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Today’s Speech

By Patrick Van Roy On January 19th, 2019

100 Responses to “Today’s Speech”

  1. He’s backing down, he’s crumbling…. just like the non existant wall 😉

  2. never……. damn the torpedoes!

  3. I watched it all live. I thought it a good speech, getting down to specifics on how the money would be spent. Alas, I don’t think that the party opposite is bargaining in good faith.

  4. no they’re not and speeches like this will continue to highlight their behavior more and more.

  5. I read a poll on Fox, an NPR poll, that Trump has a 50% approval among Latinos. The Dems are now put in a position where they will have to oppose DACA and TPS latinos to keep up the front against Trump.

    Trump needs to keep pounding away the fact that his policies benefit Latinos and that the Dems are AWOL on negotiating.

  6. he offered nothing new and he has proven he only acts in bad faith so why would any one bother responding. If you give him everything he asks for he will give you nothing

    All full of sound and fury and signifying nothing

  7. Trump is caving in, and Ann Coulter walloped him. His numbers are falling. Majorities do not want his wall and think he is overall doing a poor job. Soon he will be begging Nancy Pelosi for a way out of the hole he dug for himself. She will make sure Trump and the Republicans take a big hit for their absurd and harmful position. Whether it is federal employees or helpless immigrants, they just don’t care; and, that is not the American way. People should be treated humanely and not just as hostages in a political showdown or refuse to use in riling up a base.

    Charles

    As I said on a previous post, the time for bargaining or negotiating was before going public with an ultimatum. Meeting, consulting, exchanging ideas, tossing numbers about should have been done before, and keep at it until agreement was reached. Both sides want a good border but Trump has insisted on a ‘wall’ and still does not move off that demand. Trump behind closed doors should have said we both want a good border, now tell me what you have in mind and take it from there. Trump has no government experience and it is showing. Government is not business. If you know business, you have to learn government. But Trump is not a learner.

  8. But NY’er, the Dem leadership won’t even physically come to the negotiating table! Trump can’t negotiate with himself, FFS. I think Pelosi is now going to have DACA and TPS latinos on her ass, and rightly so.

  9. Trump also suggested weekly, bipartisan meetings at the WH. A good move to middle ground I think.

  10. Charles

    Two years of nonstop insults and lies , now Trump Wants to negotiate?

    Well he promise not to have ambush interviews when doing so?

    Will someone teach him how to negotiate, how to do a deal first?

  11. Charles

    Why did Trump not meet with the Democrats before going public as I’ve suggested? He does not know, or refuses, to govern well. LBJ got plenty of legislation passed. It can be done if the President knows how to do it. I think you listen too much to Fox and don’t want to face the fact that by every measure Trump is bad at his job.

  12. The man leads a movement of imbeciles

    https://nypost.com/2019/01/19/trump-campaign-says-it-will-send-faux-bricks-to-dem-leaders/

  13. Will someone teach him how to negotiate, how to do a deal first?

    Let’s swap.

    You can have our supreme leader May.

    And we will have Trump.

  14. Yes, America takes our dodgy dancer and we have their clumsy clown. Good swop !

  15. Colm

    I agree, but this is where us plebs are..

    I will swap you our chimpanzee for your equally useless chimpanzee.

    We really do all deserve better.

  16. Trump’s Business skills

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yJ7XfB1ydA

  17. Dave

    If I had a billion dollars.

    I wouldn’t care if I had bad business skills.

  18. New Yorker, Phantom,

    You’re not taking the speech at face value, but are looking at past sins. The president is extending an olive branch, but you two won’t even accept it!

    Why did Trump not meet with the Democrats before going public as I’ve suggested?

    NY’er, they probably won’t meet with him. In the speech he said he took suggestions from the rank and file Dems, and promises to meet with them weekly. What do you want the man to do, shit vanilla ice cream and piss you A COLD BEER?

  19. You’re not taking the speech at face value, but are looking at past sins. The president is extending an olive branch, but you two won’t even accept it!

    Trump derangement syndrome runs deep.

    Deep to the point of everything else goes straight out of the window.

  20. Charles

    Trump could offer a cure for cancer, and the self righteous modern day puritan liberal progressives would still refuse to meet with him.

    Liberalism, the plague of the 21st century.

  21. Harri

    I know Trump rubs a lot of people on the left the wrong way, but he has put an offer on the table to end the shutdown and build the wall. Like you, I wonder if the other side will come to the bargaining table with anything but a flat “no”.

    I wonder if they really watched the speech at all.

  22. Charles

    Lefties value righteous points above all else.

    Nothing, or no one else matters.

    What we are actually witnessing here is, the rise, and hopefully, the fall of the modern day puritans.

  23. You’re not taking the speech at face value, but are looking at past sins. The president is extending an olive branch, but you two won’t even accept it!

    Charles

    When Schumer and Pelosi met with him recently, he sprang a surprise visit by the press on them

    His word and his judgment Can never be trusted on any matter

    They should meet with him, provided that the following is agreed to in Writing beforehand

    a) no ambush press conferences
    b) no secret taping
    c) no tweeting about the negotiations afterward

    Governing is serious business.

    These rules would not be required from anyone else, but they should be required here, based on Trumps erratic conduct, which no one should put up with anymore

  24. Governing is serious business.

    Can someone, please explain that to our “leaders”?

  25. Phantom, I think he could do A, and B. C would be a tough one.

    I like Scalise’s suggestion that the principles should not negotiate, but let underlings do it.

    His word and his judgment Can never be trusted on any matter

    If you truly believe that, then we’re at a standstill until 2020, or hopefully for me, until 2024!

  26. Charles you’re doing a yeoman’s job, allow me to add an assist.

    I have to laugh reading the comments above. Over a year ago a deal that gave DACA everything they wanted and paid for the wall passed the House and was killed by the Dems in the Senate.

    We have 20 million illegals in the country and 10s of thousands sneaking in every month.

    Last year we had 61,000 people die of illegal drug overdoses, the year before it was 74,ooo the forced carrying of NARCAN has actually lowered the number. Think about that 61,000, 74,000 these are deaths a year.

    The Vietnam War began November 1, 1955. ended April 30, 1975 it lasted 20 years and we lost 58,193 Americans.

    We have more people dying in a year than we did in 20yrs of War, but it’s a made up Crises….. Screw all of you and screw the dems. You don’t care a single bit about the dead and dying in this country as long as you think you can screw Donald Trump.

    But it’s a made up crises……..

    There are 3 more caravans marching across Mexico right now to join the 1000s already flooding Tijuana.

    Idiots above say oh he’s done nothing but lie and be uncivil for 2yrs…. no mention of the fact that since before he was elected Obama and Hillary have used the FBI, DOJ, CIA, and NSA to attack him, bug him, and try to frame him for imaginary crimes.

    Democrats want to turn the US into a Socialist Paradise where everyone rides their unicorns from the free college to the free clinic and then sit at home with their free guaranteed money. AND THAT IS WHAT EVERYONE ON THIS SITE FROM NY SUPPORTS.

    Deny it all you want, you support the people pushing it.

    Trump won because he carried the Union Vote in States like Pa and OH. He carried that vote because of his stand on immigration.

  27. Charles you’re doing a yeoman’s job, allow me to add an assist.

    Thank you Patrick. So many liberals here, and so little time! 🙂

    You don’t care a single bit about the dead and dying in this country as long as you think you can screw Donald Trump.

    That’s it in a nutshell.

  28. charlesintexas

    If you don’t mind me asking Charles, do you believe that a border wall will have any real effect on the flow of drugs into the United States?

  29. Dave.

    It would take a country far more in tune with reality, than let’s say Mighty America, to admit the “war on drugs” has been lost, let’s say Portugal for example.

  30. Phantom.

    What has Portugal done so right on illegal drugs, than America has done, so wrong?

  31. The American War on drugs is a joke just like it’s war on poverty programs….. government can’t fix people.

  32. Dave, as the president said, and I agree, the wall will force more people through the legal ports of entry, where more drugs can be interdicted. He proposed 800 million to beef up the legal ports of entry, which need all the help they can get, to mitigate the flow of drugs.

    Many people don’t know that the border patrol has check points 150 mile inside the US on the interstate highways that you are forced to stop at. I myself saw a drug bust at the truck just in front of me. They had a whole truckload of drugs and the dogs sniffing for it went wild.

  33. Charles – the legal points on entry are we here the drugs are coming in. Trump doesn’t merely rile liberals, he riles moderates, thinking conservatives and people burdened by actual thought.

  34. charlesintexas,

    Dave, as the president said, and I agree, the wall will force more people through the legal ports of entry, where more drugs can be interdicted.

    you seem to be under the impression that drugs are being smuggled across the border Charles. This is not the case. Most drugs smuggled into the US already go through legal port of entry.

    https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/01/16/fact-check-mike-pence-donald-trump-drugs-crossing-southern-border-wall/2591279002/

    Despite the regular, hysterical accusations levelled at me as being some sort of Trump hating leftie, (that’s not true by the way), I’m just trying to honestly point out the massive holes in his claims, that the wall would somehow have any significant effect on the flow of drugs into the US.
    It is a demonstrably provable fact, that countries with better security, shorter land borders and coastlines than the US, still have massive problems with drugs be smuggled in.

  35. You don’t care a single bit about the dead and dying in this country as long as you think you can screw Donald Trump.

    That’s a flat out lie

    You want to spit in the face of Jesus on a Sunday morning by lying like that?

    I Take a much harder stance on illegal immigration than anyone else here. I have proposed stronger measures to deal with it that the fake ATW conservatives have never agreed with

    I propose a complete rethink on the War on Drugs, yes . I See a country Drugged up on prescription and illegal drugs, and I think that we need to redo many things. A wall won’t fix any of this

    I condemn both parties, I think that I am the only one who has done this here

    You have one party that openly supports illegal immigration now , and you have another party that Blindly follows every action of a corrupt imbecile. That is where we are.

    You blind unthinking followers are every bit as much a part of this problem as Pelosi is

    Charles, shame on you for agreeing with that first above comment. You are better than that.

    I

  36. Dave

    The Trumpers are immune to all evidence. This point has been raised before.Repeatedly

    They are spending their days and nights licking Trumps feet on the web

    That’s all they ever want to do

  37. Dave, you missed the point where I said that 800 million will beef up the legal ports of entry. I am under no illusion that the flow of drugs can be stopped. I used the word “mitigated” for a reason.

    But unlike you all, I have seen with my own eyes the Border Patrol at work interdicting drugs. It works, but there is more work to be done.

  38. harles, shame on you for agreeing with that first above comment. You are better than that.

    When I agreed with that I was thinking more of Pelosi and Shuemer, and was not casting aspersions on anyone here.

  39. charlesintexas,

    Dave, you missed the point where I said that 800 million will beef up the legal ports of entry. I am under no illusion that the flow of drugs can be stopped. I used the word “mitigated” for a reason.

    I haven’t missed your point at all Charles. You appear to have missed mine.
    My point is that the wall will make very little difference to the flow of drugs into the US. This is demonstrably provable. I agree with you, beefing up border security and other common points of access weill have much more of an effect on the flow of drugs than building a wall. Do you not agree?

    But unlike you all, I have seen with my own eyes the Border Patrol at work interdicting drugs. It works, but there is more work to be done.

    No argument from me on that point Charles.

  40. Its not a supply problem

    It’s a demand problem

    We have a weak, pathetic, overprescribed, drugged up population thinks that a pill is the problem for every ache and pain

    We live in a country where powerful drugs are advertised on television

    Legal and illegal drugs and the demand for both is the problem

  41. I’ve never purchased any illegal drug

    Can all the local Trump supporters say the same thing

  42. I agree with you, beefing up border security and other common points of access weill have much more of an effect on the flow of drugs than building a wall. Do you not agree?

    There’s no doubt in my mind that drug smuggler’s are using the vast open spaces of the Southwest to bring in drugs, as well as through the legal ports of entry. Six of one half a dozen of another. We can argue how much is coming through where til the cows come home. The President says we need a wall at strategic points and I agree.

    One thing I will say for you Dave is that you’re an honest debater who tries to stick to the facts, without all the hyperbole. I appreciate that!

  43. I’ve never purchased any illegal drug

    Can all the local Trump supporters say the same thing

    I’ve never purchased or used any illegal substance, never even tried weed or cigarettes either.

  44. Good for you Charles

    Maybe three times. I shared a joint but I hated the coughing that smoking it led to.

    Drug use was not unknown in the military then and it was common in college but I stayed far away from it

    I’ve said no to prescription opioid painkillers too, in the context of dental work, etc

  45. Charles

    One thing I will say for you Dave is that you’re an honest debater who tries to stick to the facts, without all the hyperbole. I appreciate that!

    Thanks Charles, and for what It’s worth I think you’re an honest guy as well.

    I think the wall will definitely have an effect on reducing the amount of illegal immigration into the US. How much of an effect, is obviously open to debate.
    My stance on the wall isn’t an anti Trump one, it’s a pro American one. I just question how much of a benefit the wall will bring, balanced against how much it’s going to cost.

  46. My Catholic primary school did a very good job telling us how bad tobacco was.

    I listened to them

    We convinced our parents to stop smoking, as a result of that highly positive education cwmpaign

  47. And good for you Phantom! I agree with you that it’s more of a using problem than a supply problem. But as Patrick said, human nature is much harder to deal with than interdicting the drugs. Also plenty of meth is cooked right here in the USA.

    I just question how much of a benefit the wall will bring, balanced against how much it’s going to cost.

    Dave, I think your line of questioning the wall is a legitimate one. I wish the Democrat leadership would do as you do and analyze the situation, and not demigoge (sp?) it.

  48. My Catholic primary school did a very good job telling us how bad tobacco was.

    I listened to them

    Phantom, mine did as well. In fact, I was picked to go to an anti-drug and anti-smoking seminar and bring back the info for the school. Pretty cool for a 7th grader!
    It really impressed me at a young age and may have led me to be a pharmacist. Now if they had only warned me about alcohol as well!

  49. So now you are up to 20million illegal immigrants, it’s funny how that number just magically increases every time right world needs a bigger boogey man

    Turnip offered nothing except to give him exactly what HE wanted, it’s little wonder why the Democrats ignore him

  50. it was at 10 million before Obama opened the borders it’s well over 20 million…….

  51. “it was at 10 million before Obama opened the borders it’s well over 20 million…….”

    Nonsense. The number of people crossing the border illegally dropped dramatically under Obama.

  52. Nonsense. The number of people crossing the border illegally dropped dramatically under Obama.

    I think that may be true. The economy was so bad under Obama they stopped coming!

  53. “The economy was so bad under Obama they stopped coming!”

    🙂

    Except when the economy ticked up again (thanks to Obama for fixing the Republican’s mess) the number of people crossing the border continued to drop.

  54. Charles

    I expect that from the angry and uneducated here but not from you

    We had a near collapse of the economy in 2008, It reached its low point in 2009

    After that, the economy showed real growth every year after that.

    Over the same period, there was some economic growth in Mexico

    Would you like me to document this yet again?

  55. So we have drug smuggling experts that have never smuggled drugs and use experts of people that never used an illegal drug in their lives…. not even cigarettes…. roflmao

    Last week SmithKline and Merc were just named in a multibillion dollar Lawsuit over opioids.

    My brother inlaw died the week before christmas from pancreatic cancer the last 6mths of his life he had to fight with the insurance (obamacare) to get his pain meds and would spend days in agony until he passed out from the pain….. while 300 people a day died of overdoses on the street, he couldn’t get the meds he needed to die in peace.

    Over 90% of the Illegal Drugs come across our Southern Border and they don’t come through the ports of entry….. gee I’m going to bring this big bag of heroin across the border where all the guards and drug dogs are when I can go ten miles down the road and just walk across… maroons.

    Build the wall, give every illegal this side of the wall amnesty and then shoot anyone who approaches the border anywhere except at the gates.

    Never bought street drugs, but I had a bad morphine addiction which I put myself in treatment for 35yrs ago haven’t touched a narcotic since even with two diseases that give me access to all the pain meds I want. It’s called an educated choice with decades of discipline and rituals.

    I see people suffering on a regular basis they are dying of mexican white heroin.

  56. Phantoms going to weave his fantasy about the Obama era leaving out the greatest number of home foreclosures and largest souplines in American history again….

    If you choose to do so start your own post.

  57. “So we have drug smuggling experts that have never smuggled drugs and use experts of people that never used an illegal drug in their lives…. not even cigarettes…. roflmao”

    The experts in drug smuggling, ie the Drug Enforcement Agency, have said that the overwhelming majority of the drugs coming through the southern border are brought through legal points of entry.

    So not only do the DEA say you are full of shit … Trump’s own DEA says you are full of shit.

  58. “I see people suffering on a regular basis they are dying of mexican white heroin.”

    They aren’t actually. They are dying of Chinese fentanyl.

  59. “Phantoms going to weave his fantasy about the Obama era leaving out the greatest number of home foreclosures and largest souplines in American history again….”

    Resulting from a recession that started with a Republican in the White House.

  60. Anyone with an ability to type and Google can easily find that was Seamus says about illegal drug entry into the US is true.

  61. Morphine is an opioid, exceptionally similar to heroin and oxycontin

    You became addicted to a prescription opioid.

    A very short time ago, I said that Prescription opioids and other hard prescription drugs were part of the overall problem, You were extremely dismissive of that point – Despite your own experience

    You are very confused

    I restate – America is a very drugged up country. Prescription drugs, Especially over the past 25 years, are a big part of the problem.

  62. They aren’t actually. They are dying of Chinese fentanyl.

    When was the last time you spent an hour or two in a rehab?

    Your information on the DEA is wrong.

    And the recession started when the democrats took over congress.

  63. The principle reasons for the drop in illegal immigration is not due to law enforcement. Similar to the issue with drugs there is only so much that law enforcement (including a wall) could do to stem the flow.

    If people see the benefit of getting past it then they will get past it.

    The major reason for the decline in illegal immigration is that more people want to stay in Mexico.

    In 2008, the year before Obama’s presidency started, the number of people apprehended at the southern border of the United States was 723,825. The total in 2016 (the last year of Obama’s presidency) was 415,816. In 2017 (the first of Trump’s) it was 310,531. The major change has been the number of Mexicans crossing the border, from 1,636,883 apprehended in 2000 to 130,454 apprehended last year.

    Firstly the collapse in the construction industry (which hired many illegals) caused jobs for undocumented Mexicans to dry up. The Mexican economy also recovered very well from the economic crash in 2008 and was back to pre-recession levels by 2010. The US didn’t recover to that level until late 2011, while the UK, for example, didn’t do it until 2014. A decline in Mexican birth rates also reduced the number of younger Mexicans looking for work (in the 1960s the birth rate in Mexico was 7.3 per adult woman. By 2009 that had dropped to 2.4). The main age group for immigrants (those under the age of 40) is actually shrinking as a proportion of the Mexican population.

    Grow the Mexican economy and Mexicans will stop trying to cross into the United States. Grow the Salvadorian economy and Salvadorians will stop trying to cross into the United States. Grow the Guatemalan economy and Guatemalans will stop trying to cross into the United States.

    The wall won’t stop illegal immigration. Things like NAFTA will. Improving CAFTA will.

  64. Anyone with access to ATW can also see what Seamus said is true.

  65. Seamus knows more about these US issues than Patrick ever will

    Not even close

    Impressive, sustained comment

  66. Seamus is smoking crack the crack of false numbers.

  67. “Your information on the DEA is wrong.”

    It’s not. The DEA have stated, repeatedly, that the drugs are coming through legal points of entry.

    From the 2018 National Drug Threat Assessment:

    Mexican TCOs control the movement of heroin that enters the United States across the SWB, until it reaches its destination in cities all over the United States. The majority of the flow is through POVs entering the United States at legal ports of entry, followed by tractor-trailers, where the heroin is co-mingled with legal goods.

  68. It’s not our job to do anything for mexico or her people it’s mexico’s job.

    Fine lets get ready for a day of good debate because I can punch holes in everyone of any of arguments, and where besides myself seamus is the best researcher on this site his views of even knowing where to look for the truth about the US is severely hampered by not living here.

    It’s like me with Ireland I can partake my views but I’m an American living in America that fact alone blocks a ton of nuances from the picture.

  69. Very recently you said that prescription drugs Was no big part of Americas drug problem

    Now today you mention that you were addicted to prescription drugs

    I applaud the fact that you were able to beat the addiction, But all your comment on drugs here now comes into question

    Your Personal experience goes completely against what you have said to us here — As it goes against the analysis of the medical community

  70. “It’s not our job to do anything for mexico or her people it’s mexico’s job.”

    No one said it was your job. However if you want to stop illegal immigration from central American countries the only actual way you will do that is by making people want to stay in their central American country. The only way you will do that is by improving the economy and living standards of those countries.

    It isn’t your job. But if you don’t do it then immigrants will continue to come.

    “his views of even knowing where to look for the truth about the US is severely hampered by not living here.”

    I’m pretty sure though that when it comes to discussing drug smuggling that the best source is almost always going to be the DEA. Is there a better source than the DEA when it comes to drug smuggling?

  71. The Trumper bloggers know more about Smuggling than the DEA

    They know everything, about everything!

  72. I don’t care what you post the facts are the facts.

    over 300 people a day are dying from overdose of ILLEGAL drugs primarily heroin whether it’s laced with fentanyl or not, over 60,000 last year.

    200 Billion dollars of illegal drugs are sold in the US in a year half of the worlds 400 billion.

    All those drugs are not coming through Legal ports of entry.

  73. “All those drugs are not coming through Legal ports of entry.”

    The DEA disagree. I’m going to trust them on the subject more than I trust you.

  74. Fine prove me wrong build the Wall and if the number of deaths don’t decrease I’ll admit I’m wrong.

  75. Don’t need to build a wall to prove you wrong. The proof is already there.

  76. Drugs are compact high value items

    Not that hard to smuggle into all our countries, including the UK, which is mostly one large island

    A good case can be made For a wall to control illegal crossings; the case is very weak as a pertains to stopping illegal drugs

  77. so you honestly believe that 200 Billion in drugs are coming across where the cops are stationed…… and the cops and dea are missing all these drugs they are so inept at finding them but the 1000 miles of open border with no security is where the smugglers are avoiding…..

    They base those numbers on the drugs caught at the gates by those that come through that way they have no data on the drugs that come in the unprotected areas but they know that 200 billion dollars worth are getting in….. and I’m sure them there smugglers choose to bring the bulk through where the guards are rather than where they aren’t.

  78. “and I’m sure them there smugglers choose to bring the bulk through where the guards are rather than where they aren’t.”

    Crossing the border outside of points of entry draws attention. Do it regularly enough (and you would have to do it regularly enough) and you will draw that attention. Law enforcement apprehend the vehicle and strip it bare.

    Go through a legal point of entry and stash the drugs in such a manner as to not be detectable easily and you get through.

  79. It just stands to reason that drugs, and people, are coming through the desert. And that guns are flowing south the same way.

  80. Very many large trailers cross that border every day, by truck and rail

    If you think that they’re all inspected, you’re nuts

  81. Seamus, It’s very big country down here.

  82. Seamus

    Yes. Rather than admit he’s wrong, Patrick just doubles down with his easy to disprove claims. Multiple reliable sources, that are easy to find on the internet, including the DEA, all attest to the fact that most drugs are smuggled into the US by illegal points of entry. Drug smugglers are actually more likely to be caught if they try to sneak the drugs across the ungrarded border.

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/29/trump-says-border-wall-will-stop-drugs-heres-what-a-dea-intel-report-says/

  83. “Seamus, It’s very big country down here.”

    It is but do you not think that a convoy moving $200 billion of drugs over the border wouldn’t be spotted?

  84. Seamus, I don’t think drugs are moved in big convoys, but most likely in the ubiquitous pickup. People come and go across the border, like they have done for centuries.

    One thing I disagree with Trump about is that the Rio Grande is a natural barrier. It’s not. People wade through it everyday. That’s why we have a wall in El Paso.

  85. One thing that Phantom mentioned that rigs true with me however is about the U.K.
    Drugs manage to get into the UK that is an island. You could say that the sea is a wall par excellence. Even that doesn’t stop the drugs. But it does stop people.

  86. The wall is a sideshow as respects drugs,

    You can go the route of significant decriminalization and or legalization , or you can go the route of Malaysia and Singapore , countries which execute those caught with heroin

    Not having a serious conversation about either

  87. The wall is not a side show when it comes to drugs….. As Charles says the border is huge and wide open in more places than it’s not everyday thousands of people cross undetected. Take the amount they catch and times it by 3, that’s how many are crossing undetected.

    A bag of sugar weighs 5 pounds for your comparison… that’s over two kilos for our euro friends A kilo of pure heroin is about half million dollars street value according to Narcotics Investigators.

    So a million dollars worth of heroin is no bigger than a bag of sugar, There were 303,916 border apprehensions in the southwest U.S. during fiscal 2017. Now times that number by 3 and that’s how many didn’t get caught, but it’s to much trouble to put a 5lb bag in a backpack and bring it in. A million people a year make it without running into anyone, but it’s safer to bring the drugs through where the DEA, a CBP are stationed with dogs…..

  88. Patrick

    We Brits and Paddies may be under the wicked rule of European Metricisation but most of us are still able to identify good old Imperial pounds and ounces 😉

  89. yeah but….. the metric system…..

  90. All hostility aside, and yes I know I’ve been hostile.

    Take it for what it’s worth and you decide…. now most of you consider me a wee bit off, so you will dismiss what I have to say. That’s your right to do so.

    Except 63 Million people voted for Trump. His main issue was the Wall.

    If it doesn’t get built do you think those people are going to blame him, or are they going to blame Congress?

  91. I believe a kilo of pure heroin is worth $10k or less, one of the reasons for so many over doses are that street drugs are much purer than they used to be because they are so cheap.

    If drugs by the ton are difficult to get into the US wehy are they so cheap? They are being imported 20 pounds at a time on the back of Central American Immigrants they are being imported by the ton on the backs of trucks or in belly of sea containers

  92. No ep those giant holes where there is no fence is where the tons are getting through or you also of the mind that TONS of Heroin are just being driven to the check points…?

    By the way the street value of a kilo of heroin was researched and is current and for uncut.

    Cut Heroin is 66,000 a Kilo. and you can get 1000 kilos of cut heroin from 1 kilo of pure especially if you mix in just a couple of grams of fentanyl.

  93. The people who know where it comes into the US have said where it comes in.

  94. Street heroin on average is 17-20% pure so 1 kilo of pure would only translate to 5 to 7 kilos of street grade

    Heroin is cheap and dangerous and is literally sold by the ton
    Every single illegal immigrant would have to be carrying

  95. Charles

    “NY’er, they probably won’t meet with him.” Trump should have met with them before going public. Now is too late. The Democrats have won this war: Why should they help Trump out of the hole he dug for himself? If the shoe were on the other foot, do you think Trump would help the Democrats?

    Politics is highly competitive. When you win you usually want to do as much harm to your enemy as possible. For the Democrats Trump is the enemy. They will likely extract maximum harm. Trump’s approval numbers are falling by the day, the Democrats would be foolish to throw him a lifeline.

  96. When you win you usually want to do as much harm to your enemy as possible. For the Democrats Trump is the enemy. They will likely extract maximum harm

    New Yorker, thank you for effectively saying that the Democrat leadership hates Trump more than they love their country!

  97. Charles

    The Democrats love their country and that is proven by opposing Trump. They believe wasting money on a useless wall is not in the national interest.

  98. no they don’t. they want to change our country into a socialist claptrap.

    And they lost the war by actually winning the house. NYr you say their love is proven by their opposition to trump, but if a republican said that about obama they would be called racist.

    So was the wall useless when they supported it?

    Like all Democrats and especially you people from NY who live in bubble. You don’t even know what your own leaders have said, here let me remind you. View your hypocrisy

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQJlmFqUA8w

  99. Day 31 of the Trump Shutdown!

  100. now subtract weekends and holidays it’s day 17 of the Trump Shutdown…… at 30 days he can fire everyone that’s furloughed under force redundancy….

    So Please keep your day count correct…..