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NO PM IS BETTER THAN A BAD PM

By Pete Moore On May 22nd, 2019

It’s a total clown show in Downing Street tonight. It appears that even most Tory MPs have given up on the Prime Minister after learning that she lied to the Cabinet. They all want her to go, at long last. But she’s determined to cling on. The Home Secretary, Defence Secretary and Foreign Secretary each demanded to see the PM tonight. Downing Street knocked them back.

This is where the Prime Minister is. Her scheming to stay on was once calculated in months. Then it was weeks. Tonight she’s clinging on simply by not opening the door.

It’s a total, hilarious clown show.

29 Responses to “NO PM IS BETTER THAN A BAD PM”

  1. But she’s determined to cling on.

    I doubt it now Pete. This is reminiscent of the cabinet overthrowing Thatcher in 1990 as some of us (ahem) predicted a few days ago.

    David Liddington will be installed as temporary PM by the weekend at the latest.

  2. I’ve been listening a bit to this talk radio station over the web

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/

    Brexit of course the number one topic of conversation these days

    Tough, tough problem.

  3. Do you think we will be treated to the sight of a dozen cabinet ministers trying to drag her out of No 10 with Theresa kicking and screaming and clinging on to the doorknob with her fingertips 😁

  4. I want Pete Moore as the new PM

    Let’s restore dignity to 10 Downing Street.

  5. I agree Phantom. I would make a very good PM. LBC is a very good station, though it has a few commie presenters. Outside of election campaigns, such as now, Farage presents a show at 6pm UK time Monday-Thursday. I find him very fair and balanced.

    Peter –

    May is safe until Tuesday. There is no political reporting tomorrow because of the voting. The scale of the Tory trouncing won’t be known until Sunday night, when the results are announced. Monday is a Bank Holiday. She has breakfast in Downing Street Tuesday morning.

    Those are the Prime Minister’s horizons now.

  6. Yup, and it will simply go on like this as for long as it takes. For goodness sake, if you could just stop thinking of T. May as “The British Prime Minister” and see her for what she is: an EU official posing as the British PM, (and indeed regard the Con/Lab/Lib/Green etc “parties” in the same way) then it would all make sense and we’d no longer gaze in utter bewilderment at what is happening.
    I repeat: They’re not “remainers”, they’re not “pro-EU”; they ARE the EU. Once that curtain drops and the scales fall from your eyes, this is completely normal and expected.

  7. I hope what you say is true Brex, and they succeed in keeping us in the EU.

  8. I hope that you get to live in the kind of political leadership that you desire, Colm. I have no wish that those who want to remain in the EU be deprived of the life that they want. This is the sort of issue that ought to lead to partitioning the country so that both sides have what they want.

  9. Seriously, this should mean the end of the UK as it was. What’s the point of this “divide and rule” nonsense?

  10. Be careful what you wish for.

  11. I get what you’re alluding to Paul, but that’s because power-hungry politicians are never happy with partitions; they want it all or nothing, as both sides have shown in NI. But as for me, I’d be happy if they’d let all of us 17m “leavers” have Cornwall & Devon and the rest of the UK stay in the EU. No, that’s unfair, I’d be happy with Cumberland.

  12. Politicians should lead the people not follow them. Keep the whole U.K. as it is in the EU. If it ain’t broke don’t Brexit 😉

  13. That’s actually a very good catchy pro-EU slogan Colm. You should copyright it.
    But I still don’t understand your stance. You’re actually happy for all the laws that affect you to be made in other countries and imposed upon you, and that you can’t elect or de-elect those who make them? I don’t get that. Is it simply that (so far) EU laws and directives are fairly in line with what you like? I could understand that as far as it goes, But what happens when they make laws you don’t care for? Or do you not think that will happen?

  14. Actually I was speaking about a new PM Brexi but now that you mention it:

    I’d be happy if they’d let all of us 17m “leavers” have Cornwall & Devon and the rest of the UK stay in the EU.

    That sounds quite reasonable.

  15. The Tory party members will now get to elect the next PM. They number approx 100,000 mostly over age 60, and let’s not get into “diversity” because there is none to speak of.

    The hope is that Boris the Chancer or Raab the Chancer or Leadsom the Chancer will have the decency to call a general election asap in order to get some sort of democratic mandate. But of course they won’t do that unless they think they are nailed-on to win an overall majority, just like May thought she was two years ago.

    The wild card is Farage and his Brexit Party, to deal with or not to deal with? As in an electoral pact “coupon election” as happened in 1918 (look it up). Either choice could destroy the Tories if the cards fall the wrong way. Here’s hoping.

  16. IMO Peter, there are no “Tories” to destroy. May, Corbyn, thingy (Lib Dem whatever his name is)…all just EU officials. Doesn’t matter a jot which of them is “PM”. All will do their masters’ bidding, just like Macron and Merkel. Brexit Party will need a clear overall majority come the next election, as any and all of the others will coalign together if possible.

  17. The Brexit Party will need a clear overall majority come the next election, as any and all of the others will coalign together if possible.

    If the BP have a clear majority then it matters not a jot if there is an alignmant of parties in oppisition. I personally think it’s wishful thinking on behalf of the Brexis but hope I’m incorrect.

  18. No Brex, there’s a difference. If the Tories elect a true Brexiter there will be a choice at the next general election, hopefully this year:

    1. Tories and Brexit party in alliance for a hard Brexit on 31 October and implement the 52% 2016 referendum.
    2. Labour for a soft Brexit after a second referendum, probably meaning no Brexit and overturn the 52% 2016 referendum.
    3. Lib-Dems for Remain in the EU and overturn the 52% 2016 referendum in favour of the 48% who voted Remain.

    Under our absurd electoral system the Brexit Party could win 25% of the votes and 5% of the seats. But if I recall correctly, you are against proportional voting systems. I’m sure you will correct me if I’m wrong.

  19. In the meantime, as I don’t actually expect the EU to be overthrown on this isle via the ballot-box alone, if some leader or figurehead could be found who could co-ordinate a massive program of total civil disobedience to the EU, I’d like that. All their directives and laws should be disobeyed and ignored, and if the populsace could be garnered to act in unison, it would be great. GDPR, MTD, smart-meters, etc, all these EU directives, if somehow we could be persuaded en-masse to disobey, disregard, smash to smithereens, and above all to starve the state of its cash.

  20. You’re correct Peter, I have a regard for FPTP as it requires a party to have a good deal of support in order to win. It’s odd though as it all depends on constituencies and boundaries. At 25% of the national vote a party could get next to no seats…at 30% it could get a minority…then all of a sudden at (?) 40-45% it can utterly sweep the board. It means you have to campaign hard and tough, and win over a good lot of people, then all of a sudden it will happen for you. I do like that idea.

  21. Phantom.
    //I want Pete Moore as the new PM

    Let’s restore dignity to 10 Downing Street.//

    As well as weekly executions. 😀

  22. Brex

    I don’t agree with your analysis that we are governed by other countries. We are the EU as much as all other members are. There is no single foreign body dictating to us. It is a voluntary cooperative venture whose careful and in most cases unanimously agreed laws are designed to benefit all Europeans. The EU is a force for good in this global world and it has helped maintain Europe as essentially the area with the best economic social and financial standards on the planet. We would be foolish to leave it.

  23. At 25% of the national vote a party could get next to no seats…at 30% it could get a minority…then all of a sudden at (?) 40-45% it can utterly sweep the board. It means you have to campaign hard and tough, and win over a good lot of people, then all of a sudden it will happen for you. I do like that idea.

    But it’s not democracy. In 2015 the Scottish Nationalists won 90% of the seats on 55% ov the votes. That means that 45% were unrepresented. First past the post is not remotely democratic.

  24. FPTP tends to be fairly Democrat when you have two main parties hoovering up around 90% plus of votes as used to be the case on the U.K. and still is in the USA. When you have a more fragmented division of votes with more parties involved it becomes a lot less accurate as a fair distributor of seats in parallel with vote percentages.

  25. The EU election tomorrow will be the most democratic election on a UK-wide basis, because the results will be proportional in each of the 12 regions – 9 in England, and 1 in Scotland, 1 in Wales, 1 in Northern Ireland which will elect 73 MEPS (60, 6, 4 and 3 respectively). That may not add up to a totally proportional outcome in the UK as a whole, but it will be way better than anything that “first past the post” would have delivered.

    I speak as someone in favour of Brexit and I am well aware of the irony. But I also speak as someone in favour of a fair voting system.

  26. Thanks for the radio link to lbc, Phantom, at 9:01 PM.

    I’ve been listening to it all morning.

  27. . . . Tory MPs have given up on the Prime Minister after learning that she lied to the Cabinet.

    So it is OK for her to lie to the country but, when it comes to them, it’s a resigning matter. Give me strength.

    Anyway, I want her to stay. Yes, STAY !!! I think she is doing more good that way by bringing the Tory Party down. It will NEVER recover from this, NEVER !!!

    So dig in those Kitten Heels of yours Mrs.May and make the buggers sweat.

  28. LBC is the best talk radio current affairs station on the go.

    Balanced, informative and unrestricted.

  29. Theresa May has ended up as all childless career-women, and being PM (whatever that is nowadays) was no compensation for her. Here’s more childless career-women complaining of their failure as women…….

    https://humanparts.medium.com/the-dating-deadline-25ddb2f2314d

    My girlfriends and I sit around our favorite Brooklyn restaurant, red wine flowing, lights dim. We’re all in our late thirties, have jobs we love, friendships we cherish, passions that keep us up at night.

    And we are all single.

    It’s not news that New York is a terrible dating scene for straight women. My girlfriends and I have been enduring bad dates for years. At one point we coordinated a weekly meeting to review a Google spreadsheet of our collective dates so none of us had to make the same mistake twice. A crummy dating scene for women is par for the getting-older course.

    But now the stakes feel higher. In a few years we won’t be able to have children, at least not naturally. This has always been a distant reality, a problem saved for later. Pregnancy is so ingrained in our image of the female experience we rarely think to question it. But now the time has come, it seems. Like a particularly challenging Escape Room, we have to act quick.