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What’s gonna happen?

By Patrick Van Roy On February 11th, 2019

As of today the 3 week we’ll work out a deal deal is dead. The Democrats couldn’t negotiate in good faith. Everyday they moved the goal posts.

So whoopie no Wall! hurrah illegals and drugs can just flow into the country as they please and to hell with the over 60,000 Americans they kill a year. Democrat Voters can still flood on in.

Now there are 3 options come Friday:

1) The Democrats could have a come to Jesus Moment….

2) The Government can shut down again.

3) They can do a continuing resolution till the end of the year.

I hope they pick number 3. Trump will declare an Emergency, the Dems will tie it up in Court and then in January the Obama Mandatory Cuts from the Sequester he put in to take place when he wasn’t President kick in. It takes $55 BILLION out of DOMESTIC PROGRAMS. To stop that from happening a real Budget not a CR needs to be passed or the Social Programs lose that money.

Then the fight is the Wall or no Welfare.

We will just have to wait to see what happens.

67 Responses to “What’s gonna happen?”

  1. “the over 60,000 Americans they kill a year. ”
    You are great at making up bullshit

  2. Yep, bullshit.

    A majority of Texans don’t want this wall in our state and know it’s not necessary.

    You’re not going to get a wall in Texas. Educate yourself by thoroughly reading these two articles.

    Trump is no match for the border barons.

    President Trump Uses Texas as a Prop.

    I’ll highlight one of the important parts for those short on reading comprehension skills.

    Although many big ranchers and landowners backed Trump, they are conservative in the most traditional senses. They actually believe in small government, free enterprise, free trade, and private property. And nobody puts a wall through their brush. These men and women are a pretty private bunch, too. You won’t find their names in the newspaper screaming bloody murder.

    But they know how to make their presence felt. Last year, a couple of dozen border barons from the Laredo region summoned local politicians, cops, and representatives from the Customs and Border Patrol. It was a private, even secret event—no cameras, no press. According to Steve LaMantia, who led the group, the landowners delivered a warning to the feds not to build a wall through their land. To underscore their point, they held another meeting. And just in case it wasn’t crystal clear, they’re going to have another one.

    “The general sentiment—to a person—is that everybody is in favor of additional border security,” said LaMantia. But seizing land through eminent domain? “That is diametrically opposed by everybody, from Zapata to Del Rio.”

  3. https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Zapata,+TX+78076/Del+Rio,+TX/@26.3960366,-101.1940272,6z/data=!4m8!4m7!1m2!1m1!1s0x866155ce4252566d:0xe0aa5e987257ce6f!1m2!1m1!1s0x86f5e9399071467b:0xcb0179f4337a4e0c!3e0

  4. //As of today the 3 week we’ll work out a deal deal is dead. The Democrats couldn’t negotiate in good faith//

    And, sure enough, they’ve worked out a deal.

    Senator Richard Shelby has said tht “all outstanding issues had been resolved”.

  5. //The over 60,000 Americans they kill a year//

    Pat, as recently said, if that southern border wall impedes the flow of drugs into the US Americans will year it down with their own hands.

  6. Daphne

    Those links were interesting and informative. Thanks.

  7. Paul McMahon,

    Pat, as recently said, if that southern border wall impedes the flow of drugs into the US Americans will year it down with their own hands.

    Building a border wall won’t make any difference to the flow of drugs into the US.
    You’d have to be stupid or incredibly naive to think it would.

  8. Of course it won’t. If it did however, Americans would destroy it themselves.

  9. A majority of Texans don’t want this wall in our state and know it’s not necessary.

    don’t know anyone that had a child or a family member that ever had a drug problem…..

  10. you sure as hell don’t know any Angel families either….. your child hasn’t died so it’s not needed…..

  11. “don’t know anyone that had a child or a family member that ever had a drug problem…..”

    The wall will not solve the drug problem.

    The old (misappropriated) Goebbels quote comes to mind “If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it, and you will even come to believe it yourself”. That’s a cautionary tale, not a guidebook.

  12. there were 69,000 people that applied for tickets to Trumps Texas Rally in El Paso the stadium held 10,000 the other 50,000 watched outside on big screens but no no one in Texas wants walls

  13. There are nearly 30 million people in Texas. 69 thousand people are about 0.24% of the population of Texas.

  14. Let’s add the names of five Texans who don’t want a wall. Congresswoman Veronica Escobar (D-TX), Congressman Will Hurd (R-TX), Congressman Henry Cuellar (D-TX), Congressman Vicente González (D-TX), Congressman Filemon Vela (D-TX). The five Representatives who’s districts are on the border. The five Representatives who’s districts will have the border wall. Do not want the wall. Including Congressman Will Hurd, who’s district runs the bulk of the Texas-Mexico border. Hurd, a Republican, doesn’t want Trump’s wall.

    The people who live right on the border don’t want the wall.

  15. Patrick – you are citing what Trump claimed, not an official estimate of numbers. Even if the crowd was twice the size he claimed that would not indicate that the majority of Texans (let alone Americans) support his plan.

  16. even if the wall cuts the drug flow by 10% it will save 5000 lives

  17. This post should be renamed “What’s not gonna happen”

  18. No Mahons over 70,000 people died from od’ing on white heroin last year….. I know more than a few unlike you and the texas cow I volunteer every week in a drug rehab…

  19. “even if the wall cuts the drug flow by 10% it will save 5000 lives”

    Except it won’t. First it won’t cut it by 10% because almost all the drugs are entering through legal points of entry. So the impact on the drugs trade will be negligible.

    Secondly the truly lethal part of the drugs trade is Chinese fentanyl which isn’t coming in over the Mexican border.

    But you know this. It’s been explained 500 times to you. But Dear Glorious Leader The Donald (peace be upon him) says otherwise so you pretend it isn’t true.

  20. Seamus 4 democrats and one republican who’s a rino

  21. “Seamus 4 democrats and one republican who’s a rino”

    So? The democratically elected representatives of the people who live along the border don’t want the wall.

  22. Look your countries can take in all the worlders you want from outside your country….. we don’t want them

  23. “Look your countries can take in all the worlders you want from outside your country….. we don’t want them”

    Well you are doing a terrible job at stopping them. A wall won’t stop them. Demand changes in the United States (such as reforms of the laws on businesses employing them might) but the major change will come from making them want to stay in the current countries.

    Mexican immigration to the United States has collapsed largely due to changes in Mexico. Grow the Mexican economy and people will stop coming. Grow the Salvadorian economy and people will stop coming. Grow the Guatemalan economy and people will stop coming.

    Do you want to know how to stop illegal immigration? Not a wall. Strengthen NAFTA and CAFTA, instead of trying to weaken them.

  24. you know I really hope that the Dems prevent this wall now they want to lower the number of prison beds for violent illegals so more are released into the public.

    I hope they continue to block and free gang members for the next year and a half.

  25. Well you are doing a terrible job at stopping them. A wall won’t stop them. Demand changes in the United States (such as reforms of the laws on businesses employing them might) but the major change will come from making them want to stay in the current countries.

    everyone of those reforms have been blocked by democrats also.

  26. “everyone of those reforms have been blocked by democrats also.”

    Such as?

  27. Yeah give more of our jobs to other countries with NAFTA

  28. You want to stop the problem start shooting illegals as they cross the border…..

  29. You can pick which you prefer Patrick. Either you strengthen the Mexican, Guatemalan and Salvadorian economies or you accept Mexican, Guatemalan and Salvadorian migrants entering the United States.

    You can’t say no to both.

  30. Such as?…… e-verify

  31. “You want to stop the problem start shooting illegals as they cross the border…..”

    Only an evil bastard would suggest something like that. Shooting women and children. Brave boy you are.

  32. “Such as?…… e-verify”

    Where have the Democrats blocked it?

  33. yes Seamus you’re right the democrats have been leading the charge on ending sanctuary cities, prosecuting illegals that commit crimes and removing them from the country, cooperating with ICE it’s all in the nations imagination that they are blocking everything

  34. Only an evil bastard would suggest something like that. Shooting women and children. Brave boy you are.

    an invader is an invader

  35. Look I say lock them up and deport them, but since we can’t lock them up just shoot them when they break in…..

  36. “yes Seamus you’re right the democrats have been leading the charge on ending sanctuary cities, prosecuting illegals that commit crimes and removing them from the country, cooperating with ICE it’s all in the nations imagination that they are blocking everything”

    I didn’t say they were leading the charge.

    You said they were blocking laws that would fine companies for employing illegal immigrants. I asked you to show me examples of them blocking them. You have failed to do so, and so tried to change the goalposts.

    So again, can you show me an example of where the Democrats have blocked laws that would punish companies (including the Trump Organization) for employing illegal immigrants?

  37. “an invader is an invader”

    Yes an invader is an invader. They aren’t invading.

    “Look I say lock them up and deport them, but since we can’t lock them up just shoot them when they break in…..”

    And then you pretend you’re a Christian. There is a place in hell for people like you who want to murder innocent women and children.

  38. The dems say it can be done with drones I say use Viper Drones armed with missiles.

  39. Republicans Absolutely do not want hard sanctions against employers who hire illegals

    Trump himself was a big employer of illegals until about two weeks ago, When he fired long time employees Without any compensation at all

    Republican business owners in agriculture , construction, restaurant, slaughterhouse and other industries benefit from cheap illegals.

    That’s why Trump speaks about walls instead of employer sanctions

    As I have said here for years, if they were extremely severe sanctions against employers of illegals, And no state local or federal benefits at all for any illegals, You would never need a wall

    Employers including Trump have attracted them – that’s why they come. If there were no incentive, why would any of them come?

  40. Dems block GOP bills to verify status, block tax credits …
    https://www.alipac.us/dems-block-gop-bills-verify-status-block-tax
    Democrats block GOP bills to verify status, block tax credits to illegals. by . Newmexican. Rate this article. Excellent … Sessions said if the e-verify program can be accepted by Democrats in the larger bill, they should be able to approve it quickly this week.

    Democrats Block Calvert Amendment to Extend E-Verfiy …
    https://votesmart.org/public-statement/353378/democrats-block
    democrats block calvert amendment to extend e-verify Today Congressman Ken Calvert (R-CA) introduced an amendment to the Homeland Security Appropriations Bill during the full committee mark up to extend E-Verify for ten years.

    Senate Dems block GOP amendments to unemployment bill …
    https://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/202492-senate-dems
    Senate Democrats defeated an attempt by Republicans to vote on amendments to the long-term … Dems aim to block use of … enforcing the E-verify system and stopping Environmental Protection …

    and I can go on and on

  41. So your examples are dead link that doesn’t say anything, a story from 2008 about Democrats blocking the extension of E-Verify beyond 2008 (E-Verify was subsequently reauthorised which is why it still exists), and a dead link that doesn’t say anything.

  42. The total fatal overdose number due to drugs was 70k, and that is for all (including prescribed meds) so your heroin claim is highly inflated. And their is no indication that the vast majority of the drugs came from illegals or through unguarded areas. Conform your arguments to basic accessible facts please.

  43. Seamus – and he can go on and on in that manner….

  44. we have 12-22 million illegals in the country Until the border is sealed everyone whether mommy brought them here as a kid or the walked across the border where there is no wall with a pound of fentanyl I don’t care lock them up and hey lets send them to Ireland I’m sure both the ROI & NI could us 10 or 20 million hispanics added to their housing and medical rolls.

  45. The penalties for not using e-verify were stripped from it…..

    and yes I can go on and on.

    These people don’t belong here, they cost us 100s of Billions a year not to mention the loss of lives….

    The democrats have picked the wrong hill to fight on.

  46. Trump won the Union vote with this issue, he will again

  47. “we have 12-22 million illegals in the country Until the border is sealed everyone whether mommy brought them here as a kid or the walked across the border where there is no wall with a pound of fentanyl I don’t care lock them up and hey lets send them to Ireland I’m sure both the ROI & NI could us 10 or 20 million hispanics added to their housing and medical rolls.”

    Due to the decrease in Mexican illegal immigration (due to the improving Mexican economy that Patrick wants to wreck) the majority of new illegal immigrants in the United States didn’t enter the US illegally. The majority of new illegal immigrants are visa overstays. Thus the majority of new illegal immigrants in the United States have not committed any criminal offence.

    So locking them up would likely be illegal.

  48. “and yes I can go on and on.”

    Don’t go on and on. Just go. Give us one example that stands up to the most basic of scrutiny.

    “Trump won the Union vote with this issue, he will again”

    Trump won six states that the Democrats won in 2012. Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Iowa. He has positive approval numbers in none of them. -4 in Florida, -10 in Pennsylvania, -6 in Ohio, -15 in Michigan, -16 in Wisconsin, and -14 in Iowa.

    So I won’t bet on that Patrick.

  49. There is no factual basis for the claim that those who entered illegally transported drugs. I suppose if one is on a roll of inaccurate claims why not keep going?

  50. Beto had a rally at the same time as Trump right down the road…. he got less than 1000 people to show up

  51. Yeah Mahons the drugs come across via fairies and leprechauns

  52. “Beto had a rally at the same time as Trump right down the road…. he got less than 1000 people to show up”

    Is this your schtick not? No actual original thought, just blindly go through Trump’s talking points?

  53. the majority of new illegal immigrants in the United States didn’t enter the US illegally. The majority of new illegal immigrants are visa overstays. Thus the majority of new illegal immigrants in the United States have not committed any criminal offence.

    Over staying your Visa IS A CRIMINAL OFFENSE……

  54. Patrick – the claim that mythological creatures transport drugs into the US is not much more laughable than many of your claims here. Do you wish to be taken seriously in debates? If so, try to stick to factual claims.

  55. And let’s look at the real numbers that matter in El Paso. The ones we can definitely count, and can report with accuracy. Donald Trump in 2016 got 55,512 in El Paso. In 2018 Beto O’Rourke got 151,482.

  56. The Beto rally had about the same number of attendees as the Trump rally

    These people worship Trump’s anus And are just repeating everything that he says

  57. “Over staying your Visa IS A CRIMINAL OFFENSE……”

    No it isn’t.

  58. The fact that what Trump is saying is the TRUTH…. so you can call them talking points all you want.

  59. in the Country ILLEGALLY…… but it’s not a crime because I was here legally first….

    LMAO

  60. Is overstaying a visa a crime?

    Overstaying a visa is a crime, which means that any person who overstays a visa will now have a criminal record. This once again will be a problem for those who wish to be granted a visa to enter another country or to be allowed back into the United States.
    Penalty for Overstaying a Visa | Legalbeagle.com
    legalbeagle.com/6328434-penalty-overstaying-visa.html

  61. “in the Country ILLEGALLY…… but it’s not a crime because I was here legally first….”

    That is the law. You can quote the eminent source of Legalbeagle all you like. The simple fact is that there is no law on the books that makes unlawful presence a crime. Unlawful presence is a civil matter, not a criminal matter.

    So yes, a person who is in the country “illegally” but who didn’t enter the United States illegally is not committing a criminal offence.

  62. El Paso police estimated the crowd at the Beto rally as 8000.

    But Trump knows better

    And his obsequious, unthinking flock believe everything he says

  63. Overstaying is not really a wall-related problem as someone who overstays enters legally. In most situations someone who overstay should be deported and face a period in which they are barred from re-entry.

  64. Only a childish person would accept the childish Trump estimates of his own crowd against his adversary’s. That being said, and counter rallies are part of our rightful civil dynamic, I think it is a mistake for opposition politicians to focus the opposition on themselves.

  65. Even Trump doesn’t believe the idiotic bullshit that he says

    But our l’il Patrick Eats that right up

  66. It is pointless to listen to anything Trump has to say. Not only is he a total liar but he is a has-been. He lost his wall battle. He lost getting rid of Obamacare. He lost on reviving coal. He got walloped in the mid-terms. He is a lame-duck loser. Save time and trouble and just tune him out.

  67. You can definitely make a case for the wall

    You could never make any moral case for taking healthcare away from people Without providing any decent alternative or for reviving a filthy And in efficient and fading technology

    Even in coal states, they are shutting down coal generating plants In order to replace them with natural gas plant

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