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AIRBUS IS RIGHT

By Pete Moore On January 24th, 2019

Never trust the Tories

The Airbus CEO has said that the uncertainty around Brexit is “a disgrace”. Too right it is, and it’s the fault of anti-democratic Remoan MPs who have decided that democracy is not for the people. A united parliament would have had us sprung free from the EU ages ago. That’s Remain’s fault.

The interesting thing is that Airbus is serving its paymaster. It sucks deeply on the EU cash cow’s tit, trousering €64,172,543 in just the last five years. That’s quite an incentive to run defence for the EU. And then there’s the really interesting thing, which is that the British government put Airbus up to it. Airbus’s Senior UK Vice President let that slip when pushed today –

Just let that sink in. The British government is employing Airbus to brief against the British government’s strongest position in negotiations. That’s how low our enemies are.

76 Responses to “AIRBUS IS RIGHT”

  1. The British government is employing Airbus to brief against the British government’s strongest position in negotiations.

    You’re obviosly watching a different video from me. The government asked Airbus to made their findings public.

    Does this change Arbus conclusions on Brexit?

  2. Desperation from Pete to deflect the reality of what Brexit entails for the U.K.

  3. Colm

    You are so funny..

    😁

    https://goo.gl/images/qc8N9k

  4. I hit your funny bone with the truth Harri 😉

  5. It sucks deeply on the EU cash cow’s tit, trousering €64,172,543 in just the last five years

    ‘Trousering from the EU’s cash tit’ as opposed to creating and maintaining jobs in the UK.

    It’s absolutely incredible how flippant Brexiteers can be with people’s livelihoods when the narrative goes against them.

  6. Those links don’t reveal much.

    What was the 64 million euro sent to Airbus for? Was it to buy aircraft?

    One Boeing 737 alone costs about that much money.

  7. Colm, on January 24th, 2019 at 7:41 PM Said:
    Desperation from Pete to deflect the reality of what Brexit entails for the U.K.

    Were doomed…doomed I tells ya.

    All hail Emporer Juncker.

  8. Ain’t that the truth…

    LizBee
    4 hours ago

    If Airbus was handed £13 million last year, it was obviously not making enough money to keep it afloat on its own. We hear Katherine Bennett bleating that No Deal would be catastrophic. If Airbus can’t function without large hand-outs, it’s business model is clearly failing

  9. Airbus has annual revenue of about 67 billion euro

    They don’t need £13 million handouts

    Airbus and Boeing are both making a fortune.

  10. It wasn’t for aircraft. The bulk of it was under the EU’s Horizon 2020 program.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Framework_Programmes_for_Research_and_Technological_Development#Horizon_2020

    The Airbus ones include satellite research, capacity planning for disaster relief, maritime surveillance, research into reducing environmental harm by aircraft, noise pollution etc…

  11. Phantom, on January 24th, 2019 at 8:34 PM Said:
    Airbus has annual revenue of about 67 billion euro

    They don’t need £13 million handouts

    Precisely.

    Hand it back.

  12. Why don’t Airbus move to Africa?

  13. Why don’t Airbus move to Africa?

    Desperation from Pete Harri to deflect the reality of what Brexit entails for the U.K.

  14. Africa simply must be a great opportunity for Airbus.

    All those cheap labour engineers and scientists, just lounging about sitting under trees all day eyeing up 10 year old girls.

    What a waste of cheap talent.

  15. Desperation from Pete Harri to deflect the reality of what Brexit entails for the U.K.

    Project fear MK V, or VI…or something…or other.

    😁

  16. Just let that sink in. The British government is employing Airbus to brief against the British government’s strongest position in negotiations.

    Not just that. Look at what I came across today. Thanks to a poster on another blog (Acorn)

    the United Kingdom and the EU would form a single customs territory, at the specific, insistent request of the United Kingdom. We have aligned ourselves with this UK idea, which was not in our blueprint for the backstop . . .

    http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_SPEECH-19-642_en.htm

  17. Airbus employs 14,000 people in the UK including 4,000 people in plane-making activities at a number of sites in and around Belfast and has warned it could move it’s UK operations in the event of a no deal Brexit.

    Yeah? Why don’t they move to Africa?

    It’s absolutely incredible how flippant Brexiteers can be with people’s livelihoods when the narrative goes against them.

  18. Desperation from Pete Harri to deflect the reality of what Brexit entails for the U.K.

    A plastic Republican nails his plastic Republican colours to the mast..

    We “need” new masters to tell us how to live, and what to do…

    Paul

    As a proud plastic Republican, have you ever thought about the radical proposition of actually running your own life’s?

    Some people “need” leaders.

    😁

  19. Yes. The UK insisted that any backstop be UK wide, not just for Northern Ireland. The EU were originally opposed to the idea of a UK wide backstop but the UK insisted on it.

  20. Airbus employs 14,000 people in the UK including 4,000 people in plane-making activities at a number of sites in and around Belfast and has warned it could move it’s UK operations in the event of a no deal Brexit.

    “Could” move..might just a clue there.

    They are going….nowhere.

  21. Seamus, on January 24th, 2019 at 8:57 PM Said:
    Yes. The UK insisted that any backstop be UK wide, not just for N

    Oooookay, let’s see who will build that hard border.

    It won’t be Ireland, and it won’t be the rest of the UK.

    Maybe the EU army will build it?

  22. “It won’t be Ireland, and it won’t be the rest of the UK.”

    The UK and the EU will both build a hard border in the event of a no deal Brexit. They will be required to by international law.

  23. Paul, Seamus.

    Ireland don’t want a hard border, the UK don’t want a hard border.

    So who does?

    Why don’t you grow a pair and tell your EU masters to basically fuck off?

  24. In order for use in Airbus aircraft components must meet EASA standards and regulations. Part of the Brexit withdrawal agreement was an alignment between EASA and the UK’s Civil Aviation Authority. Obviously in the absence of the withdrawal agreement (a no deal Brexit) that may not happen. If that were the case then Airbus would pull production out of the UK.

  25. “Ireland don’t want a hard border, the UK don’t want a hard border.

    So who does?”

    It’s not about want. No one wants one. It is the law that you must have one.

  26. “Could” move..might just a clue there.

    Of course, it’s just Airbus and project X or something. Did you borrow that crystal ball you were saying Rolls Royce didn’t have a few weeks ago?

    Ireland don’t want a hard border, the UK don’t want a hard border.

    So who does?

    WTO regulations require it in the event of a no deal. You’re obviously as much on top of this as you are with ‘Ze Commission’ etc.

  27. Mark B –

    Good spot.

    The EU’s chief wallahs have been very clear that a trade agreement was always on offer, what has been dubbed Canada Plus. They’ve always been clear too that it was the British government which rejected the idea.

    Anyone on the supposed British side who says that the Withdrawal Agreement was all that the EU was prepared to offer is a flat out liar. Theresa May is truly mendacious.

  28. Seamus, Paul –

    No laws and no WTO rules state that a hard border is necessary.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/wto-says-its-rules-would-not-force-eu-or-uk-to-erect-hard-irish-border-1.3710136

    The World Trade Organisation (WTO) has said that there is nothing in its rules that would force either the EU or UK to erect a hard Irish border after Brexit.

    The Geneva-based trade body where countries negotiate the rules of international trade would only intervene in a dispute over trade if one of its 164 member countries made a complaint […]

    “There is nothing in WTO rules that forces anyone to put up border posts,” said WTO spokesman Keith Rockwell on a visit to Dublin last week.

  29. No. But if the UK requires custom checks (and tariffs) on goods entering the UK from Ghana, Eritrea, Argentina etc… then it must also require custom checks (and tariffs) on goods entering from the Republic of Ireland.

    And if the EU requires custom checks on goods requires custom checks (and tariffs) on goods entering the EU from Ghana, Eritrea, Argentina etc… then it must also require custom checks (and tariffs) on goods entering from the North.

    So the WTO will not require you to have them. However if you don’t have them and continue to make regulatory checks, and impose customs, on other countries then they will fine you.

  30. Precisely Pete.

    Of course under MFNs no one would complain at all to the WTO that the EU and UK were seen to have a preferential agreement under WTO regulations.

  31. Ireland might not insist on a hard border.

    The UK might not insist on a hard border.

    But, unfortunately, poor little Ireland now have new masters.

    If Brussels insist on a hard border, that’s exactly what they will get.

    Who will enforce this I hear you ask..

    The EU army, that’s who. You know, the EU army that is “never going to happen”..

    Merkel joins Macron in calling for a ‘real, true European army’

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/13/merkel-joins-macron-in-calling-for-a-real-true-european-army

  32. Look into this and youll find the CEO is on the EU payroll in some way – money or influence. A word over lunch etc. Then you will find the CBI influence they are on the EUs bung list. Government of all country’s pay Lobbyists Like this guy to publically lobby them so they can be seen to be responding. Why do you think Governments fund so many fake Charities? It’s all a scam on the voter. If he’s going to close the Uk plants down, then he’s going to do it anyway. Whatever we do. I for one find foreign business people sticking their nose in UK affairs unacceptable.

  33. I suppose when things all go tits up, as it inevitably will with the Brussels Empire..

    The Irish Republicans could always bomb Brussels into submission.

    😏

  34. It’s ‘Ze Commission’ and the Overlords building a hard border and telling Airbus to say something about 350 Presidents with 200 mansions each.

    Probably.

  35. Seamus, on January 24th, 2019 at 9:27 PM Said:
    No. But if the UK requires custom checks (and tariffs)

    So, Brussels don’t require any checks then.

    Its just the UK government?

  36. Paul McMahon, on January 24th, 2019 at 9:36 PM Said:
    It’s ‘Ze Commission’ and the Overlords building a hard border and telling Airbus to say something about 350 Presidents with 200 mansions each.

    Probably.

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Yawn…borrriiiing.

    😏

  37. Phantom –

    You were saying?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44120525

    The World Trade Organization (WTO) has ruled that the European Union (EU) failed to comply with requests to end subsidies for Airbus …

    Tuesday’s ruling in favour of the US, which brought the case on behalf of plane-maker Boeing, brings an end to a dispute which began in 2004 over $22bn (£16.3bn) in subsidised European financing for Airbus.

  38. Look into this and youll find the CEO is on the EU payroll in some way – money or influence. A word over lunch etc. Then you will find the CBI influence they are on the EUs bung list.

    Really DIG. Please direct us where to look instead of making absolutely unfounded allegations?

    Isn’t it much more likely that businesses have done reports into this and projected that Brexit will affect them negatively?

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Yawn…borrriiiing.

    True Harri. But what about the Czech and Hungary and Poland and Slovakia and concrete blocks and Christmas markets? Eh!!! What about them?

  39. Is Harri Gemma Collins ? 😉

  40. True Harri. But what about the Czech and Hungary and Poland and Slovakia and concrete blocks and Christmas markets? Eh!!! What about them?

    Eh?

  41. Must be nice to be so naive and trusting as you Paul. I think the Mps and Government are a bunch of twisting conniving barstewards. You appear to think they are all as pure as the driven. Hope your right….But I know better. As for the Airbus bloke he admitted on TV to being put up to making his views so public, by Ministers. So Hammond in all probability. It will come out, put money on it. Guido is on the case.

  42. Must be nice to be so naive and trusting as you Paul

    As a parent, I would strongly disagree with that sentiment.

  43. Colm, on January 24th, 2019 at 9:52 PM Said:
    Is Harri Gemma Collins ? 😉

    The extent of Colms understanding..

    Who the fuck is Gemma Collins?

  44. https://order-order.com/2019/01/24/eus-billion-euro-bung-remain-shills-airbus-ford/

  45. Dig.

    Airbus…are going nowhere.

    Its only the dopey niave gullible liberal regressive’s, who actually fall for all this shit.

    Even so called (do you want to meet my IRA mstes) hardened plastic Irish Republicans fall for it.

    The likes of Bobby Sands must be turning in their graves.

    😏

  46. Yes DIG. I hope you’re down on your knees thanking the EU for keeping those 14,000 jobs in the UK.

    Where’s the link to the CEO and the CBI?

    As for the Airbus bloke he admitted on TV to being put up to making his views so public, by Ministers.

    Not unless he had a sex change he didn’t.

    So Hammond in all probability. It will come out, put money on it. Guido is on the case.

    Yeah, ‘probably’.

  47. Colm.

    Seriously..

    Who the fuck is Gemma Collins?

    Look, if the bar is set any lower for Liberal regressive’s to get under, they will need to dig a pit.

    Gemma Collins s?

    Can someone help me out here?

    Who the fuck is Gemma Collins?

  48. Not unless he had a sex change he didn’t.

    Like no one else noticed..

    Paul

    You really are a horrendous bore of biblical proportions..

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Yawn..😏

  49. Typical Harri conversation on ATW:

    Harri – ‘Yeah, but ‘Ze Commission’ and the halls of Brussels and, and, and’

    Sensible people – No, Harri. This is why you’re incorrect, because, (follows a basic outline which demonstrates that Harri clearly hasn’t a notion of what he’s howling about).

    Harri – ‘Yeah, because Paul and Noel are plastics and Phantom’s a state agent and Seimi’s a girl and Bobby Sands is spinning and Colm and Dave and Seamus and MourneReg and, and, and’

    Sensible people – Silently shake their head and smile wryly.

  50. Paul

    Grow a pair for Gods sake.

    😏

  51. Harri – Some (absolutely unrelated) ‘comical’ comment or jolly jape or something

    Sensible people – Silently shake their head and smile wryly

  52. Harri

    Type in Gemma Collins Jason Gardiner on you tube and you should find a clip of her saying BOOOORING….. to him in a loud Chevy Essex accent. I can’t seem to post links using my iPad. 😉

  53. They have admitted on TV colluding with Ministers. And thats not Ministers of religion. It’s been admitted. It’s collusion…there and no Russians in sight either. Proven.

  54. DIG:

    Paul McMahon, on January 24th, 2019 at 7:38 PM Said:

    The British government is employing Airbus to brief against the British government’s strongest position in negotiations.

    You’re obviosly watching a different video from me. The government asked Airbus to made their findings public.

    Does this change Arbus conclusions on Brexit?

    You’re seriously suggesting that a government asking an airplane builder to make its investigative findings public is ‘collusion?’

    Stretching that a bit don’t you think? Does it change Airubses’ conclusions on Brexit?

    As I said, Airbus came to a conclusion that a no deal Brexit would affect them negatively. Are you not concerned about the future of 14,000 UK jobs?

  55. I have just watched Tory Boy James Delingpole argue for a hard Brexit on This Week on BBC. His argument was that it will all be sorted because the EU needs us more than we need them. Presumably because the UK runs a “trade deficit” with the EU.

    Wrong, Tory Boy. You are as ignorant as Trump. The “trade deficit” simply means that we buy more stuff from them than we sell to them. So we need them more than they need us. Because if it all goes tits up after a hard Brexit we will be short of their stuff and they will merely be short of our money.

  56. Peter

    Depends on what stuff and if said stuff can be obtained elsewhere at a reasonable price.

    You cannot eat a Mercedes Benz , so I guess we will just have to keep the old banger going a few more years. And with China taking a bit of a nose dive, and the USA going all protectionist, I do not being able to eat all those unsold Mercedes Benz’s is going to play on the Germans who, are going into recession and, are losing their biggest markets. And let us not forget who pays into the EU the most ? If those bills cannot be met, and a fair few will be made to accept less, a good few countries might fall out of love with the Project.

    The buyer will always be King when they are prepared to walk away.

  57. If there is no deal there will be a hard border. The EU rightly will not permit shoddy goods and diseased animals entering the EU. What the UK does is anybody’s guess. They are not exhibiting good judgment since Brexit ruined their rational capacity.

    The UK is going down the drain and it is the fault of those who voted Brexit. The rest of the world looks on with amazement and sadness. Once an admired country now suffering a nervous breakdown. How many of you have stored up food and medicine?

  58. Precisely..

    We are being hoodwinked.

    Bruce Everiss • 19 hours ago

    Here is a map of the Balkans.
    Croatia, Serbia and Bosnia were once all part of a big happy country called Yugoslavia.
    Today, of the three, only Croatia is in the EU.
    And the border is very long indeed and very porous. In most places it is much like today’s border between England and Scotland.
    So where is the EU backstop here, for a directly analogous situation?
    There isn’t one. Because the backstop is just a synthetic construct to stop Brexit. We are being treated as idiots.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3c6c29fb9f5973c230224a8859708a8d7566975bbc5c0a6e2d06ca061cf935fa.png

  59. Harri

    Have you searched Gemma Collins yet as mentioned in my comment above ? 🙂

  60. Colm, on January 25th, 2019 at 9:55 AM Said:

    Harri

    Have you searched Gemma Collins yet as mentioned in my comment above ?

    Colm, if its a sleb, I don’t do slebs.

    How old are you.. 12?

    😉

  61. Colm

    By the way, I’m not having a great day?

    The next person who comes into my office and says “I cant do it” or “I want” is going to get both barrels…;-)

  62. Yugoslavia was not a happy country

    There was no Balkan GFA

    Those countries want hard borders, after what the Serbs did

  63. “So where is the EU backstop here, for a directly analogous situation?”

    There isn’t one because the non-EU countries there don’t want to keep one foot in the door, like the UK does.

    Also as Phantom said.

    //Because the backstop is just a synthetic construct to stop Brexit. We are being treated as idiots.//

    Frankly, a lot of you are idiots.

  64. So where is the EU backstop here, for a directly analogous situation

    Yeah, Ireland and the Former Yugoslavia are directly analogous. Apart from the ethnic hatred, genocide, brutally vicious civil war that left tens of thousands dead in the Balkans and Serbia having a Stabilisation and Association Agreement with the EU along with Bosnia having a Free Trade Agreement with the EU and signing a Protocol on the adaptation of a Stabilisation and Association Agreement.

    Completely analogous.

  65. BRITONS would not be “far away” from exploding into riotous anger should Theresa May give in to demands for a second Brexit referendum, prominent Brexiteer Iain Duncan Smith warned

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1056532/Brexit-news-Iain-Duncan-Smith-May-UK-EU-withdrawal-second-referendum-riot-France-latest

    Akward…..

    https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1088695579293687810

  66. Poor little Leo, poor Ireland.

    That EU bus is coming…

    The EU’s calamitous attempts to maintain even a semblance of unity on the Irish backstop have reached farcical new levels today with Leo Varadkar now threatening to put Irish troops back on the border in the event of a no-deal Brexit, despite having again dismissed the need for a hard border just three days ago. There is no way Varadkar will allow himself to become the Irish Prime Minister who put troops back on the Irish border. Momentum is starting to shift firmly against the backstop and the EU are losing the plot. This is a desperate attempt to talk tough, instead the EU just look like headless chickens…

    https://order-order.com/2019/01/25/now-varadkar-threatens-put-troops-irish-border/

  67. Precisely.

    myster_jon
    an hour ago
    This clown is a class A ankle gripper

    Whatever you do little Leo, Brussels still won’t love you

  68. HA HA HA HA . That’s just too good, Paul. Made my weekend.

    Ian Duncan Smith MP:

    Surely only when the detailed legislation has been passed by the House can we go to the people and say to them, “Is this what you said you wanted? Because it does not work – or at least, some of us think that it does not – and here are the reasons why.” That must be the right device.

    He actually said that!

  69. Nice one Paul. LOL.

  70. The credibility of IDS mirrors that of some here 🙂

  71. Pretty apt for this thread I thought:

    https://twitter.com/daviddavismp/status/695208361625796608

  72. This should resonate with Pete:

    Only a madman would leave the Market

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=88&v=0xGt3QmRSZY

    Out means out!!

  73. The anger of French natives is not abating, and yet is unmentioned on Radio 4

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/01/23/doctors-say-number-of-serious-injuries-inflicted-on-yellow-vests-unprecedented/

    Doctors, activists and others are sounding the alarm over the number of serious injuries suffered by Gilets Jaunes (Yellow Vest) movement activists at the hands of police during the past several weeks.

    The French Interior Ministry has claimed that in the first nine weeks of the Yellow Vest protests around 1,800 protesters and 1,000 police officers have been injured but have not separated out those with serious injuries, L’Express reports.

    Doctors in France’s emergency rooms say that some of the injuries have been extremely serious, blaming the police use of “flash-ball” shots which have led to some of the most serious injuries, including at least four protestors, two of them women, who have lost an eye and suffered some form of disfigurement.

    Documentary filmmaker David Dufresne has revealed the details of some of the most serious injuries, listing protestors who have lost hands, had jaws shattered or their eyes ripped open.

    These are ‘the wrong kind of demonstrators’…….

    What began as a mass protest against a rise in fuel taxes has become the largest social movement in France’s recent history, with an overwhelming number of French continuing to support the movement which has now proposed the idea of Swiss-style Citizen Initiated Referendums (RIC) that could enact or repeal laws, strip politicians of their offices, or even amend the French constitution.

    A recent poll released by OpinionWay on behalf of broadcaster LCI revealed that 73 percent of French people backed the RIC proposal, with voters of populist leader Marine Le Pen showing 86 percent support.

    The poll follows a similar poll released at the start of the month which showed an even higher 80 percent support for the RIC.

  74. Maybe not quite on pr with the IDS quote but David Davis suggests that Brexit was undemocratic:

    If a democracy cannot change its mind it ceases to be democracy. We should not ask people to vote on a blank sheet of paper and tell them to trust us to fill in the details afterwards. Referendums should be held when people know exactly what they’re getting

    https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/david-davis-asked-by-andrew-marr-about-the-people-vote-on-brexit-1-5678663

    Absolute gold 🙂

  75. *par

  76. Great demolition job being done on those hypocritical idiot Brexit MPs on this thread 😊

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