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SCRUTON ON NATIONAL IDENTITY, THE EU AND THE LEGACY OF COMMUNISM

By Pete Moore On June 10th, 2019

“After thirty years of confusion the people of Eastern and central Europe are beginning to understand that they are heirs to two great achievements: on the one hand, the nation state as a form of social and political identity; on the other hand the Enlightenment conception of citizenship, in which each assumes the full responsibilities of social membership under a shared rule of law. The two achievements are forced into conflict with each other, in part because the EU wishes to dampen or even destroy the national idea. But properly understood they are mutually dependent. And this is the task now facing us all, and you in particular. We must recognise that, without national identity and the loyalty that stems from it, there is no way to build a society of citizens.

Democracy and the rule of law are realities only if opposing sides can live with each other on terms. The great error of the communists was to eliminate opposition, to conscript the people into a ‘unity’ that they had not chosen and were not allowed to question. The great benefit of democracy is that it makes opposition possible and also legitimate. But this has the consequence that, in a democracy, more than half the people at any moment might be living under a government that they did not choose, maybe a government that they hate. What makes that possible? Why do democracies not break down, under the pressure of popular dissent? The answer is simple: they don’t break down because the loyalty of the citizen is not towards the government, but towards something higher, something that is shared between all the citizens, regardless of their political beliefs and inclinations.

This higher thing is the nation, the entity to which we all belong, and which defines the first-person plural of democratic politics. Without this shared ‘we’ it is impossible for democracies to endure, and it is precisely by destroying this ‘we’ that the communists were able to retain their grip on power, ruling as a pure ‘they’ of dictatorship.”

An extract of a speech given last week in Poland, by the great conservative philosopher and anti-communist hero Sir Roger Scruton, to the Polish Parliament. It’s a splendid speech and I recommend it to all. It’s just a shame that while his are the wise words which our parliamentarians need to hear, the Tories wouldn’t be seen anyone near him. When Sir Roger was callously defamed by a grubby left wing hack, Tories lined up to sack and criticise him.

By contrast, last week Sir Roger was awarded Poland’s highest civilian honour for foreigners by President Andrzej Duda.

12 Responses to “SCRUTON ON NATIONAL IDENTITY, THE EU AND THE LEGACY OF COMMUNISM”

  1. He wasn’t defamed. His views, that he has articulated, were repeated back to him, as you have done so tonight.

  2. As well as standing up to the tsunami of shit that is engulfing the more ‘sophisticated’ countries of Europe, Poland is resisting the electro-toxin of 5G……

    https://www.activistpost.com/2019/06/prime-minister-of-poland-signs-global-appeal-to-stop-5g.html

    In what is surely an unprecedented and groundbreaking action, the Prime Minister of Poland, Mateusz Morawiecki, has personally backed an International Appeal to stop the controversial roll-out of 5G electromagnetic microwave telecommunication transmissions.

    5G, a new millimetre band frequency range being introduced by the telecommunications industry worldwide has been identified by over 2,000 scientists and 1,400 medical doctors from all over the world, as presenting a direct threat to human health, as well as to animal, insect and plant life.

    There have been no safety tests carried out to ensure its safety, in spite of the fact that 5G operates at between 10 and 100 times higher frequencies than current 3 and 4G cell phone tower transmitters.

    5G will ruin insect life, then pollination fails and it’s collapse of the world of plants.

  3. Seamus –

    The New Statesman hack did repeat Scruton’s own words back to him, but misrepresented the exchange publicly.

    A New Statesman old hand reviews the affair –

    https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2019/05/scruton-affair

    Eaton was clearly at fault in his Instagram post. A journalist should not interview a subject and then insult him or her. One tweet – concerning Scruton’s comments on the Chinese as “replicas of each other” – was misleading. Both the published interview and the full transcript make clear, as the tweet did not, that Scruton was criticising the policies of China’s rulers (“they’re creating robots out of their own people”) rather than echoing racist stereotypes.

    The other tweets took words somewhat out of context as many (perhaps most) tweets of that sort inevitably do. Whether Scruton’s words were “outrageous”, as Eaton claimed, depends on who is reading them. MPs, former chancellors and present ministers can make up their own minds. Yet Eaton’s use of the adjective “outrageous” suggested, as did the Instagram post, that he approached the interview as a political activist, not as a journalist.

    The grubby was demoted. So let’s leave him and concentrate on Sir Roger’s powerful speech, yes?

  4. Given the level of anti Semitism in Poland which has made headlines over the last number of years it’s maybe unsurprising that they would honour a promoter of anti Semitic theories like Scruton.

  5. Given the level of anti Semitism in Poland……

    Sure Paul – it’s nothing to do with jews’ bad behaviour:

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/polish-far-right-protests-protests-us-law-on-jewish-holocaust-restitution/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    WARSAW, Poland — Thousands of Polish nationalists marched to the US Embassy in Warsaw Saturday, protesting that the US is putting pressure on Poland to compensate Jews whose families lost property during the Holocaust.

    Not content with extorting £billions from Germany and the on-going $billions from their control of the US, jewry now tries the same shakedown on Poland, but there’s a major problem with doing that – the ‘death camps’ are in Poland and all the Poles need to do is allow full excavation of the sites. The Poles stopped Richard Kriege’s ground-penetrating radar examination when it revealed………no evidence of burials nor cremations. It might be time to fire up the diggers 🙂

    Am I allowed to use the word ‘digger’?

  6. Yes – once those millions of holoco$t survivors sniff money, there’s no stopping them:

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-book-on-killing-of-jews-in-poland-exposes-raw-nerve/

    JERUSALEM — A prominent Polish historian presented evidence Wednesday about Polish villagers’ widespread killing of Jews fleeing Nazis during World War II, touching a raw nerve in a country still grappling with its role during the Holocaust.

    The research is likely to irk the nationalist Polish government, which has taken aim at those seeking to undermine its official stance that Poles were only heroes in the war, not collaborators who committed heinous crimes.

    https://www.dw.com/en/poland-and-israel-at-odds-over-holocaust-restitution/a-48724524

    Speaking at a press conference in Warsaw, United States Secretary of State Mike Pompeo called for “complex legislation on the restitution of private property” of Polish Jews. Under the recently adopted JUST (Justice for Uncompensated Survivors Today) Act 447, the US government is required to inform Congress about the progress countries are making concerning restitution legislation following the Terezin Declaration.

    So the Polish nationalists were correct to have a demo outside the US Embassy because the US is Israel’s agent. If the holoco$t survivors have received money from Germany, why are they pursuing Poland, and how many holoco$t survivors are there? The Polish ‘far-right’ say that the jews are wanting $300 billion

    Even before it was passed, the US law sparked protests in Poland. Polish nationalists demonstrated in front of the US embassy in Warsaw in 2018, chanting “the Jews will not get any money from the Poles.” The National Radical Camp, or ONR, a far-right extremist group, has claimed that there is more than $300 billion (€267 billion) “the Jews plan to steal from Poland.”

  7. Anyway, I’ve got this ‘theory’ – and I emphasise that it’s only a theory – that jews are intending to use the US as a lever to shake a lot of money out of Poland. I offer no evidence whatsoever.

    On the holoco$t, we can’t say that we weren’t warned. Jewish media in the US and UK had been telling us for decades about the forthcoming 6,000,000 and holocaust:

    https://i.ibb.co/7XgsY0k/1-CF634-C9-983-E-46-C1-B3-E8-E3-F127336000.jpg

  8. Paul McMahon,
    //Given the level of anti Semitism in Poland which has made headlines over the last number of years it’s maybe unsurprising that they would honour a promoter of anti Semitic theories like Scruton.//

    You’re absolutely spot on with this comment Paul. I can confirm first hand, having lived in Poland for more than a couple of years, that anti-semitism, I’m sad to say, is rife there.

  9. 5G will ruin insect life

    Chemical farming has already done that Allan. Insect numbers have crashed on every continent in the past 40 years and bird numbers have also crashed as a result. The decline in bees is especially worrying.

    “Without a shade of doubt, bees – and other pollinators – are essential to our life on Earth. Bees alone are responsible for about one-third of the food we eat. According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, honeybees contribute with $15 billion annually in value to American crops…”

    https://www.greenandgrowing.org/bee-population-decline-facts/

  10. the same thing that hit the bee’s a few years ago is now devastating the bat population.

  11. I’ve seen a number of reports saying that bees in North America are recovering nicely

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-01/good-news-for-bees-as-numbers-recover-while-mystery-malady-wanes

  12. yeah they are on a come back. They’ve identified similarities to the hive collapses and the same fungus that’s hitting the bats. The fact that bee’s are recovering has given them hope about the bats.

    At the same time giving a worry that the ailment may be a fungus that has no problem crossing species.