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SPACE FORCE!

By Pete Moore On August 9th, 2018

This is so great.

I have no idea what the perishing puff Space Force is, but this I do know; Russia doesn’t want it, so if you don’t want it then you’re a Russian bot-thing, working for Russian interests.

Isn’t that right?

76 Responses to “SPACE FORCE!”

  1. I think there is about as much chance of this fantasy Space military force coming to fruition as there is of Phantom and Patty getting married to each other 😍

  2. Military industrial complex

    Money to be made boys

  3. What are Trump and Pence going to do with this space force.? Fire missiles down from Space station Donald onto Mexicans crossing Trump’s Great Wall 😉

  4. Pence is the right guy for the job. He us spaced-out 24/7.

  5. Russia doesn’t want it, so if you don’t want it then you’re a Russian bot-thing, working for Russian interests.
    Isn’t that right?

    Errr. No. That’s not right at all.

  6. Both China and Russia are pouring Billions into space. One doesn’t have our pockets, the other doesn’t have our expertise.

    We are 30yrs behind schedule in our Space Program thanks to Democrats from Mondale to Obama. It’s time to get back to going boldly.

  7. Damn it I was born 20 years too old to join space force

    Democrats are to Blame for every thing

  8. Damn it I was born 20 years too old to join space force

    Democrats are to Blame for every thing

  9. If you have bone spurs, you can’t get drafted into the space force

  10. Pat

    This isn’t about a space programme in general, it’s an intention to create a fourth branch of the military in space.

    Although I see you are still as ever blaming the supposed 30 years delay on the Democrats only , even though their were Republican administrations and house majorities between Mondale and Obama.

  11. The Trump administration should instead be trying to do something about the even more vast Space between the President’s ears.

  12. Noel,

    The Trump administration should instead be trying to do something about the even more vast Space between the President’s ears.

    My God, it’s full of stars.

  13. Well, mankind has been militarizing planet Earth for centuries, I guess it’s just a natural progression that they take their Petty rivalries and squabbling into space.

  14. //My God, it’s full of stars.//

    Maybe some day they’ll name a star after Trump – a porn star.

  15. Noel

    Maybe some day they’ll name a star after Trump – a porn star.

    An image of Donny tiny hands, starting in a porn movie just flashed into my mind.
    That was not, a good experience.

  16. No Colm the Republicans carry blame in the halting of the Space Program also, but the anti-spaceprogram was started by Walter Mondale.

    Russia two days ago test fired two Sub Launched ICBM both with the range of 6000 miles they were 4500 miles from DC when they fired them.

    50 years ago we created a Treaty not to militarize Space for the most part that has been observed. Over the past 10yrs both Russia and China have openly put offensive weapons into orbit. Weapons that put not just our military structure under threat but all of our communications and our power grid under threat.

    The US space program was the biggest boom to the world. We would not be able to have this conversation without it. The Space Program was always two sided. One side for science the other for weapons advancement. If we can put men on the moon we can put a missile into your bedroom.

    Space Force is geared to be active by 2020 that’s only a year and a half from now…. how can we do that? Very simply we have a cadre of Particle beam and other space weapons sitting in warehouses all over the country, it’s just a matter of deployment.

  17. Dave Alton, there is only room for one star in donald trumps empty universe that star is donald trump

  18. //An image of Donny tiny hands, starting in a porn movie just flashed into my mind.//

    You don’t need your hands when you’ve got three Russian whores peeing on you.

    Donald just can’t resist anything golden.

  19. Lol that is gold Noel

  20. The money for such a program could come from…….

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-israel-defense/key-u-s-lawmakers-want-to-boost-israels-38-billion-defense-aid-package-idUSKCN1GB2NQ

    but there’s an even more urgent program than that to protect outer space from Russian interference. This is what’s on the border of the US:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-25/record-murders-plague-mexico-first-half-2018-figures-are-horrible

    Mexico posted its highest homicides on record, with a new government report Sunday showing murders in the country rose by 16 percent in the first half of 2018.

    The Interior Department said there were 15,973 homicides in the first half of the year, compared to 13,751 killings in the same period of 2017.

    To make things clearer, the map below is issued by the State Department

    https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/mexico-travel-warning-map-768×511.png?itok=YYHWNo4U

    One of the provinces in Mexico that is advised as ‘Do Not Travel’ is on the border of the US, with Texas to be exact. If a neighbouring country were so murderous as to be advised not to travel, would that very border not require real security? Ah – the Dems want the US to be a ‘sanctuary country’

  21. You don’t need your hands when you’ve got three Russian whores peeing on you.

    What’s the basis of that?

  22. John Kennedy wanted to see the USA putting a man on the moon. Trump will soon get around to wanting to see the USA putting a missile base on the moon.

  23. perfect place for one….

  24. Trump will put a wall on the moon…. to keep the Martians out 🙂

  25. //What’s the basis of that?//

    My knowledge of human anatomy.

  26. Noel,

    You don’t need your hands when you’ve got three Russian whores peeing on you.

    Donald just can’t resist anything golden.

    LOL. Nice.

    To be fair I believe Trump’s story, when he said he thought those young ladies were plumbers, and what he actually wanted was a high quality, bling bathroom fitting, when he asked for a ‘golden shower.’

  27. Patrick Van Roy,

    perfect place for one….

    Why is the moon a perfect place for a missile base?

  28. It’s the high ground…. and the weapons are defendable from there. Weapons in actual orbit are actually very easy to destroy. Ground base missiles in bunkers that deep in space underground on the moon…..would be impossible to strike.

    And defend the space in between with deep space particle beam canons. We’ve had them since the 80s we just never deployed them.

  29. Patrick

    The moon is 238900 miles away and uninhabited. What use is a missile base there?

  30. It’s not going to stay uninhabited.

    Also have you asked yourself a question…. they say this Space Force will be active by 2020. That’s 3 years… Did you ask yourself how can the US have an active military system in Space in 24 months?

    As I’ve already said, we have complete space systems already built. It’s just a matter of deployment.

  31. That’s 2 years…

  32. //””The moon is 238900 miles away and uninhabited. What use is a missile base there?”
    It’s not going to stay uninhabited. //

    Patrick, you seriously mean that the purpose of a missile base on the moon is to destroy potential enemies on the moon, that before building a single station, plant or house, the US must first have something to destroy others?

    God help America if that’s the case.

    When Caesar’s armies first moved through Europe and when they arrived at a new place to make camp, the first thing the soldiers built was not a house or sleeping quarters, not even a rampart or other defences – but always a toilet.

    You see, the Romans were civilised and had to set standards to show the superiority of their culure.

  33. Patrick

    ain’t gonna happen – not in our lifetimes.

  34. Noel, on August 10th, 2018 at 10:30 PM Said:

    //What’s the basis of that?//

    My knowledge of human anatomy.

    You mean it’s a pack of lies commissioned by the DNC?

  35. Patrick Van Roy,

    It’s not going to stay uninhabited.

    Indeed it’s not, but I’ll bet serious money on the fact that we’re not going to see a missile base on the moon in our lifetimes Patrick. And probably, no one else ever will.

  36. Trump’s Space Force will just no doubt turn into Trump’s Space Farce.

  37. I agree Noel.

    For the foreseeable future if a war between the superpowers is going to be fought, it’s going to be fought down here on earth. The Unbelievable expensive putting military hardware into space, will see to that. They’d have to start colonizing space and the moon first, before they start building up a military out there. If they ever do.

  38. If there needs to be military in space, I see no reason why the US Air Force shouldn’t be responsible for it. This seems like another level of unnecessary bureaucracy at best.

    I believe that some senior military are very skeptical about this proposal

  39. no Noel weapons on the moon would have targets on Earth.

  40. Patrick Van Roy,

    no Noel weapons on the moon would have targets on Earth.

    Why would you target earth from the moon? That makes no sense.

  41. Dave and Colm

    Indeed it’s not, but I’ll bet serious money on the fact that we’re not going to see a missile base on the moon in our lifetimes Patrick. And probably, no one else ever will.

    Gentleman my dream for Space is the dream laid out by Roddenberry. Mankind working together to explore and bodly go where no one has gone before.

    Space is truly the one venture mankind can put it’s petty differences aside and learn all that we can learn. It is mans future. We are explorers, question askers, the only species on this planet that can and does change it’s natural environment primarily based on the challenge. We Fly, we live under the sea, we live in space. The Human species craves knowledge and challenge at an equal level as the craving for food.

    Exploration and colonization of our Solar system is the next step. Besides the moon and mars two moons of Jupiter have an 80% chance of biological life…. It’s just beginning gentleman.

    We are still however stuck on Terra. The world is in a constant state of war. The only thing that keeps the shooting to a minimum is parity. Both the Russians and the Chicoms have been putting military assets in space. We are vulnerable and that is unacceptable. Our advantage in the arena is we are 30 yrs ahead of everyone else on the tech. It just needs to be put in place.

  42. like to build a prison pat and send it into space , that be good
    1st guy to go Alex Jones , he’s going down :
    good luck to the guy suing him:

    Charlottesville: Why one man is suing Alex Jones for defamation

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45142881

  43. Why would you target earth from the moon? That makes no sense.

    roflmao…

    Dave go back to the early 70s there are a ton of papers on doing just that. And with today’s weaponry as a platform it’s even better. A kinetic missile fired from the moon would be devastating. You’d never see it coming and the shockwave is variable. Depending on speed you can make the impact zone equivalent to anything from a 5 to 250mgt nuclear strike. And it would be clean No radiation, just massive destruction.

  44. Jude Jones isn’t dangerous he’s a clown and he can say whatever he wants to say. His audience lives upto Barnum’s standards.

    We americans don’t lock people up for what they say, and the best of the crazies we give tv and radio shows too for entertainment.

  45. Jones is a pillar of Trump’s support base

  46. It would also be illegal Patrick. The Outer Space Treaty, ratified by the United States (and partially authored by the United States) specifically prevents placing weapons of mass destruction in orbit, or installing them on the Moon.

  47. With the Announcement of the Space Force as a Full Branch of the Military we withdrew from that Treaty.

    I wrote about that in a post a few days ago. Yes the Treaty for the Non-Militarization of Space, “The Outer Space Treaty” was OUR Treaty. Trump just ended it.

  48. Patrick Van Roy,

    Dave go back to the early 70s there are a ton of papers on doing just that. And with today’s weaponry as a platform it’s even better. A kinetic missile fired from the moon would be devastating. You’d never see it coming and the shockwave is variable. Depending on speed you can make the impact zone equivalent to anything from a 5 to 250mgt nuclear strike. And it would be clean No radiation, just massive destruction.

    I don’t know about you laughing your ass off Patrick, I’m having a bit of a chuckle at this stuff you write myself. I think you’ve been watching a bit too much Star Trek, and not reading enough actual science mate.

    Yes. I’m aware of weapons development in the 70s 80s 90s and beyond. And yes I understand the concept of a kinetic missile fired from the moon.
    Let me make my Point Clear, there is no reason why any superpower would want to do this. As it stands at the moment we have ICBM’s which re-enter the atmosphere at supersonic speeds and are almost impossible to intercept. One of these warheads can Wipeout hundreds of square miles, and we have more than enough of these missiles to wipe mankind out several times over. We really do not need to go to the massive expensive of putting kinetic missiles on the moon which would give us no tactical advantage over the Enemy At All. We are at a point of stalemate at the moment, with mutually assured destruction, and it’s been that way for quite a while. There’s no real reason to increase our arsenal of conventional super weapons at the current time or even for the foreseeable future, let alone go to the massive expense of putting weapons on the moon.
    the real arms race at the moment is a technological one, and improving the weapons we’ve already got.

    Here’s my prediction future weapons development; robotic fighting machines of all types, and advanced software and AI, that can take over and/or destroy systems, or evesdrop and steal information.

    I agree with your previous post about mankind’s future being in space and other planets. Hopefully by then, mankind will put aside its pretty differences and there will be no need for super weapons on Earth, let alone in space.

  49. where’s Phantom?

    Heck with the robots…. the birds are stealing a menial job

    https://www.expatica.com/fr/news/country-news/France-tourism-birds-offbeat_2031808.html

  50. Dave the project that was heavily developed in the 80s was a space based system to defeat ground launch missiles. The system was fully developed, but never deployed.

    Never ever underestimate american weapons technology. Add to that 30yrs of technical advancements. There was a reason the Russians shit themselves back in the 80s and you can guarantee they are doing the same now and this time so are the chicoms.

  51. Patrick Van Roy,

    Heck with the robots…. the birds are stealing a menial job

    I hate to tell you Patrick, but if the birds don’t get you, the drones will:

    http://litterdrone.com/about/

  52. the true threat to mankind

    A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
    A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
    A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws

  53. Patrick Van Roy,

    Dave the project that was heavily developed in the 80s was a space based system to defeat ground launch missiles. The system was fully developed, but never deployed.

    I know Patrick, you’ve mentioned that this technology was developed but never deployed several times, and I’m not disagreeing with you. Just because they develop that technology, doesn’t mean that they’re going to use it. The American military have looked at just about every aspect of technology that can be turned to a military advantage. Even mind Reading. The vast majority of which they’ve never gone on to use or developed further.

    Never ever underestimate american weapons technology. Add to that 30yrs of technical advancements. There was a reason the Russians shit themselves back in the 80s and you can guarantee they are doing the same now and this time so are the chicoms.

    I don’t underestimate American weapons technology Patrick. When it comes to killing as many people as possible, quickly and in truly imaginative ways, the American military definitely lead the way.
    My point was that your enthusiastic promotion of space based weapons has no basis in fact. Sure the technology might exist to place these weapons up there, (although I’m not sure it’s advanced as you think it is), but there is absolutely no reason for the American military to do this at the current time, or for the foreseeable future.

    I’m sure that your military have weapons so exotic and advanced that both you and I couldn’t imagine what they are.

    A bit of advice to you though, don’t underestimate the Russians and especially don’t underestimate the Chinese. The Chinese are highly advanced technologically.

  54. Patrick Van Roy,

    the true threat to mankind

    I don’t think that’s a given, but it’s definitely a strong possibility.

    A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
    A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
    A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws

    Many people missinterpret Isaac Asimov’s point about the three laws.
    If you’ve read his I Robot book, you know that many of the stories point to how flawed the three laws actually are, and how there are many different ways to circumvent them.

  55. My point was that your enthusiastic promotion of space based weapons has no basis in fact. Sure the technology might exist to place these weapons up there, (although I’m not sure it’s advanced as you think it is), but there is absolutely no reason for the American military to do this at the current time, or for the foreseeable future.

    The Russians and the Chinese have already broken the treaty. They are doing it.

    This is a response. We are deploying the systems. That’s why you have this announcement.

  56. Patrick Van Roy,

    The Russians and the Chinese have already broken the treaty. They are doing it.

    This is a response. We are deploying the systems. That’s why you have this announcement.

    My bad.
    When I said space based weapons I meant the exotic railguns etc, in outer space and on the moon that you were talking about. I’m sure that space based weapons such as systems to intercept missiles etc in low Earth orbit are being developed by all the superpowers.

  57. Dave the project that was heavily developed in the 80s was a space based system to defeat ground launch missiles. The system was fully developed, but never deployed.

    The Strategic Defence Initiative? It was never fully developed. It was never fully developed because it didn’t work, it broke treaties, it upset the balance inherent in the doctrine of Mutually Assured Destruction (something which neocons never get their heads around) and was a hugely costly flopperoo.

    But many government-connected contractors made a fortune along the way.

  58. Pete Moore

    Agreed.

  59. I’ve read every Asimov book from his first to last and a few that tried to continue his work. Truly visionary and well written.

  60. Patrick

    Agreed.

  61. The Strategic Defence Initiative? It was never fully developed. It was never fully developed because it didn’t work, it broke treaties, it upset the balance inherent in the doctrine of Mutually Assured Destruction (something which neocons never get their heads around) and was a hugely costly flopperoo.

    Lmao….. yeah nothing worked, we got no where, it’s all fantasy.

  62. Patrick

    Star Wars IS fantasy, every element of it.

  63. Guys

    The Star Wars system worked, sort of. But it was far too slow and too inaccurate to be of any real benefit. At least, that’s what I want to reliable scientific literature claims.

  64. yep you’re right colm all imaginary…..

    But here’s a nice target for those imaginary particle beams…..

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/08/10/iran-test-fires-ballistic-missile-for-first-time-in-2018-officials-say.html

  65. The projects projectile intercept tests earth based we’re quirky, but the Patriot defense missile was still an off shoot and they work just fine.

    The space base hardware works just fine. Has since day one. No one can match our Satellite Hardware.

  66. We Hear EVERYTHING, We See EVERYTHING, We can HIT EVERYTHING….. 😉

  67. Patrick Van Roy,

    The projects projectile intercept tests earth based we’re quirky, but the Patriot defense missile was still an off shoot and they work just fine.

    The space base hardware works just fine. Has since day one. No one can match our Satellite Hardware.

    Patrick, unless you have some secret military intelligence that the rest of us don’t, the fact is there is no reliable way to shoot down ICBMs. Especially on their final trajectory while traveling at 5 miles per second!

    This guy gives a very good explanation of the problems involved.
    I think you’d like his channel.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6MOaECL6FM

  68. Patrick Van Roy,

    We Hear EVERYTHING, We See EVERYTHING, We can HIT EVERYTHING….. 😉

    We’ve lost Patrick guys! He’s switched from logic and evidence to evangelical mode. 😁

  69. We Hear EVERYTHING, We See EVERYTHING, We can HIT EVERYTHING…..

    Who’s this “we”? You’re one of the monitored, one of the targets.

  70. “With the Announcement of the Space Force as a Full Branch of the Military we withdrew from that Treaty.”

    A) there is a question mark as to whether the President can withdraw the US from a Treaty. A question the Supreme Court is loathe to tackle, b) the US has not withdrawn from the Outer Space Treaty c) the President cannot set up a new branch of the US Military.

  71. The weapons don’t hit their targets on the way down. They hit them anywhere from the launch pad through the arc and upto the second before they reenter the atmosphere.

    Hitting them on the pad is always the best option.

    can I get an Amen!

  72. I’m off to the pub Patrick I’ll catch up with you later cheers.

  73. A) there is a question mark as to whether the President can withdraw the US from a Treaty. A question the Supreme Court is loathe to tackle, b) the US has not withdrawn from the Outer Space Treaty c) the President cannot set up a new branch of the US Military.

    Wrong on every point Seamus….

    Obama signed us on to two treaties without Congressional approval…. The President has soul authority over Foreign and International Affairs, By acting against the treaty we stepped out of it. The President is the Commander and Chief of America’s Military he can create, dismantle, even wage war at his command….. it’s in his job description.

  74. Enjoy yourself Dave.

    Do a shot of Vodka for me.

  75. No he can’t, Patrick. He is the Commander-in-Chief (not and) of the US Military. He can command as he see’s fit. He cannot however create branches of the military. That is a power reserved for Congress.

  76. Patrick Van Roy

    Enjoy yourself Dave.

    Do a shot of Vodka for me.

    Sorry Patrick. I missed your message before I went out and I’ve just got back.
    Would it be ok if I had an 18 year old Tobermory single malt, In Your Honour, instead of a vodka?

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