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YET AGAIN

By Pete Moore On June 14th, 2018

Six men from Oxford (sic) who groomed and sexually abused teenage girls between 1998 and 2005 have been jailed.

As usual, the victims were drugged and subject to violence. I don’t think I’ll vote again. Since June 2016 it’s been demonstrated beyond doubt that voting is pointless. If you choose something which the power elite opposes, your vote will be overturned.

But I absolutely will vote for whoever promises to reverse the catastrophe of post-war immigration. Don’t tell me about the supposed benefits. There are none. It’s been a total catastrophe for the British people.

 

96 Responses to “YET AGAIN”

  1. calm down dear, justice is working our courts are robust they have been convicted
    you seem to have stolen defeat from the jaws of victory, the question is why?

  2. https://goo.gl/images/9KknJu

  3. But I absolutely will vote for whoever promises to reverse the catastrophe of post-war immigration. Don’t tell me about the supposed benefits. There are none. It’s been a total catastrophe for the British people.

    Liberal progressive righteous points don’t come cheap.

  4. Liberal progressive righteous points don’t come cheap.

    Yet Pete still lauds ‘the greatest gift to an undeserving world’ that brought it.

    What way does that work?

  5. Paul

    Forget blighty.

    It’s right across Europe. Apart from Hungary, Slovakia, Poland, or the Czech republic.

    By the way, according to the resident bitter & twisted hideously white illiberal retarded gammon jude.

    We really shouldn’t be talking to each other?.

    No, me neither.

  6. Bur Harri, the case in question is Blighty so let’s deal with the case in question first.

    Do you not find it incredible that Pete rightly condemns and criticises the prominance of British Asians in organised sex crime yet celebrates the thing that brought them to be there in the first place?

  7. But I absolutely will vote for whoever promises to reverse the catastrophe of post-war immigration.

    well there is a party that cals for that they’re National Action, quite a colouful bunch with interesting pasts , i’m sure they could do with a smart High IQ leader
    perhaps give them a bell petem
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Action_(UK)#Policy_and_actions

  8. yes a perfect match
    “Prosecutors told Birmingham Crown Court that the stickers, with slogans including “Britain is ours – the rest must go”,”
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/national-action-neo-nazi-racist-stickers-birmingham-university-aston-a8324221.html
    allan how do they check out to you ?

  9. Terrorism amd machetes.

    Much like the Tom Robinson ‘freedom’ march having a got at the Met plod at the weekend Jude I was actually waiting to see if and when the NatAct story would be cobered on ATW:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/national-action-terror-plot-rosie-cooper-murder-labour-mp-jack-renshaw-nazi-a8395026.html

  10. Paul

    They are only British, because someone decided to give these third world child molester Pakis a bit of paper with a stamp.

    In reality, and stoneage mindset, they are, what they are.

    Paul. I agree, the price we are now paying for past colonialism, is turning out to be a very high price indeed.

    Our children are suffering, and the gammon faced modern day liberal progressive’s really don’t give a fuck.

    😏

  11. The are British because of what Pete applauds H.

    Paul. I agree, the price we are now paying for past colonialism, is turning out to be a very high price indeed.

    At least you’re being honest about the source of the problems. Any thoughts on credible solutions?

  12. yeah its weird paul seems to have slipped under the radar and i wonder why because the sentiments expressed by colourful group of radicals mirror the language used here by quite a few “patriots”
    “Afterwards the group went to the pub where one member allegedly bragged that their activities offended “butt-hurt students, sub-humans, and traitors”.

  13. paul the solution is right there in the header
    “Six men from Oxford who groomed and sexually abused teenage girls between 1998 and 2005 have been jailed. emphasis on the word JAILED .

  14. I don’t think I’ll vote again

    Thanks for playing your part in ensuring Corbyn became leader of the opposition. Much appreciated.

  15. At least you’re being honest about the source of the problems. Any thoughts on credible solutions?

    Honestly Paul?.

    None, we are screwed, the horse has bolted.

    There is no going back.

    Things can only get worse, how many times Paul, have you read us racists comment on ATW alone, what we are reading about now, is just the tip of a very large iceberg heading our way.

    Paul.

    Please note, as promised out of respect to yourself as a father, and your eldest daughter, I have not posted out of turn reports, regarding Muslim rape fests across Europe.

    This phenomenon is here to stay, it will not stop, or even slow down or cease.

    Unless you choose to live in Hungary, Slovakia, Poland, or the Czech.

  16. Petr Tarasov, on June 14th, 2018 at 8:20 PM Said:
    I don’t think I’ll vote again

    Thanks for playing your part in ensuring Corbyn became leader of the opposition. Much appreciated.

    Petr.

    If for only a glancing moment, I truly believed Comrade Corbyn would be interested in me, as a working man, with a family, I would vote for him.

    But he obviously doesn’t give a flying fuck about me, or my family.

  17. Nobody gives a fuck about you Harri.

  18. I give a fuck about Harri.

    That’s possibly why I am alright Jack!.

    😀

  19. Nobody gives a fuck about you Harri.

    And Petr.

    I’m pretty sure, Petr gives a fuck about Harri.

    In fact,I am thinking about starting. ” Go fund me” page.

    Petr, kick it off.

    Bung in a £20 note.

    😀

    My Ride on mower is getting low on petrol, and the gardener’s invoice needs paying.

  20. Petr.

    You are, in a way, correct, Corbyn couldn’t give a flying fuck about anyone, except Corbyn, and his ….shudder, fuck buddy, Abbot. (How is it even possible?.)…

  21. Petr Tarasov, on June 14th, 2018 at 8:43 PM Said:
    Nobody gives a fuck about you Harri.

    I’m sorry, i simply have to argue, and disagree strongly there.

    Jude does.

    😏

  22. Paul –

    I’ve explained before that the British Empire and post-colonial immigration are two wholly separate things.

    I do not have the inclination to keep explaining the same things to people pretending to be stupid.

  23. Please note, as promised out of respect to yourself as a father, and your eldest daughter, I have not posted out of turn reports, regarding Muslim rape fests across Europe.

    That’s true and I appreciate that H however both my daughter and I live on the Euro mainland. I’m in constant contact with my girl and she’s very safe whereas the only foreign rapes I know that happened in Pamplona was an American who raped a local girl in San Fermin a brave few years ago.

    I note that these organised British Asian sex rings preying on vulnerable girls seems to be a predominantly British thing?

    Certainly in the case of Britain ‘send them back’ won’t work H so I think the only solution in that context is the heaviest punishment possible to the guilty, as much help and support as possible to the abused and increased education about the dangers of predators preying on the vulnerable?

    If for only a glancing moment, I truly believed Comrade Corbyn would be interested in me, as a working man, with a family, I would vote for him

    As I said to you recently, I’d have more faith in him than the current parcel of rogues as the best of a bad bunch.

  24. I do not have the inclination to keep explaining the same things to people pretending to be stupid.

    What’s Jude got to do with this?.

    Jude, doesn’t pretend to be stupid.

    He is exactly that….stupid beyond all comprehension.

  25. I’ve explained before that the British Empire and post-colonial immigration are two wholly separate things.

    And you were still wrong before as the two are closely interlinked as both I and the Commonwealth Immigrants Act 1962 and 1968 explained.

  26. As I said to you recently, I’d have more faith in him than the current parcel of rogues as the best of a bad bunch.

    Paul.

    Call me Picky, but I don’t want, or need, the best of a bad bunch, I actually want someone to actually vote for.

    Surely, we can agree on that one?.

  27. Paul –

    Pakistan (and Bangladesh) were independent countries by 1962! The Sixties was a post-colonial era.

    Mass immigration had nothing to do with empire or the Commonwealth. It had everything to do with radical Left politics and cheap labour.

    Stop it. You don’t know the history.

  28. Yes they were Pete, as were India and Jamaica etc. That’s why it was called the Commonwealth Immigrants Act which demonstrates how it was very much connected to post independence immigration from former Empire colonies.

    Harri, I’ve said before that I agree with some of your frustrations regarding politicians and government but I’m firmly of the opinion that I should use whatever’s available to me, however little, if I disagree with it.

  29. harri

    all me Picky, but I don’t want, or need, the best of a bad bunch, I actually want someone to actually vote for.

    then stop being a thick twat, go read the manifestos, pick one you like and stop with your incessant baby-cry whining on here every 5 mins throwing your hands in the air like some spoilt brat of a child.

  30. Paul –

    It doesn’t matter what the damned Act was called. It was brought about by an alliance of hard-Left bigotry and the perverted desire to flood the country with cheap labour.

    Where was the mass immigration from Canada, Australia and New Zealand? They’re Commonwealth countries, but there was no mass immigration from there.It wouldn’t have served the ends of blackening and de-Christianising the country.

    And you have the utter cheek to talk up Catholic countries on the World Cup thread. With your record you have no right to do that.

  31. Pete, if the ‘greatest gift to an undeserving world’ didn’t exist there’d be no Commonwealth and subsequently no mass immigration from the Commonwealth.

    That’s how they’re interconnected.

  32. Paul –

    If was all about empire and the Commonwealth, where was the mass immigration from white countries?

    Come on.

    Answer.

    Now.

  33. Because all the white country immigration went the other way?

    You lauding ‘the greatest gift to an undeserving world’ while condeming people coming from that great gift to live in the mother country is talking out of both sides of your mouth the same way.

  34. *at the same time

  35. No answer, because you have none. I know more about it than you.

    But feel free to talk about Paki rapists – for a change.

  36. Pete, British Asians and subsequent British Asian organised sex gangs are a result of the Commonwealth Immigration Act, (originally brought in by a Conservative Government), which was a result of the ‘greatest gift to an undeserving world’

    If the seed hadn’t been planted there would be no flower.

  37. Come on.

    Answer.

    Now.

    haha Poor Pete. A word of advice Pete. Get yourself laid and stop fretting about people being *WRONG ON THE INTERNET* :LOL:

  38. Paul –

    Stop being stupid. London has plenty of Turks, Vietnamese and Somalis. Their countries were never in the empire.

    You reasoning is incoherent.

  39. You reasoning is incoherent.

    Stop huffing Pete:

    Pete, British Asians and subsequent British Asian organised sex gangs are a result of the Commonwealth Immigration Act, (originally brought in by a Conservative Government), which was a result of the ‘greatest gift to an undeserving world’

    If the seed hadn’t been planted there would be no flower.

    Oh dear:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Asian

  40. I note that these organised British Asian sex rings preying on vulnerable girls seems to be a predominantly British thing?

    No – it’s a predominantly muslim/non-white thing:

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/05/22/underage-dutch-sex-slavery-foreign-pimps/

    Every year more than one thousand underage Dutch girls are groomed and then blackmailed into sex slavery by young pimps with migrant backgrounds, an investigation has revealed.

    With gifts, drink, and drugs, so-called ‘loverboys’ will seduce a girl into agreeing to become his sex partner before taking pictures or video footage of the encounter which will then be used as leverage to force her into prostitution, Dutch newspaper Algemeen Dagblad reports.

    And Scandinavia too…….

    https://www.nrk.no/trondelag/tiltalt-for-overgrep-mot-12-aring-1.10916986

    muslim immigrants get community service for gang-rape of 12-year-old girl

    And down-under too……

    https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/ashfield-gang-rapists-victims-call-for-deportation-after-attacker-released-from-prison/news-story/a77e84b7b785e09378b04e35dd325122

    TEGAN Wagner was just 14 when she was violently raped by a gang of brothers in 2002.

    More than 16 years later, she and another victim of the Pakistani-born rapists have started a campaign to have them deported.

    In a new petition on change.org, Ms Wagner, 30, described how the attackers approached her after her friends drove her to a house party in Sydney’s western suburbs all those years ago. She was just a teenager and had never been kissed before or drunk alcohol.

    “I was subjected to the most horrifying experience a woman can endure, gang-raped over and over again by four Pakistani brothers, scared they would stab me to death if I did not submit,” she wrote in the plea to Immigration Minister Peter Dutton to deport the convicted men to Pakistan.

  41. Petr

    haha Poor Pete. A word of advice Pete. Get yourself laid and stop fretting about people being *WRONG ON THE INTERNET* :LOL:

    Fantastic. Bravo.

  42. Fantastic. Bravo.

    Indeed – it’s incredible, astonishing, amazing

  43. Glad you agree Allan.

  44. It’s amusing to see the ATW extremist fanatics rally around each other when one of them gets a bloody nose 🙂

  45. It’s amusing to see the ATW extremist fanatics rally around each other when one of them gets a bloody nose 🙂

    Paul

    The little man in the street gave the EU fanatics a bloody nose, and we haven’t heard the last of it from their minions.

  46. 48% would disagree H.

  47. Paul.

    And the other 52% would also disagree.

  48. Yes, but with less than a 2% majority that’s why you haven’t heard the last of such a large minority.

  49. Well that’s me told.

    It’s amusing to see the ATW extremist fanatics ..

    Yes Paul. We know where the Left is. It claims that opposing the mass rape of young girls by savages is extremist.

    We know.

  50. Paul

    The 48% will get their way. We will never be allowed to escape the stupid club, not today, tomorrow, or anytime in the future.

    Hotel California.

  51. No Pete it’s your extreme politics and extreme racism that makes you an extremist, not opposing organised sex abuse.

    H, with such a big minority you don’t think that their views should be considered?

  52. Paul

    Considered yes, enacted, no.

    But that’s exactly what is happening.

    Chairman May “Brexit means Brexit,”.

    Oh please, spare us the establishment bullshit,

  53. You’ll have your Brexit H, there’s no doubt aboout that.

    It may not be the version of Brexit you want though.

  54. claims that opposing the mass rape of young girls by savages

    And we are still at the tip of an iceberg heading our way.

  55. It may not be the version of Brexit you want though.

    It won’t be any version of what anyone wants.

    Us plebs will be keeping those utter shits at Brussels in a life richer than avarice, for many years to come yet.

    Just the thought is horrifying.

  56. It won’t be any version of what anyone wants.

    I disagree.

    48.1% voted to remain and I have read differing preferences of leaving from those who voted leave.

    As I said H, you’ll have your Brexit but a minority of over 48% just can’t be ignored.

  57. The disgusting assaults on England’s youth have been going on for some time now:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/577ae9b98385e3569773740a2e969af314f558734dffc7926b01889c7fdcd1c6.jpg

    I read that Tommy Robinson has been transferred from low-security Hull Prison to a high-security, high-muslim prison in the Midlands with the order apparently coming “from the very top”. Well, there is a muslim Home Secretary in charge of immigration and prisons.

    http://propagandamatrix.com/articles/june2018/140618_the%20top.htm

  58. Good spot Alan. But… Prison inmates are moved at request of the Prison Service which is run by the Ministry of Justice – current minister David Gauke

    Home office has NOTHING to do with it, but then that wouldn’t feed into your narrative!

  59. Strange that for all the info Robertson allegedly has he can’t name the new prison Robinson’s allegedly been moved to isn’t it?

    I smell bullshit:

    https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/tommy-robinson-moved-muslim-prison-14786200

  60. no its fake news evan, you should expect such with allan always double check
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/no-tommy-robinson-hasnt-been-12706229

  61. lol even alex jones reckons its fake news read RT ..lmao nite all .. allan exposed AGAIN ..

  62. 48.1% voted to remain

    Yes Paul. We are constantly reminded that 17.4 million voted to leave, without any reference to the fact that the majority was less than 4%. And the same people invariably ignore the fact that Trump lost the popular vote by 4 million or so (2%).

  63. We are constantly reminded that 17.4 million voted to leave, without any reference to the fact that the majority was less than 4%.

    Because it’s irrelevant.

    One was enough. Leave won, Remain lost. That was the deal.

  64. Jude, I’m fairly sure he’s been moved to a prison (HMP Onley).
    The best source of info is on twitter @lelg
    She appears to be a long time confidant of Tommy and is effectively calling Infowars and the ex rebel media employees out on their rumours and interviews of recent days. Her timeline in the last 48 hours has been entertaining to say the least.

  65. Pete is right. I’ve seen so many people on Twitter trying to spin it this way and that. Leave won comfortably but even if it was by a single vote, the result would and should be the same.

  66. One was enough. Leave won, Remain lost. That was the deal.

    Of course, but a bit of respect would be in order. It was 52:48, not 80:20.

  67. I agree Petr, Leave won fair and square but as I say above:

    48.1% voted to remain and I have read differing preferences of leaving from those who voted leave.

    As I said H, you’ll have your Brexit but a minority of over 48% just can’t be ignored.

  68. They can’t be ignored but they can’t be allowed to change the result. Many are trying to do the latter.

  69. Comically, Nick Clegg(remember him?) has actually written a book called How to Stop Brexit.

  70. I remember Nick Clegg.

    https://goo.gl/images/2QyVcF

  71. I don’t think anyone here is suggesting they be allowed to change the result Petr:

    As I said H, you’ll have your Brexit

    But the views of such a large minority must be taken into consideration

  72. oh i just realised paul in addition to bendy bannanas we’ll be able to eat our own fish n chips on friday – another hurrah and victory , we beat them the bastards, take that you eyeties, wops, dirty foreigners , you can’t trust the spanish anyway right according to Kilroy Silk?
    Victory for Brexit and the wonderful benefits – so exciting (NOT)

  73. What in the world are these bananas References about?

  74. It was a Euromyth in some Brit newspapers Phantom:

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/23/10-best-euro-myths-from-custard-creams-to-condoms

  75. hey good find Paul , exemplary evidence of the hysteria that surrounds the subject
    phantom the country is a deeply xenophobic fearful racist pot belly of a nation
    Europe is light years ahead on matters of health / social policy . drug policy , prison policy, housing policy and just about every other policy that matters.

    Brexit boils down to the red faced gammons amongst us raising fists at Brussels
    and the roots of that are the snobbery/superiority/advantage/privelege of many in the UK who still find losing India as an Empire a bit of a raw subject , not to mention Hong Kong.
    These are the types that would send young men to war over the rock of gibralter.
    You know the score mate .. we are an embarrassment ..

  76. phantom , the above is opinion which we are all entitled to
    the facts
    from the incessant onslaught of newspapers over a 20 year period taking a FOX news approach to matters Brexit, this feeding into the minds of the readers, influencing their thoughts, and survey after survey of British attitudes, not to mention voting patterns and demographics across the whole of the UK , all of that data in my humble opinion added together form the basis of the opinion.
    Nit-picking here / there don’t change that. Unless i have missed a huge glaring fact that overwhelmingly would alter said opinion , if presented i will yield to.
    But if say I am corrected on a point, it may well be only a 1% factor , and so trivial.
    Or maybe a knock-out blow , we’ll see 🙂

    Give way, give in , give out..

  77. Phantom,

    What in the world are these bananas References about?

    The bendy banana story was from a few years ago. One of the many anti European Union articles that appeared in the Sun newspaper. (more of a comic than a newspaper.) It was claiming that the EU were going to stop us selling certain bananas because they were too bendy. The actual truth of the story was that the EU were just classifying bananas by size and shape. Fake news as we would call it today.

    http://www.europarl.europa.eu/unitedkingdom/en/media/euromyths/bendybananas.html

  78. dave you trying to shatter my illusions, i can feel a red-face coming and an explosion
    I beleived the Mail and am so purple now if you could see my face, I feel like shoving a bannanas up the jacksies of all our over-lords in Brussels. Dave I just want the old days when life was simple , no dark skins, no diversity or such things. Just white folks, cricket, warm beer and listening to the Proms, that fine feeling after dinner when i looked at the map of the world and felt proud with the dutiful obedient wife by my side, the children watching the waltons. we didn’t mind seeing black people emptying bins or cleaning the toilets, but not making jam at the local shop. Life was wonderful. What happened to my England .. (lol )

  79. Jude

    A lot of times when people reminisce about the good old days, and everything being much better then than now, they’ve viewing in the past with Rose tinted glasses. I’m not saying mankind doesn’t have problems, but without the most advanced technology, Healthcare best standard of living than we’ve ever had. Crime is also much lower than it has been historically. I think many times people remember their younger days as being the best times in their lives which skews their opinion in later years. Sadly many people become bitter, as negative events in their lives take a toll. I don’t blame them I don’t understand how difficult it can be to remain positive sometimes and look at the world with the same hopeful, optimistic and happy Outlook on life we had when We Were Younger.

    I read an interesting article recently about how people are actually happier during the war years. Even with the risk of being blown to pieces in London, the sense of community and camaraderie was far higher than before the war.

    One of my favourite quotes about mankind is from a film called ‘Starman’ with Jeff Bridges. He’s an alien from another planet. He says what his race like best about human beings, is that they are a very best, when things are at their very worst.

  80. beautiful quote,Dave,ofc I’m sure you spotted my piece was ironic
    I’m happy with many aspects of modern life, its what you focus on , where your attention is .
    there’s plenty that is beautiful and much that is ugly . Balance is everything .
    Hey that young girl got the home office to show a human face, she got her meds . whoopee
    that’s great news and enough to make me happy today 🙂

  81. jude, on June 16th, 2018 at 2:56 PM Said:
    dave you trying to shatter my illusions, i can feel a red-face coming and an explosion
    I beleived the Mail and am so purple now if you could see my face, I feel like shoving a bannanas up the jacksies of all our over-lords in Brussels. Dave I just want the old days when life was simple , no dark skins, no diversity or such things. Just white folks, cricket, warm beer and listening to the Proms, that fine feeling after dinner when i looked at the map of the world and felt proud with the dutiful obedient wife by my side, the children watching the waltons. we didn’t mind seeing black people emptying bins or cleaning the toilets, but not making jam at the local shop. Life was wonderful. What happened to my England .. (lol )

    Yours sincerely.

    Vice Admiral Horatio Nelson

    “B” Wing, secure unit.
    Broadmoor Hospital
    Crowthorne
    Berkshire RG45 7EG

  82. you’d be suprised just how many actually think like that harri, and yes they’re mad as hatters. question is how close are you to that description? and in what what ways do you depart from it .. pray tell .. engage sir, not hiding behind ad hominem, that’s your challenge on ATW . Lets see how well you do , or not as the case maybe .. a chance to not be boring Harri, set the place alight with your wit and aplomb .. be back later i have a birthday party to go to 🙂

  83. you’d be suprised just how many actually think like that harri, and yes they’re mad as hatters. question is how close are you to that description?

    Far, far away.

    Not even close.

  84. Jude.

    Possibly calling people on ATW “thick twats” – “retards” and other abuse, really isn’t very endearing.

  85. Jude.

    I will gladly debate with you mate, but the moment you start with the abuse, I gaurantee you, you will get it back X 10.

    Stay civil, you get civil.

    It’s not rocket science.

  86. Peter –

    Of course, but a bit of respect would be in order. It was 52:48, not 80:20.

    Are you joking?

    Since the EU referendum the 17.2 million have been constantly derided and insulted. We voted to leave the EU because we’re racists and xenophobes. Because we’re old and thick. Because we live drab northern lives without any cosmopolitan touch. We were duped by Putin and the side of a bus.

    And for two years Brexit has been salami sliced into nothing,.

    Fucking respect for Remainers? My arse. Where’s the respect for us? Where’s the respect for our vote? Where’s the respect for our opinion – the majority opinion – and for British democracy?

  87. Europe is light years ahead on matters of health / social policy . drug policy , prison policy, housing policy and just about every other policy that matters.

    Jude.

    You are quite correct there, if you don’t include any of those ex Soviet bloc European member states.

    One example, housing, in eastern Europe there is no social housing, none, apart from run down slums for the Roma.

    Properties are classified as 4 + 2, 3 + 1, 5 + 3, and so on. What this means is, if you find yourself homeless, the state will look at your families state of affairs, if you have say, a 4 + 2, that means someone in your family owns a property, which has four rooms possibly that could be used as a bedroom, and 2 more rooms, apart from the toilet, bathroom, kitchen and hallway, that can fit a bed in.

    Your family, your problem, they can look after you, not the state.

    By the way, in Eastern Europe, when it comes to the homeless, did you know the state has not got any responsibility towards you, unless the temperature drops below minus 15 degrees.

  88. Fucking respect for Remainers? My arse. Where’s the respect for us? Where’s the respect for our vote? Where’s the respect for our opinion – the majority opinion – and for British democracy?

    Chairman May, is doing her job well.

    The majority has been well and truly….screwed.

    But then again, how many more times?.

    If “voting” ever changed anything, they would simply ban it.

    Establishment 1

    Plebs 0

    Nothing, absolutely nothing ever changes.

  89. Europe is light years ahead on matters of health / social policy . drug policy , prison policy, housing policy and just about every other policy that matters.

    Jude.

    If the social benefits policy of let’s say, Slovakia, Hungary, Poland, or the Czech, was as generous as Germany, Italy, France, Austria, or the UK. Why don’t all those Africans and Arabs go there?.

    Why walk all the way to Germany, Italy, France, or the UK?.

  90. Why walk all the way to Germany, Italy, France, or the UK?.

    Because members of the leftist media will help these invaders…….

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/06/13/belgian-marie-claire-editor-trial-alleged-smuggle-migrants-uk/

    Editor-in-chief of the Belgian edition of the women’s magazine Marie Claire, Anouk Van Gestel, and another Belgian journalist are on trial accused of aiding migrants trying to cross illegally to the UK.

    The trial of Van Gestel and Myriam Berghe, a journalist at Femmes d’Aujourd’hui (Women of Today), along with ten others began last week at a court in Dendermonde near the Belgian capital of Brussels and sees both journalists accused of aiding people trafficking.

    Specifically, Van Gestel is accused of aiding a 17-year-old Sudanese migrant named Mohamed, according to a report from January, and calling on friends to help him reach the UK, broadcaster Franceinfo reports.

  91. So what has happened with Tommy Robinson? If he has been moved to the Midlands, that’s not good for him because the idea that there would be few muslims imprisoned there is idiotic. Then again, if he’s terminated, so much for civic nationalism and the alt-lite.

  92. lets do civil Harri
    to be honest i don’t know much about the extra countries added to EU – former eastern european , and its shocking what you say (and i believe you , as you would know about that with a wife from there.
    I do know a bit about germany france scandinavia and how they do business with their citizens, it puts england to shame every time as you agree . we are so behind the times . I’m sure its our electoral system its way past its sell by date. a change would mean more coalition gov’t, i strongly feel that would get important things done as the MP’s would have to reach a consensus . one example
    each gov’t since i was politcally aware says they gonna do something about house building.
    It never happens , its bullshit form tart to finish and get kicked down the road.
    ~its not good enough, they are lousy our politicians ..

  93. Jude.

    Portugal are light years ahead on drugs policy than not only the whole of Europe, but possibly the world.

    I have been working with a new colleague, a Portuguese guy, he explained the Portuguese drugs policy in quite some detail, I am going to try and remember parts of it.

    Okay, apparently all drugs are legal, class A, B, or whatever. Now selling drugs is still illegal, they can only bought at state approved outlets,selling drugs illegally still carries a hefty prison term.

    The drugs you can purchase, Class A, B, are synthetic, but if you really want to, You can purchase the real stuff, but this comes with a provision, you attempt to accept drug rehabilitation programs.

    No drugs can be used in public, public places, or public buildings, drug use can only be used at your private place of residence.

    The was I read it, Portugal now have possibly the lowest drug related crime statistics in any Western country.

    The Police were freed up of drug related crimes, the hospital’s were freed up of drug related incidents, drug users were getting proper care, and they were not playing Russian roulette buying shit drugs from some Herbert on the streets.

    I understand the prison population was greatly decreased in the process.

    My colleague did cite the tax revenue the government enjoys from this policy, but that alludes me for now.

    One thing is for sure, as shown by your post of the mother who had her cannabis oil taken from her, the current war on drugs is an absolute farce.

    I was listening to that oaf of a police commissioner, Cressida Dick on the radio, she stated in no uncertain terms, in her view the “war on drugs” is working, and will continue.

  94. appreciate that Harri, pretty lucid account , we we’re warned year after year from drugs czars appointed the the gov’t the dangers of decriminalisation . Turns out they are wholly wrong, just look at Portugal. I’m still ashamed of my own Party Labour , when in effect the home secretart Johnson fired a certain Dr.Nutt ( bit unfortunate that name 🙂 who has produced a report independant and scientific for the gov;t , they advised going down the path of portugal. I’m afraid until papers like the Mail take up the cause Britian will never change, as politicains fear headlines like were applied to Lib_dems being soft on drugs, with images of Clegg getting wasted and such like, plus out 1st past the post system prevent coalition gov’t which you would need on this issue. They are scared to do the right thing. which is very unfortunate and sad but also make me face go a lil red with anger too 🙂
    Got a bit of a gammon on thinking about the issue ( yikes )

  95. Jude.

    Sticking with the European drug’s issue, unfortunately we have the US “war on drugs” policy, and its a total and utter failure.

    As for social care in Eastern Europe, it’s almost nonexistent.

  96. Yes harri what really gets my goat is the thousands of lives wasted in Mexico due to the effects of USA failed drugs policy. We need Trump to just flip the policy he could do it tomorrow and find a way of integrating that into a healthy immigration policy.

    It’s sad about eastern Europe they seem very hard on each other and that for me is a lack of compassion. It’s somehow your fault if you fall ill and that is just wrong

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