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WE SAID THIS WOULD HAPPEN

By Pete Moore On June 2nd, 2019

A party formed seven weeks ago is now leading in the latest polls.  First Past The Post makes it difficult to predict the distribution of seats, because that depends on the distribution of votes with relation to marginals. However it’s clear that The Brexit Party is killing both the Tories (17 per cent!) and Labour.

87 Responses to “WE SAID THIS WOULD HAPPEN”

  1. Isn’t this just a rehash of your ‘Brexit Country’ blog a short while back?

    The fact of the matter is that the UK electorate elected 73 MEPs 39 of whom want to remain in the EU. The people have spoken.

  2. I see a very divided country where nobody has a mandate for anything

    Which isn’t good for Britain, or for its friends. Anyone who takes pleasure in this is a fool

    And now you’re about to get a most unwelcome visitor, who will surely say things even more stupid than what he has already said on the matter of Brexit, Who could cause damage at a sensitive time

  3. Which isn’t good for Britain, or for its friends. Anyone who takes pleasure in this is a fool

    I agree Phantom. Brexit has polarised Britain like nothing before and nihilists like Pete are lapping it up. Have you read Donnie’s latest il informed horseshit:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48487973

  4. The fact of the matter is that the UK electorate elected 73 MEPs 39 of whom want to remain in the EU. The people have spoken.

    The referendum result was for Leave, and the people have spoken. Nonetheless, it’s good to have acknowledgement that ALL political parties in the UK were in favour of remaining in the EU. This is what democracy is: no difference in things of consequence. No wonder they are so busily overturning the ‘wrong’ result.

  5. The UK should rescind the invitation to trump

    His actions are not those of a friend- Regardless of where one stands on this issue

    His comments are far more meddlesome than those of Obama etc

  6. The referendum result was for Leave

    That was three years ago. The people have spoken and they have said remain.

  7. First Past The Post makes it difficult to predict the distribution of seats

    But Pete, you and the rest of the rightist gang hereabouts just love first past the post. Even though it stuffed UKIP in 2015 when 14% of the vote got them 1 MP and 52% of the vote in Scotland got the SNP 95% of the MPs.

    Have you changed your mind in favour of a fair voting system? If so, I think you should tell us.

  8. The referendum result was for Leave

    Indeed it was Allan, and it needs to be implemented. It will be totally open for the UK to have another referendum in a few years’ time or for a political party to win a general election on a promise to apply to re-join the EU.

    I believe it’s called democracy and we are lucky to enjoy it.

  9. Peter, what makes you think the UK would be accepted to re-join the EU?

  10. Who knows Paul? It’s almost certain that the UK would have to join the Euro currency as a condition of re-entry, so that would be a high hurdle to clear in either a general election or a referendum.

    My hunch is that if the UK leaves this year it will never re-join.

  11. If they ever get out they should never ever re-join.

    Yes Paul the people did speak they voted leave and their politicians have screwed them for what three years now?

  12. 6 weeks wasn’t enough time for the BBC et al to gear up to the “BREXIT party are evil racists”, schtick.

    There is plenty of time for that before the next election. The BBC will have full cooperation of the CONLAB party too.

  13. Indeed Peter and most thinking Brexiteers know this hence their ‘implement the referendum and then vote on it’ democratic facade. Once the precedent is set that’ll be it. It would however be poetic justice were Britain to leave and then vote to re-join, uro and all.

    If they ever get out they should never ever re-join

    And whay’s that Pat? What makes you as a Yank who’s never been to Europe or Britain hold such an extreme view?

  14. The first referendum result needs to be implemented. The Withdrawal Agreement is not an Agreement but a whole new treaty designed to keep the UK joined at the hip of the EU. That does not respect the referendum result.

    The nation is divided because the Establishment, politician and the media have, and keep telling, lies about the EU. First it was all about trade and not political, economic and monetary UNION. Now we are being told that Leaving the EU would damage ‘just’ the UK when, as finer minds will know, all parties will be affected to varying degrees. This is unavoidable but necessary for the UK to regain her sovereignty.

    IF and when we Leave the EU and become a fully independent nation, I believe after a short while the scare stories will be seen as just that – stories. Much like the CBI telling us that if we did not join the EURO we would face economic ruin. Didn’t happen although only Germany seems to have done well from it. Go figure !

  15. That graph, lemme see….

    Remain parties: 31, Leave parties: 27.

    Hmmmm, yes, it could be a close thing.

  16. And whay’s that Pat? What makes you as a Yank who’s never been to Europe or Britain hold such an extreme view?

    How long after Britain gets out do you think it will be before the EU collapses entirely 5-10 years?

    The EU has never been economically viable and when britain goes so goes 1/3 of the eu’s wealth.

  17. Besides Paul I remember when the EU was being formed one of the main arguments for creating it was to present a unified block of trade that could compete with the US.

    Why would I cheer that?

    not with all that dead weight in spain and greece did it ever have a chance, but that was one of the founding reasons for the eu i’m glad to see it fail.

  18. How long after Britain gets out do you think it will be before the EU collapses entirely 5-10 years?

    Pat, the EU will be here long after you and I are gone.

    Why would I cheer that?

    So your concern is for trade competition with the US rather than Britain’s political and economic stability? I thought you Free Market guys welcomed competition?

    I remember when the EU was being formed one of the main arguments for creating it was to present a unified block of trade that could compete with the US.

    That alone is a good enough reason to supoort the EU.

  19. Oh, and since we’re on the subject of trade, the real reason Trump’s cheering Brexit. Shilling for private insurance companies:

    Asked if the NHS was likely to form part of trade negotiations, Johnson told the BBC’s Andrew Marr Show: “I think the entire economy, in a trade deal, all things that are traded would be on the table.” Asked if that specifically meant healthcare, he said: “I would think so.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/02/us-wants-access-to-nhs-in-post-brexit-deal-ambassador-to-uk-says?fbclid=IwAR1c6Dfugfjsdxjp-hiecwUizv-jI2PX71L69OqD4VvMtVOX-6zRVLjs-4E

  20. Besides Paul I remember when the EU was being formed one of the main arguments for creating it was to present a unified block of trade that could compete with the US.

    Until the current imposter snuck in, it was always the policy of the US to strongly support the EEC / EU.

    The EU is a friend and an ally of the US. The normal relationship will reassert itself soon enough.

  21. We do welcome competition 1 on 1 fair and free trade a level p[laying field each company free to sell it’s goods world wide on an even playing field.

    No but you want to play 28 to 1 you call that fair trade?

  22. Paul 1255

    I was listening to UK radio ( LBC ) yesterday, and that subject came up.

    The NHS is exceptionally popular in the UK, as you would know. If British politicians, some chums of Trump such as Johnson/Farage try to break it up or privatize big chunks of it, they will be crucified at the polls.

    The complex US Mad Max healthcare system has zero attraction to the Brits.

  23. PVR 1258

    That’s a dopey way to frame it.

    You may as well say 50 to 28, it would make as much sense.

  24. They are not states Phantom they are sovereign countries.

  25. They may well be Phantom but the irreversible damage will be done.

    LBC is quite simply the best current affairs station on the net.

    The EU is a friend and an ally of the US. The normal relationship will reassert itself soon enough.

    I agree. Genuine question here, why is there so much antipathy shown to the EU from the US? Is it because of what Pat says regarding trade competition? Any American I know living here is is strongly pro EU and love the idea that they can travel around Europe unhindered, (and get medical treatment in any EU country to).

    No but you want to play 28 to 1 you call that fair trade?

    Well, aren’t people like you always (mistakenly) telling us that the EU member states have no soveriegnty and are no longer nations? Now all of a sudden is crying about how 28 member states of the EU is unfair in trade terms to 50 states of the US?

    I think your idea of an ‘even playing field’ is one where the US owns the ball.

  26. and if you’re going to count them as one country well then we are really going to have to reevaluate NATO

  27. You already know what the “level playing field” is for the Trumpers. Woody Johnson, on sabbatical from running the worst football team in the NFL to become the Ambassador of the United States to the Court of St James’s (which is a far cooler title than a moron like Woody Johnson deserves), has already admitted that a UK/US trade deal would involve the UK lowering standards on things like irradiated beef, chlorinated chicken etc, and the privatisation of the National Health Service. That is their “level playing field”.

  28. “They are not states Phantom they are sovereign countries.”

    Who have decided for the purposes of trade to act as a single body.

    “and if you’re going to count them as one country well then we are really going to have to reevaluate NATO”

    The EU has nothing to do with NATO. Parts of the EU is in NATO, parts are not.

  29. Paul they can be 28 or they can be 1 I could care less it’s just a tv tragedy from over here. No matter what format you take a group or individuals you can’t compete against us because you still cling to socialist/communist systems no matter how badly they fail and you show no signs of letting them go.

    you can’t compete with the american or the japanese mind set of business.

  30. If you’re going to count them as one country well then we are really going to have to reevaluate NATO

    But you’re the one who tells us they’re no longer independant, sovereign nations? Make up your mind.

  31. I see some things differently, but am not openly hostile to it as some are. I think that the legit criticisms that can be made of the EU is that it does too much, is too fat a bureaucracy, and that it may have expanded too far to the East.

    But the EU is a big net positive to the US, not a negative. I’d think that 90% of those in US business and diplomacy would say the same.

    The Trump amen chorus here are just parroting what Trump and UK based anti EU commentators say on this one. They don’t question any of this ” EUSSR ” malarkey for a minute. All that stuff is completely unhelpful.

  32. You can’t compete against us because you still cling to socialist/communist systems no matter how badly they fail and you show no signs of letting them go.

    The EU is doing very well in terms of trade, thanks.

  33. Japan has universal health care for 100% of its citizens and permanent residents.

    And Japan has not been doing particularly well in business over the past 10-15 years.

    The Americans and Koreans have completely cleaned their clock in tech.

  34. There is zero ” communism ” in the EU.

    That’s all baby talk.

  35. I think that the legit criticisms that can be made of the EU is that it does too much, is too fat a bureaucracy

    I think that most people in favour of the EU, including me, would make the same criticisms.

    That it may have expanded too far to the East.

    I’d be of the opinion that any country which is 100% on the European continent should have the possibility of joing the EU.

  36. I do business with a lot of people whose companies operate in Europe.

    Never once heard one of them criticize the EU, or felt that they were treated unfairly by it.

    American business people very much like doing business in Ireland, the UK, and Germany, where they are welcomed and treated fairly.

    Now France? That’s a different matter.

  37. And not for nothing-

    American companies very much like the fact that when they operate in Canada, Europe, or Japan that they don’t have to organize employee health care – that’s already been taken care of.

    In the US, businesses have a major renegotiation of employee health care coverage every year – a major pain in the ass and expense. No such think in the evil EU.

  38. Chums of Trump such as Johnson/Farage

    Here’s a spot on analysis of the Nige from the NYC Phantom:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/28/opinion/nigel-farage-brexit.html?fbclid=IwAR2RU0krtVQHzyvmvGgh_KUoeviAFrfnQzpwGNtVBnQ53blCV_a0k1KTsOA

  39. The British Trump pom pom brigade here have said nothing about Trump’s gross disrespect to the British government, his barstool analysis of what how they should have negotiated differently with the EU, etc. at this sensitive hour for the UK, etc.

  40. The EU has more consumers than the US and is an ally. There is very little hostility to the EU in the US. It is seen as a mutually beneficial relationship.

    Trump is primarily in Europe this week for photo ops. He is making typically moronic remarks. He had to use a helicopter to get to Buckingham Palace rather than a motorcade as Obama did because he is so loved by the British people!

  41. Compare the British people’s reaction to Trump to the reaction of Canadians to Barack Obama last night.

    https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nba-finals-2019-obama-mvp-ovation

  42. //The EU has never been economically viable and when britain goes so goes 1/3 of the eu’s wealth//

    If the EU has never been economically viable, it’s strange that it’s continued for so long.

    And as for that UK 1/3. Even with the UK in the EU, the four countries Germany, France, Italy and Spain still make up around 55 % of its total GDP. The UK accounts for 16 pc, just 1 pc more than France.

    // it may have expanded too far to the East. //

    Romania is now the biggest source of immigration into Germany. I heard just yesterday that the Romanian population in Berlin has incresed by 500 percent in the past ten years.
    Romanians can also be found in large numbers in every other western country in the EU. By far the majority of immigrants are young people.

    There was major population growth in R under Ceausescu (he imposed a total ban on contraception and abortion, except for a few exceptions like women over 45! And, no, he wasn’t a pious Catholic), but still you have to wonder if there are any people left there and how the economy can continue with so many of the working population gone.

  43. What makes you as a Yank who’s never been to Europe or Britain hold such an extreme view?

    I can’t wait for Paul to discover what the IRA was all about. It’ll blow his socks off.

    The British Trump pom pom brigade here have said nothing about Trump’s gross disrespect to the British government ..

    We have jobs to do, unlike the workshy commies in here. I can assure you that Trump can get in the queue if he wants to be disrespectful to the British government.

    If the EU has never been economically viable, it’s strange that it’s continued for so long.

    It was only formed in 1993. The Eurozone in 1999. In that short space of time the EU has been the worst performing economic area on the planet and condemned scores of millions to poverty and permanent unemployment.

    The Soviet Union lasted 70 years. The EU won’t even match that, no matter how many of you want to be governed by foreigners.

  44. //I can’t wait for Paul to discover what the IRA was all about. It’ll blow his socks off//

    What an incredibly bizarre commebt.

    Pete, like Pat and I the EU will be here long after you’re gone. As a matter of fact, the way things are going I’d wager the big union will exist long after the smaller one.

  45. The English were never emotionally all in as respects the EU

    Much of the rest of Europe are very much is in support of it, emotionally and intellectually.

    Based on the above, I think that a reformed EU will be around for a very long time.

  46. Seems i need to spell it out.

    Paul –

    PVR said that the UK ought to be and remain a sovereign, independent and self-governing country. You think this is “such an extreme view”.

    What happened to you lot? The left was once in favour of self-determination. Now you die in a ditch for globalists.

  47. Pete Moore praising the IRA as liberators??? My oh my, this Brexit thing really has caused a political realignment.

  48. Pete Moore also will continue to praise an imperial US president who mocks the British government and who meddles in British internal and external affairs.

    He’s a great patriot, if you define patriot as a Trumper.

  49. Like most of the ultra right Pete is whatever’s expedient for the moment and what’s good today was bad yesterday and may well be great / detestable tomorrow.

    Have to admire his brass neck in destroying whatever integrity he had though.

  50. An awful lot of the support for Trump among Americans and American wannabees is personality driven.

    Trump is the ” bad boy ” who always gets away with it, they love that in him, they wish that they were him. He is the perfect human being to them.

  51. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/tale-invoices-beto-orourke-pays-el-paso-donald/story?id=63350337

    A tale of 2 invoices: Beto O’Rourke pays El Paso, while Donald Trump’s campaign still owes $470,000

    Beto and Trump appeared in El Paso for campaign stops. The city billed the campaigns for the services rendered to the campaigns.

    The bills came due for both. Beto For America owed the city $28,630.50 for his March campaign launch; he had already paid $7,609.14 of that as a deposit. The remainder was due May 24. They paid on time — just under the wire — with a check dated the day prior to the deadline.

    El Paso also billed Donald J. Trump for President Inc. for his “Make America Great Again” rally — for nearly half a million dollars. The invoice was sent to the campaign’s Fifth Avenue offices in New York on March 27. It was due April 26, and El Paso has yet to see a dime.

    Once a chiseler, always a chiseler.

  52. An awful lot of the support for Trump among Americans and American wannabees is personality driven.

    Really? I doubt that Trump will survive this betrayal

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/02/laid-off-gm-workers-in-ohio-fed-up-with-ruling-class-nobody-has-our-backs/

    Middle-class Americans whose livelihoods have been thrown off course after being laid off by General Motors (GM) in Lordstown, Ohio, are fed up with the country’s political and business ruling class in Washington, DC.

    For months, the community of Lordstown has had to grapple with GM closing the region’s assembly plant, which has resulted in the immediate layoff of about 1,600 American workers, and since 2017, GM has laid off about 4,500 American workers in Ohio.

    The GM plant closure is also expected to leave more than 8,000 American workers jobless in and around Lordstown as well as cut out about $8 billion in economic activity in the area. Already, more than 900 workers in supporting industries have been put out of work.

    At the same time, GM has announced that it will manufacture a slew of new vehicles in South Korea, while GM CEO Mary Barra still plans on idling three other American manufacturing plants — two in Michigan and one in Maryland.

    Trump said that he would build a wall to keep out wage-cutting invaders, and he would get manufacturing back in the US with US corporations. GM has had a lot of taxpayer money, and the $22 million p.a. CEO throws Americans out of work. Trump could have stopped this: he chose not to do so.

  53. Trump can’t stop a plant from closing.

    He would like to be a dictator, but he is not.

    The Lordstown plant made vehicles that weren’t very popular.

  54. The Lordstown plant made vehicles that weren’t very popular.

    and the vehicles which GM intends to make in Korea to be imported into the US could have been made at the Lordstown plant. This is an example of a corporation participating in economic and societal vandalism – but it doesn’t affect Phantom……

    https://www.autonews.com/article/20181128/OEM/181129721/trump-is-asking-agencies-to-look-at-gm-subsidy-cuts

    WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump has asked federal agencies to look for ways to cut subsidies to General Motors following the automaker’s plans to close factories and lay off thousands of workers, said a person familiar with his instructions.

    Trump said in a tweet Tuesday that his administration is “looking at cutting all @GM subsidies,” including tax breaks for the purchase of electric cars. But a change in the tax break would require action by Congress.

    This is madness – GM should have all subsidies removed and tariffs placed on all imported vehicles which should have been made in the US

  55. Korea is not a particularly low wage nation any more. They’d be of a wage and standard of living that is very similar to many European nations.

    The main problem is that the plant made the Cruze, a compact car. Not enough Americans want compact cars these days. Koreans mainly drive compacts, so centralizing that production in Korea does make sense.

    There is talk of another manufacturer moving to Lordstown in the same site. Even if that happens, it will still be a very tough blow for Lordstown.

  56. – but it doesn’t affect Phantom……

    Listen you jabbering meth head, I am only trying to explain the other person’s point of view.

    I’ve been to that part of Ohio, and I take no joy in the closure.

  57. Listen you jabbering meth head, I am only trying to explain the other person’s point of view.

    “the other person” – are you schizophrenic or something? When one engages in debate, one explains one’s own views. So who is this other person whose views you know so well?

  58. If you ever want to understand any issue, you seek to understand the why people do what they do, not just throw accusations at them.

    I tried to understand why GM took that action.

    A position that unfortunately makes business sense.

  59. That model of car has gone down in sales four years in a row- almost 50% down over four years.

    And it was not very profitable four years go.

    So of course, your answer is to keep doing what you’ve been doing.

    http://gmauthority.com/blog/gm/chevrolet/cruze/chevrolet-cruze-sales-numbers/

  60. Phantom – GM is a US-based and taxpayer-subsidised corporation. If gutting the industrial base of the US makes ‘business sense’ then Trump and Congress should ensure that it does not, by removing subsidies and imposing tariffs on ‘fugitive products’ i.e. products which could and should have been made in the US but were offshored for immediate gain to execs and owners.

  61. GM remains a huge US employer

    There were about $51 billion in auto exports -from- the US, and a significant number of them were GM cars. To Canada and to other countries as well. You aren’t thinking about that.

    GM recently announced $700 mm in capex in three other Ohio plants – you didn’t mention that either.

    We’re entering a time of even greater change in autos, as we’re about to enter the age when electric cars and autonomous cars become commonplace.

    GM doesn’t want to be the slow moving and dumb company that they were, they’re trying to be one of those that remain leaders 20 years from now.

    That’s what they’re trying to do. Trump doesn’t know the first thing about how cars are made. He has harmed the US car and motorcycle industry by jacking up the price of the steel that they buy and you guys all thought that was just so clever.

  62. Alan the only obligation a company has is to it’s stock holders and that’s to make profit. If they make more profit by building in s korea than that is the people in Ohio’s fault.

    There are risks we just started beating up Mexico for not doing it’s job. GM and Ford make a lot of parts in Mexico besides full vehicles. Those parts and vehicles will be will cost the companies more now because they located their plants in Mexico.

    That choice is going to cost them money.

  63. I don’t blame the Ohio workers at all. They weren’t making a fortune, no one is saying that they weren’t doing a good job.

    But this was a plant that was stuck making a type of vehicle that had become unpopular in the US.

    Something had to change.

  64. https://cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/chevrolet/cruze

    The Cruze is an unsexy car, but a reliable car at a good price.

    But the American consumer didn’t buy enough of them.

  65. why would they….. chevy should have just cut the line and tried a new model.

  66. They could retool and make these……

    https://www.oldcars.site/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/1957-chevrolet-bel-air-convertible-1.jpg

    they wouldn’t be able to keep up with the demand.

  67. The Cruze spec says that it has roomy seats, roomy trunk and gets great mileage.

    But it looks very cookie cutter, bland.

  68. it’s a frigging little box…… no appeal but very economical

  69. nice gun free city……

    At least 52 people were shot, eight of them fatally, across Chicago over the weekend, the most violent of the year as summer gets underway, with a toll even higher than during the long Memorial Day holiday just a week earlier.

  70. Last week 116 Africans were caught in a group going under a section of old fence.

    That was the headline, what they didn’t say was it was 116 people from a specific region that is currently suffering an ebola outbreak. Cause that’s where they were from.

  71. A group of illegals from Angola, Cameroon and Congo waded across the Rio Grande River and into the United States, video from Customs and Border Protection shows.

    The video shows male and female adults walking through the water and into Texas, several with children on their shoulders.

    http://www.theamericanmirror.com/video-first-large-group-from-africa-wades-across-rio-grande-into-us/

  72. hmm

    The email server has no 302s or paperwork recorded on key interviews… drip drip drip

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/fbi-sought-to-expeditiously-grant-hillary-clinton-lawyers-request-for-info-before-2016-election

  73. a good story about Thomas

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/03/politics/clarence-thomas-retirement-rumors/index.html

  74. WE SAID THIS WOULD HAPPEN

    ……or maybe not.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48532869

    As said previously, MEP elections are traditionally seen as a safe way to protest vote against the government without letting the mooncats get their hans on the reins of national power.

  75. I heard that the Brexit Party doesn’t even have a platform apart from leaving the EU?

  76. That kinda makes sense in terms of Brexit Phantom – vote for us and we’ll fill in the policy details after the election.

  77. Or Trump on health care

    The policy for every complex issue is to wing it

  78. Phantom –

    The party was launched two months ago to contest the European elections and to give Leavers a home for that election. The party is now a permanent fixture and other policies will be developed. But until we out from under foreign rule, Brexit is really the only game in town.

  79. Wait until you see the terms of a US / UK trade agreement with the US holding all the cards Pete. Then you’ll know what foreign rule really is.

  80. I hope for a solution that everyone can live with, but I’m still not seeing it.

  81. Paul –

    What is this ignorant bullshit?

    Wait until you see the terms of a US / UK trade agreement with the US holding all the cards Pete.

    An independent British government can say “no thank you” if a deal does not suit. Relative size is irrelevant. It’s like saying that Long Island is disadvanted because the NY economy is bigger. It’s nonsense. Not only does Washington have zero power – none whatsoever – to impose a disadvantageous deal on the UK, it has plenty of bauble to give away to get what it wants.

    There’s something else which people like you never get. It’s that trade benefits both parties in the deal. When trade is willingly done it’s because both parties will be better off. Once this is grasped, you see that the possibilities are endless.

  82. “An independent British government can say “no thank you” if a deal does not suit.”

    So can a British government in the EU. I guess that means they are already independent.

  83. If Trump was a friend, he’d offer you identical trade terms to what the US has with the EU.

    He’s not offering that.

    He wants you to weaken your food safety rules, etc.

  84. Ignorant bullshit Pete?:

    Our position is very strong.

    We know that the two-year clock starts ticking when Article 50 is triggered. We do that and wait for them to agree to our terms. As the clock counts down they will become more panicky. German industry will get heavy on Berlin. In the end we get our way.

    If President Trump backs us up, by the time we finish Brussels will be paying for the wall.

    Who said that?

    The innocent, child-like naivety shown in this thread is touching:

    http://www.atangledweb.org/?p=64059

    Wait until Trump’s telling you what you can or can’t eat, how you middle classes are going to have to re mortage their house if they get ill. You’ll know what real foreign rule is then. As someone, (smcgif?) said earlier in the week, more Puerto Rico that Rhode Island.

  85. If Trump was a friend, he’d offer you identical trade terms to what the US has with the EU.

    Why? We don’t export humus or olive oil. We want something which suits us.

    Paul –

    My position is absolutely correct. German industry is panicky and sorry that May won’t be around for much longer.

  86. My position is absolutely correct

    Oh Jesus. Tears of laughter are literally on my cheeks 🙂

  87. The US wants you to lower your food safety standards