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FALSE ALLEGATIONS MUST BE PUNISHED

By Pete Moore On October 9th, 2018

No-one would deny that rape is a most serious act. I’d severely increase sentences for those found guilty. So therefore false accusations are also most serious. As we see, they can not only wreck lives but take them too. Evidence of false allegations must be investigated, and those found guilty ought to go to prison for a very long time.

36 Responses to “FALSE ALLEGATIONS MUST BE PUNISHED”

  1. There’s social media and the lying slut is fair game – let’s have her ID’d and read her side of the ‘story’. After all, it’s no longer possible for the feminist militia to demand that wimmin be believed given that a mother took her own life after her son’s suicide.

  2. A tragic story. I agree on all points made by, Pete. Rape sentences should be increased. But those who use such allegations to maliciously damage a persons name should receive a very harsh sentence also. This is just as much to protect women who have been victims as it is those who may be falsely accused.

  3. It’s an utterly tragic story and yes, I believe that false allegations of rape must be dealt with robustly, what would you suggest if it was alleged, went to court and the suspect was found not guilty?. Would that also be classified as a false allegation?

    There’s social media and the lying slut is fair game

    Slut? You really do have a low opinion of women don’t you?

  4. Pete are you on twitter? If so do you follow this “gentleman” ?

  5. False allegations should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. However the absence of conviction is not evidence of false accusation. Ultimately in this particularly tragic case there is nothing to suggest that it was false. The accusation was withdrawn. Accusation are withdrawn for numerous reasons.

    That the English Alex Jones that put up the original tweet believes that it is false offers nothing.

  6. Yes, I saw that.

    Of of those here who says that he doesn’t follow Alex Jones has copied directly from one of Jones’ main men.

    And besides, I thought that Google had banned them guys?

  7. They have been banned by all these organisations. In the same way that the most dangerous thing to be in the modern world is a white man.

    Outside the echo chamber however….

  8. That is why these cases are so brutally difficult.

    You can’t possibly prove many of them, especially after much times has passed.

    It is wrong to believe everyone who says that she or he was assaulted.

    It is wrong to believe that an accuser whose alleged attacker was not convicted is a liar.

    Yet the brain dead senators from NY and HI would be guilty of the first wrong, while the brain dead attackers of Ford would likely believe the second wrong.

    Police, prosecutors and juries often do not know the truth. Justice would be found more often if they did know the truth.

    And in the absence of evidence, neither do any of us.

  9. Exactly. Most of these cases are he said she said.

    And honestly, in the absence of other evidence to corroborate, I would advice women not to put themselves through it. Even in non high profile cases they are torn to shreds by defence barristers.

    And I agree with you about the culture of belief. For decades huge diservices where done by automatically not believing alleged victims. That should not be replaced with a disservice being done by automatic belief.

    Everything should be judged on its own merits.

  10. Slut? You really do have a low opinion of women don’t you?

    Let’s see now. A woman makes false accusations of rape against a vulnerable young man, and the young man kills himself from the shame and dread brought about by the lies: his distraught mother kills herself through grief – and I am supposed NOT to have a low opinion of the instigator of this chain of events – REALLY??

    I have a low opinion of some women, and of many men too. Most of the time, they have done something to earn it, as in this case.

    And on the matter of sluts, I’d say that Blasey-Ford is one – wouldn’t you?

  11. No one has any valid reason to trash Ford.

    The only reason that you guys don’t like her is that she was an obstacle to your chattering buddy Trump

  12. There is no evidence that the girl made a false accusation. She withdrew the accusation. Another version of events is the guy raped her and in his guilt killed himself. I’ve no idea if that is what happened but then neither do you.

    Also the term slut is a woman who sexually acts pretty much like a man does. A woman who has multiple partners is a slut. A man is a playing or some other much more positive term.

    So I have no idea (or really care) if Dr Ford is a slut. But you calling her one tells me everything I know about you. I’ve no idea if she is a slut but I do know you’re a cunt.

  13. Phantom, on October 10th, 2018 at 5:52 PM Said:
    No one has any valid reason to trash Ford.

    The only reason that you guys don’t like her is that she was an obstacle to your chattering buddy Trump

    nonsense

  14. And besides, I thought that Google had banned them guys?

    Gulag gets worse by the day……

    https://dailystormer.name/leaked-googles-the-good-censor-document-shows-a-plan-to-silence-political-opponents/

    Breitbart has published a leaked internal document from Google entitled “The Good Censor” that says the company plans to move away from the “American tradition” of free speech and toward a European model that values “dignity over liberty and civility over freedom.”

    They claim that the election of Donald Trump, along with the rise of the right-wing in general, make free speech impossible, and that the old values of Silicon Valley have to be abandoned, and a new authoritarian control mechanism forced on people.

    The 85-page internal briefing states that Google and other major platforms “control the majority of online conversations” and have made a “shift towards censorship because they disagree with the current direction of global politics.

    Along with the election of Donald Trump, they cite the rise of AfD in Germany. They also mention that using an aggressive censorship model makes their product more viable in China.

    The paper claims that unlimited free speech is a “utopian narrative” that cannot stand in the face of recent political events and the “bad behavior” of their own users.

    They mention that all the major platform initially promised free speech, but it is something they just can no longer do.

    Now ‘free speech’ simply cannot be allowed when it goes against the narrative, and there was a hilarious example recently on the BBC as cited by the Daily Stormer…..

    https://dailystormer.name/bbc-attacked-for-platforming-climate-denier-after-bringing-him-on-mock-and-insult-him/

    Whereas it used to be that the leftist media had a solid strategy of bring on people they disagree with to mock and insult them, saying to the audience “look at how stupid and evil this bad person is,” they are increasingly being attacked for even allowing the opposition view to be heard at all, even in the context of a mocking attack.

    The BBC this week brought on former Trump advisor Myron Ebell on a propaganda show about the coming apocalypse that will occur if we don’t shut down all industry and give infinity free money to China and India.

    After an intense Al Gore-style montage of global apocalypse, the host introduced him as “Myron Evil,” and mocked and insulted him, laughing and calling him a conspiracy theorist.

    But the BBC was then attacked for even talking to him at all.

    The embedded video shows the classic BBC ploy of interrupting incessantly the ‘victim’, but the intended victim does rather well. The summary by the DS is the bottom-line:

    Basically, this has gotten to the point where the left is so acutely aware that they are telling outrageous lies that are so easy to debunk that they can’t even allow it to be known that people who disagree with them even exist.

    As is seen from the points made by Myron Ebell…….

    In the interview, Ebell pointed out that the mandate of the UN’s IPCC was to confirm the existing claims of the UN with regards to this great swindle. And he referred to the fact that they are getting grants for this stuff.

    There does not have to be some kind of gigantic conspiracy, as the BBC presenter mockingly suggested, in order for these people to be promoting falsehood. They are being paid to promote this.

    Furthermore, anyone who was on the IPCC and didn’t agree with manmade global warming got kicked off.

  15. I am supposed NOT to have a low opinion of the instigator of this chain of events – REALLY?

    You can have a low opinion of her if you wish. What you can’t do is sexually insult her based on a sexual history that you know nothing of.

    Viewing women in such low esteem tends to be somewhat of a habit with you.

    And on the matter of sluts, I’d say that Blasey-Ford is one – wouldn’t you?

    I don’t know. I’m still waiting for you to answer the question I asked you a few days ago about the origins of such accusations.

  16. Seamus, on October 10th, 2018 at 5:55 PM Said:

    There is no evidence that the girl made a false accusation.

    Seamus – within Pete’s link is the phrase “false accusations” relating to the case, which would be an outcome from the police investigation.

  17. Paul McMahon –

    what would you suggest if it was alleged, went to court and the suspect was found not guilty?. Would that also be classified as a false allegation?

    No.

    An acquittal or an accusation of rape not making it to court, say for lack of evidence, is not evidence of a false allegation. A suspected false allegation would need to be proven, just as much as rape needs to be proven.

  18. Wow a red banner newspaper said it was false and you assumed that an official investigation proofed that – as opposed to them sensationally jumping to conclusions?

  19. PVR –

    No and no.

    Phantom –

    I’ve told you before, and I’ll repeat it here, that I like Paul Joseph Watson, a genuine British (classical) liberal. He’s an excellent and entertaining communicator. That he’s been on Infowars’ platform is neither here nor there, because I don’t look at it or at Alex Jones.

  20. Paul McMahon, on October 10th, 2018 at 6:06 PM Said:

    And on the matter of sluts, I’d say that Blasey-Ford is one – wouldn’t you?

    I don’t know. I’m still waiting for you to answer the question I asked you a few days ago about the origins of such accusations.

    Paul – why not go to the thread where you put the question and see if there has been a response? Tell you what – I’ll save you the trouble…..

    Allan@Aberdeen, on October 9th, 2018 at 7:31 PM Said:

    Paul McMahon, on October 8th, 2018 at 8:14 PM Said:

    That ‘used Ford’ apparently had over 100 previous drivers.

    What’s the basis of that particular claim?

    This is a pointer……

    http://www.shadolsonshow.com/2018/09/20/bombshell-blasey-fords-hs-yearbooks-brag-of-drunken-promiscuity-54-sex-partners-before-college/

    It’s not clear who began redacting the photos and entries and who spearheaded the scrubbing operation that became a race against independent outlets who snapped up the photos as soon as they became public knowledge.

    Of course, it’s not proof of anything. I have no phone-video footage of her debauchery because mobile phones didn’t exist then, but it looks more likely than not. Proof will arrive when her ‘partners’ come forward

    Yet a Court Order keeps Obama’s college transcripts secret – that is true, isn’t it?

    Highly unlikely?

    OK – but they’re ‘unavailable’. In the footage below, Ben Carson queries why a less-than-mediocre student at Occidental College ends up at Columbia University, and then Donald Trump asks about Obama’s passport records – and that is more to the point……

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqyTHFC8nlw

    https://www.wnd.com/2012/08/why-did-obama-seal-his-transcripts/

    Yet it seems unlikely that mediocre grades or LSAT scores would have led to this complete an informational shutdown. It seems unlikely, too, that Obama would have deemed a college thesis too radical for exposure. That he could have written off to youthful indiscretion.

    Trump’s linking of passports and transcripts, however, suggests a potential secret that would demand concealment: passage through Occidental and possibly Harvard as a foreign student.

    We know now that Obama was willing to claim foreign birth when it suited his purposes. In 1991, he famously described himself in his literary agent’s publicity brochure as having been “born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii.”

  21. Phantom –

    I’ve told you before, and I’ll repeat it here……

    Pete – you have to put that one on a loop because Phantom really doesn’t want to know. He says that I frequented Infowars and yet the only and ONLY one at ATW who fixated on Jones was Phantom himself. As I explained to Phantom, my source is the Daily Stormer and in support of that fact, I shall link to the DS whenever necessary and relevant, or even when neither.

  22. Actually it seems that JP Watson and Pete Moore say it’s false. The DM article states that the allegations were made then withdrawn.

  23. Proof will arrive when her ‘partners’ come forward

    So, your allegations of Ford being a ‘slut’ are based on your future predictions?

    Yet a Court Order keeps Obama’s college transcripts secret – that is true, isn’t it?

    So, you’ve conceded above that it’s not true and there is in fact no Court Order keeping Obama’s college transcripts secret? Isn’t that correct?

  24. Allan

    The header shows Paul Joseph Watson at Prison Planet.

    Who owns Prison Planet?

  25. Paul – Obama’s college records have not seen the light of day, and his passport records are under lock and key. As the video footage of Ben Carson asking why would reveal – it’s in the post that you avoided seeing – Obama’s records are secret. And the question put by Trump at the time is of importance. Take a bit of time to review what you didn’t want to be made aware of – there’s no rush.

  26. No Phantom, start your own Alex Jones thread.

  27. A group of five high school “mean girls” in Pennsylvania confessed to targeting a boy with false sexual assault allegations just because they “don’t like him.”

    The boy’s parents, Michael J. and Alicia Flood, have launched a lawsuit seeking unspecified damages, claiming the girls at Seneca Valley High School in Pittsburgh “conspired in person and via electronic communication devices to falsely accuse [their son] of sexual assault on two occasions.”

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/five-high-school-mean-girls-targeted-boy-with-false-accusations-of-sexual-assault-lawsuit-claims

  28. Phantom, on October 10th, 2018 at 6:31 PM Said:

    Allan

    The header shows Paul Joseph Watson at Prison Planet.

    Who owns Prison Planet?

    Phantom – I don’t know because I don’t read it. Then again, who owns US media?

    https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/177×46/serious_question_is_there_a_jewish_media_bias_in/

    Oops – that third rail again

  29. Jeff Bezos and Carlos Slim own it.

  30. Paul – Obama’s college records have not seen the light of day

    And? Just like George W’s academic records and Trump’s tax returns

    Yet a Court Order keeps Obama’s college transcripts secret – that is true, isn’t it?

    So you do in fact admit that no Court Order exists which keeps Obama’s college transcripts secret as :

    It would be illegal under federal law (the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act of 1974) for Occidental, Columbia or Harvard Law School to give any former student’s records to reporters or members of the public without that person’s specific, written permission.

    No Court Orer exists as you allege, isn’t that right?

    And on the matter of sluts, I’d say that Blasey-Ford is one – wouldn’t you?

    Based on your insanity I’d say no. It does however seem that you are a bitter mysogynist.

  31. Pete’s link……

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/heartbroken-mum-teen-who-killed-8518826

    The heartbroken mum of a teenager who took his own life after being accused of rape before the report was withdrawn has been found hanged in her family home.

    The family of grief-stricken Karin Cheshire, 55, said she ‘could not see a future’ without son Jay Cheshire, 17, who took his own life after allegations of rape were made against him.

    The complaint was withdrawn after two weeks but were said to have deeply affected Jay.

    The accusation was withdrawn after two weeks, and a police investigation into the accusation had begun. Now, being rational, is it not probable that the police were finding that the accusation was unfounded hence the rapid withdrawal?

    Central Hampshire senior coroner Grahame Short recorded a verdict of suicide and said he struggled to cope with the false accusations and the investigation.

    False accusations – revealed by the investigation

  32. False accusations – revealed by the investigation

    Actually no. The coroner stated that they were false allegation which the young lad struggled to cope with along with the investigation.

    If the allegations had been proven to have been false I strongly suspect that charges of at least wasting police time would have been brought against the accuser.

  33. And? Just like George W’s academic records and Trump’s tax returns

    and Bill Clintons medical records

  34. No Court Orer exists as you allege, isn’t that right?

    I didn’t “allege” anything – here’s the source and I asked if it were true. Ben Carson and Donald Trump ask the same……

    Allan@Aberdeen, on October 8th, 2018 at 7:50 PM Said:

    They comb through Kavanaugh’s high school yearbook, yet a Court Order keeps Obama’s college transcripts secret – that is true, isn’t it?

    https://twitter.com/PradRachael/status/1047338309666689025

    and here are Ben Carson and Donald Trump asking the same question, and you really should watch this for the media jump to Obama’s defence and ask why Carson would want to know – seriously!!. In the footage below, Ben Carson queries why a less-than-mediocre student at Occidental College ends up at Columbia University, and then Donald Trump asks about Obama’s passport records – and that is more to the point……

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqyTHFC8nlw

    Actually no. The coroner stated that they were false allegation

    Actually, probably yes. Who told the coroner that the accusation was false? That would have been made evident from the investigation and the coroner would have been informed – otherwise he would not have said so.

  35. I criticize these rats for using Kavanaugh’s high school yearbook as a battering ram.

    But that yearbook was never confidential. Every student in the class has had copies of it since graduation.

    What is legally confidential is not in the same status as is the yearbook.

    Not really kosher to conflate the two.

  36. A coroner can only legally decide the cause of death, nothing else.

    False accusations – revealed by the investigation

    That’s not what was said, this was what was said,

    He struggled to cope with the false accusations and the investigation.

    False accusations and the investigation.

    Were charges brought against the accuser?

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