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THE RISE OF THE MODERATES

By Pete Moore On July 22nd, 2018

Theresa May is in even bigger trouble.

A Gallup poll for the Sunday Times finds that the public prefers Boris Johnson to lead Brexit negotiations and the Tory Party into the next general election.

It also finds that about 38% would vote for a new party explicitly committed to Brexit. Considering the emotional attachment that habitual voters have for the old parties, this is quite high.

Gallup reports also that 24% would support “an explicitly far-right, anti-immigrant, anti-Islam party”. So a moderate party then. By any historical measure, these are moderate ideas. If the poll sparks any reaction, it will be an increase in propaganda and the demonisation of normal, decent opinion. They have no idea what’s going on in the country. The politico/media class never learns.

18 Responses to “THE RISE OF THE MODERATES”

  1. Pete, I’d welcome Johnson leading Brexit negotiations. The absolute chaos he would unleash on British politics would be spectacular.

    As for your explicitly committed Brexit party, if this happens the best you can hope for is a Lab / Lib coalition gov. The BNP / NF / trod your explicitly far-right, anti-immigrant, anti-Islam route and got shit all over by the Brit electorate.

    The Nige had this as an item on his LBC show this morning and while there were callers asking the Nige to come back and lead UKIP, (yeah!), I can’r recall any of the callers saying that they’d go the routes this op poll suggests.

  2. Oh, listening to our Nige on LBC, were we?

  3. Gallup reports also that 24% would support “an explicitly far-right, anti-immigrant, anti-Islam party”.

    A quarter of the voting population sounds quite high. Are that many people in the U.K. THAT unhappy with politics as usual?

  4. Oh, listening to the Nige on LBC, were we?

    Absolutely. I’m listening to Ian Payne as I type this.

    Charles, these are the same op polls that told us Clinton would win and Brexit wouldn’t happen.

  5. Pete has for reasons I can’t fathom omitted to mention the single largest figures on the Poll. The 54% who would choose to remain in the EU.

  6. Shhhhhhhh. Colm.

  7. Let us not forget that 4 million people voted UKIP two GE’s ago. And this after the Tories scared the electorate with a Labour and SNP coalition if they did not vote for them.

    No BREXIT will put an end to the Tories probably forever.

  8. Let us not forget that 4 million people voted UKIP two GE’s ago.

    And? In the wake of Brexit they’ll have served their purpose.

    You can thank Britain’s FPTP system for that.

  9. Gallup reports also that 24% would support “an explicitly far-right, anti-immigrant, anti-Islam party”

    It sounds as though the Establishment is about to set up such a party – and it would have a Friends Of Israel group too!

  10. It sounds as though the Establishment is about to set up such a party

    Yes, of course it does.

    Just like the NF

    Just like the BNP

    Just like Britain First

    Down the plughole. It’s ‘the Establishment’s’ fault.

  11. Colm –

    Let me help you. I didn’t report it because I don’t have a Times subscription and can’t find the original Gallup poll.

  12. Stil think that the poll demonstrates that ‘they have no idea what’s going on in the country’
    Pete?

  13. Pete

    So you just winged it then ? 😉

  14. We wing everything. An Englishman never tries too hard.

  15. Jolly good response old chap 😊

  16. It also finds that about 38% would vote for a new party explicitly committed to Brexit. Considering the emotional attachment that habitual voters have for the old parties, this is quite high. Gallup reports also that 24% would support “an explicitly far-right, anti-immigrant, anti-Islam party”.

    But thanks to our absurd voting system, most of those votes would be wasted, assuming that they were actually cast. Remember the SDP-Lib alliance? It got 23% of the vote in 1987 and 22 MPs (3% of the total).

    In 2015 UKIP got 13% of the votes and 1 MP out of 635. Without a fair voting system the old parties will continue to dominate, even thought they are bitterly divided coalitions.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_general_election,_2015

  17. Just like the NF

    Just like the BNP

    Just like Britain First

    Down the plughole. It’s ‘the Establishment’s’ fault.

    Paul – is there an Establishment?

    As for those parties above, they failed to embrace ‘Friends of Israel’

  18. Paul – is there an Establishment?

    Absolutely there is – just look at your bloke Trump.

    What you want though is a nice none defined, easily transferable label to pin on everyone you disagree with and the hidden hand in your multiple conspiracies.

    As for those parties above, they failed to embrace ‘Friends of Israel’

    Of course. That explains why they were absolutely, totally and utterly rejected by the British electorate.