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I WONDER WHO

By Pete Moore On January 14th, 2019

Police have arrested 55 men in connection with historical child sex abuse cases in West Yorkshire.

The men are from Dewsbury, Batley and Bradford and the arrests began in November, according to West Yorkshire Police.

All the men were interviewed and released under investigation, the force said.

The claims made by seven women relate to abuse against them as children between 2002 and 2009.

127 Responses to “I WONDER WHO”

  1. Is it on the BBC yet?

  2. Pete posts a link to a story on the front page of BBC news and Harri asks the predictable question. You’re on the ball Harri, clever man 😉

  3. Colm

    I was taking the piss.

    Wise up!

    😀

  4. Colm

    If Pete didn’t link to the BBC, the left would insist it didn’t really happen.

    😏

    Well done Pete.

  5. Harri,

    If Pete didn’t link to the BBC, the left would insist it didn’t really happen.

    Who on ‘the left, has said these sex abuse crimes arn’t happening Harri?

  6. I don’t think you are wondering who. I’m guessing you are assuming who. And if it is the case then you will bleat on about it for months on end. And if it is not the case then you will forget about it in a day.

  7. Dave

    If Pete had linked to the Daily Mail, or the Voice of Europe.

    The bleating would have started.

    Undeserving world, or something or other, old whitey is just as bad, blah, blah, blah.

  8. Another 55.

    Still just the very tip of a very, very large iceberg.

  9. Given that the UK is just under 80% white, and all races are equal with no differences in intelligence nor propensity to violence, then it’s an 80% chance that the rapists are white. That’s according to lefty-world.

    However, in the real world……

  10. What is guaranteed, is the victims will all be British white girls.

  11. “That’s according to lefty-world.”

    Nope.

    “What is guaranteed, is the victims will all be British white girls.”

    Most likely no. Many of the previously convicted grooming gangs had a wide range (in terms of ethnicity) of victim. So most likely the victims will not all be white. What is guaranteed is that the only victims you will care about will be white.

  12. Seamus.

    What wide range was that?

    They were Sikh and British white girls AFAIK?.

  13. Generally the details of victims aren’t known. But research suggests that, while the majority of the victims are white, they are not universally so. I remember a Newcastle case were 25% of the victims were of African descent for example. I’ll have a look around to see if there is any details on it but the perception that all of the victims in these cases are white is a fiction.

  14. A report by the Children’s Commissioner for England found that 36% of perpetrators of gang or group related sexual violence were white, 27% were asian, and 16% were of an undisclosed ethnicity. The majority of child victims of gang or group related sexual violence (60%) were recorded as “white”, with unknown making up the second largest category at 14%.

  15. All the men were interviewed and released under investigation, the force said.

    Released? Why are they reñeasing suspected sex offenders?

    Undeserving world, or something or other

    So unoriginal you’re even stealing Pete’s lines now.

    Old whitey is just as bad, blah, blah, blah.

    Old whitey is just as bad if not worse but we’ll never hear about it on ATW because their victims are unimportant as they can’t be used as emotional ammo to push an agenda about race and immigration.

  16. Seamus

    How many were African?

  17. Harri

    You were caught out. you weren’t taking the piss. I bet you didn’t even check Pete’s link. You were straight off the starting block implying the BBC wouldn’t be covering it and then,…. oops !

  18. Colm

    Wise up!

    😀

  19. More little girls raped and abused by Pakis.

    And Colm more concerned with “catching me out”

    You lefties sure are weird.

    😏

  20. 16%, of whom 3% were listed as African, 2% as Afro-Caribbean and the rest as undisclosed.

    36% White, 27% Asian, 16% Black, 3% Mixed Race, 16% undisclosed and 1% other. It actually only adds up to 99 (due to rounding errors).

    Victims are:

    60% White, 5% Asian, 13% Black, 6% Mixed, 14% undisclosed and 2% other.

  21. Seamus

    I will assume its the 60% you have no interest in then?.

  22. Victims are:

    60% White, 5% Asian, 13% Black, 6% Mixed, 14% undisclosed and 2% other.

    Its not that I don’t trust you

    But have you got a link?

    😏

  23. I have interest in the 100%. You are the one who is selective in your outrage on this subject.

  24. Harri,

    If Pete had linked to the Daily Mail, or the Voice of Europe.

    The bleating would have started.

    The only time people start ‘bleating’, is when a link is making claims of dubious veracity.
    No one on here on ‘the left’, as you put it, has ever denied these disgusting crimes have happened as far as I know.

  25. I posted a link. It doesn’t seem to be coming up. Sometimes comments with just links in it get stuck in the filter on here.

    But it is a report from the Office of the Children’s Commissioner – Inquiry into Child Sexual Exploitation In Gangs and Groups called “I thought I was the only one. The only one in the world”.

  26. Seamus, on January 14th, 2019 at 8:11 PM Said:
    I have interest in the 100%. You are the one who is selective in your outrage on this subject.

    Of course, I can tell that by the shear amount of times you have linked to reports about Paki grooming gangs raping children on an industrial scale

    Silly me!

  27. Stop being a racist cunt.

    Firstly, as shown by the report I linked to, the largest group of perpetrators are white. Yes Asian grooming gangs are disproportionately involved. Yes that is a problem. However you have yet to come up with a reasonable solution to it.

    I honestly think you don’t even give a shit about white girls being raped by Asian men. It just fuels your casual bigotry and so you love it when a story like this comes out.

  28. Victims are:

    60% White, 5% Asian, 13% Black, 6% Mixed, 14% undisclosed and 2% other.

    So it appears no children are safe from the Pakistani gang rapists then?

  29. “So it appears no children are safe from the Pakistani gang rapists then?”

    You missed the largest group of perpetrators are white bit didn’t you. Selective reading of statistics. No wonder you want to fuck Allan so much.

  30. Seamus, on January 14th, 2019 at 8:17 PM Said:
    Stop being a racist cunt.

    Classy.

    😀

  31. I call it like I see it. Nothing classy about being a racist cunt. And nothing unclassy about calling a racist cunt a racist cunt.

  32. You missed the largest group of perpetrators are white bit didn’t you. Selective reading of statistics. No wonder you want to fuck Allan so much.

    Nice!

    Carry on…

    😀

  33. I have interest in the 100%. You are the one who is selective in your outrage on this subject.

    Absolutely Seamus, well said. Eighteen peados convicted in Essex in 2018 alone. I didn’t see Tom Thug cover the trials or ATW report the stories right enough.

    Victims of sexual abuse are unimportant to Rightworld if they can’t be used to forward an ulterior racial immigration motive. The only important thing is the ethnicity of the alleged perpetrators.

    Colm, I suspect your 8.04 is spot on.

    So it appears no children are safe from the Pakistani gang rapists then?

    It also appears that the sex offenders were 60% White, 5% Asian, 13% Black, 6% Mixed, 14% undisclosed and 2% other and ‘what is guaranteed, is the victims will all be British white girls’ isn’t guaranteed at all.

    Isn’t that right?

  34. Firstly, as shown by the report I linked to, the largest group of perpetrators are white. Yes Asian grooming gangs are disproportionately involved. Yes that is a problem

    A problem?

    I would say that’s quite some understatement, seeming as Pakis apparently only make up a tiny percentage of the entire population.

    Get a grip.

  35. What percentage of the population do racist cunts like you make up?

  36. It also appears that the sex offenders were 60% White, 5% Asian, 13% Black, 6% Mixed, 14% undisclosed and 2% other

    ?

    Victims are:

    60% White, 5% Asian, 13% Black, 6% Mixed, 14% undisclosed and 2% other.

    You’re welcome.

  37. Seeming as Pakis apparently only make up a tiny percentage of the entire population.

    Fuuny how it’s not an ‘invasion’ or ‘population replacement’ ‘cultural genocide’ or any of that other bollocks when it’s inconveniant to the narrative.

  38. Seamus, on January 14th, 2019 at 8:25 PM Said:
    What percentage of the population do racist cunts like you make up?

    Staying classy

    😀

  39. Nothing unclassy about calling a racist cunt like you a racist cunt.

  40. Nothing unclassy about calling a racist cunt like you a racist cunt.

    Yep, staying classy.

    😀

  41. Apologies, should read:

    It also appears that the sex offenders were 36% White, 27% Asian, 16% Black, 3% Mixed Race, 16% undisclosed and 1% other and ‘what is guaranteed, is the victims will all be British white girls’ isn’t guaranteed at all.

    Isn’t that right?

  42. Seamus

    I have interest in the 100%. You are the one who is selective in your outrage on this subject.

    Absolutely. Harri’s outrage and hate, is mostly directed at those he pigion holes as leftys and liberals on ATW, rarther than the perpetrators of these crimes.
    I’ve lost count of the number of times he accuses us of ignoring these crimes, or not caring about the victims, despite being repeatedly told that’s untrue.

  43. Wailing racist every five minutes..

    The last refuge of a scoundrel

    😏

  44. “Wailing racist every five minutes..”

    What’s patriotic about it?

    And if you are going to be a racist cunt don’t be annoyed when people call you racist.

  45. I took a look down the diversionary rabbit-hole that Seamus is setting up and I saw the name Sue Berelowitz as author of a report that, according to Seamus, states 60% of child rapists as white – but that name was one that I’d seen somewhere…….

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3095515/Treasury-signed-disgraceful-134k-pay-child-protection-boss-failed-speak-abuse-Pakistani-gangs-rehired-consultant-24-hours-1k-DAY.html

    Treasury signed off ‘disgraceful’ £134k pay-off for child protection boss who failed to speak out about abuse by Pakistani gangs and was rehired as a consultant within 24 hours on £1k a DAY

    Deputy children’s commissioner Sue Berelowitz failed to raise the alarm
    Took voluntary redundancy on April 30 and landed new job the next day
    Current role has her leading inquiry into child abuse in family she had charge of in previous post
    The 61-year-old is paid £960 a day – working up to nine days a month

    Her picture is in the link and the -itz that is missing from John Bercow gives a clue as to how 60% of child rapists are white. Let’s go further……

    https://dailystormer.name/jewnited-kikedom-jewess-child-protector-fired-for-failing-to-stop-paki-pedo-gang-rape-is-rehired-the-next-day/

    Her report was instrumental in burying the problem for years. People want to blame this Paki rape ordeal on political correctness, and that is a part of it, but the biggest part is Jews in the government and media who wanted this to continue and actively made certain it did. It wasn’t some massive accident.

    And yet, she is not only not going to jail, she is profiting massively from purposefully allowing White children to be trafficked and raped by Pakis.

  46. Harri,

    Well done Pete.

    Yes we’ll done Indeed Pete. You’ve managed to find a link on the BBC, rather than claiming they’re ignoring the story, and then have us all prove you wrong.

  47. And if you are going to be a racist cunt don’t be annoyed when people call you racist.

    Annoyed?

    Get a grip.

    😀

  48. Isn’t it strange how when it’s proven that ‘more little girls raped and abused by Pakis’ isn’t in fact the case Harri imediately changes tack to faux offence at being called a racist how can he be a racist? don’t you know he has ‘Jewish heritage’? instead of following the line of conversation he made a wab of himself with?

  49. Seamus.

    I haven’t laughed so much since the old King died.

    I would have thought calling someone a cunt is pretty much showing annoyance.

    😀

  50. Seamus

    It doesn’t help the thread to allow yourself to sink to the level of bottom scraping language that ATW doesn’t need. Your anger is wasted on Harri who just laughs it off.

  51. Colm,

    It is not a word I said in anger, nor one I use regularly. But I’m willing to break it out for the pond-scum of the world. It shows the depth of my contempt for them.

  52. Colm

    But, but, but..

    Seamus is not annoyed..

    I am…apparently.

    The left are just so strange, entertaining yes, but very, very strange.

    😂

  53. I would have thought calling someone a cunt is pretty much showing annoyance.

    What does calling someone a ‘Paki’ show?

  54. Seamus

    Pond scum

    Classy!

  55. Your anger is wasted on Harri who just laughs it off.

    Colm

    Wise words.

    Seamus..take note.

    😀

  56. Paul McMahon, on January 14th, 2019 at 8:21 PM Said:

    It also appears that the sex offenders were 60% White, 5% Asian, 13% Black, 6% Mixed, 14% undisclosed and 2%

    Paul McMahon, on January 14th, 2019 at 8:30 PM Said:

    Apologies, should read:

    It also appears that the sex offenders were 36% White, 27% Asian, 16% Black, 3% Mixed Race, 16% undisclosed and 1%

    OK – 36% white and 27% ‘asian’…..

    Anyway, here’s the cover-up:

    https://dera.ioe.ac.uk/23810/7/If%20its%20not%20better%20its%20not%20the%20end_web%20copy.pdf

    Page 21 of 41

    19 police forces reported 1,231 perpetrators of group and gang-based CSE. 42% of these were White or White British, 14% are Asian or Asian British, 17% are Black or Black British and 22% are of unrecorded ethnicity.

    Really?

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Easy-Meat-Britains-Grooming-Scandal/dp/1943003068

    The authorities now still don’t know how to deal with it, Muslim communities are not doing anything to combat the situation and neither do they have the will otherwise we would have seen a concerted effort and that will never happen.
    From what we know i think the 100,000 victims in a very conservative estimate more likely to be far in excess of that figure.
    What I don’t understand is why the authorities are not all over this brilliant book?

    The ‘authorities’ facilitated the campaign of rape against British girls and are covering their arses.

  57. Perhaps Seamus, but it also makes Harri feel more important and impactive than he deserves. I wouldn’t get annoyed by anything Harri says. He is a rent a quote cliche machine . Sensible argument and reason bounces off him. He is deserving of gentle mockery, not searing contempt 😉

  58. “From what we know i think the 100,000 victims in a very conservative estimate more likely to be far in excess of that figure.”

    I think its 5. 5 people. See I can make up numbers too.

    Colm,

    True. Mostly I was moving my normal term for Harri’s hetero life partner Allan onto Harri.

  59. I’m just reading the shit that Seamus has thrown up as a diversion from what we all know as being the root and cause of the massive rape campaign against British girls and its cover-up. Here’s the flavour – page 28 of 41, but anywhere will do……

    Strategic planning was identified by professionals as being central to effective practice. Given that CSE requires a multi-agency response, responsibility for strategic planning at a local level is shared by all agencies. LSCBs have a role in the strategic coordination of responses to CSE, and partners should produce strategic analyses or problem profiles of CSE to inform the development of local plans and strategies.

    “Strategic Planning” – this is utter shit, the sort of gobbledy-gook that is produced by social stidies graduates to cover, deceive, obfuscate, and collude: they are criminals.

  60. Strategic planning has been identified as a useful tool in helping organisations meet their goals. It was first started in the private sector before moving to the public sector. SWOT analysis and scenario planning are pretty much universal now.

  61. I think its 5. 5 people. See I can make up numbers too.

    No shit Sherlock!

  62. It’s also not the report I have. Not least because the one I’m reading from has 137 pages, not 41.

  63. Here’s a real investigation into the muslim rape campaign against British girls that Seamus wants covered-up……

    https://archive.org/stream/EasyMeatIslam/easy%20meat%20islam_djvu.txt

    A Sikh media group says that Britain cannot defeat the
    Muslim grooming gangs “unless the politically correct lobby stop
    putting up a smokescreen to hide the fact that this issue is about
    the Muslim community .” 2 Other Sikh organisations have claimed
    that Muslim men were going to great lengths in order to seduce and/or
    convert Sikh girls (the Muslim men would change their names to Sikh
    names, wear jewellery that indicated the wearer was a Sikh). 3 Sikh
    websites have claimed that, as far back as 1992, Muslim men were
    given specific instructions from Islamic fundamentalist organisations,
    groups which seeks to re-establish the Caliphate. We have been not
    been able to refute or verify these allegations. The idea that a devout
    religious organisation would encourage such behaviour is very
    difficult to believe. 4 What can be objectively verified, is that these

    2 Rebecca Camber & James Tozer, “Teenager who Lured Girls into House to
    be Raped by Asian Gang is Jailed for Seven Years”, The Daily Mail , 3 Sep
    2011,
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2033022/Teenager-lured-girls-house
    – gang-raped- Asian- gang-j ailed- seven- years .html.

    Let’s do a verification…..

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2033022/Teenager-lured-girls-house-gang-raped-Asian-gang-jailed-seven-years.html

    Ashish Joshi, of Sikh Media Monitoring, said efforts to tackle the problem needed to focus on the Muslim community.

    ‘It’s a small element who treat white and Sikh girls as sexual playthings, and we aren’t going to tackle it successfully unless the politically correct lobby stop putting up a smokescreen to hide the fact that this issue is about the Muslim community.’

    OK – that’s true

  64. Yeah a book called Easy Meat Islam, who’s author is mates with Tommy Robinson (they even co-wrote a book together – most likely McLaughlin wrote it and used Robinson’s name to get to a wider audience, showing exactly who his target audience is) is really, really going to be an impartial investigation into the problem.

  65. Seamus, on January 14th, 2019 at 8:57 PM Said:

    Strategic planning has been identified as a useful tool in helping organisations meet their goals. It was first started in the private sector before moving to the public sector. SWOT analysis and scenario planning are pretty much universal now.

    How about stopping girls from getting raped by muslim gangs? Plan me that one! It’s just shit, verbiage, of the kind that you immerse yourself in instead of a real job.

    Seamus – what is your job?

  66. “Seamus – what is your job?”

    I’m a policy analyst for a lobbying company in Northern Ireland.

  67. Seamus, on January 14th, 2019 at 9:05 PM Said:

    Yeah a book called Easy Meat

    That’s right – all fully detailed and referenced. I’m checking through it now and, as we see, it states the reality whilst you attempt to deceive.

  68. Seamus – what is your job?

    I shouldn’t think its anything to do with anger management?

  69. ” I’m checking through it now and, as we see, it states the reality whilst you attempt to deceive.”

    It states what you believe to be the reality – ie it confirms your bias and that is why you like stuff like that.

  70. Seamus, on January 14th, 2019 at 9:05 PM Said:

    “Seamus – what is your job?”

    I’m a policy analyst for a lobbying company in Northern Ireland.

    Yes – and it’s totally jobsworth shit. Here’s more from the ‘report’ linked at 8.46pm and I’m lucky that it’s just 41 pages of shit instead of the 137 pages that Seamus has…..

    The Inquiry found that failures by agencies and professionals to share information about children at risk and those known to be victims was a significant contributory factor in poor practice and ineffective outcomes. We were pleased to establish that 81% of LSCBs now report that an information sharing agreement is in place in their area, with a further 11% of LSCBs stating that an information sharing agreement is under development. Many have noted that information sharing is captured in their CSE strategy.
    An information sharing agreement should exist independently of a strategy, and
    should cover all forms of child abuse

    ‘Information sharing’, ‘Strategic Planning’, ‘Sharing Protocols’ – this is known as Bullshit Bingo where I take a sheet with all the buzzwords into a management meeting and tick them off until I have a row or column completed. As is typical with this echelon, no real work is done but plenty of reports, recommendations, initiatives etc. result – but the rapes go on….

  71. I wonder who, I wonder why
    Santa and his reindeer are able to fly
    But all that I can see
    Is another right-wing fantasy…

    You lads love it. And don’t care one jot for the victims.

  72. Seamus, on January 14th, 2019 at 9:10 PM Said:

    ” I’m checking through it now and, as we see, it states the reality whilst you attempt to deceive.”

    It states what you believe to be the reality – ie it confirms your bias and that is why you like stuff like that.

    Yes – I’m biased against gang rape of British girls. If British men did it, they would be traitors and should be hanged – but the perpetrators are muslims incomers whose beliefs justify their behaviour to themselves. Seamus, on the other hand, does not want it stopped. How low can a man go?

  73. Information sharing’, ‘Strategic Planning’, ‘Sharing Protocols’ – this is known as Bullshit Bingo

    It sounds like common purpose bullshit to me..

  74. It states the reality whilst you attempt to deceive.

    How is Seamus attempting to decieve?

    How about stopping girls from getting raped by muslim gangs?

    36% White, 27% Asian, 16% Black, 3% Mixed Race, 16% undisclosed and 1% other. It actually only adds up to 99 (due to rounding errors).

    Are those stats correct? How about stopping girls being raped by anyone as opposed to your solitary selection?

    I shouldn’t think its anything to do with anger management?

    The beginning of another one of Harri’s innovative identity inventions?

    It sounds like common purpose bullshit to me..

  75. Allan

    Yes – and it’s totally jobsworth shit.

    I was putting in a floor and fitting a central heating pump last week. Is that a proper job?

  76. “Yes – and it’s totally jobsworth shit.”

    I’m sure it is. You know the way the private sector normally pay money for nonsense jobs.

    “Seamus, on the other hand, does not want it stopped. “

    I’m sure I don’t. Your racism is completely destroying your reasoning skills Adolf.

  77. But we know your game Allan. If it is unscientific crap, non-peer reviewed, selective playing with statistics and simply trying to find evidence to fit your theories then it should be shouted from the rafters.

    If it is doesn’t conform to your bias then it is clearly trying to obfuscate and was probably written by a (((Jew))).

  78. Seamus, arguing against and disproving their skewed bollocks regularly leads to such unfounded allegations. I’ve had it for years.

  79. “Seamus, arguing against and disproving their skewed bollocks regularly leads to such unfounded allegations. I’ve had it for years.”

    Exactly. Their empty rhetoric is only a cover for their nasty, nasty attitudes to people. Even their selective opposition to rape is indicative of not only their rampant racism but also their rampant misogyny – “These are our women and only we get to rape them”.

    Scratch the surface and the nasty comes out.

  80. Seamus.

    Very well said.

    Paul.

    I’ve given up trying to reason with them mate. They’re not interested in reasoned debate. And when you disprove their bollocks, they just move onto some other bollocks like true conspiracy theorists.

  81. I was putting in a floor and fitting a central heating pump last week. Is that a proper job?

    Did you carry out a strategic review on the central heating pump, a report on sharing of protocols, and of course, information acquisition and distribution? Or did you just go ahead and install the pump?

  82. What d’you mean, you “wonder who”? Don’t you know the media code yet? Full description per link, errr….men. So immediately we know what demographic of men it ISN’T.

  83. Scratch the surface and the nasty comes out.

    Soetimes you don’t even have to scratch the surface. It’s trulu Alice Through The Looking Glass stuff when a self admitted racist can take faux umbrage at being called a racist and attempt to slag someone off for it.

    As for ‘staying classy’

    Harri, on February 27th, 2016 at 9:20 PM Said:

    Paul – The Muslim dhimmi bitch of the year award is all yours.

    That Muslim cock to suck is all yours.

    Enjoy.

  84. Seamus – thousands of British girls have been raped by muslims. It has been shown that the victims of this campaign are overwhelmingly white and the perpetrators are overwhelmingly Pakistani muslim. As a desperate effort to cover up these facts, you linked to reports by a demonstrable liar……

    Seamus, on January 14th, 2019 at 7:56 PM Said:

    A report by the Children’s Commissioner for England found that 36% of perpetrators of gang or group related sexual violence were white, 27% were asian, and 16% were of an undisclosed ethnicity.

    Allan@Aberdeen, on January 14th, 2019 at 8:37 PM Said:

    I took a look down the diversionary rabbit-hole that Seamus is setting up and I saw the name Sue Berelowitz as author of a report that, according to Seamus, states 60% of child rapists as white – but that name was one that I’d seen somewhere…….

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3095515/Treasury-signed-disgraceful-134k-pay-child-protection-boss-failed-speak-abuse-Pakistani-gangs-rehired-consultant-24-hours-1k-DAY.html

    Treasury signed off ‘disgraceful’ £134k pay-off for child protection boss who failed to speak out about abuse by Pakistani gangs and was rehired as a consultant within 24 hours on £1k a DAY

    who, like you, attempted to cover up the facts as stated. I can understand why jews are attempting to cover for their muslims imports as they do everywhere, but why are you attempting to cover up the facts? On Pete’s item above, who do you reckon are the perps?

  85. I think what surprises me most, and disgusts me the most about them, is that most racism today is veiled racism or dog whistle type stuff. It is rare, in this day and age anyway, to see someone be so openly in your face racist as the likes Allan and Harri.

  86. “It has been shown that the victims of this campaign are overwhelmingly white and the perpetrators are overwhelmingly Pakistani muslim.”

    It hasn’t. It has been alleged, without reason or foundation, by racist pond life like yourself.

    The actual numbers don’t back up your beliefs so, like a good little fanatic, you decide the numbers must be wrong, not the belief.

  87. Allan@Aberdeen,

    Did you carry out a strategic review on the central heating pump,

    If you call me calling the plumber who fitted the system a lazy c**t for not installing isolator valves either side of the pump, meaning I had to drain the system, then yes, I did.

  88. Oh, blah blah blah waah-waaah-waah-wacist wacist. Put a sock in it, the word “racist” is just a leftist buzzword which translates as “shut up”. Committing or conspiring to commit actual violence on persons (regardless of their race) is a crime; holding the mere opinion that the races of homosapien are different and that they should, by and large, live in their own lands untainted by multiculturalism, is merely an opinion, and a legitimate one.

  89. Seamus –

    It has been alleged, without reason or foundation, by racist pond life like yourself.

    And Pakistani racists called Haras Rafiq and Muna Adil?

    https://www.quilliaminternational.com/press-release-new-quilliam-report-on-grooming-gangs/

    A new report by Quilliam International has found an alarming level of over-representation of (South) Asian men in group-based child sexual exploitation crimes, otherwise known as ‘grooming gangs’.

    In light of the recent spate of these grooming gang cases reported in the UK, Quilliam has conducted its own research into this growing epidemic to determine whether this was a case of one-sided news coverage or whether South Asian-ethnicity individuals were indeed over-represented in this specific crime profile.

    Both authors, CEO Haras Rafiq and Researcher Muna Adil, are of British Pakistani heritage and, in light of recent events, deemed it necessary for a strong voice from within the community to add a balanced and evidence-based view to the discussion surrounding grooming gangs […]

    The report found that 84% of ‘grooming gang’ offenders were (South) Asian, while they only make up 7% of total UK population and that the majority of these offenders are of Pakistani origin with Muslim heritage.

    The idea that you’re pushing, that the victims aren’t overwhelmingly British girls and that the perpetrators aren’t mainly Paki (and Bangladeshi) muslims, is top level nonsense. You demean yourself with such drivel.

  90. Being opposed to multiculturalism is not racist. Believing that other races are inferior is racist. Repeatedly using racial epithets is racist.

  91. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/11/84-per-cent-of-grooming-gangs-are-asians-we-dont-know-if-that-figure-is-right

    The report faced fierce criticism from academic researchers. Ella Cockbain, a lecturer in security and crime science, is an expert on child sexual exploitation. She said it “is a case study in bad science: riddled with errors, inconsistencies, a glaring lack of transparency, sweeping claims and gross generalisations unfounded its own ‘data’”.

    Nazir Afzal is the Crown Prosecution Service’s former lead on child sexual abuse and the prosecutor most responsible for bringing down grooming gangs. The media, he observes, pounce on cases involving Asians, but often ignore those involving white perpetrators.

    “Grooming gang” is not a legal category. Group-based child sexual exploitation (CSE) falls under a range of offences, from rape to conspiracy to incite prostitution. In only some cases, often when non-whites are involved, is ethnicity recorded. All this makes it difficult to ascertain the facts and behoves us to be cautious.

    Using “extensive data mining methods”, Quilliam researchers found 58 cases between 2005 and 2017, leading to 264 convictions for “group-based CSE involving grooming tactics”. There is no information as to where the data comes from, how it was selected or how ethnicity identified. Of the 264, 222 were Asian, hence the figure of 84% of grooming gang offenders being Asian. Just 18 were white.

  92. “that the victims aren’t overwhelmingly British girls”

    The majority of victims are white. That is the facts. At no point have I suggested otherwise.

  93. “that the perpetrators aren’t mainly Paki (and Bangladeshi) muslims, is top level nonsense”

    And if you’re going to be a racist cunt as well then I’m going to call you one as well.

  94. Brexi,

    Pete, Allan and Harri have all self identified as ‘racist’ Are you suggesting that they are lefties?

  95. Who said anything about “inferior”? Your word, leftist, not mine. I would merely say “different”. Different strengths and weaknesses. Eg, the caucasian mindset which built Europe is entirely different to the mindset of Africa. Look at SA, the wealthiest geological land in the world, yet it had nothing at all before we colonised it, because its indigenous inhabitants lacked either the will or the intelligence to mine it. All the first-world infrastructure that one sees in Africa was put there by Europeans, and now that decolonisation is in progress we see those countries naturally regressing back to tribalism and barbarism. That doesn’t make Africans inferior or less human; it simply makes them very different from us.

  96. If you believe that Africans are, by nature, less intelligent than Europeans then yes you are a racist. Because suggesting that they are less intelligent is by definition saying they are inferior.

  97. Seamus, on January 14th, 2019 at 9:58 PM Said:

    “It has been shown that the victims of this campaign are overwhelmingly white and the perpetrators are overwhelmingly Pakistani muslim.”

    It hasn’t. It has been alleged, without reason or foundation, by racist pond life like yourself.

    The actual numbers don’t back up your beliefs so, like a good little fanatic, you decide the numbers must be wrong, not the belief.

    Seamus – you got your “actual” numbers from…….

    Seamus, on January 14th, 2019 at 7:56 PM Said:

    A report by the Children’s Commissioner for England found that 36% of perpetrators of gang or group related sexual violence were white, 27% were asian, and 16% were of an undisclosed ethnicity.

    which was written by…….

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3095515/Treasury-signed-disgraceful-134k-pay-child-protection-boss-failed-speak-abuse-Pakistani-gangs-rehired-consultant-24-hours-1k-DAY.html

    Treasury signed off ‘disgraceful’ £134k pay-off for child protection boss who failed to speak out about abuse by Pakistani gangs and was rehired as a consultant within 24 hours on £1k a DAY

    which means that your numbers are of no value.

    I implore everybody to attempt to read the report that Seamus uses to make his case, and here is a 41-page version of it:

    https://dera.ioe.ac.uk/23810/7/If%20its%20not%20better%20its%20not%20the%20end_web%20copy.pdf

    I provided a link to the text of an investigative report into the rape campaign and its cover-up……

    https://archive.org/stream/EasyMeatIslam/easy%20meat%20islam_djvu.txt

    Both are painful reading though in different ways so, for those who are concerned about how such a campaign of rape can be maintained against British girls, both documents should be read. Those who are not concerned can simply omit the link immediately above

  98. Seamus, on January 14th, 2019 at 10:24 PM Said:

    If you believe that Africans are, by nature, less intelligent than Europeans then yes you are a racist. Because suggesting that they are less intelligent is by definition saying they are inferior.

    Seamus – do you believe that Africans are as intelligent as Europeans? If so, provide some evidence – history and foundation of law, arts, science etc from Africa. For example, if I said that ancient Greeks were accomplished people, I can provide a lot of evidence to make my case. You should be able to do likewise for Africans.

  99. Well, Seamus, I’ve already said that I regard the word “racist” as a nonsense word, so I’m not at all bothered to be labelled by your nonsense-word. Go right ahead. It bothers me as much as being called an anti-unicornist.

  100. If I suggest that the dog is more intelligent than the earthworm, perhaps you can invent another daft word for that, “animalist” or “cellular lifeform-ist”?

  101. “which means that your numbers are of no value.”

    Yip – per Allan’s positions we can disregard the report from the Children’s Commissioner because one of the authors was a (((Jew))).

    ” do you believe that Africans are as intelligent as Europeans?”

    Yes. The evidence is that almost all differences between Africans and Europeans can be explained through social differences. Once one accounts for poverty, quality of education etc… the differences melt away. A middle class black man with a good education will have a similar IQ to a middle class white man with a good education.

    ” If so, provide some evidence – history and foundation of law, arts, science etc from Africa.”

    Pyramids kind of stand the test of time.

  102. …But of course, to the leftist, words mean what they want them to mean. Case in point, “Trump is a Nazi”. Adolf Hitler exterminated Jews. Donald Trump moves the US Embassy to Jerusalem. Not QUITE the same thing, some would say….

  103. Which was written by…….

    Except of course she was one fifth of the writers?

    Do the other four not count?

    Do you believe that Africans are as intelligent as Europeans?

    I believe that these are much more accomplished and have a much higher level of educational attainment than anyone on ATW, Euros or American, including yourself Allan.

    https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/african_american_astronauts_fs.pdf

    Brexi, please see my 10.18.

  104. “If I suggest that the dog is more intelligent than the earthworm, perhaps you can invent another daft word for that, “animalist” or “cellular lifeform-ist”?”

    Nope because that is demonstrably provable, and isn’t based on racist tropes.

  105. Brexit – you are a ‘DIFFERENTIST’. Of course, it’s a nonsense word but the very idea that Africans are different is just unacceptable

    https://www.iol.co.za/news/africa/3-killed-after-building-collapses-in-nairobi-15300703

    Nairobi – At least three people were killed after a five-storey building collapsed in the Kenyan capital Nairobi in the early hours of Sunday, officials said.

    It was not immediately clear what caused the collapse but the authorities say 30 000 to 40 000 buildings built without approval in the capital are at risk, and dozens have died in similar disasters in recent years.

    No earthquake, no planes, no controlled demolition – African buildings collapse differently

  106. Yeah because European and American buildings never have structural flaws.

  107. ” If so, provide some evidence – history and foundation of law, arts, science etc from Africa.”

    Pyramids kind of stand the test of time.

    Completely ignored. The Alhambra is another pretty spectacular piece of architecture and engineering.

  108. ” If so, provide some evidence – history and foundation of law, arts, science etc from Africa.”

    Pyramids kind of stand the test of time.

    Wakandans didn’t build pyramids, and those pyramids couldn’t be built today – but they built the item at 10.40pm, and that didn’t withstand the test of time. Now you’re embarrassing yourself so why not present something like this……..

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greece

    Classical Greek culture, especially philosophy, had a powerful influence on ancient Rome, which carried a version of it to many parts of the Mediterranean Basin and Europe. For this reason, Classical Greece is generally considered to be the seminal culture which provided the foundation of modern Western culture and is considered the cradle of Western civilization.

    I believe that these are much more accomplished and have a much higher level of educational attainment than anyone on ATW, Euros or American, including yourself Allan.

    You’re wrong, and I can prove it. The only one which has a higher qualification than I do is…..

    and doctorate of philosophy in aerospace engineering from the University
    of Maryland in 1994 and 2000, respectively.

    All the rest have Masters so, too bad. Out of how many millions of blacks in the US who get to play with the white man’s magic – and you’ve found one. Kudos.

    I believe that others at ATW have qualifications equal to those in your link.

  109. Apologies to Pete M for the derailment of topic, perhaps down to me in part. Back on, yep it’s almost (!!) definitely the so-called “religion of peace” at work here, that violent political ideology disguised as a world religion.

  110. per Allan’s positions we can disregard the report from the Children’s Commissioner because one of the authors was a (((Jew))).

    Ah yes – it was nothing to do with covering up the rapes, but the fact of Berelowitz being a jew which, I suppose, is to be expected. Your numbers are still shit.

    Seamus, on January 14th, 2019 at 10:41 PM Said:

    Yeah because European and American buildings never have structural flaws.

    You got me – here’s a fatal bridge collapse in Florida…..

    https://bbs.thegoyimknow.to/uploads/default/original/4X/d/b/7/db75e60ca98935e0c2a9255a3b6999bb22f545ba.jpeg

  111. The Alhambra is another pretty spectacular piece of architecture and engineering.

    Who built that?

    I believe that others at ATW have qualifications equal to those in your link

    That’s why I said

    I believe that these are much more accomplished and have a much higher level of educational attainment

    The only one which has a higher qualification than I do is…..

    Pedantic rubbish.

    Many of the degrees, such as medicine, would be seen of higher value than an engineering degree at either undergrad or masters level.

  112. Allan

    No earthquake, no planes, no controlled demolition – African buildings collapse differently

    Yeah. Structures never collapse in the west.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponte_Morandi
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_International_University_pedestrian_bridge_collapse
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nipigon_River_Bridge

  113. Allan

    Wakandans didn’t build pyramids, and those pyramids couldn’t be built today

    Why not? Appart from cost?

  114. Completely ignored. The Alhambra is another pretty spectacular piece of architecture and engineering.

    Completely ignored? Are you in some kind of time-warp?

    OK – are you suggesting that negroids built Alhambra?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alhambra

    The Alhambra (/ælˈhæmbrə/; Spanish: [aˈlambɾa]; Arabic: الْحَمْرَاء‎ [ʔælħæmˈɾˠɑːʔ], Al-Ḥamrāʾ, lit. “The Red One”) is a palace and fortress complex located in Granada, Andalusia, Spain. It was originally constructed as a small fortress in AD 889 on the remains of Roman fortifications, and then largely ignored until its ruins were renovated and rebuilt in the mid-13th century by the Nasrid emir Mohammed ben Al-Ahmar of the Emirate of Granada, who built its current palace and walls. It was converted into a royal palace in 1333 by Yusuf I, Sultan of Granada.[

    Nope – those weren’t negroids. Arabs had developped their own stuff and even had conceived of sail and the wheel, both of which were beyond negroid abilities.

  115. Yeah, come ON, Allan, what is wrong with you mate? Didn’t you know that everything we know about engineering, logistics, mathematics and space exploration was all stolen from the African lands we once colonised? And that they deliberately kept all their knowledge hidden from us when we colonised, so that we wouldn’t plagiarise it? We were all living in stone caves before the explorers discoved African architecture, and then we stole all that expertise and now we claim it for ourselves!

  116. Seamus,

    If you believe that Africans are, by nature, less intelligent than Europeans then yes you are a racist. Because suggesting that they are less intelligent is by definition saying they are inferior.

    I have to partly disagree with you here Seamus. Different races can have genetic differences in IQ. But it’s also about environment and education. The nature/nurture debate is still going strong. Allan just exagerates these differences to further his agenda. Remember, he thinks whites and blacks are a different species.

  117. OK – are you suggesting that negroids built Alhambra?

    No, I’m suggesting it was designed and built by Africans as per your:

    If so, provide some evidence – history and foundation of law, arts, science etc from Africa

    Where do you think the Moors came from?

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Alhambra-fortress-Granada-Spain

    I’m also suggesting that degrees of similar levels have different values.

    Brexi, you’re turning into Harri and making things up for you to argue against.

  118. Dave Alton, on January 14th, 2019 at 11:08 PM Said:

    Allan

    Wakandans didn’t build pyramids, and those pyramids couldn’t be built today

    Why not? Appart from cost?

    Dave – in order for pyramids to be built, it would have to be established how they were built and then how to build them.

  119. If so, provide some evidence – history and foundation of law, arts, science etc from Africa

    Paul – for you, I shall be specific.

    If so, provide some evidence – history and foundation of law, arts, science etc from sub-Saharan Africa.

  120. Paul – for you, I shall be specific

    Redefining parameters now that your original premise has been proved incorrect? Okay.

    Where I come from that’s called moving the goalposts.

    I’m also suggesting that degrees of similar levels have different values.

    You disagree?

  121. Pedantic rubbish.

    Many of the degrees, such as medicine, would be seen of higher value than an engineering degree at either undergrad or masters level.

    Possibly – but not in programs for the National Aeronautical and Space Administration to which you linked. You fail to understand that NASA operates primarily in the applied science and engineering domains and not medical, although there may be certain experiments conducted in low-gravity. Your argument that a Masters in a medical discipline is of higher value than a Masters in an engineering discipline within NASA is makes no sense.

  122. Allan

    Dave – in order for pyramids to be built, it would have to be established how they were built and then how to build them.

    They don’t need to understand how the pyramids were originally built to rebuild them now Allan. That’s nonsense.

    Also, we pretty much know how the pyramids were built. They used ramps round the outside.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_pyramid_construction_techniques

  123. “Police have arrested 55 men ”

    Wow, West Yorkshire Police are on fire. 30 years, to arrest a body who is alleged to have had sex with a minor – a statutory offence.

    Jeremy Forrest was banged up for only one girl in a consensual relationship.

    But then, there is the contribution the immigrants have clearly brought to our society. Home office statistics inform us that it costs £35,000 per year to accommodate a prisoner in one of HM prisons. Suppose each of these guys only gets a one year sentence.

    That’s £1,925,000 we’ve benefited as a society.

    Then there are the Bristol gang rapists – another 13 x £35,000 each

    And the Rotherham rapists and the Oxford rapists, and the Manchester rapists.

    This is obviously one hell of a economic stimulus we’ve imported here.

    Not to mention, the twenty or so that have been arrested tried and found guilty of defrauding the Grenfell tower disaster fund.

    And now, the Royal Navy is running a water taxi service across the Channel.

  124. Redefining parameters now that your original premise has been proved incorrect? Okay.

    Paul – you knew that the discussion was about negroids, didn’t you?

    Paul McMahon, on January 14th, 2019 at 10:39 PM Said:

    https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/african_american_astronauts_fs.pdf

    So, as is seen from your link to african-american astronauts i.e. blacks i.e. negroids, you knew that we weren’t discussing arabs – and you knew that. So why the attempted sophistry?

  125. Allan

    There are black people with high IQs, what’s your point?

  126. Nothing but redefinition and pedantric sophistry when proven incorrect.

    Paul – you knew that the discussion was about negroids, didn’t you?

    It wasn’t about Africa as you stated?

    So, as is seen from your link to African -american astronauts

    That NASA operates primarily in the applied science

    That’s why most of them have some level of science degree.

    I’m afraid you’ll not be bullshitting your way out of this but please, keep trying. Me? I’m away to bed.

  127. Night night all:

    https://www.amazon.com/Story-Moors-Spain-Stanley-Lane-Poole/dp/0933121199