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GREENS ARE RELIGIOUS FANATICS

By Pete Moore On April 23rd, 2019

17.4 million betrayed Britons have suddenly discovered what it takes to get the political establishment to listen. We just have have be a 16 year Swedish autist. Being madly wrong is beside the point. As long we look like we’ve stepped out of Children of the Corn then they’ll hang on every word. But then telling the political establishment to punish us because of the weather is likely to get a hearing. Less so Brendan O’Neill, who knows about punishment having to sit next to that awful woman on Sky News. He’s got this bunch of zealots bang to rights –

32 Responses to “GREENS ARE RELIGIOUS FANATICS”

  1. they want to end mankind

    https://news.yahoo.com/one-million-species-risk-extinction-due-humans-draft-131407174.html

  2. In this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death, taxes and Brendan O’Neill talking shite.

  3. O’Neill really got his arse handed to him with this tweet:

    https://twitter.com/spikedonline/status/1120341522979938304

    But then again, he who pays the fiddler bullies the sixteen year old Asberger’s sufferer calls the multi billionaire anti climate change shill tune.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/07/us-billionaires-hard-right-britain-spiked-magazine-charles-david-koch-foundation

  4. and Brendan O’Neill talking shite

    I listened to what he said so what was “shite”?

  5. The nonsense that caring about the environment, and being concerned about the long term effects of our mistreatment of the environment, is somehow an attack on ordinary people and their way of life.

  6. The nonsense that caring about the environment ..

    I care about the environment, and I’m nothing like these fanatical misanthropes.

  7. Seamus – we white people care about the environment but it’s getting to the point of becoming an auto-immune disease. The worst polluters are the 3rd-world and recently-developed east Asian countries and if more effort were made to deal with the worst 90% then the world would be a cleaner place. It needs better ebola in these areas

  8. “The worst polluters are the 3rd-world and recently-developed east Asian countries and if more effort were made to deal with the worst 90% then the world would be a cleaner place.”

    Overwhelmingly the majority of the world’s carbon emissions come from developed economies. The G7 alone provides for 25% of the world’s carbon, while the E7 countries account for 43%. All but one of the G7 countries are white majority countries, and 1-3 of the E7 countries are white (depending on how you classify Hispanic people).

    The idea that white people are not responsible for climate change or environmental problems is farcical. Yes increasingly harmful industrialisation is occurring outside of predominantly white countries but white majority countries still generate a disproportionate share of the world’s carbon.

  9. CO2 is not a pollutant but is an essential component of our vital atmosphere. Plastics, on the other hand, are most definitely pollutants and destroyers of marine life – so where do they come from?

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/stemming-the-plastic-tide-10-rivers-contribute-most-of-the-plastic-in-the-oceans/

    The results, published last November in Environmental Science & Technology, show that rivers collectively dump anywhere from 0.47 million to 2.75 million metric tons of plastic into the seas every year, depending on the data used in the models. The 10 rivers that carry 93 percent of that trash are the Yangtze, Yellow, Hai, Pearl, Amur, Mekong, Indus and Ganges Delta in Asia, and the Niger and Nile in Africa. The Yangtze alone dumps up to an estimated 1.5 million metric tons of plastic waste into the Yellow Sea.

    Any attempt to explain this fundamental to any of the idiots of the fully-funded Extinction Rebellion is a waste of effort

  10. “CO2 is not a pollutant but is an essential component of our vital atmosphere.”

    CO2 is a pollutant. It is also an essential component of our atmosphere. The problem is that we are producing far too much of it.

    Additionally plastic is a similar problem. The developed countries are primarily responsible. The G7 produces 27% (some 74 million tonnes) of the world’s plastic waste every year, while the E7 produces 35% of the world’s plastic waste every year.

  11. Lots of things that are good in moderation are bad in the extreme or in the wrong place.

    Heat is good, but there absolutely is such a thing as heat pollution ( ie superheaated water discharge from a factory )

    Noise is good, but too much is bad.

    Etc.

  12. Additionally plastic is a similar problem. The developed countries are primarily responsible.

    What?? I’ve just provided source evidence that it’s the 3rd-world and recently developed Asia that is the problem and this can be seen by looking at how clean our rivers – the ones near us – are or have become. Once again…..

    The results, published last November in Environmental Science & Technology, show that rivers collectively dump anywhere from 0.47 million to 2.75 million metric tons of plastic into the seas every year, depending on the data used in the models. The 10 rivers that carry 93 percent of that trash are the Yangtze, Yellow, Hai, Pearl, Amur, Mekong, Indus and Ganges Delta in Asia, and the Niger and Nile in Africa. The Yangtze alone dumps up to an estimated 1.5 million metric tons of plastic waste into the Yellow Sea.

    East Asia, India, Africa – those are the hot spots for plastices which are long-term menaces to the environment. None of the moneyed idiots of Extinction Rebellion (FFS – seriously?) would understand any of that.

  13. CO2 is a pollutant. It is also an essential component of our atmosphere

    Seamus – what is the correct ppmCO2 in our atmosphere?

  14. Plastic is a big problem in the US.

    You see plastic bag pollution everywhere you go, even in forests or rural places.

  15. ” I’ve just provided source evidence that it’s the 3rd-world and recently developed Asia that is the problem and this can be seen by looking at how clean our rivers – the ones near us – are or have become. Once again…..”

    And I provided data that showed that it wasn’t.

    The G7 produces 27% (some 74 million tonnes) of the world’s plastic waste every year, while the E7 produces 35% of the world’s plastic waste every year.

    The problem is that we are producing too much plastic. Yes there is further issues in other countries that plastic waste is not being managed properly (and being allowed to flow into rivers). But the major problem is that we are producing too much of it.

  16. There are many types of plastics

    The variety makes it at times really hard to recycle

    So much of it is not recycled

  17. “Seamus – what is the correct ppmCO2 in our atmosphere?”

    I’m not sure. I’m not a climatologist or an atmospheric scientist.

    However, for most of the last 500,000 years CO2 levels in the atmosphere have fluctuated between 180 and 300 parts per million. That is the amount created naturally. It is now, due to human activity, 380 parts per million.

  18. https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/07/plastic-produced-recycling-waste-ocean-trash-debris-environment/

  19. “So much of it is not recycled”

    Exactly. One of the reasons the west seems to deal with plastics better (ie a lot of it doesn’t end up in rivers etc…) is that a) we pay more impoverished countries to take our plastic waste b) we recycle more than they do c) our landfill procedures are better than theirs; and d) we burn a lot of it – which causes other environmental harms.

  20. yep

    And now China is refusing to accept such waste which will create other types of problems.

  21. The key is to start moving (especially for packaging, drinks containers etc…) to more biodegradable alternatives. They’ve invented a plastic cup that is made of corn flour (corn starch in America). It has the feel and appearance of a plastic cup but will biodegrade. They’ve even started making cutlery, bowls, water bottles etc. from it.

  22. NY state is ( at last ) about to ban disposable plastic bags outright

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/28/nyregion/plastic-bag-ban-.html

    A decisive if belated move in the right direction

    Believe it or not, there was some opposition to it.

    It’s cheaper to pollute.

    But it’s pretty easy to get used to using drastically fewer bags like this.

  23. There was massive opposition to charging a 5p tax on plastic bags here, never mind outright banning them.

  24. this sums it all up the truth undisputable…. deal with it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W33HRc1A6c

  25. Even with recycling, getting rid of plastic bags, less carbon from vehicles and all the other actions climate change people advocate, the earth will continue to heat up but a trifle less than if those things were not done. That is one reason this issue is frustrating. Major initiatives such as sun shading should considered because they would make a much more positive impact that the mundane ‘solutions’ of the climate change people presently advocate. In the meantime we should be good stewards of our planet.

  26. Allan@Aberdeen

    //Seamus – what is the correct ppmCO2 in our atmosphere?//

    I’ve given you the answer to this question several times now Allan. you never listen and you don’t really want an answer. You just want to carry on ranting in your little echo chamber.

  27. Speaking of Greens and religion. I heard that a while back the authorities in Paris had let develop a large bee population in the roof of Notre Dame cathedral. The idea was to use parts of the city as a bee sanctuary due to depleting bee populations in the countryside (which is a very serious problem all over Europe and, I believe, in N. America too), and the existing small bee colony in the church roof quickly grew to over 2000 bees.

    It appears that almost all the bees survived the fire, which is in itself a holy miracle. Apparently at the first outbreak they migrated towards the facade end of the building, which was not affected by the flames. The smoke sort of intoxicated the bees and they survived blissfully unaware of the hell around them.

    God works in wondrous ways.

  28. That’s a great story Noel.

  29. These are doing just fine in North America

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/10/10/believe-it-or-not-the-bees-are-doing-just-fine/?utm_term=.b8e0091051ca

    I was in a garden this past weekend, they were everywhere, working

  30. Noel

    You may be interested to know that there are at least 200 man-tended beehives in NYC, perhaps more, kept by families, or in some cases businesses.

    I believe that this is a rising ” hobby ” across the country. There is a subculture of amateurs that are into this, a labor of love.

    https://www.wnyc.org/story/218358-urban-bees-may-be-running-out-foraging-ground/

    http://www.bees.nyc/

  31. Dave Alton, on April 24th, 2019 at 9:25 AM Said:

    Allan@Aberdeen

    //Seamus – what is the correct ppmCO2 in our atmosphere?//

    I’ve given you the answer to this question several times now Allan.

    Dave – the question was addressed to Seamus, and there is no ‘correct’ answer although there can be reasonable answers. Seamus’s answer is neither right nor wrong but falls within the band width of reasonable. My answer would be similar.

    A question for you Dave…….

    The fire in Notre Dame is now being described by the former French Inspector-General for Historic Monuments Benjamin Mouton, who oversaw the installation of state-of-the-art fire prevention systems in the Notre Dame Cathedral in 2010, and who was responsible for the building from 2000 to 2013, as not being caused by an electrical short-circuit.

    Benjamin Mouton was interviewed live on TV on Monday evening as the fire continued to burn the 850-year-old symbol of French culture and history. Here’s what he had to say:

    “I don’t understand this at all. The fire’s spread is extremely curious. With really old oak like that, it’s super-hard, so you’d need a lot of smaller wood to first get the fire hot enough for the oak beams to burn.

    In 2010 we replaced all the electrical wiring, so there’s no way this was sparked by a short-circuit. We put new wiring in place according to modern standards. And we went even further; we installed state-of-the-art fire protection and detection systems in the cathedral.

    At all times, there are always two men on standby in the Cathedral, day and night, to go investigate anything the moment an alarm goes off, then if necessary to call the fire emergency services.

    I am really stunned that this [the fire] has happened. It’s incomprehensible.”

    That’s not all. Mouton told French construction magazine BatiActu the following:

    “In 40 years of experience, I have never heard of a fire like this.

    It would take a really combustible load at the start of such a fire for it to rapidly develop into the disaster we saw. Also, oak is a particularly fire-resistant wood.

    The fire detection/protection system installed in the cathedral was of the highest level. It was a very expensive undertaking, but it enabled us to quickly ascertain whether a fire had started somewhere. Additionally, we had many old wooden doors replaced by fire-doors.

    We also drastically reduced the number of electrical appliances throughout the building, and completely forbid them in the attic.”

    https://www.batiactu.com/edito/notre-dame-apres-incendie-rien-n-est-fini-selon-ex-56147.php

    Take this text to your translator……

    Le mystère sur les causes de l’incendie reste donc entier. Un expert du secteur de la construction, confie également son incompréhension auprès de Batiactu : “L’incendie n’a pas pu partir d’un court circuit, d’un simple incident ponctuel. Il faut une vraie charge calorifique au départ pour lancer un tel sinistre. Le chêne est un bois particulièrement résistant.”

    Now, given the above, and given your self-admitted pyromaniacal handling of angle grinders, the question put to you is of utmost seriousness:

    Where were you at 18.30 on 15th April 2019?

  32. //There is a subculture of amateurs that are into this, a labor of love. //

    That’s great to hear. But over here a while back there were several TV documentaries about disappearance of bee populations across the US, more in the vast rural regions.
    That suburban gardens are fast becoming a refuge for bees and insects and birds is happening here too.