresa-may-problems-to-resolve-end-of-year-tory-leadership?CMP=twt_gu

  17. Peter, on February 10th, 2018 at 8:02 PM Said:

    Read (((Nick Cohen))) on how the extreme Brexiters see traitors everywhere they look, and with more than a whiff of the old Rightard anti-semitism:

    …..and turn George Soros from an elderly philanthropist and political donor into a Jewish conspirator…..

    But Peter – is it true? Does truth matter as soon as jews are mentioned?

    Harri, on February 9th, 2018 at 3:42 PM Said:

    Ah, it’s on Sly News.

    Apparently, attacking George Soros against his Globalist agenda is…”anti-Semitic”

    It’s hard to believe it, but it’s absolutely true:

    https://diversitymachtfrei.wordpress.com/2018/02/08/if-left-unchecked-the-problem-of-goyim-noticing-inevitably-becomes-one-of-goyim-knowing/

    Following immediately on the Daily Telegraph’s report of George Soros funding an anti-Brexit campaign comes the charge of antisemitism.

    The Jew even admits there is not a single word or any other element of the article that hints at antisemitism. But somehow, his Goyim Noticing detector has been triggered. And we all know where Goyim Noticing leads, don’t we? Unless checked hard, it leads to Goyim Knowing.

    Here are extracts from the Guardian article, written by (((Rafael Behr))):

    There are several in the linked article but I’ll just copy one….

    …Soros’s name turns up in far-right protests across the former eastern bloc, but also in the US, where he is a hate figure for Trumpian ultras. He has been accused of paying for anti-Trump protests. He has been accused of meddling in the US election. He has been accused of trying to dilute Christian white culture in Europe by orchestrating influxes of Muslim refugees. And now he is accused by the Daily Telegraph of conspiring against Brexit. A busy man indeed.

    Within the paragraph above, everything stated in the ‘accusation’ of anti-semitism is verifiably true and each point has been linked to source material by me, Pete and Harri. In the world of today, truth is no defence.

  18. A couple of great tries as well Peter. There were a couple of great tries as well as Underhill destroying Welsh hearts.

    Good defence counts too. That’s as appreciable as dry humping an appalling Italian team for an hour before losing the discipline to keep them out.

  19. Where does the harmless elderly philanthropist put ‘his’ money?

    Allan@Aberdeen, on February 8th, 2018 at 10:36 PM Said:

    Soros has committed $18 billion to foment trouble. $18 billion can buy a shit-load of trouble, and here’s where…….

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/14/george-soros-funds-ferguson-protests-hopes-to-spur/

    Mr. Soros spurred the Ferguson protest movement through years of funding and mobilizing groups across the U.S., according to interviews with key players and financial records reviewed by The Washington Times.

    In all, Mr. Soros gave at least $33 million in one year to support already-established groups that emboldened the grass-roots, on-the-ground activists in Ferguson, according to the most recent tax filings of his nonprofit Open Society Foundations.

    http://jewishbusinessnews.com/2015/09/28/george-soros-rebuilding-the-asylum-system/

    First, the EU has to accept at least a million asylum-seekers annually for the foreseeable future. And, to do that, it must share the burden fairly – a principle that a qualified majority finally established at last Wednesday’s summit.

    wrote Soros.

    And then he’s putting up a load of money towards getting non-Europeans into Europe bearing in mind that it was shown that Soros has ‘funded’ most members of the EU Assembly

    https://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/20/george-soros-to-invest-500-million-in-help-for-refugees-through-his-open-society-foundations.html

    The Open Society Foundations (OSF), a non-profit organization owned by Soros, will be in charge of the funds, the statement said. Any profits from the investments would go to the OSF’s migrant and refugee-related programs, which include community centers in Greece and initiatives to provide Syrian refugees with legal advice.

    ‘Soros’ is an octogenarian who should have retired to enjoy the proceeds of his thieving, but instead he is busily fronting a cabal of oligarchs who are intent on destroying the ethnic basis of European countries and to make all other European-founded nations white-minority like South Africa

  20. Read (((Nick Cohen)))

    Allan

    Do you ever reflect on your Jew-hatred and where you got it from? Were you anti-semitic at the age of 18?

  21. Allan –

    No patriot or Brexiteer mentioned that Soros is Jewish. The likes of Cohen, on the other hand, have been mentioning nothing but his Jewishness.

    Bur it’s all they have. If they didn’t drag out his Jewishness they’d have to discuss his meddling in our affairs.

  22. In Switzerland, the Great Replacement is not going unnoticed:

    https://diversitymachtfrei.wordpress.com/2018/02/10/switzerland-white-genocide-ok-showing-white-genocide-not-ok/

    There’s a big fuss in the Swiss MSM just now about a photo of a Zurich school class that was being circulated on social media by members of the “far right” PNOS party (Partei der Eidgenossen) [Eidgenossen literally means oathbound but is also used to refer to the Swiss people in general].

    All these crazed right-wing extremists did was comment on the nature of the demographic change clearly underway in Switzerland, variously known as the Great Replacement or White Genocide. But Swiss establishment figures have claimed this was a terrible intrusion into the privacy of the children. They are considering legal action against PNOS. Child welfare experts are now calling for schools not to publish classroom photographs on the internet so that white folks seeking to resist their own extinction – AKA the “Alt Right” – will not be able to observe how White Genocide is progressing.

    Below you see the original photograph that provoked the discussion together with the blurred-up version of it being used to illustrate the stories in the Swiss MSM. As you can see there is only one child with what we might call a “traditionally Swiss” appearance and name.

  23. No patriot or Brexiteer mentioned that Soros is Jewish

    Oh I don’t know Pete, I think there have been a few around these parts who may have quietly mentioned it on the very odd occasion.

  24. Peter – did you read anything that I wrote or to which I linked? Nobody who wrote in the DT or any other newspaper mentioned that Soros is jewish. The jews in (((The Guardian))) who kvetched about even mentioning (((Soros))) did all that. The bottom line is that the ‘conspiracy theories’ are demonstrably true as verified from source materials linked at 9.34pm. If these are factually incorrect, then please show where. As stated above

    Goyim Noticing leads to Goyim Knowing

  25. his meddling in our affairs.

    But you have no problem with billionaire foreigners like US citizen Murdoch or French-domiciled tax dodger “Lord” Rothermere (Daily Mail) “meddling in our affairs”?

    Nah, thought not.

  26. Ah yes Allan, remember how you tried some similar bullshit ‘evidence’ with a very very selective photograph of Balbriggan Community College?

  27. No Paul.

    With regard to the revelation that Soros has been funding an anti-Brexit movement, the only people to mention that he’s a Jew are anti-Brexiteers. Soros’ actions speak for themselves, even though you decline to listen. There’s no need to bring in anything else.

    Cohen is being a scoundrel.

  28. Peter –

    Lord Rothermere is British, and France is anything but a tax haven.

    Yes, I actually do have a problem with Murdoch meddling in our affairs. Still, at least he’s not a commie or some uppity immigrant like Yasmin Alibhai-Brown, eh?

  29. But the Boomers who fucked each other in Woodstock’s mud and drugged themselves senseless are now paying for their degeneracy and their disastrous legacy to white America: they are leaving their paradise in California because……”it’s just not the same”

    http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2018/02/08/san-francisco-bay-area-mass-exodus-residents/

    SAN JOSE (KPIX 5) – The number of people packing up and moving out of the Bay Area just hit its highest level in more than a decade.

    Carole Dabak spent 40 years living in San Jose and now she’s part of the mass exodus that is showing no signs of slowing down.

    The retired engineer’s packing up and calling it quits about to move to the state of Tennessee.

    “I loved it here when I first got here. I really loved it here. But it’s just not the same,” Dabak said.

    Of course people come and go from the Bay Area all the time, but for the first time in a long time, more people are leaving the Bay Area than are coming in. And the number one place in the country for out-migration is now, right here.

    Wouldn’t stuff like spics murdering the white residents have something to do with it? Calexit is needed urgently and the whites in California should be walled-in to keep their lunacy away from the sane-49. Let them stew in their diversity-juice.

  30. Nobody who wrote in the DT or any other newspaper mentioned that Soros is jewish.

    Really? The Jewish Chronicle has a different take:

    “Theresa May’s former chief of staff has been accused of dredging up an antisemitic conspiracy theory after contributing to an article which claims Jewish financier George Soros supports a “secret plot” to thwart Brexit.

    Nick Timothy, who was dismissed by the Prime Minister after the 2017 general election, co-authored a front-page report in the Daily Telegraph on Thursday detailing how the billionaire Hungarian investor has backed Best for Britain, an anti-Brexit campaign. The article has claimed the group, which has prepared to launch a nationwide advertising campaign this month, will aim to force a second referendum on Brexit.

    The use of the phrase “secret plot” to describe the activities funded by Mr Soros has sparked claims of antisemitism, with critics accusing the authors of using a traditional trope of shadowy Jewish political influence.”

    https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/brexit-nick-timothy-aide-theresa-may-accused-antisemitic-slur-1.458334

  31. Lord Rothermere is British, and France is anything but a tax haven.

    Patriot Rothermere clings to French domicile to avoid UK inheritance tax on his billions, as did his so-patriotic jew-hating ancestors.

  32. With regard to the revelation that Soros has been funding an anti-Brexit movement, the only people to mention that he’s a Jew are anti-Brexiteers

    I’m pretty sure that there’s been a few ‘patriots’ and ‘nationalists’ around these parts who have whispered it periodically Pete.

  33. Paul –

    Allow me to explain again. Cohen is talking about Soros and the recent revelation that he’s been trying to stymie the will of the British people. Now, with regard to that revelation, the only people to mention that he’s a Jew are anti-Brexiteers.

    The truth is that his corruption has been proven. It cannot be countered. So Remainers make up an alternative news universe.

  34. Paul McMahon, on February 10th, 2018 at 9:51 PM Said:

    Ah yes Allan, remember how you tried some similar bullshit ‘evidence’ with a very very selective photograph of Balbriggan Community College?

    Ah – Balbriggan. How are things going there?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SIkfeIN2vI&feature=youtu.be

    musashidanmcgrath
    8 hours ago (edited)
    I’m from Dublin. Living in Australia the last few years and the EXACT same thing is happening here. There is an African gang epidemic in Melbourne. 100 strong gangs rampaging through the city. They are animals.

    I’m from Blanch and watched as this slowly and very obviously built up. Whole estates ghettoised. Same shit when I was growing up in Blanch. IRA used to patrol estates at night. Break up gangs. Break knees. Vigilantism is the only way. Garda/govt are cucked. Political correctness has fucked Europe.

  35. No patriot or Brexiteer mentioned that Soros is Jewish.

    You may wish to withdraw your opening remark at 9.36 then Pete as the Thompson Twins shout it from the rooftops every opportunity they get.

    If they didn’t drag out his Jewishness they’d have to discuss his meddling in our affairs

    It’s precisely this reason that the lunatic fringe extreme right on ATW and other places love to portray him as Ernst Blofeld. Cohen patently speaks the truth with regard to that revelation

  36. But Allan, remember how you tried some similar bullshit ‘evidence’ with a very very selective photograph of Balbriggan Community College?

    Do you remember when you tried that bollocks or not?

  37. A house divided against itself cannot stand”, this is the position of the tory party .. you see the echoes of that in Farage’s party with a constant stream of new leader, you see that in Trumps change of staff.

    An very astute comparative observation Jude.

  38. An very astute comparative observation Jude.

    Indeed Paul. My question about Brexit is why the Brits just don’t get on with the damned thing.

    The same thing for my own country. Build the damned wall, for Christ’s sake. Get on with it!

  39. The UK can’t just do it. They are in the EU today, and the only smart way to do it, is in the context of an agreement that both the UK and EU can live with.

    To pull out without such a deal would mean huge uncertainty for both sides, It would be bad for everybody’s economic and other future.

  40. Hi Charles, hope all’s good.

    Yes, as Phantom says, a 100% direct and immediate pull out and the financial tsunamis it would cause would leave global tremors for a long, long time.

    My own opinion is that the Brexiteers didn’t think for a minute that the Brits would vote to leave and were caught on the hop with no contingency plans. That’s the reason we’re seeing this headless chicken confusion.

  41. I visited Floyd Bennett Field in Brooklyn today

    It was a Naval air station in the early days of aviation, and played a part in World War II operations

    It was a commercial airport in the 1930s, before it was replaced by LaGuardia airport.

    Today, it is a part of the gateway national Park, which includes various components and queens, Brooklyn, Staten Island, and New Jersey

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floyd_Bennett_Field

  42. Hi Paul, all is well.

    Speaking of Brexit, probably nothing in history has been negotiated of this size and magnitude without going to war over it first. Long gone are the days when the Pope could draw a line down the middle of South America for the sake of Spain and Portugal.

  43. Paul McMahon, on February 10th, 2018 at 10:31 PM Said:

    But Allan, remember how you tried some similar bullshit ‘evidence’ with a very very selective photograph of Balbriggan Community College?

    Do you remember when you tried that bollocks or not?

    Here is a Dublin radio discussion about what to do about the violence from the African Selectas

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=indoi3TbqyE

    Chad Peak
    2 weeks ago
    Import Africans ..become like Africa ..who could have imagined it .

    Because the Gardai won’t deal with the Selectas, so somebody has to do it:

    https://www.thesun.ie/news/2052192/vigilante-group-hells-angels-attacks-ringleaders-of-thug-teenage-gang-whove-been-terrifying-west-dublin-residents/

    A VIGILANTE group ­has attacked a teenage gang’s ringleaders in a bid to put a stop to their reign of terror.

    The crowd — who named themselves after the famous US biker gang Hell’s Angels — have fought back after the young thugs left people in parts of west Dublin ­fearing for their lives.

    We revealed yesterday that the gang, with African origins, are being “left to run amok” by gardai because they don’t have the resources to deal with them.

    This is a very ‘selective’ image:

    https://scontent.fdub4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/23658915_1559981547419063_4582980036923083861_n.jpg?oh=bb0032fe5b7f2a2a76256188324cbd5a&oe=5A96EBD2

    The reality is that estates which house working-class Irish people are being N-bombed and the inhabitants lives are made a misery.

    Paul – would you link to that “very very very selective” image that I attached previously, the one that’s full of Selectas?

  44. Where are all the people ?

  45. //Tell us what you know –//

    I know that the pretty town in the picture is Rothenburg. It’s by no means a typical Bavarian town, being on the border to Wuerttemberg and strongly Protestant. Like most Protestant areas, it had a strong Nazi presence from the start, voted overwhelmingly for the Nazis in the early elections and drove out all Jews even before Kristallnacht.

    It’s hard to imagine from the picture today, but Rothenberg was badly damaged by a US air raid just two weeks before the war ended and looked like this.

  46. Mark – all the people moved to the village in the second post on this thread

  47. No but seriously, remember how you tried that selective bollocks? I do:

    Paul – I linked to the Balbriggan Community College to show ‘da yoofs’ who are in Balbriggan Community College. Here it is again…….

    https://www.balbriggan.info/wp-content/gallery/balbriggan-community-college-chritmas-runwalk-09-dec-16/balbriggan_community_college_christmas_fun_run_walk_09dec16_5.jpg

    It’s in colour, and I’m sure that it’s got you sold […]

    The image shows white children as a minority in Balbriggan thus corroborating the link from “an anonymous website” linked at 11.29pm with photgraphs showing whites as a minority in Balbriggan.

    Paul McMahon, on January 4th, 2018 at 2:40 PM Said:

    ‘The image shows white children as a minority in Balbriggan’

    Oh stop talking cheap propaganda shite. It shows an image of kids from Balbriggan Community College, like this:

    https://www.balbriggan.info/wp-content/gallery/First-Transition-Year-at-Balbriggan-Community-College-05-Sep-16/first_transition_year_balbriggan_community_college_05sep16.jpg

    And this:

    http://www.balbriggancommunitycollege.com/waste/Images/Sam.jpg

    See how it works?

    ‘Corroborating the link from “an anonymous website” linked at 11.29pm with photgraphs showing whites as a minority in Balbriggan’

    WHITES AS A MONORITY IN BALBRIGGAN????????

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Yon really need to stop believing what bullshit websites with neo Nazi rune thingies inside a Celtic band tell you

    How many times have you been in Ireland Allan?

  48. Paul.

    Spot-on mate, Allan does his all the time.

    Remember when he posted a photo of a large number of what were being labeled immigrants, (he never actually proved if they were), who he claimed had taken over a town centre somewhere in Ireland.
    I took the trouble of finding out where this street was, and proved, (using Google Street view and many more recent photographs,) that this particular town was not overrun with immigrants.

    When confronted with facts or contradictory evidence, Allan just moves the goalposts and obfuscates the conversation.

  49. “A house divided against itself cannot stand”, this is the position of the Tory party

    That’ll be that bloody UK Parliamentary Sovereignty that the Brexiteers wanted again then Jude.

    Pro-European Conservative MPs could join forces with Labour to block the kind of Brexit Theresa May wants, a Tory rebel has warned the PM.

    Anna Soubry claimed there would be a Commons majority against leaving the single market and customs union

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-43023051

  50. Noel

    The comparison of Rothenburg at the war’s end and the present is amazing. It seems like they have been very industrious in restoration. Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

  51. Noel.

    Wurzburg is still my number on German destination.

    I adore going there for business and pleasure.

    Apparently, we flattened great parts of Wurzburg as well.

    According to my German colleagues, those with a great sense of humour that is, the only thing that was not flattened, was the bridge of saints (below image) but was the only thing we were actually aiming for. 😏

    https://d1bvpoagx8hqbg.cloudfront.net/originals/erasmus-experience-wurzburg-germany-marina-ea7a9c434850d1ccf343847b70d5c1f3.jpg

  52. *one

  53. Labour..

    Nasty divisive bigots.

    This is yet another example of discrimination by Labour.

    “Their lazy assumption that straight white men can’t fight for equality is shocking. It is essential that political parties represent each and every person irrespective of race, sexuality or age.

    “The Labour Party should take action now to ensure that this discrimination comes to an end.”

    https://order-order.com/2018/02/11/no-straight-white-men-allowed-labour-equalities-conference/

  54. How many times have you been in Ireland Allan?

    Paul – several times. Dublin gets blacker every time I’m there and the disease has reached Longford.

    Remember when he posted a photo of a large number of what were being labeled immigrants, (he never actually proved if they were), who he claimed had taken over a town centre somewhere in Ireland.
    I took the trouble of finding out where this street was, and proved, (using Google Street view and many more recent photographs,) that this particular town was not overrun with immigrants.

    Dave – if you had done so, you would have remembered the particular town. Was it Malmo or Oslo, both in Sweden?

    Here’s how the demography-denial game is played. I put up evidence of the effects of importing Africa and Paul absolutely denies all of it including that which is happening right now in Balbriggan, Tyrrelstown, and Blanchardstown – all peripheries of Dublin. Links are placed at 10.22pm and 7.39am which show that crime is destroying the quality of life of the local working-class Irish who generally cannot afford to move to nicer, whiter places. This means nothing to Paul, and Dave, neither of whom would choose to live in enriched areas.

    The original article of interest was the evidence of demography-busting migration into Switzerland as shown by school photographs:

    https://diversitymachtfrei.wordpress.com/2018/02/10/switzerland-white-genocide-ok-showing-white-genocide-not-ok/

    There’s a big fuss in the Swiss MSM just now about a photo of a Zurich school class that was being circulated on social media by members of the “far right” PNOS party (Partei der Eidgenossen) [Eidgenossen literally means oathbound but is also used to refer to the Swiss people in general].

    All these crazed right-wing extremists did was comment on the nature of the demographic change clearly underway in Switzerland, variously known as the Great Replacement or White Genocide. But Swiss establishment figures have claimed this was a terrible intrusion into the privacy of the children. They are considering legal action against PNOS. Child welfare experts are now calling for schools not to publish classroom photographs on the internet so that white folks seeking to resist their own extinction – AKA the “Alt Right” – will not be able to observe how White Genocide is progressing.

    The only good thing about the destructive mass migration supported by Paul and Dave is that it will catch up with them, just as it has with the SF Bay Area virtue-signallers who are fleeing California and heading for still-white areas.

  55. I will comment on the Bay area migration. It may be more to high taxes than racial make-up. We have large numbers of Californians moving to Texas, specifically Dallas-fort Worth and Austin. Toyota just moved their national hq from California to DFW, again more about our better tax situation.

  56. Charles – racial make-up is why taxes will be going up. Anyway, do you really believe that the stupid virtue-signalling Boomers fleeing the reality of the demographic disaster of California that they brought about would admit to their ‘racism’? This is as close as it would get………

    http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2018/02/08/san-francisco-bay-area-mass-exodus-residents/

    SAN JOSE (KPIX 5) – The number of people packing up and moving out of the Bay Area just hit its highest level in more than a decade.

    Carole Dabak spent 40 years living in San Jose and now she’s part of the mass exodus that is showing no signs of slowing down.

    The retired engineer’s packing up and calling it quits about to move to the state of Tennessee.

    “I loved it here when I first got here. I really loved it here. But it’s just not the same,” Dabak said.

    “it’s just not the same”

  57. Charles – racial make-up is why taxes will be going up

    Allan, that sentence struck a chord. El Paso is a poor town, being made poorer by students who come here for a free education, free medical care, but pay no taxes.

  58. *come from Mexico

  59. A major reason why people are leaving places like San Francisco and San Diego are that real estateAnd renting apartments is now very expensive there

    In the case of San Francisco, a major reason for the high cost of real estate is the booming high-tech industry there and in nearby Silicon Valley

    This is a problem created by a highly successful economy , Not by so-called leftism or whatever

  60. Allan

    Dave – if you had done so, you would have remembered the particular town. Was it Malmo or Oslo, both in Sweden?

    Do you have reading difficulty Allan. I said it was in Ireland.

  61. Sorry Dave – I was busy. Which town was it?

  62. This is a problem created by a highly successful economy , Not by so-called leftism or whatever

    Ah – so whites in the Bay Area are fleeing the problems of success?

  63. I can’t remember Allan, it was a discussion we had a while ago, after you, (I think), posted a photo of a number of dark skinned gentleman outside some shops with a title along the lines of ‘this is Ireland today’. I tracked down the actual town from the shops in the photo.

    Perhaps you could answer a question I’ve asked you a couple of times now.
    Do you believe that mankind originated in Africa and were originally dark skinned?

  64. Ah – so whites in the Bay Area are fleeing the problems of success?

    That sort of answer begs credulity.

  65. Several times? and you think that qualifies you to speak about social situations there?

    You have an agenda Allan and nothing will deter you from it. You have no interest in debate, nuance, cause, fact or truth. That’s why you link to a selective photo and try to portray it as white kids being a minority in an Irish school, it’s why you love to portray juvenile anti social behaviour, common in every Irish city, slyly as some kind of code word in your infamous self proclaimed ‘evidence’ and ‘source material’ rather than speak about the vicious Dublin gangland war that has claimed fifteen lives in less than two years.

    It’s that agenda which also makes you invent stories such as the numpty that clocked Richard Spencer had a spanner up his sleeve, Trump didn’t know that his co host on a tv programmes was married when he tried to fuck her as well as your multiple more colourful claims.

    This obsessive unyielding agenda has made you a kook, a fantasist, a liar, a paranoid, a purveyor of paranoia and a spinner of disinformation. The Sherlock Holmes quote one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts was made for you.

  66. This means nothing to Paul, and Dave, neither of whom would choose to live in enriched areas.

    How do you know where Dave or I live? One things for sure, I don’t live in a middle class oil rich leafy multiculti third world shithole like Mannofield.

  67. I can’t remember Allan, it was a discussion we had a while ago, after you, (I think), posted a photo of a number of dark skinned gentleman outside some shops with a title along the lines of ‘this is Ireland today’. I tracked down the actual town from the shops in the photo.

    Oh Jesus Dave, I wanted to check up on that and typed ‘group of black youths standing outside shop’ into Google and got this:

    https://www.google.es/search?q=Group+of+black+youths+standing+outside+shop&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwirjte_857ZAhUBHRQKHaNRDRYQ_AUICigB&biw=1366&bih=662

    Google pushing their nefarious (((agenda))) again no doubt.

  68. Paul

    Google pushing their nefarious (((agenda))) again no doubt.

    It’s true Paul. It just backs up what Allan, Pete Moore and sadly, David Vance have said. LOL.
    Sadly, facts and evidence mean nothing to those with an agenda.

    Brilliant, BTW Paul.

  69. I can’t answer for the Bay Area but at one time retiring people were selling their houses in Toronto and buying nearly identical houses in small town Manitoba for 1/10th of the price

  70. Allan 959

    If you are retiring, And will be living on a fixed income, you may have a very hard time paying market rents for San Francisco for New York real estate

    But you can live very well on the same income in say South Carolina, Orlando, Grand Junction or El Paso, where real estate and rents are way less

    —-
    Same deal for working people. The same income goes way further outside SF or NYC. primarily due to real estate and rentals. These places attract high income people, But others leave for Economic or lifestyle reasons

  71. htt ps://www.sfgate.com/expensive-san-francisco/article/San-Jose-living-85K-salary-is-it-possible-12563140.php?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark

  72. It woz the Russians wot dunnit…

    Cabinet Minister Andrea Leadsom becomes the latest leading Brexiteer to receive sinister death threat telling her ‘we are coming for you’ and signed by ‘the real 48 per cent’
    Andrea Leadsom received threatening letter saying ‘we are coming for you’
    The note is near identical to death threats received by prominent Leave donors
    Last week Zac Goldsmith revealed 80 year-old Brexiteer received death threat

    It read: ‘If you attempt to take away part of someone’s identity, there are consequence.

    ‘We have watched as you have led u to the edge of the abyss. We will watch no longer.

    ‘You have taken lives on our side. No we will take lives on yours. We are coming for you.

    We have watched have you have stoked the fires of Brexit and led us to this moment

    ‘You can no longer be tolerated. We are coming for you. We are going to kill you.’

    The note said: ‘More than 45 people in Richmond are unhappy about Brexit.’ One person, who signed their name as Tamara, wrote: ‘F*** you’, while another said: ‘You won’t last long and neither will Brexs***’.

    Another asked: ‘Can we have Sarah Olney back please, you’re a total disgrace.’

    While one sick member of the group wrote: ‘Have a cancerous New Year.’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5381215/Andrea-Leadsom-gets-death-threat-real-48-cent.html

  73. Caught the culprit.. maybe?.

    It’s Der Führer Verhofstadt.. 😏

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/428d8a6c18d66f61bea3dc993e40246a347d755899b6c341cbac6102f1e806e7.jpg

  74. Jude.

    You think death threats are funny?.

    I tried to tell you before Jude.

    Oh, I have plenty to cry about thanks.

  75. While one sick member of the group wrote: ‘Have a cancerous New Year.’

    One can assume then Jude by your last post, you also find someone wishing for a person to get cancer is also hilarious?.

    I can pretty much guess unfortunately, there is not one person on ATW who has not lost a loved one, or knows someone who has died of that terrible disease cancer.

    Jude.

    You need help.

  76. My mother died of lung cancer on three years ago on the 19th of this month and I for one don’t think that we can assume that from Jude’s post at all.

  77. Perhaps you could answer a question I’ve asked you a couple of times now.
    Do you believe that mankind originated in Africa and were originally dark skinned?

    Dave – the answers are ‘no’ and ‘no’. The out-of-Africa THEORY is no more credible than the Big Bang THEORY.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/evolution-theory-out-of-africa-dali-skull-china-homo-erectus-sapiens-latest-a8064306.html

    You have an agenda Allan and nothing will deter you from it.

    Paul – that’s correct, and the 14 words below spell it out:

    We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White Children

    You are opposed to this agenda

  78. George Soros, and Juncker the drunk definitely are.

    Juncker: No Matter How Bad Migrant Crisis, Terrorism Gets, We’ll Never Give Up On Open Borders

    Jean-Claude Juncker has vowed that no matter how bad terrorism or the migrant crisis gets, the European Union (EU) will never give up on open borders. The European Commission president said terrorism could be countered with better intelligence-sharing between member states.

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/07/25/juncker-vows-eu-open-borders-always/

    Maybe we could all have a security detail each then.

  79. Paul – that’s correct, and the 14 words below spell it out

    Thank you for vindicating my 10.08 above. Not much more needs to be said on the subject.

    I am opposed to your bolloxology.

  80. Jesus, these people are pyscopaths.

    The President of the European Commission is not just committed to open borders within Europe. Under his presidency, the European Commission lists migration as one of its priorities. As well as offering residency to the world’s “refugees”, the Commission seeks to make it much easier and more desirable for Africans and their families to move to EU countries.

    Speaking after Islamic terror attacks left 130 dead in Paris last November, Mr. Juncker rejected calls to rethink the EU’s open doors policy on migration from Africa and the Middle East. Dismissing suggestions that open borders led to the attacks, Mr. Juncker said he believed “exactly the opposite” – that the attacks should be met with a stronger display of liberal values including open borders.

  81. Yet more wonderful positive news.

    Not so good news for liberals.

    special quintuple whammy of #DespiteBrexit good news to brighten up a chilly Monday. Over the weekend US bank Citigroup announced a massive investment in London, its first since the referendum result. They plan to establish an innovation centre with 60 high quality jobs and room for expansion. James Cowles, the bank’s EMEA CEO, told the FT:

    “Regardless of Brexit, the UK remains one of the world’s largest pools of diverse talent when it comes to hiring advanced technologists with a strong business background.”

    Meanwhile, Bob Dudley of global energy powerhouse BP says Brexit has “not diminished” Britain’s standing on the world stage and is bullish on trade deals. He told The Times:

    “There are a lot of countries around the world that would like trade deals with Britain bilaterally down the road, I hear that a lot. I don’t think British influence is diminished. BP works all over the world and I see the importance of Britain in what we do and how they view BP.”

    In manufacturing, British engine makers are experiencing an unprecedented boom and production is at an all-time high. According to the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders:

    British engine manufacturing rose 6.9% to all-time high of 2.7 million units in 2017;
    Home demand is up 9.7%, while global demand rose to almost 1.5 million units;
    UK engine manufacturing is now worth £8.5 billion, supporting 8,000 British jobs. Brexit an engine for British growth…

    Remember when Project Fear said Brexit would threaten Britain’s reputation as an outward-looking, welcoming nation? Remainers suggested international visitors to the UK, students, for instance, would be put-off. In fact, a record number of foreign students now want to study at British universities. According to UCAS figures:

    International student applications are up 11% to 58,450;
    Applications from China rose by 20%;
    Applications from India rose by 36%;
    Applications from Mexico surged by 52%.
    And the value of UK food and drink exports has soared to record levels, up 10% to reach £22 billion in 2017 – more than double what they were worth ten years ago. British food and drink producers now sell to 217 countries. Sales of milk and cream increased by 61%, salmon by 23% and pork by 14%. And, as Liz Truss famously predicted, we’ve sold cheese to the French (£85 million), chocolate to the Belgians (£21 million) and tea to the Chinese (£2 million). Five new pieces of good news, #DespiteBrexit…

    https://order-order.com/2018/02/12/quintuple-despitebrexit-special/

    What for it…wait for it.. 😁

  82. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b95d615a281bdb2331af0d7a9cfd66c82380c41727635f23c72e84cb98fbde18.jpg

  83. Juncker: No Matter How Bad Migrant Crisis, Terrorism Gets, We’ll Never Give Up On Open Borders

    – July 2016

    🤣🤣🤣

    Meanwhile, Britain’s auto industry shows signs of growth in wake of Brexit:

    https://www.suffolkgazette.com/business/british-car-brexit/

  84. Phantom, on February 12th, 2018 at 3:37 AM Said:

    Allan 959

    If you are retiring, And will be living on a fixed income, you may have a very hard time paying market rents for San Francisco for New York real estate

    Phantom – California is rather large at 160,000 sq-miles, certainly larger than the UK at 92,000 sq-miles (although only 1 square-mile actually matters). So why would somebody who wishes to reduce out-goings from a fixed-income simply not move to a cheaper locality in California and save the expenditure of moving to a (whiter??) state?

    It’s looking as though the righteous Boomers have had enough of the consequences of their own BS and are fleeing the very paradise that they destroyed. Hail Calexit!!

  85. I see cheddar man’s wife has now been discovered…

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/260de18e0682c19033a69dba99e92dd29a05aaa219b1733a7e2f9e87ed487a07.jpg

  86. You got one thing right harri you can’t assume anything . Don’t put words in my mouth everyone can see the smears .. behave pal

  87. Jude.

    Stop whining you nasty old racist bigot.

  88. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fb93c86120c9cc1aff44852c236fa76618828ffe8522724cbd6b9cc9fc8c60f0.jpg

    😁

  89. Harri – the ‘alts’ own the Cheeser 🙂

    https://twitter.com/Politikking/status/962795852124360704/photo/1

    Run down this thread to the image with PH and MM – “she was a kang ‘n’ sheeeiiitt” 🙂

  90. Lol!

    Harry’s Dad, James won’t be impressed.

    😁

  91. Much apoplexy I imagine.

    A true Anglophile:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-5377025/GEORGE-SOROS-love-Britain-hate-Brexit.html

  92. The lady had great foresight.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d7c347320ad7dd7d91ce0309f75e6a4a7c4c33534a4445327012ea2fe1757ff9.jpg

  93. Bow and curtsey before the Duchess of Sussex Brit serfs 🙂

  94. Barack Obama’s $400,000 speaking fees reveal what few want to admit {theguardian may2017}

    The reason many of us have been critical of Barack Obama’s outrageous $400,000 speaking fee is that it robs us of a fantasy: that sooner or later, the first black president was going to use his considerable powers, in or out of office, to help the economic ravages of the poor, who are disproportionately black.

    That Obama’s project was or ever would be racial and economic justice was always a dream – and the sooner we let go of this and recognize Obama for who he is and what he does, the better we’ll all be.

    Some people who disagree with me believe I am racist … I fantasized that he’d join us on the front lines of marches, battle for the salvation of Obamacare in ingenious ways, and maybe turn up at a Black Lives Matter event. But this was all a fantasy. …”

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/may/01/barack-obama-speaking-fees-economic-racial-justice

  95. Didn’t George Soros (who loves Britain) scupper the attempt by Nigel Lawson to sneak into the forthcoming Euro-zone by ‘shadowing’ the D-Mark? That’s what kept the UK out of the Euro and much of the thanks goes to George Soros who, as a jew, just couldn’t resist the chance to make a load of money doing something to ruin that which he claims to support.

  96. George Soros saved us from the euro!!

    Wow, thanks George. 😁

  97. While former Chancellor Lord Lamont might criticise my involvement as a foreigner, it might help him to know I also have long had businesses in Britain – in much the same way as has Rupert Murdoch, an American citizen and well-known Brexiteer.

    🙂

  98. It’s quite remarkable how commies suddenly love mega-billionaire bankers and speculators and wish to see them succeed in blocking a democratic plebiscite.

    It’s as if they have no principles, or something.

  99. Much apoplexy I imagine

    🙂

  100. I think Harri think’s he’s on twitter < 240 characters
    anyone told him this is a place to develop arguments/ challenge viewpoints
    else it just a cut/paste , emoji/ photo share whatsapp, you know for adolescents ..

  101. Allan@Aberdeen

    Dave – the answers are ‘no’ and ‘no’. The out-of-Africa THEORY is no more credible than the Big Bang THEORY.

    Are you religious then Allan? Do you believe in a biblical creation?

  102. I don’t know if Allan believes in God, but he certainly believes God is WHITE 😜

  103. Dave – as before, ‘no’ and ‘no’ but let me see if you can do a bit of thinking. You clearly adhere to the Big Bang THEORY even though it is just a theory and cosmologists who don’t go along with it lose their funding and research places especially when their findings differ from the ‘theory’

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Seeing-Red-Redshifts-Cosmology-Academic/dp/0968368905

    The Creator of The Big Bang was a Catholic priest Georges Lemaitre. His theory is that there was nothing – BANG – and then there was everything. Does that not look suspiciously like some kind of Biblical creation?

  104. Allan@Aberdeen,

    Dave – as before, ‘no’ and ‘no’ but let me see if you can do a bit of thinking. You clearly adhere to the Big Bang THEORY even though it is just a theory

    I do plenty of thinking Allan, a lot more than you it appears. First off you’re demonstrating a terrible understanding of science, by making the common mistake of confusing a scientific theory with the common usage of the word Theory. A scientific theory is the single highest level of scientific achievement and is a testable and predictable model. It’s not a guess, or an assumption, like the common vernacular usage of the word Theory.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory

    and cosmologists who don’t go along with it lose their funding and research places especially when their findings differ from the ‘theory’

    Cosmologists and others in different scientific Fields do not lose their funding or anything else just because they disagree with mainstream science. This is more of your conspiracy theory nonsense Allan.

    The Creator of The Big Bang was a Catholic priest Georges Lemaitre. His theory is that there was nothing – BANG – and then there was everything. Does that not look suspiciously like some kind of Biblical creation?

    Georges Lemaitre, was not the creator of the big bang Allan. He was one of the first to propose that the universe was expanding. He proposed the primordial atom or cosmic egg as a starting point. This was later confirmed by Edwin Hubble. Many other scientists in many other scientific Fields, backed up the Big Bang Theory with multiple discoveries and predictions, such as Robert Wilson and Arno Penzias who discovered the predicted cosmic microwave background radiation. The Echo of the Big Bang.

    Science, despite the claims of creationists, and it appears yourself, has never claimed that the universe came from nothing. Some scientists might claim this, but science itself does not make this claim. First of all you’d have to define what nothing is, and seeing as the big bang is also responsible for time, in this makes her before the Big Bang impossible to define.

    To answer your last question no this does not look like biblical creation to me Allan. It certainly doesn’t sound like the biblical creation in any of the holy books that I’ve read.

    You don’t seem to have a problem asking others questions here on ATW Allan, which another was forthcoming when it comes to answering questions directed at Yourself.
    I’ve asked you several times in the past and again now, do you want to answer my questions? Are you religious? Are you a creationist?

  105. I’ve asked you several times in the past and again now, do you want to answer my questions? Are you religious? Are you a creationist?

    And as has been answered several times in the past, and once again, ‘no’ and ‘no’ though I rule out nothing.

    Science, despite the claims of creationists, and it appears yourself, has never claimed that the universe came from nothing.

    It certainly is the case that conventional cosmologists do claim that the Universe emerged from nothing, the nothing being termed a ‘singularity’. If the Big Bang did not emerge from a singularity, then what is the latest fashionable theory to emerge from the well-funded fantasists of cosmology? That entire theory is the equivalent of “and then there was light”

    And as I must once again state, those who provide evidence that the Big Bang theory is incorrect lose their funding and use of major equipment, as described by Eric Lerner:

    http://www.bigbangneverhappened.org/

    Too many Hypothetical Entities–Dark Matter and Energy, Inflation
    The Big Bang theory requires THREE hypothetical entities–the inflation field, non-baryonic (dark) matter and the dark energy field to overcome gross contradictions of theory and observation. Yet no evidence has ever confirmed the existence of any of these three hypothetical entities.

    But, if it doesn’t fit, just ‘invent’ something, anything, like String Theory

  106. Allan, Maybe you should give Christianity a try. Christ is always there to forgive past faults. Repent!

  107. Allan

    Listen to the Richard Feynman lectures; they’re very educational

  108. http://www.cornell.edu/video/richard-feynman-messenger-lecture-1-law-of-gravitation

  109. When it comes to how the Universe was created cosmologists don’t like to admit the truth which is they don’t know. It is beyond our capacities to truly know such things, because whatever theory becomes the accepted answer begs the next question, how was the phenomena that kickstarted the Universe created ?

    And so it goes on..

  110. Listen to the Richard Feynman lectures; they’re very educational

    But what about difficult questions like ‘what are magnets’?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO0r930Sn_8

  111. This looks fairly ominous:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/feb/13/bosnian-serb-police-arms-purchase-stokes-eu-fears

  112. This looks fairly ominous:

    This is absolutely ominous:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5371263/Somalian-raped-girl-threatened-kill-jailed.html

    A Somalian man has been jailed after he held a sharp piece of wood against a teenage girl’s throat and raping her, saying that the victim could not be a virgin ‘because you are white’.

    Ahmed Abdoule, 33, told his victim ‘my country would love you’ following the brutal attack which has seen him jailed for 11 years.

    The victim, who was known to Abdoule prior to the attack, ‘cried and pleaded’ with the savage rapist to let her go during the ordeal, Hull Crown Court heard.

  113. Gees and white guys rape people too

    ht tps://hiptoro.com/three-pedophiles-held-teen-captive-5-days-forced-sex-20-men/

  114. People can be animals no matter their race, color or creed.

  115. EP –

    I’m not sure that white men are brought up to think that whole races of women are sluts and good only to be raped, because of their colour.

    Many of these primitives think exactly that way about white women.

  116. Allan, little Allan used it a few days ago, too late.

    Stop being a bore and trying to derail yet another thread, you bore.

  117. Stop being a bore and trying to derail yet another thread, you bore.

    HAHAHA – one sees how threads meander all the time yet, as soon as the consequences of ‘enrichment’ are shown following a post on Bosnian-Serbs (not derailing the thread – it’s one of Paul’s posts), it’s ‘derailing the thread boo-hoo’ where a British girl having been raped by a Somali is “boring”.

    Bradford, Rotherham, Oxford…….deadly boring etc.

  118. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

  119. Mass rapes of British girls – ZZZZZZZZZZZ

    Black guy misses Paris subway train – horrific racist incident

    That’s how life looks to those who really do want us gone. Some day, it will catch up on them.

  120. ZZZZZZZZZZZ

  121. Colm,

    When it comes to how the Universe was created cosmologists don’t like to admit the truth which is they don’t know.

    Utter bollocks. Science and scientists are more than happy to admit that there’s a lot they don’t understand. Professor Brian Cox recently admitted that the origins of the universe are not well understood.

    It is beyond our capacities to truly know such things, because whatever theory becomes the accepted answer begs the next question,

    We understand plenty how is understanding the universe beyond our capabilities. Can you see into the future Colm. If not how can you make this ridiculous claim.

    how was the phenomena that kickstarted the Universe created ?

    Well here’s one of many theories, how about the how about the collapse of the previous universe from heat death? Or how about another Theory, what about multiverses and string theory. Just because you can’t understand it doesn’t mean it’s not possible.

  122. Or how about another Theory, what about multiverses and string theory. Just because you can’t understand it doesn’t mean it’s not possible.

    It’s because it’s garbage:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Not-Even-Wrong-Continuing-Challenge/dp/0224076051

  123. Allan@Aberdeen,

    It’s because it’s garbage:

    I’ll be sure to let all these incredibly smart scientists and professors know that you’ve sussed out that it’s garbage AlLan.

  124. Dave

    The string theory works in your case. You are prepared to believe any old string of incredulous theoretic garbage cosmologists serve up 🙄

  125. Bibi going down?

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-43051249

  126. Colm,

    The string theory works in your case. You are prepared to believe any old string of incredulous theoretic garbage cosmologists serve up 🙄

    Do you actually understand string theory Colm. Because it’s not ridiculous. That’s your shows ignorance on your part. And I never said I believed it I was just presenting it as one of many possibilities for the origins of the universe.
    It’s pretty disingenuous of you to try and strawman me in that way.
    There a Premier of theories that have been ridiculed throughout the history of Science and have gone on to be proven correct. But I guess the armchair scientists will always believe what they want to believe.

  127. Dave – the book is by Peter Woit:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Woit

    Woit graduated in 1979 from Harvard University with bachelor’s and master’s degrees in physics. He obtained his PhD in particle physics from Princeton University in 1985, followed by postdoctoral work in theoretical physics at State University of New York at Stony Brook and mathematics at the Mathematical Sciences Research Institute (MSRI) in Berkeley. He spent four years as an assistant professor at Columbia. He now holds a permanent position in the mathematics department, as Senior Lecturer and as Departmental Computer Administrator

    He is critical of string theory on the grounds that it lacks testable predictions and is promoted with public money despite its failures so far

    His moderated weblog on string theory and other topics is titled “Not Even Wrong”, a derogatory term for scientifically useless arguments

    These “incredibly smart scientists” don’t even have one single experiment to test their theories – but they get money 🙂

  128. Oh lighten up Dave, it was a joke.

  129. I’m perfectly ‘lightend up’ Colm. But thanks for your concern.

  130. Allan

    These “incredibly smart scientists” don’t even have one single experiment to test their theories – but they get money 🙂

    Wow. We can add deciding which scientists, and scientific research are eligible for funding to your huge list of Talents Allan.
    If only everyone in the world could be a smart and knowledgeable as you.

  131. Allan is smarter than Einstein and all them fellas. Just ask him.

  132. Dave – don’t get snarky. Can you show one experiment that supports ‘string theory’?

    How is hot fusion doing these days?

  133. Phantom,

    Allan is smarter than Einstein and all them fellas. Just ask him.

    Indeed he is Phantom. I just don’t know where he finds the time for scientific excellence. What was all the conspiracy theories to research, and showing how the Jews control the planet. And lets not even venture into his expertise in world politics.

  134. Allan@Aberdeen,

    Dave – don’t get snarky. Can you show one experiment that supports ‘string theory’?

    By supports do you mean proves? Once again Allan you completely miss understand what I’m saying and the point I’m making. I never said that string theory has been proven. I just presented it as one of many theories. And as I’m sure you know being an expert, there are many different models of string theory. A scientist acceptance or denial of string theory does not prove whether it is accurate or not.

    How is hot fusion doing these days?u

    Better than cold fusion when it comes to toasting marshmallows.

    I’ll be honest Allan, as with many conversations I’ve had with you I’m not really sure what point you’re trying to make.

  135. Dave – can you show one experiment that supports ‘string theory’?

    How is hot fusion doing these days?

  136. Oops – mistiming.

    The point on hot fusion is that it is one example of high-cost physics extracting lots of money for no result. Indeed, it’s almost certainly a failure of first-principles but more money will be thrown at it anyway.

    By supports do you mean proves?

    No – I mean ‘supports’. Can you show one experiment which supports ‘string theory’?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_power

    While fusion power is still in early stages of development, substantial sums have been and continue to be invested in research. In the EU almost €10 billion was spent on fusion research up to the end of the 1990s, and the new ITER reactor alone is budgeted at €6.6 billion total for the timeframe between 2008 and 2020.[199]

    It is estimated that up to the point of possible implementation of electricity generation by nuclear fusion, R&D will need further promotion totalling around €60–80 billion over a period of 50 years or so (of which €20–30 billion within the EU) based on a report from 2002.[200] Nuclear fusion research receives €750 million (excluding ITER funding) from the European Union, compared with €810 million for sustainable energy research,[201] putting research into fusion power well ahead of that of any single rivaling technology.

    Hmmm…. and still no functionning reactor

  137. I for one welcome our new robot overlords.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUyU3lKzoio

  138. Big physics has another scam lined up, and it’s a beauty. Quantum mechanics is, of course, still theory but it forms the basis of how to extract money from gullible organisations, be these governments or corporations. This video confirmed what I had suspected about QM.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUuaWVHhx-U

    Watch the explanation of how QM can make super-computers as of 10.00 and ask yourself whether it’s credible

    whilst at 14.16 is the killer line – “we’ll need another 10 years to have it working”. Yeah, right!!

  139. Allan

    Would you regard yourself as one of the world’s preeminent physicists?

  140. roflmao……

    one of the world’s preeminent Bigots…..

  141. https://cdn.instructables.com/FBF/8WUB/GUR6ILMT/FBF8WUBGUR6ILMT.LARGE.jpg

  142. https://psychcentral.com/blog/the-psychology-of-conspiracy-theories-why-do-people-believe-them/

  143. Excellent find Paul. The only theories which I see on this thread are a) string theory and b) quantum theory, neither of which are shown to work and each of which are intended to extract money in the same way as Hot Fusion. I’m surprised that after all the physics-scams that anybody still goes with the ‘theories’

    Questions asked are:

    Can you show one experiment that supports ‘string theory’?

    How is hot fusion doing these days?

    Dave got himself very wound-up and I dindu nuffin’ – it was Colm 🙂

  144. Well I’ve just added a bullshit psychological theory on a conspiracy theory.

    That okay with you?

  145. Allan

    No – I mean ‘supports’. Can you show one experiment which supports ‘string theory’?

    I might be being stupid here but I’m not sure what you mean by supports, Allan. If you mean is there a lot of evidence for string theory then I would have to say, probably not. But then many scientific theories didn’t have much evidence behind them, before being proved sometimes many years after being theorised.

    Hmmm…. and still no functionning reactor

    Again Allan, I’m not sure what you mean by this. Do you have some kind of knowledge scientists don’t have but says they will never get fusion reactors working?

  146. Dave – perhaps we should get a dictionary to provide some synonyms for ‘support’. From the Google dictionary, I have:

    suggest the truth of; corroborate.
    “the studies support our findings”
    synonyms: substantiate, back up, give force to, give weight to, bear out, corroborate, confirm, attest to, verify, prove, validate, authenticate, endorse, ratify, document
    “there seems to be evidence to support both of these arguments”
    antonyms: contradict, undermine

    So is there any experiment which would suggest the truth of string theory? Peter Woit says that there is not. So, for clarification to this……

    If you mean is there a lot of evidence for string theory then I would have to say, probably not.

    No – I do not mean “is there a lot”. If I had meant “is there a lot” I would have written “is there a lot”. I am asking for any experiment, even just one, which ‘supports’ (suggests the truth of) string theory.

    As for…….

    Hmmm…. and still no functionning reactor

    is this statement true or false? As far as I’m aware, there is no fusion reactor which is providing power even after the expenditure of £billions over decades. As one reads at 9.30pm…..

    While fusion power is still in early stages of development, substantial sums have been and continue to be invested in research. In the EU almost €10 billion was spent on fusion research up to the end of the 1990s, and the new ITER reactor alone is budgeted at €6.6 billion total for the timeframe between 2008 and 2020.[199]

    It is estimated that up to the point of possible implementation of electricity generation by nuclear fusion, R&D will need further promotion totalling around €60–80 billion over a period of 50 years or so (of which €20–30 billion within the EU) based on a report from 2002.[200] Nuclear fusion research receives €750 million (excluding ITER funding) from the European Union, compared with €810 million for sustainable energy research,[201] putting research into fusion power well ahead of that of any single rivaling technology.

    A monumental piss-take by big-physics

  147. I’m with Allan on this one. It seems the scientists are pulling a great big taxpayer funded scam !

  148. It’s Y2K every year for big-physics. What’s so good about it (for the physicists) is that so few people in the budget-approvals part of government know anything about where the money is going and, because it’s so long-term, the person who authorises the cheques will be elsewhere when the ten years are up and more £billions are requested. As an engineer, if I could get this one moving in my sector, I’d love it!!!

  149. Allan

    I can see I’m just wasting my time trying to have a serious discussion with you Allan.
    You’re just doing what you usually do, and quoting conspiracy theorist nonsense.
    In true conspiracy theories style if something doesn’t make sense to you then it must be wrong. Your incredulity Trumps everything.
    Just because scientists working in a particular field, have not yet achieved success does not mean that they are not going to achieve success. Nor does it mean that scientists are trying to scam money from the system. This is a ludicrous thing to say. Most of these scientists Could earn far more money, and work shorter hours in the private sector, rather than on poorly paid research and development.

    I eagerly await a peer reviewed, white paper from yourself or Colm, as to why fusion reactors are never going to work.

  150. Allan@Aberdeen,

    I asked you what you meant by support Allan, as this word covers a broad sense of definitions. I tried to clarify by saying do you mean proves to which you replied:
    I’m

    No – I mean ‘supports’. Can you show one experiment which supports ‘string theory’?

    When I tried to get more clarification from you, you sarcastically gave me the dictionary definition of support. Which actually contains the word prove. Contradicting what you said earlier.
    And you still didn’t clarify what you meant by ‘supports’.
    I really am just wasting my time with you.

  151. Dave – I can see why you are blowing smoke to get yourself out of a situation of your own creation.

    Very few people here would have difficulty with understanding the question:

    Can you show one experiment which supports ‘string theory’?

    I am then asked to clarify ‘supports’ and I made clear that “suggests the truth of” (twice – in separate posts) is another wording.

    If/when you return, could you show me the conspiracy theory nonsense that I’ve quoted. But the following takes some beating…….

    I eagerly await a peer reviewed, white paper from yourself or Colm, as to why fusion reactors are never going to work.

    The “peers” being the scientists who work in hot-fusion physics? Do you really believe that they will review a paper which would negate all their careers – really?

  152. Colm, on February 13th, 2018 at 11:33 PM Said:

    I’m with Allan on this one.

    Don’t make a habit of it. You do realise that this makes you a ‘hot-fusion denier’ 😉 ?

  153. Allan

    Dave – I can see why you are blowing smoke to get yourself out of a situation of your own creation.

    The only want blowing smoke ears you Allan. Why not to find what you mean by supports.
    There are plenty of articles describing string theory and premises to support their conclusions. Why don’t you try reading one.

    http://www.dummies.com/education/science/physics/support-for-string-theory-exploring-the-universe/

    The “peers” being the scientists who work in hot-fusion physics? Do you really believe that they will review a paper which would negate all their careers – really?

    Once again your ignorance is astounding. You can’t even be bothered to understand the basics of how the scientific method works. Papers submitted to peer review are ALWAYS reviewed. And just proving or updating a previous Theory, does not end the careers of any scientists. Plenty of scientific theories have been proven wrong or updated, And no honest scientists have ever lost their jobs over it.

  154. Colm, on February 13th, 2018 at 11:33 PM Said:
    I’m with Allan on this one. It seems the scientists are pulling a great big taxpayer funded scam !

    They are it’s called Climate Change.

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