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The Green Fields of France

By Mahons On November 9th, 2018

This weekend will mark the centennial of the Armistice that ended World War I. Known also by what it was not as the Great War and The War to End Wars. Countless documentaries, novels, poems, speeches, movies, songs and letters attest to the horror and the slaughter. It was a cauldron of maiming, death, and destruction. Like all massive human conflicts it involved bravery, cowardice, chaos, evil, stupidity, suffering, genuis, propaganda, comradeship and an enduring sadness. One contemporary said only the dead have seen the end of war. Man’s indifference to his fellow man is something I doubt we will ever see eradicated from the face of the Earth, but is surely something that we should strive against nonetheless. We have a small gathering in our village on Sunday for those who did not come home after 1918. I plan on attending. Like the warm summer breeze blowing through the poppy fields their time may have past but they should not be forgotten.

76 Responses to “The Green Fields of France”

  1. “We remember” syndrome, can we make it the last please
    because the value of human life has not gone up in 100 years
    we have not learnt anything, lets not kid ourselves #Borderline Bar

  2. Beautifully put.

  3. Good post Mahons

    I know that I shall meet my fate
    Somewhere among the clouds above;
    Those that I fight I do not hate,
    Those that I guard I do not love;
    My country is Kiltartan Cross,
    My countrymen Kiltartan’s poor,
    No likely end could bring them loss
    Or leave them happier than before.
    Nor law, nor duty bade me fight,
    Nor public men, nor cheering crowds,

    A lonely impulse of delight
    Drove to this tumult in the clouds;
    I balanced all, brought all to mind,
    The years to come seemed waste of breath,
    A waste of breath the years behind
    In balance with this life, this death.

    W. B. Yeats

  4. I view those of all uniforms and none that resisted the greatest evil of the twentieth century during WWII as heroes each and everyone but see the slaughter of WWI as the senseless, futile waste of an entire generation.

    Mary Dillon from Dungiven in south Derry domonstrates the futility of it all in the sadly beautiful song:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgs1ltCTq08

  5. * in this sadly beautiful song

  6. Great post Mahons.

    Over at Labour HQ..

    Outrage as key Corbyn supporter calls poppy appeal ‘RACIST’
    A LEADING Labour activist has branded the poppy appeal “racist” and “grotesque” – while mocking an event set up for disabled veterans.

    Aaron Bastani, a key supporter of Jeremy Corbyn, blasted the campaign as “absolutely sickening” and called for the Royal British Legion to be shut down in a tirade of online rants.

    His comments have been met with huge backlash with calls for him to be axed from the Labour Party.

    The owner of left-wing website Novara Media posted the video to the page’s 25,000 YouTube subscribers just days before Remembrance Day.

    In the video, he says: “We all know about the poppy appeal. It’s something that is a bit of a joke for people on the left.”

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1042665/Remembrance-Day-poppy-Jeremy-Corbyn-labour-party-racist-news

  7. Jude.

    Well done,

    You never fail to disgust me to my very core.

  8. good harri
    gotta strip you of your smug flab , thin you out a bit
    thank me son

    He sat in a wheeled chair, waiting for dark,
    And shivered in his ghastly suit of grey,
    Legless, sewn short at elbow…..
    (‘Disabled’, lines 1-3)

    Wilfred Owen

  9. so a few went with a poem, a memory
    I went with an attack on the hypocrisy of our leaders
    gathering at the cenotaph for example
    e.g in this song
    the postwar dream

    harri went with an attack on labour
    yes harri you never fail to disgust me to my core

    so lets get this straight I despise you as much as you despise me
    and that’s is all i have to say to you on this thread

  10. Dave – one of my favorite Yeats poems.

    Paul – I suspect you’very see Finbar Furey and Christy Dignam’s The Green Fields of France from The Late Show, if not, check it out on Youtube.

  11. Cheers Mark B.

  12. Paul McMahon,

    Very well said mate.
    And thanks for posting that beautiful song.

  13. Jude.

    You are a disgrace to ATW, and an utter vile human being.

  14. Gents – may I suggest your own personal Armistice.

  15. mahons,
    no problembo , you’ll hear no more from me as per 12:26
    hope your thread develops, there’s room for a “diversity” of views on the subject
    “multi-cultural” perspectives and so forth , might even be a view from “Brussels” as that played quite a big part in the first world war. cf flanders.

  16. Thanks

  17. “Over at Labour HQ..”

    “A LEADING Labour activist”

    “Aaron Bastani, a key supporter of Jeremy Corbyn”

    Utter nonsense. A complete political nonentity, with even less twitter followers than @DVATW

  18. ” The Green Fields of France ” was a very big hit in Ireland for the Fureys in 1979.

    You’d hear it when you walked about in Dublin.

    I wonder if music like that still has a big audience there.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntt3wy-L8Ok

  19. When I was serving my sentence in the Republic I use to don a poppy every Armistice Day. Drove the punters insane.

  20. Eddie.

    I wear mine all the time.

    I am hoping it drives the illiberal modern day liberals insane.

    From what I read…its working a treat.

  21. There seems to be quite the bit of forced patriotism with this poppy wearing.

    Recently, there was criticism of some Irish soccer player ( on an English team ) because he wouldn’t wear one. There have been other such incidents over the years.

    Forced patriotism is no patriotism. If it isn’t voluntary, it isn’t anything.

  22. Dave, some people have criticised that as a pro-war poem. 🙂

    //”The Green Fields of France ” was a very big hit in Ireland for the Fureys in 1979.
    You’d hear it when you walked about in Dublin. //

    It’s very strange how the Irish take to folk music from all parts of the world and make it their own (GFoF was written by an Australian, but probably a lot of people think it’s Irish) and, simply, how popular folk music is in Ireland. I don’t believe I’ve ever heard Woody Guthrie’s “The Deportees” (another very topical song these day) performed live outside Ireland, same with “Hello Friend” (Peggy Seeger), “Dirty Old Town” or “The Travelling People” (both by the Englishman Ewan MacColl) and many others that you constantly find in anthologies of Irish songs.

    Irish politics have in the past been very bloody at times, but essentially political discourse in Ireland is, like the people, very friendly and human. Maybe I’m wrong, but for me there’s something of all these compassionate folk songs in the fact that Ireland is now practically the only country in the west not split by uncompromising and vicious partisanship and “culture war”. After all that hatred and sheer stupidity in the recent US elections, it’s almost a shock to see how civil and consensual Irish party politics is. Compare even the recent presidential election in Ireland, where hardly a dog barked from Fair Head to Kilcrumper, with just the appointment of a court judge in the US.

  23. Phantom.

    Well said Sir.

    Wearing a Poppy should be entirely voluntary, which it is AFAIK, but vilification from the left should be fought against at every available opportunity.

  24. world war 1 was unique in proving the futility of trench warfare, as nothing was developed “forgive me” to get the body count up on either side to be decisive. illness cholera etc played a pivotal role in the end. Now its all high tech, hardly need soldiers anymore, unless its guerrilla warfare and ground invasions. Next is lasers. this could in fact be the deterrent that means human beings don’t lose their lives in such huge numbers. we are in refuge crises period in human history as people flee. Its quite poignant to think that future wars could have results based on computer mainframes , so that a shy geeky long-haired fells who loves his dogs, and is called into to fix a patch upgrade for an important military system could be the diff between victory and defeat of a city/nation !

  25. The World Wars were indeed unique.

    In fact, only a few hours ago I was requested by Three Counties Radio to “do a slot” on recent finds I have offered up to a local farmer friend, with respect to sweetheart badges, cap badges, and other uniform paraphernalia.

    The farmer researched with my help his past generation landowners, grandfather’s etc:

    By coincide or otherwise, one of the cap batches matched with his Grandfather’s regiment, so an emotional attachment ensued.

    The problem being as I explained to the radio production team members, the term “British fields, bathed in British blood” could possibly, or as I have been reliability informed, come from the fact, in the Great Wars, British bloodied uniforms, Trench coats, etc, were in abundance, and were shipped back to blighty, and used in mostly South East farmers fields, ploughed into the fields as a form of compost.

    Hence, “British fields, bathed in British blood” sweetheart badges, regiment insignia, and other World War paraphernalia.

  26. By the way.

    Three Counties Radio, five o’clock today.

    I just declined the offer of a five minute slot.

    Please, tune in, and listen to it.

    I won’t be participating, but my farmer friend will.

  27. https://www.bbc.co.uk/threecountiesradio

    I was nearly famous…for five minutes.

    😏

    Five minutes of media fame, might possibly lead to a lifetime of pain.

    So hence, I declined the offer.

  28. Next is lasers

    https://youtu.be/E-PIidaqCyU

  29. A lot of sessions in West Belfast will still have The Green Fields of France. I think it largely sums up my biggest issues with remembrance (though I agree with both Phantom and Harri that if you want to do it, do it, and if you don’t want to do it, then don’t – and it should largely be left at that).

    For me my biggest issue is the term ‘Lest we Forget’. Remembrance of ‘man’s blind indifference to his fellow man. To a whole generation that were butchered and damned’. And what is sad is that generally society has forgotten. You listen to people (especially this year and in the previous few years – where the centenary of the First World War has occurred) wax lyrically about the sacrifice of the people who died in the First World War. ‘They gave their today for our tomorrow’ – which is based on a line in John Maxwell Edmonds poem about the Second World War. To remember the boys who died for freedom. However, the ‘Lest we Forget’ is the warning to not let this waste happen again – or at least it should be.

    Well the sorrow, the suffering, the glory, the pain,
    The killing and dying, were all done in vain.
    For Willie McBride, it all happened again,
    And again, and again, and again, and again.

    As an Irishman I have no real truck with British commemorations. Let them get on with it if it makes them happy. However there is an intense demand, from Unionists in the North primarily, and Blue Shirts in the South, to commemorate the near 50,000 Irishmen who died in the First World War. And honestly I find myself wondering why? If I pause to consider the Irishmen who died in the First World War (including members of my family – my great Grandfather was wounded at the Somme, his two brothers killed. His brother Billy [my great great Uncle] was never recovered. There is no body. No burial. He’s commemorated at Thiepval along with 72,000 other people who didn’t come back from the Somme, not even in a coffin) I feel nothing but anger. Anger at the waste. Anger that 50,000 Irishmen died so that King George could win a pissing contest with his cousin. There was no freedom to be fought for. Britain was not at the time substantially more democratic than Germany (in fact Germany had universal male suffrage from 1867 [via the North German Confederation – the predecessor organisation for the German Empire]. Britain wouldn’t have universal male suffrage until 1918). The House of Lords had only in 1911 had its wings clipped. And it continued to deny Ireland her freedom. The Second World War can be held up as a fight for freedom, of freedom vs authoritarianism, of good vs evil. The First cannot. The fight to free “little Catholic Belgium” while even smaller Catholic Ireland lay in chains. Little Catholic Belgium which was a brutal colonial power. In the period of 1885 to 1908 a genocide was committed in the Belgian Congo. The number dead is as many as 13 million. A genocide that makes Hitler look like an amateur. That is the small nation we were conned into saving.

    A note in history is that an Irishman uncovered the Belgian genocide in the Congo. That same Irishman was hanged by the British in 1916 for anti-colonial activity.

    It was all a waste. A con. A betrayal. And gives cause to another song that mentions it. ‘‘Twas far better to die ‘neath an Irish sky, Than at Suvla or Sud el Bar’. I will remember the men and women who gave their lives for freedom. In the Second World War sure. But primarily the men and women who gave their lives for the freedom of Ireland. And no one else.

  30. I love The Green Fields of France. and folk music generally.

    It’s not the biggest thing here by a long shot, but its there if you look for it.

  31. “GFoF was written by an Australian, but probably a lot of people think it’s Irish”

    Eric Bogle wrote two of the most brilliant anti-war songs, Green Fields of France and The Band played Waltzing Matilda.

    2 versions of Band played Waltzing Matilda
    Pogues https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZqN1glz4JY
    Liam Clancy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFCekeoSTwg

  32. Did any of you Northerners ever hear David Hammond? He was a Belfast man and a master singer of traditional songs. Totally underrated.

    On one album that I heard many years ago but never since, he sang a great, revised version of “Will Ye Go to Flanders”. I’d pay a lot to get my hands on that album again.

    Will ye go to Flanders, my Mally O?
    Will ye go to Flanders, my bonny Mally O?
    There you’ll hear the captains callin’,
    And see the sergeants crawlin’,
    And the soldiers, how they fall, Oh my Mally O?

    Will ye go to Flanders, my Mally O?
    And see the chief commanders, my bonny Mally O?
    You can see the bullets fly,
    And the ladies how they’re cryin’
    And the soldiers how they die, Oh my Mally, O.

    This is the closest to it I can find

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4a5fDX0Vrg

    But when you listen to his album of “Belfast Street Songs”, then every single death in the Troubles appears as great a tragedy as any World War.

  33. Noel,

    Dave, some people have criticised that as a pro-war poem. 🙂

    I didn’t know that mate. It was one of the favourite poems of a lovely old man that my partner used to look after, in her job as a care worker. He was a pilot in the Second World War, and was disabled severely in battle. It felt right to post it today.

    Good post BTW

  34. It was all a waste. A con. A betrayal.

    Never a truer word spoken.

    Thankyou Seamus.

  35. Good post Seamus. Thank you.

    And thanks for the music links FewsOrange.

  36. The Green Fields of France is indeed a staple in Ireland but I find the song above by Mary Dillon to be a more beautiful song and more hauntingly poignant.

    When I was serving my sentence in the Republic I use to don a poppy every Armistice Day. Drove the punters insane.

    Then you were wearing it for the wrong reasons. There’s something particularly contemptible about wearing such an emotive symbol attached to so much carnage just to ‘drive the punters insane’

    Wearing a Poppy should be entirely voluntary, which it is AFAIK, but vilification from the left should be fought against at every available opportunity.

    Absolutely spot on. As to the ‘left’, I know many people you would no doubt term ‘left’ that wear it.

    Regarding my personal issues on the matter I wrote my thoughts on it down a few years ago:

    It’s that time of the year when the issue of wearing the poppy raises its ugly head again.
    We are told that the poppy is emblematic to remembering those who died in the two great wars for ‘freedom and democracy’ and whilst I have nothing but respect and admiration for those in any uniform and none who fought against the greatest evil of the twentieth century in WWII I can’t understand why anyone would want to remember the wilful genocide of a whole generation in WWI. Freedom and democracy? The defence of small nations? – like fuck it was, it was a free for all land grab by two cousins in the wake of the break – up of an Empire and rather than remembering ‘the sacrifice’ of WWI a much more fitting epitaph for those millions of young unfortunates who were slaughtered would be to round up those Kings, Princes & Emperors, and their descendants, responsible for the mass murder of so many, and publicly hang them.

    We are told that wearing a poppy commemorates those that died in the wars. It does this but it also does so much more:

    The poppy appeal is organised by the Royal British Legion whose mission statement is to ‘help members of the Royal Navy, British Army, Royal Air Force, Reservists, veterans and their families all year round’. That means that hypothetically those that were involved in the cold blooded murder of eleven civilians in Ballymurphy, West Belfast, in August 1971 and the further murder of fourteen civilians in Derry five months later plus the other 272 deaths the British Army were responsible for in Ireland could benefit from contributing to the poppy appeal.

    How could I, as an Irish Republican, in all good conscience contribute to the welfare of members of an occupation army who regularly kicked in the door of our family home in the early hours of the morning and ransacked it for most of the 1970’s? The potential welfare of the three foreign soldiers who as a young child I watched attempt to kick my father around the front garden of our family home after he had the audacity to defend my mother who they had sexually insulted? The welfare of those soldiers who were instrumental in the imprisonment of my family and friends, some without trial, and harassed and assaulted me and countless hundreds, (thousands?), of my peers in our formative years in the Northern Ireland state? How can I contribute to the welfare of those who fought in illegal wars of invasion and occupation in Afghanistan and Iraq?

    Would anyone voluntarily contribute to the benefit and welfare of such individuals?
    We are often told that some of those that the poppy is meant to commemorate fought against fascism for the freedom to wear such things which is partly true. They also fought for the freedom to reject such things so please don’t attempt to impose your poppy on me.

    Wear the poppy if you feel you must, I won’t think any less of you as an individual but please know what exactly it is that it represents and don’t expect me to excuse and glorify blood stained jingoism and imperialism.

  37. I don’t think wearing the poppy indicates one is protrench warfare. Or that excesses or misdeeds of the British Army (all armies have some stains) are thought to be erased. I think it is more commemorative of the lives in general.

  38. Correct.

    I see no jingoism, apart from those who demand that others wear the poppy.

  39. As to the ‘left’, I know many people you would no doubt term ‘left’ that wear it.

    Of course leftists wear the poppy. Without the dupes of WW2 we wouldn’t have the multi-culti shitholes that are now much of Europe and the wider anglosphere. But the dupes now realise that they were duped…….

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1229643/This-isnt-Britain-fought-say-unknown-warriors-WWII.html

    Nearly 400,000 Britons died (in WW2). Millions more were scarred by the experience, physically and mentally.

    But was it worth it? Her answer – and the answer of many of her contemporaries, now in their 80s and 90s – is a resounding No.

    They despise what has become of the Britain they once fought to save. It’s not our country any more, they say, in sorrow and anger.

  40. I see no jingoism

    Try walking about Belfast City Centre from about the end of August and then come back to me.

  41. we wouldn’t have the multi-culti shitholes that are now much of Europe and the wider anglosphere. But the dupes now realise that they were duped……

    Those multicultural shitholes that infest the West like the black plague, are liberal Paradise’s.

    I know, weird, or what?.

  42. I’m speaking about in Britain 🙂

  43. Paul – some people no doubt try to co-opt symbols for nefarious deeds. It doesn’t mean the symbols are defined by them.

  44. This should put it in context for you:

    https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/nazi-grandad-regrets-swastika-tattoo-34841173.html

    As should this:

    https://ansionnachfionn.com/2015/07/01/confederate-flaggers-and-unionist-fleggers/

  45. Those people are about as British as Mussolini’s dog.

    Most real British wouldn’t claim them in a million years.

  46. I’m speaking about in Britain 🙂

    Paul – some people no doubt try to co-opt symbols for nefarious deeds.

    I said I wrote about my thoughts on it. That isn’t a refection of everyone’s experiences.

    The poppy appeal is organised by the Royal British Legion whose mission statement is to ‘help members of the Royal Navy, British Army, Royal Air Force, Reservists, veterans and their families all year round’. That means that hypothetically those that were involved in the cold blooded murder of eleven civilians in Ballymurphy, West Belfast, in August 1971 and the further murder of fourteen civilians in Derry five months later plus the other 272 deaths the British Army were responsible for in Ireland could benefit from contributing to the poppy appeal.

    How could I, as an Irish Republican, in all good conscience contribute to the welfare of members of an occupation army who regularly kicked in the door of our family home in the early hours of the morning and ransacked it for most of the 1970’s? The potential welfare of the three foreign soldiers who as a young child I watched attempt to kick my father around the front garden of our family home after he had the audacity to defend my mother who they had sexually insulted? The welfare of those soldiers who were instrumental in the imprisonment of my family and friends, some without trial, and harassed and assaulted me and countless hundreds, (thousands?), of my peers in our formative years in the Northern Ireland state? How can I contribute to the welfare of those who fought in illegal wars of invasion and occupation in Afghanistan and Iraq?

    That’s the reason the popy is forever tainted to me.

  47. The tradition of wearing the poppy was invented by an American woman just after the war. It took off in America and then found its way across the ocean.

    I like the Irish version of the poppy. I’m not sure if James McClean is aware of this or not but it might suit his wishes since it is strictly about WWI.

    https://metro.co.uk/2017/11/09/where-can-i-buy-a-shamrock-poppy-why-was-the-irish-pm-wearing-one-7066423/

  48. The Canadians have their own version of the poppy pin.

  49. The “Spanish Flu” 1918-1919 killed 50-100 million, on all continents. On a scale of human disaster it was far worse than WW1 which killed 40 million at most, nearly all in Europe:

    “The 1918 influenza pandemic (January 1918 – December 1920; colloquially known as Spanish flu) was an unusually deadly influenza pandemic, the first of the two pandemics involving H1N1 influenza virus.[1] It infected 500 million people around the world,[2] including people on remote Pacific islands and in the Arctic, and resulted in the deaths of 50 to 100 million (three to five percent of the world’s population),[3] making it one of the deadliest natural disasters in human history.[4][5][6]”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu

  50. Yes. I believe that the trench conditions helped the flu to thrive in Europe.

  51. Aah, its that time of year again just after the annual groaning about the end of summer and the cold nights drawing in when we start the “should we” “ shouldn’t we” argument about the wearing of the poppy, and as soon as that traditional controversy passes we start moaning about Christmas being too commercialised and too early . We humans do like a good whinge don’t we 😉

  52. Those multicultural shitholes that infest the West like the black plague, are liberal Paradise’s.

    Liberals a) don ‘t live in them and b) when the shit of their own making gets too shitty, they leave…….

    https://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/article220703605.html

    California has seen more than 15 consecutive years of net resident losses to other states. The trend was sharpest at the height of the housing boom between 2004 and 2006. It slowed markedly during the housing bust but quickened again during recent years.

    The above is, of course, internal US migration and the tidal wave of shitskins isn’t mentioned at all. However, those with degrees who are moving into ‘tech’ live in a sort of Bill-Gated community so they don’t see the utter mess created by those who have fled.

    According to The Daily Stormer……

    California is turning into Latin America in more ways than one.

    Favelas for the brown masses and gated, super-rich communities for upper-caste Whites/Jews.

    Soon, there will be slums teeming with Third World life.

    And no, it will not become suddenly OK to discuss this in polite company. And no, Californians who fled the State won’t talk about these delicate topics.

    Unless we can get Trump to tweet about it…

    Anyway, these liberals are so high on their own supply that are now stating exactly what they want…….

    https://dailystormer.name/dreamers-gloat-about-voting-and-campaigning-for-fhe-brown-wave/

    Chris Valdez @thewhether

    Hitting the streets of Houston with Oscar and Hector to get people out to vote for @BetoORourke and @Lina4HC for this and magical #houwx reasons, it’s a beautiful day in H-town. #HereToStay
    40
    5:42 PM – Nov 3, 2018

    Rodrigo Huertas @orrchards

    Norma has been working every day, too. Making sure Houston votes for the Champions of the immigrant community here in Texas.@UnitedWeDream endorsed @BetoORourke, @Lina4HC, and @juliejohnsonTX here in Texas.#HereToStay pic.twitter.com/Dw6udYQglw
    16
    2:55 PM – Nov 3, 2018 · Houston, TX

    Greisa Martínez Rosas @Grei_sa

    @tomaskenn of @FLImmigrant stays working, stays killin’ it! Out of love for his people and his state. Calling Latinos out to vote. #HereToStay
    8
    8:35 PM – Nov 4, 2018

    Hispanics voting as a bloc (for a white traitor, O’Rourke – is there something treasonous about the Irish?) out of love for their people. I wonder who the escapees from California voted for

  53. According to The Daily Stormer……

    Allan.

    One could safely construe, you are deliberately trying to wind up the liberals on ATW.

    😏

  54. is there something treasonous about the Irish?

    I truly don’t believe there is, the Irish are just so used to foreign rule & leadership, they except any old shit.

    It used to be the British, and now it’s Brussels.

  55. Ah yes. It wouldn’t be ATW if A@A didn’t attempt to subvert an absolutely unconnected topic to racism and Harri to Brussels.

  56. When you can’t contribute and loose every argument you just troll. # Harris story.
    P.s no-one here I can predict with confidence would say i have told an untruth in that.
    Your welcome H. First time I have been bored if a site. Congratz

  57. Paul

    Jolting ATW liberals back to reality often is not a bad thing.

    Its for you’re own good.

    You can thank Allan, Pete, and me, at a later date.

    😏

  58. Jude.

    You mean “lose”.

    😏

  59. Oh, and Jude/Percy

    I’m not the one that has been banned by DV…twice now.

    Do you think,it might just be you?.

    😁

  60. Hey Jude.

    You’re sorry liberal arse on ATW belongs soley to me, and don’t forget it.

    Enjoy…😁

    HEY JUDE UPDATE…
    By David Vance On April 14th, 2017

    OK, I have spoken to Harri and he has asked me to remove the ban on “Jude”. Out of respect for Harri I will respect this- up to a point. If “Jude” wants to come back he can re-register and I will accept it.

    https://www.atangledweb.org/?p=68037

  61. Harri

    Are you not embarrassed by your fanatical obsession with Jude ?

  62. Colm.

    Nope.

    I am determined to help him beat his bigoted hatred of white people if its the last thing I do..😏

    I’m still waiting for my thankyou note from over a year ago, for saving his sorry arse.

    Hopefully Jude’s blood pressure will be at evaporation point by now.

    If Jude doesn’t mention my name, I won’t mention his, its not rocket science, and rather quite simple.

    😁

  63. Colm.

    About as much as you are mentioning mine.

    But then again, I know you love me..

    😁

  64. ‘You can thank Allan, Pete, and me, at a later date’

    They say you can tell the character of a person by the (metaphorical) company the keep. However, it’s not reality, (as your recent comment about Brussels allegedly occupying their neighbours showed), it is mind numbingly repetitive and boring.

  65. I really would like to see both of you not mentioning each other in comments again. Although I think the chances of that happening are zero.

  66. Irish_eagle,

    I think this might be appropriate for young James McClean?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_poppy

    Although I’ve no doubt some would still be OUTRAGED at not being able to force their brand of selective memorial on others.

  67. its hopeless colm

    Are you not embarrassed by your fanatical obsession with Jude ?

    paul this one

    it is mind numbingly repetitive and boring.

    a credit to you of both paul and colm
    you manage to stay on point , which takes some doing
    despite the obvious trolling

    WCC has started in london , I will enjoy a nice break till end of the Month

    http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chesslive

    yesterday was a belter, Carlsen missed a win, but it was a very tough position
    to find a computer-like continuation.

    Have a great day you two whatever you do 🙂

  68. Colm, on November 10th, 2018 at 11:11 AM Said:
    I really would like to see both of you not mentioning each other in comments again. Although I think the chances of that happening are zero.

    I agree?

    And I agree

    Amen.

    Let’s see who cracks first.

    😏

    Cheers Colm!.

  69. your recent comment about Brussels allegedly occupying their neighbours showed), it is mind numbingly repetitive and boring.

    But true nonetheless.

  70. “A Poem for The Poppy Abusers”

    This land was built from Blood and Tears,

    The sacrifice of 2000 years,

    The Romans came, the Vikings too,

    So why would we be afraid of you,

    But mark my words and mark them well,

    It was ‘1066’ since we last fell,

    When it comes to a fight we hate to lose,

    So “Respect” our men or leave …’you choose’.

  71. Who are the “Poppy abusers” ? I know who I would label such.

  72. ‘But true nonetheless’

    Bollocks it was.

    Nice bit of poppy fascism there. I think Shakespeare’s writings are safe yet.

  73. Colm,

    when we start the “should we” “ shouldn’t we” argument about the wearing of the poppy,

    Wear it if you want, don’t if you don’t want. Pretty simple really, I don’t know what the problem is.

    We humans do like a good whinge don’t we 😉

    They certainly do an ATW mate. Oh no! I’m whinging about ATW and confirming your statement. 😁

  74. A whinge a day keeps the doctor away 😉

  75. The real danger facing Europe today is not the existence of nationalism, but of EU federalists attempting to build an empire yet again, to the expense of the freedom and independence of Europe’s nations. EU federalism is pushing the continent closer to the brink than ever before.

    Part of that is the dangerous notion of an EU army. Macron said this week the army was needed to fight against our enemies – and he included the United States in that. I will not be rude to my friends in France this week, because, after all, it is their President, but the man is a deranged disgrace if he thinks calling the United States an enemy, particularly in this remembrance week.

    https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/11/the-patriots-who-fell-in-the-great-war-did-not-join-this-fight-to-see-yet-another-empire-trying-to-take-a-hold-of-europe/

  76. Remembering the dead of two world wars?

    But, but what about the EU and Macron and federalism and crystal ball armies and not occupying neighbours?

    Mind numbingly repetitive and boring.

    ZZZZZZZZ

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