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“THE NHS IS NOT FOR SALE”

By Pete Moore On June 5th, 2019

“Cough”

Tony Blair today welcomed 11 private healthcare providers into the “NHS family”, as he promised them the chance to gain a stronger foothold in the NHS.

Predicting that the private sector would soon provide up to 40% of NHS operations, Mr Blair said the independent providers could help drive up the quality of service to patients which he said was the “most important thing”.

“By 2008 we could have as much as 40% of acute operations done in the private sector being done under the NHS banner,” he told health bosses.

The Bolsheviks went mad yesterday at the idea of those ghastly Americans supplying NHS services. Why oh why should the NHS buy a packet of Aspirin for pennies when it can pay hundreds of times more, as it does now?

The truth is that about 6 per cent of NHS services are supplied by private parties, and most of them were outsourced under Labour governments.

10 Responses to ““THE NHS IS NOT FOR SALE””

  1. Why oh why should the NHS buy a packet of Aspirin for pennies when it can pay hundreds of times more, as it does now?

    No Pete, it is precisely the reverse. US Big Pharma Inc is constantly whining about the low prices they get from the NHS and even worse, because the NHS is such a large purchaser it keeps drugs prices down across all big pharma suppliers. That’s what Trump wants to attack on behalf of his Big Pharma pals, not the outsourced services.

  2. Peter

    Correct.

    As the hugely dominant purchaser of meds in the UK, the NHS has exceptional leverage in negotiations with the drug companies.

    And you don’t allow prescription drug companies to advertise on the telly to hype up demand for strong drug either ( those ads are legal in the US )

  3. Pete hates the NHS. He hates the working man, woman and child that can’t afford new shoes.

  4. Peter –

    You have it the wrong way round.

    https://www.theweek.co.uk/81055/nhs-paying-up-to-1bn-too-much-for-drugs-says-report

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/drug-prices-nhs-wastes-30m-a-year-paying-too-much-for-unlicensed-drugs-kv9kr5m8p

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42063274

    Not only does the NHS not use its leverage. It appears to go out of its way to vastly overpay for drugs. Yes, I strongly suspect kickback corruption in many cases.

  5. https://www.drugwatch.com/featured/us-drug-prices-higher-vs-world/

  6. Pete

    I did not say that the NHS does not get ripped off by Big Pharma, because it certainly does in some cases. But in most cases it can beat down the drug prices which is why Big Pharma is constantly whining. There is a good case for taking drugs R&D away from them completely because they are so conflicted. We desparately need new antibiotics, but none of them are interested because there is more immediate profit to be made from heart drugs and anti-aging drugs etc.

    But a “free trade deal” on Trump’s terms will mean many more rip-offs, i.e. the transfer of UK taxes to US Big Pharma to help finance the boondoggle of massive executive salaries, massive executive bonuses, massive dividends and massive share buy-backs. But I guess you would be a cheerleader for all that because it would be the “free market” in action. Way to go!

  7. The NHS does drugs R&D?

  8. And a Labour peer went on to chair G4S who supply ambulance services to the same NHS.

    The NHS, like most government services, is just one giant cash cow for unions, cronies of the government and large corporates. There is no way they are going to allow others to muscle their way into the trough.

  9. Mark B

    But the NHS and UK gets very good prices for drugs, often about 1/3 of what is paid in the US for the same meds.

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-the-u-s-pays-3-times-more-for-drugs/

    Your total medical costs per person is significantly less than in peer nations France and Germany and is less than 50% than that of the US

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_health_expenditure_per_capita

    Your average life expectancy is about two years longer than that in the US
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

    By what measurable standard is the UK/NHS doing things wrong Be as specific as you like please.

  10. And a Labour peer went on to chair G4S who supply ambulance services to the same NHS

    I assume you’re referring to Geoffrey Filkin who became a Non-executive Director of Serco in 2008? Serco began sub contracting to the NHS under the John Major Conservative government’s Private Finance Initiative implemented in 1992. From Serco’s own website:

    Proudly working in partnership with the NHS for over twenty five years

    https://www.serco.com/uk/sector-expertise/healthcare

    The NHS, like most government services, is just one giant cash cow for unions, cronies of the government and large corporates

    The irony with that claim of course is that if semi – privatisation of the NHS dodn’t exist then there wouldn’t be opportunities for the private sector to exploit.