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DON’T TOUCH HUAWEI PRODUCTS

By Pete Moore On December 8th, 2018

China has demanded that Canada release the arrested Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou or face consequences.

Vice Foreign Minister Le Yucheng had summoned the Canadian ambassador and lodged a “strong protest”, a statement said.

The ministry described Ms Meng’s arrest as “extremely nasty” […]

“China strongly urges the Canadian side to immediately release the detained person… otherwise Canada must accept full responsibility for the serious consequences caused,” the statement added.

Meng is the daughter of the founder of Huawei, one of China’s tech giants. Canada arrested her following a US request. She is accused of breaking sanctions on Iran.

So she’s Chinese industrial royalty. Even so, Peking is clearly furious. It’s as if she’s part of the club, a protected person. It’s hint to the very close relationship that the likes of Huawei have with the Chinese state machine, almost as if they’re part of it. Which is a very good reason not to touch anything they sell.

33 Responses to “DON’T TOUCH HUAWEI PRODUCTS”

  1. //She is accused of breaking sanctions on Iran.//

    Oh, my God. How absolutely awful!

  2. She is a Chinese National, and she supposedly was breaking US sanctions against Iran.

    But why should a Chinese National or a Chinese company be expected to obey US law?

    She has every legal right to trade with Iran all day long

    This seems to be extra territorial overreach by the US. Let her go.

  3. When I signed up for Fibre broadband with mysupplier. They gave me a router. It was a Huawei. Had difficulty in setting it up and connecting to it was sketchy. I binned it within three hours. Replaced it with Netgear. Just far better in every way. No doubt Huawei are now producing far better stuff but a few years ago it was garbage.

  4. The Sanctions on Iran are imposed on them by the US no other country has to abide by them, but if they choose not to they are in violation of US Law and ALL our trade agreements with each nation.

    This company has multiple violations first they make telephones that all communications that occur on are monitored by the chinese government. It is part of how china controls and monitors their citizens. We do not allow these phones to be sold in the US.

    With the Iran sanctions we simply state any corporation that supplies them forbidden material is in violation of our Laws and you will loose any trade deal you have in the US market and a warrant will be issued for your arrest.

    Our good neighbors the Canadians seized her on our behalf. She was actually arrested while Trump was meeting with Xi about trade sanctions….. I think that drove a point home with the Chicoms……

  5. So the US is seeking to imprison someone simply to put pressure on their government? Does that make you any different from the North Koreans?

  6. Iran and Gulf countries are in the habit of prosecuting (innocent) Westerners on trumped up charges in the hope of political and/or diplomatic payoffs. The US and China seem to be in a permanent economic standoff right now. It wouldn’t do to prosecute a Chinawoman for the same reason, if that’s what’s going on.

    Even if she is credibly accused (and I agree that she is under no obligation to obey US law outside of the US), such a move might place Americans in jeopardy in China. Either way, China is not at all happy.

  7. Huawei is big, really big.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46490053

    Huawei is one of the largest telecommunications equipment and services providers in the world, recently passing Apple to become the second-biggest smartphone maker after Samsung.

  8. Iran is the leading state sponsor of terror. The US doesn’t lock up petty vandals and return them dead or tortured as the North Koreans do…..

    All nations are free to trade with Iran, but if you do you loose the American market and you get an american warrant for your arrest. The choice is theirs….. If you want the US as an enemy don’t complain when you get screwed.

  9. Yes this Incredibly stupid arrest may well lead to mistreatment Of Americans in China

  10. “All nations are free to trade with Iran, but if you do you loose the American market and you get an american warrant for your arrest.”

    Which makes America nothing more than a school yard bully.

  11. “Our good neighbors the Canadians…”
    It’s funny. Barely a month ago, the same commentator was chastising these same ‘good neighbors,’ because they wouldn’t dance to Trump’s tune or something…

  12. “Iran is the leading state sponsor of terror. (Apart from Saudi Arabia, but they give us lots of money, so they get a bye ball). “

  13. Yes and I think that the honorable fraud endoresed the unjust tariffs brought against Canadian steel makers

  14. Patrick. You can’t say in the same sentence that other countries are free to trade with Iran but then claim that if they do then individuals involved can be subject to American arrest warrants. On what grounds should a Chinese citizen working in Canada be required to obey American law on trade with Iran ?

  15. All nations are free to trade with Iran, but if you do you loose the American market and you get an american warrant for your arrest

    If that’s not a definition of imperial over-reach then I don’t know what would be.

  16. It’s a choice Colm….. They can sell to Iran a country we consider an enemy. As a result we will ban your companies products from the US and we will issue a Warrant for your arrest.

    Her family chose to sell to Iran knowing the consequences. They felt it was more profitable to deal with Iran than the US. Then she was stupid enough to set foot in North America…..

    Her choice…… we didn’t go looking for her.

  17. “Her choice”

    And when Americans get locked up in Chinese camps then it’s pretty much their choice. They were stupid enough to be Americans.

  18. There are two ways of dealing with an enemy Economic force and Military Force. We have chosen to choke Iran Financially if nobody wants to abide our sanctions fine.

    Then they lose their access to our market and they help keep the terror regime in Iran afloat which means we will eventually then just bomb Iran.

  19. The US should have no right to criminally prosecute her, Based on the facts that I see

    Chinese people not resident in the US do not have to obey American law As a general principle

    Extra territorial prosecution, as said here very recently is usually a very wrong thing.

    This certainly appears to be a violation of international law. Shame on Canada for playing along with the Imposter on this. This will harm Americans, and will make the trade negotiations worse

    Not just wrong, not just illegal, but stupid

  20. PVR is the type of American who is astonished to discover that the US is not liked by some, and astonished that his country is thought of as arrogant.

    All nations are free to trade with Iran, but if you do you loose the American market ..

    Fine.

    .. and you get an american warrant for your arrest

    Not fine. That’s a warrant begging to be returned to sender with a f*** off attached. PVR needs to understand that Americans and America are easy to like and respect as long as they rein in the bullshit. Keep yourselves to yourselves, treat others as you want to be treated, and all is cool. But stepping outside of your box is rather rude.

    Just back off.

  21. Pete nails it

    The US appears to be entirely wrong here

  22. //The Sanctions on Iran are imposed on them by the US no other country has to abide by them, but if they choose not to they are in violation of US Law //

    That even contradicts itself. If you are not obliged to obey something, then you are not in violation of the law if you don’t.

  23. Her family chose to sell to Iran knowing the consequences. They felt it was more profitable to deal with Iran than the US. Then she was stupid enough to set foot in North America…..

    Her choice…… we didn’t go looking for her.

    So, one country asks another country to arrest a foreign national in a different jurisdiction because her company supposedly broke sanctions in a third country imposed on a fourth country?

    Universal Jurisdiction is nonsense.

    Who said that?

  24. The US has no proper moral or legal authority to govern the actions of non citizens/non residents in such cases.

    All this succeeds in doing is that the master negotiator completely messes up the trade negotiation with China even more than before

  25. It’s obvious that Trump is now fully signed up to the neo-con project:

    1. Trade war with China
    2. Regime change in Iran
    3. Abandoning Nato
    4. Cosying up to Putin
    5. Leaving the UN

  26. Phantom,

    She is a Chinese National, and she supposedly was breaking US sanctions against Iran.

    But why should a Chinese National or a Chinese company be expected to obey US law?

    She has every legal right to trade with Iran all day long

    This seems to be extra territorial overreach by the US. Let her go.

    Reposted that because I couldn’t have said it better myself.
    The US has no right to arrest this woman.

  27. The Canadians also deserve criticism for pandering to this arrogant and illegal demand. Canada is a sovereign and independent country is it not ?. It seems however that even the Americans are realising they need to find other reasons to extradite her, hence the suggestions that she has been involved in fraud and using multiple passports.

  28. Canada fulfilled it’s legal obligation to detain her under a US warrant, she has not been sent to the US as the courts are determining the legitimacy of the US warrant

    It’s too bad the Chinese do not understand Canada is not a banana Republic and her fate will be determined legally not politically

  29. Pete Moore, on December 8th, 2018 at 7:49 PM Said:

    Huawei is big, really big

    How did that happen?

    US-based corporate execs noticed that China is cheap so, in typical ‘borderless’ idiocy decided – let’s move production to China and shut down those ‘expensive’ US factories – and so they did exactly that.

    This is funny……

    Canada fulfilled it’s legal obligation to detain her under a US warrant, she has not been sent to the US as the courts are determining the legitimacy of the US warrant

    It’s too bad the Chinese do not understand Canada is not a banana Republic

    Canada arrests a visitor to Canada as under legal obligation to the US – and that’s not bananism?

  30. Canada should let her go

  31. It’s part of a legal treaty Canada was required to detain her to determine her status

    If it’s judged illegitimate then she will be allowed to continue on her way

    Neither her nationality or her wealth puts her beyond the law in Canada

  32. EP

    Yes the legal niceties of international cooperation probably do require that Canada has to examine the US case for extradition but it shouldn’t take too long to determine that if the only US case against her is that she is involved in trade with Iran then any Canadian judge should throw the case out pronto.

  33. The Canadians Appear to have every right to be angry at the US over this

    If they follow The law And let her go, the tweety imposter will be mad at them

    If they extradite her to the US, they will face severe repercussions from China

    The American side has unnecessarily put the Canadians in a no-win situation – That’s not what friends do

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