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GOOD LUCK, SIR NIGEL

By Pete Moore On April 12th, 2019

We learn that the government has ordered the civil service to halt plans for a World Trade Brexit after spending £4 billion on it. That’s only the tax money. Businesses have also spent billions. This for something the government never intended to allow. That’s fraud and corruption. How the Prime Minister, a vicar’s daughter, sleeps through her lies is anyone’s guess. May God forgive her. The country will not. The extension to 31st October will cost another £10 billion or so in EU payments. Many Remainers are the type to complain about so-called “austerity”. Well there’s £14 billion spunked up the wall because of you lot. When the next library closes, blame yourselves.

So good luck to Sir Nigel Farage, who today launched The Brexit Party to fight the European elections, which will happen nearly three years after we voted against the need for them.

He;s such a good communicator. “The Brexit Party” a great bit of marketing of course. It’s direct and honest. And unlike the Conservative, Labour, Liberal Democrat and Scottish Nationalist parties, the name is true to its purpose and beliefs. I will vote for it and that vote will go towards a Tory rout, and the most deserved rout it will be.

I would advise Brexit Party candidates to grow a thick hide right now. The establishment media, which is most of it, are about to go to town on them. Every bin will be searched. Every social media post will be pulled up. Every friend will be tapped up for a juicy story. Their lives are about to get the Mueller treatment by HM Gutter Press. Just you watch.

27 Responses to “GOOD LUCK, SIR NIGEL”

  1. Oh dear, Nigel’s chum Boris has been done for peddling fake news in his Torygraph column in January. It’s not been a good week for the DUP’s favourite candidate to replace May as PM. He was also censured for not declaring a financial interest, for the second time in 12 months. But that would hardly be an issue for the DUP (see Baby Doc various):

    “The Telegraph has been forced to correct a column by Boris Johnson after the Brexiter MP and potential Tory leadership candidate falsely claimed a no-deal Brexit was the most popular option among the British public. The claim was made in a column (£) published in January but has since been removed from the online version after a complaint by a member of the public to the press regulator Ipso. An online correction said: “In fact, no poll clearly showed that a no-deal Brexit was more popular than the other options. This correction is being published following a complaint upheld by the Independent Press Standards Organisation.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/apr/12/daily-telegraph-forced-correct-false-brexit-claim-boris-johnson

  2. Peter –

    You’re being lied to. It’s no surprise that the BBC leads in pushing this great lie.

    https://order-order.com/2019/04/12/remainer-academic-ipsos-boris/

    IPSO has forced The Telegraph to amend a column Boris wrote in January in which he suggested ‘No Deal’ was the most popular option with the public. A Remainer academic from Reading University complained to IPSO extraordinarily hysterically saying that Boris’ column was “clearly out of the Trump/Bannon playbook.” …

    IPSO is mistaken on this point, IPSO clearly didn’t look at this Opinium poll just before Boris wrote his column and as reported at the time by the BBC:

    That poll, shown in in the link, vindicates Johnson and reveals that IPSO and the BBC (yet again) are lying, anti-democratic crooks.

  3. So will Farage lead the Brexit Party to a victory and then jump ship and run away again, like he did last time? It looks to me like Nigel was enjoying his MEP benefits a little too much and wants another bite of that particular cherry.

  4. No Pete, guilty as charged, bang to rights. See the Torygraph’s pathetic defence:

    “In its defence the Telegraph said Johnson was “entitled to make sweeping generalisations based on his opinions”. It also suggested that claims in Johnson’s column should not be taken seriously as the piece “was clearly comically polemical, and could not be reasonably read as a serious, empirical, in-depth analysis of hard factual matters”.

    https://order-order.com/2019/04/12/remainer-academic-ipsos-boris/

  5. Peter –

    Clearly not guilty as charged, because the evidence clearing him is in front of you, above. You and The Telegraph suddenly sound like a Tory minister faced with a mob, all frothing at New Statesman lies.

    Backbone man, backbone.

  6. //the DUP’s favourite candidate to replace May as PM//

    But wasn’t BoJo being tipped to replace Cameron after Brexit won the election, only for Boris to say he wasn’t interested and meekly step aside in favour of May?

    So what has changed since 2016, apart from the fact that his Brexit strategy has failed?

  7. Pete

    Your guy is a charlatan, as you well know. I do so hope the Tories elect him leader. They are certainly stupid enough to do so.

  8. Noel

    Bojo is a shoo-in if there is a Tory contest. Let’s hope so anyway, because he will blow up the party.

    He spoke at the DUP conference in Belfast a few months ago and they were falling at his feet. The DUP continually claim that they don’t want a no-deal Brexit, but their voting record since November says otherwise. I think it’s what they have always wanted.

  9. Peter

    If BJ blows up the Conservative Party, what option will sensible people have there?

  10. Phantom

    I think that May will be toppled as PM soon after a final failed attempt to get her deal through Parliament later this month. Then there will be a Tory leadership contest which will be won by a hard Brexiter, probably Johnson, but there are at least three other credible candidates.

    Then there will be a general election in wich hard Brexit will be the only issue. The Tories will be the party of hard Brexit and Labour will be the party of Remain / Second Referendum and the rest won’t count under our voting system. The Tories will win that election and a hard Brexit will swiftly follow.

    The inevitable break-up of the Union will take a few years more. Scotland will depart by 2025 and Northern Ireland soon after that.

  11. We are in interesting times my friend

  12. Did Nigel forget to register his new party’s website address? He seems to be a very competent guy.

  13. My concern about the BREXIT Party is that it may actually work to help the Tories and Labour by splitting the Eurosceptic vote. NF Is no lover of certain members of his former party who unceremoniously booted him out of Party Leader and, have since, taken on issues that are not directly related to BREXIT.

  14. Noel –

    Boris Johnson was stabbed in the back, at the 11th hour, by Michael Gove, who has since revealed himself to be entirely without morals. Johnson couldn’t stand for election after that, allowing the media to destroy Andrea Leadson, leading to May’s coronation.

    Johnson and the other democrats never had a chance to get us out of the EU. Remainers have been in total control.

  15. If BJ blows up the Conservative Party, what option will sensible people have there?

    The Tories have blown up! Theresa May has killed them. They’re about to be wiped out in the European and local elections, and then fall at the next General Election. The only possible way that they can save themselves is to elect Boris Johnson as leader (and PM) to deliver a World Trade Brexit. But that won’t happen. Theresa May is a kamikaze Tory who simply won’t resign even though her support in the party is through the floor.

    Peter hasn’t a clue what Johnson might achieve. Look, London is more Labour than New York is Democratic. London is deep, deep red. It is a rock-solid Labour city. Yet Boris Johnson was TWICE elected Mayor.

    The first time, in 2008, he defeated the incumbent, Ken Livingstone, one of Labour’s best known London politicians. He did the same in 2012. He achieved it because he has a charisma which lifts him above party politics. In purely electoral terms, he is the outstanding candidate to lead the Tories, by a long way. But he has enemies in the Parliamentary Tory Party, and if he stands again the Remain media will go nuclear on him. At the moment no-one can say who the next leader will be.

  16. Boris Johnson was stabbed in the back, at the 11th hour, by Michael Gove, who has since revealed himself to be entirely without morals.

    LOL. Pot and kettle.

  17. Pete Moore

    I’m disappointed that you appear to have become a shameless Johnson groupie. Because you’re better than that:

    The only possible way that they can save themselves is to elect Boris Johnson as leader (and PM) to deliver a World Trade Brexit.

    The World Trade Organisation is imploding under the assault of protectionism from all quarteres, not least the USA. There is every chance that Trump will pull the USA out of it in the run-up to November 2020.

    The first time, in 2008, he defeated the incumbent, Ken Livingstone, one of Labour’s best known London politicians. He did the same in 2012. He achieved it because he has a charisma which lifts him above party politics.

    LOL. Both of Johnson’s wins in London were when Labour was in the doldrums and deserving to lose. Where is the evidence that he is “above party politics”? Has he ever tried to reach out to another party? Apart from the DUP I mean.

  18. Peter –

    I’m disappointed that you appear to have become a shameless Johnson groupie.

    I’m not, but the Tories are in no position to be choosy about his faults. They need him to take the wheel.

    The World Trade Organisation is imploding under the assault of protectionism from all quarteres, not least the USA.

    Your hyperbole and exaggeration aside, so what? We were going to do a trade deal with the US instead anyway. But for some reason, known only to headbangers, it’s better to deprive ourselves of the freedom to do trade deals.

    Both of Johnson’s wins in London were when Labour was in the doldrums and deserving to lose.

    Labour was in government on both occasions. Some doldrums.

    Where is the evidence that he is “above party politics”?

    I said his charisma lifts him above party politics. It gives him an appeal to people who would otherwise never dream of voting Tory. That’s how he twice became the Mayor of London. It’s unthinkable that another Tory could pull it off.

  19. We were going to do a trade deal with the US instead anyway. But for some reason, known only to headbangers, it’s better to deprive ourselves of the freedom to do trade deals.

    I ask again (third time): How will we get a better trade deal from the USA if we are outside the Customs Union than if we are in it? Please see my 8.19 on the Tories thread.

    The headbangers are the “Global Britain” gang and you are obviously a fully paid up member. I would expect no less.

  20. Labour was in government on both occasions. Some doldrums.

    In 2008 Labour was on its last legs under Brown. In 2012 Cameron had been PM for two years.

  21. It’s unthinkable that another Tory could pull it off.

    You ignore the extent to which Johnson is loathed, and not just among a significant section of the Tories. Most Labour voters now see him for the charlatan that he is, a philandering, unscrupulous public schoolboy posing as a man of the people.

    If the Tories want a pro-Brexit leader they should choose someone with at least some integrity. Dominic Raab or Liz Truss or maybe even Jeremy Hunt. Both of the latter supported Remain but have since seen the light.

  22. I ask again (third time): How will we get a better trade deal from the USA if we are outside the Customs Union than if we are in it?

    1) We don’t “need” a trade deal with the US. The US is our single greatest trading partner, and we have a healthy balance of trade with it.

    2) We would be making our own decisions. In a CU we will have to accept anything that the EU imposes. The EU can promise access to 70 million British consumers while closing down markets to British producers, and there’s not a thing we could do about it.

    3) Control of our trade policy gibes the EU control of our foreign policy.

    4) The EU is economically terminal. It is the one continent which is shrinking economically. Even Antarctica is performing relatively better. This is an age of astonishing economic growth, and people like you want our trade policies wholly controlled by the one people who manage consistent economic contraction.

    5) To many of us, sovereignty and Independence is not about GDP data points (even though leaving is a prerequisite to a better economy).

    That’s not exactly “leaving the EU”, is it?

    I’ll give you 2012, but I’ve had a beer and rugby is on the box.

  23. 1) you need a trade agreement with anybody you wish to trade with, unless you propose unfettered access! Good luck with that. Plus orange man thinks you are stealing America’s money

    2) regardless if inside or out of the EU you will have to accept what the EU gives you

    3) bull crap

    4) it’s not contracting it’s just not growing exponentially which is hardly surprising since it’s relatively rich to start with

    5) you are no longer the empire where the sun never sets and you just have to accept that

  24. You will have to accept what the EU gives you

    Not true

  25. from an outside objective…..

    sorry EP, Pete’s reasoning is sounder.

  26. Pete Moore

    Total bullshit at 9.32, unless you are unintentionally arguing to remain in the Customs Union. Or maybe you are accepting that the “independent UK trade policy” is just another Brexiter lie? Because it ain’t going to happen. After a hard Brexit there will be nothing “independent” about “free trade” negotiations with the USA or India or China. And you and your lying charlatan heroes Johnson and Farage well know it.

    Let’s just leave as best we can and be done with it, and stop tilting at windmills and telling lies. And insulting people’s intelligence.

  27. Pete Moore there is a famous quote by a Canadian Prime Minister which is very apropos to the UK / EU situation

    Living next to you is like sleeping with an elephants. No matter how friendly and even tempered the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt!

    Now he was talking about Canada / US relations but it’s the same dynamic