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THE QUEEN SLAMS REMOANERS

By Pete Moore On January 25th, 2019

The Queen has urged people to find “common ground” and to respect “different points of view”.

Commentators say the remarks will be seen as referring to the Brexit debate, with MPs due to vote on the PM’s deal for leaving the EU again next week.

Colonials might wonder what the fuss is. Trust me, this is Her Maj letting it be known that She is not happy. But it is a timely rebuke to anti-democrats both within and without Her parliament. The last couple of years have been most instructive to us, the majority, as we daily suffer torrents of abuse. Her Majesty who, let us not forget, backs Brexit, has had enough.

So indeed we ought to find common ground. No better time then for anti-democrat Remoaners to finally accept that they lost. Nothing will so unite the nation.

31 Responses to “THE QUEEN SLAMS REMOANERS”

  1. Pete – the Royal Family and the Queen are a big part of the problem. They’ve got to go.

  2. Is this a spoof?

  3. Means a lot coming from you Pete:

    He admires tax-dodgers and believes that Her Majesty the Queen is the worst monarch in our history

  4. I’m just waiting for Harri to pop up and claim that when the Queen mentions “Common Ground “ that’s a code for Common Purpose. Yep, even Her Maj is one of them 😱

  5. But it is a timely rebuke to anti-democrats

    From a hereditary monarch.

  6. Superb Peter.

  7. Yes that line had me thinking the same too.

    Pete is of course on record as not being a great fan of direct Democracy as a tool of governance. Funny how he has changed his mind on that.

  8. Colm –

    Direct democracy was the referendum. It was direct democracy which has been killed by the sham which is representative democracy.

    But we need not bother ourselves with questions of democracy, because the UK has been revealed – unarguably – to be an oligarchy.

  9. Direct democracy was the referendum

    Much like the Good Friday Agreement then? (passed in the NI state by 71% with an 81% turnout)

  10. Pete

    Don’t fret. Nothing has been killed yet. We might still leave without Mays deal which is presumably what you want.

  11. Here is how May could be swiftly toppled:

    “What a number of MPs explained to me is that the idea Theresa May is safe in office for up to another year, following the failed coup by the Brexiter MPs just before Christmas, is not just wrong, but hopelessly wrong.

    And truthfully after they explained why to me, I felt rather foolish. The point is that – following her ill-judged general election that cost her the Tory Party’s majority – she only survives in office thanks to the support of Northern Ireland’s ten DUP MPs (whose loyalty has been tested to breaking point by the backstop). So here, in the words of one senior Tory, is the arithmetic that is fatal to her. “All that needs to happen is that ten of us troop in to see her and tell her that we will vote against every piece of government legislation unless and until she resigns, and at that point she has to pack her bags”.

    https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/01/the-tory-coup-that-could-bring-down-theresa-may/

  12. Colm –

    Yes, I absolutely want a World Trade Brexit.

    For some reason the idea of giving the EU 39 billion quid while taking rules that we have no say in and still not being able to expand our trade with the world, that just doesn’t seem like the disaster that anti-democrats promise.

  13. Who gives a flying f*** what the unelected monarchy think.

  14. Off with your head Dave!

  15. Pete doesn’t anyway Dave.

    That anti-democrats promise

    You’re not a big fan of democracy either are you Pete?

  16. Paul –

    I was sure that representative democracy is a sham. Now I know it. Remoaners genuinely have no idea how angry the country is, nor the damage they’ve done.

  17. Paul McMahon,

    Pete doesn’t anyway Dave.

    That anti-democrats promise

    Yeah, I spotted that one. I can’t work out of Pete’s really clever, or really stupid.

  18. So you’re all for direct democracy then Pete?

    I can’t work out of Pete’s really clever, or really stupid

    I’m sure Pete won’t be long telling you Dave.

  19. Remoaners genuinely have no idea how angry the country is, nor the damage they’ve done.

    Fair point Pete:

    “Earthquakes in public opinion do not happen often, and when they do they can catch commentators unawares. But if you want to see one in motion you should go back and watch the last two editions of Question Time. Until recently, the BBC show could be relied upon to have a loud contingent of groaning audience members capable of drowning out the ‘gammon’ tendency. The programme even managed to find a broadly pro-Remain audience in Clacton, the one and only seat which Ukip ever managed to win at a general election.

    But no longer. The arrival of Fiona Bruce has coincided with a sharp change in audience tone. When, last week, there were cheers for Isabel Oakeshott when she opposed any kind of delay to Brexit, I put it down to the programme coming from Derby, a working class industrial town which voted 57 per cent in favour of Leave in 2016. But then last night came Winchester, which in 2016 voted 59 per cent in favour of Remain. And yet there, too, the audience showed impatience with anyone who showed sympathy with the idea of delaying Brexit. There is now a very firm sentiment which has taken hold in every part of Britain, at every socio-economic level: it is ‘just get on with it’. Calls for a second referendum are fading fast, as is the belief in extending negotiations. People can see that the EU has not the slightest intention of ceding ground on the backstop or anything else. What is the point in stretching out the business any further?

    So why are those who demanded a second referendum – who seemed so perky just a few weeks ago – suddenly losing ground? I think there is a very good reason. The tragedy of some Remainers – the fatal flaw in their tactics – is that so few of them have been able to say a bad word about the EU. It doesn’t matter how inflexible, how stubborn the EU has been, how determined it has shown itself to punish Britain, these people just haven’t seemed to have it in them to raise the faintest criticism.”

    https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/01/question-time-has-changed-and-so-has-the-brexit-debate/

  20. It doesn’t matter how inflexible, how stubborn the EU has been, how determined it has shown itself to punish Britain

    Peter, I know these aren’t your comments but do you agree with them and if so how have the EU been inflexible and ‘punished Britain?’

  21. Paul

    I have psoed before on the paralells between the EU treatment of Greece in 2015 and the UK since the referendum. The book “Adults in the Room” by Yanis Varoufakis is a must-read for anyone who wants to understand how the EU “negotiates”.

    This is from my link above:

    “This week a quote from Michel Barnier came to light which sums up what has been obvious for many months. Barnier allegedly said some time ago: “I’ll have done my job if the exit terms are so bad that the British would rather stay”. That is a pretty hostile attitude to take in negotiations which were supposed to be taking place between friends and neighbours.”

    https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/01/question-time-has-changed-and-so-has-the-brexit-debate/

  22. Paul

    I have posted before on the paralells between the EU treatment of Greece in 2015 and the UK since the referendum. The book “Adults in the Room” by Yanis Varoufakis is a must-read for anyone who wants to understand how the EU “negotiates”.

    This is from my link above:

    “This week a quote from Michel Barnier came to light which sums up what has been obvious for many months. Barnier allegedly said some time ago: “I’ll have done my job if the exit terms are so bad that the British would rather stay”. That is a pretty hostile attitude to take in negotiations which were supposed to be taking place between friends and neighbours.”

    https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/01/question-time-has-changed-and-so-has-the-brexit-debate/

  23. I have psoed before on the paralells between the EU treatment of Greece in 2015 and the UK since the referendum

    Yes, and they are still incomparable.

    The EU have:

    (Reluctantly), offered Britain a clean cut

    Offered them EFTA status outside the EU

    Offered a ‘backstop’ for special status within the island of Ireland

    Offered to extend negotiations beyond march in order to give more time.

    Please explain how these have been ‘inflexible’ and ‘punishing’ and what do you think would have been the terms which weren’t inflexible or punishing?

  24. If Leaving the EU was cancelled or indefinitely postponed I can confidently predict what would happen. There would be a few Tory righwingers foaming at the mouth on TV There would be a big twitter storm over it and the comments threads on the tabloid online sites would go into overdrive for a few weeks, and that’s about it. There would be no riots and no civil disorder. Everyone would get back to moaning about whatever else they moaned about before Brexit and then life would get back to normal.

  25. Colm, the British people definitely keep calm and carry on!

  26. We will, Brexit or No Brexit 😉

  27. Not according to the Nige Colm. He’ll lead the armed resistance:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVHP1wxqg8U

  28. Paul and Colm

    We are not going to agree on Brexit, but I seriously recommend that you read the Varoufakis book:

    https://www.waterstones.com/book/adults-in-the-room/yanis-varoufakis/9781784705763

  29. While on the subject of Greece Peter, this is a fascinating read on the origins of the right wing Greek miltary coup in 1967, and subsequent military dictatorship, and the lineage of Greece’s neo Nazi Golden Dawn:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/30/athens-1944-britains-dirty-secret?fbclid=IwAR2w54ruT4Ytsph9a7re-WEJ0CMzDZRKAGfplcD4IBiaMISoneIHbb5tHTI

  30. Colm.

    Spot-on.

  31. Now I can only hope to see my prediction come true 😊