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IT’S TRUMP’S FAULT AGAIN

By Pete Moore On June 26th, 2019

An El Salvadorian father and his two year old daughter drowned in the Rio Grande. The Left hasn’t been so excited since a Syrian boy drowned in the Med. Yep, showing images of dead children is all the rage again. It’s Trump’s fault of course. A Beto O’Rourke says so. Apparently the president is to blame for a man’s reckless decision to cross the open, undefended southern border, the other end of Mexico from his homeland.

I dunno, maybe put the lid back on the jar. That might quell the temptation to get the goodies.

 

60 Responses to “IT’S TRUMP’S FAULT AGAIN”

  1. Trump has enough failings and misdeeds that one should not, as O’Rourke did, blame him for things that are not his fault.

  2. Crises at the border? What crisis?

  3. This isn’t Trump’s fault.

    Beto is an empty suit. He needs to drop out of the race already, and find something that he’s good at.

  4. If you make it harder for people to cross the border (whatever the intentions, positive or negative, behind that) and you won’t actually stop them crossing the border. You’ll just make it harder for them.

  5. well as a matter of ecological balance there are alligators from Florida to North Carolina and then again all the way over in Louisiana I propose we populate the waters in Texas Arizona and New Mexico with the pretty little creatures

    And where there’s no water minefields the bouncing baseball kind…..

    crossing would stop overnight.

  6. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gWmV2Dh5LKs/hqdefault.jpg

  7. A wall, like El Paso has, has dramatically cut crossings, at this point by shifting thee migration to undefended areas. But if the entire thing was walled, illegal migration would have to go down.

  8. you mean if we put a wall it will slow down the invading horde…… nah you jest

  9. Seamus

    So I guess we should make it easier for them?

    Offer Uber service at no charge?

  10. “So I guess we should make it easier for them?”

    It would be the humanitarian thing to do. Making it harder for them clearer isn’t deterring them. Its just killing them instead.

  11. No it would be an anti humanitarian thing to do

    It would increase the numbers

  12. But we’re not making it harder: it’s very easy in fact. At our beautiful detention centers, they get better than what they came from.

  13. “It would increase the numbers”

    There is no evidence that making things good or bad on the Rio Grande has any impact on the number of immigrants coming. The major thing that causes immigration to the United States is the conditions in the countries they are coming from. If El Salvador is bad, and it is easy to get into the United States, then they will try to go to the United States. If El Salvador is bad, and it is difficult to get into the United States, then they will try to go to the United States. There is no evidence making it easier for people to cross the border leads to increased immigration.

    “But we’re not making it harder: it’s very easy in fact. “

    All immigrants claiming asylum have to wait in Mexico while their claims are processed, which can literally take years. As such it has been made more difficult for them to do it via the legal route so they are going to try it the illegal route.

  14. We need for congress to be held in a baseball field in Texas until they fix this legislative “Manufactured Crises”

    What’s the Temp in El Paso Charles?

  15. Right now it’s 95 degrees Patrick.

  16. yeah but it’s a dry heat…… they’ll be just fine.

  17. you mean if we put a wall it will slow down the invading horde

    Yes Patrick. Better still, let’s get the Spics to pay for it.

    Oh wait…

  18. Pull every American troop out of Europe along with our equipment and put them on the southern border….. let the EU Army defend them while we protect our own borders…..

  19. I was talking to a soldier from Fort Hood that has been deployed to the border at Del Rio. He says they have to keep a low profile and provide “logistics” to the Border Patrol Agents.

    So soldiers are on the border spreading concertina wire, but there’s not enough of them.

  20. Soldiers can’t police the border. It is illegal in the United States.

  21. Seamus, you better tell that to the soldiers on the border. Gov. Abbott just sent 1,000 TX National Guard troops to El Paso border stations for backup, and is sending the bill to the Feds.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/texas-governor-greg-abbott-sending-more-national-guard-troops-to-us-mexico-border-today-2019-06-21/

  22. The US Military cannot undertake civilian law enforcement at the beheast of the federal government due to the Posse Comitatus Act. The Act does not prevent the National Guard from acting, under direction from the governor, in a law enforcement capacity within its home state.

  23. The National Guards have a very cozy relationship with the military. As you may remember during the recent wars National Guards were “federalized” and mobilized to the war front.

  24. Indeed.

    Though the National Guard can’t be federalised for the purposes of civilian law enforcement. So Greg Abbott can send the National Guard to help police the southern border. Donald Trump can’t.

  25. screw it convene the Rangers and order them to seal the border

    3 months of blood and it’ll be done.

  26. So when Gov. Abbott says he is sending the bill to the Federal Government, it sounds like a porkie!

  27. 😉

  28. “screw it convene the Rangers and order them to seal the border”

    If you mean the Texas Rangers good luck sealing the border outside of Texas. If you mean the Army Rangers that would be illegal.

    “So when Gov. Abbott says he is sending the bill to the Federal Government, it sounds like a porkie!”

    I imagine he probably couldn’t force DOD to pay for it. However I would imagine that this is Trump’s way of getting round the Posse Comitatus Act and so DOD probably volunteered to fund it.

  29. Texas Rangers could be given special dispensation over the border as an extension of their jurisdiction.

  30. The problem is the only thing that’s going to solve the crises at the border is about a billion dollars worth of beds blankets and barb wire….

  31. “Texas Rangers could be given special dispensation over the border as an extension of their jurisdiction.”

    By who?

    “The problem is the only thing that’s going to solve the crises at the border is about a billion dollars worth of beds blankets and barb wire….”

    No the only thing that is going to solve the crisis at the border is a substantial increase in legal immigration, and the money and resources need to clear the backlog in immigration cases.

    That and substantial action to improve the economies and legal systems of Latin American countries, primarily El Salvador.

  32. Well, it’s time for me siesta!

  33. we don’t need to increase crap… you take em…. You got a skill Jose? You a Doctor, Lawyer, Engineer ???? come on in…. you gots no skill go home and get one and try when you have mastered something.

  34. “we don’t need to increase crap… you take em…. You got a skill Jose? You a Doctor, Lawyer, Engineer ???? come on in…. you gots no skill go home and get one and try when you have mastered something.”

    You don’t need to do those things. However if you don’t thing this is still going to be a problem for 10, 20, 30 years etc… So you can either develop solutions or you can bitch about it from the sidelines.

  35. Immigration once was considered a good thing in the US. Everyone is an immigrant or of immigrant ancestors. Immigrants were seen as a strength of the US. Trump has turned immigration into a debacle. Instead of working for good immigration laws and procedures, he has used immigration to fire up his base. Trump is responsible for the debacle that is immigration today and by extension he shares blame for the death that ensue from his demented policies.

    Previous administrations sought to address the cause of central American immigration by programs in Guatemala, El Salvador, Hondurans and other Central American countries. The logic was that if conditions are improved in those countries people will not leave them. Logic is not something Trump bothers about. Instead of addressing the cause he chose to confront the effects which has resulted in the current disaster at the border.

    It is an actual fact that the US needs immigrants to sustain our labor market. Trump does not seem to care about that and looks the other way when employers use illegal immigrants. Trump himself has hired illegal immigrants.

    History proves it is near impossible to stop migrations of people seeking a better life. Instead of taking advantage of that reality Trump has turned it into the present debacle. This is but one more example of what goes wrong when a country has a stupid and inhumane clown as president.

  36. Trump isn’t trying to stop immigration. You forgot that.

  37. NYr so the 20-40 million illegals that have come here while we gave billions to the crap holes to improve yet still they came and came by the millions so what was it we didn’t pay them enough to stay where the hell they were I guess how many more billions do we need to shell out?

  38. How much money has Trump invested in Central America to address the cause of the problem?

    Why was this not such an enormous problem before Trump. Trump took over and all of a sudden it became a big problem. If Trump had followed what previous administrations did on this issue, it would not be the enormous and disgraceful debacle it is today.

  39. Previous administrations sought to address the cause of central American immigration by programs in Guatemala, El Salvador, Hondurans and other Central American countries. The logic was that if conditions are improved in those countries people will not leave them.

    It appears that ‘logically’ the main effort to stop immigration from shitholes into the US is to make the US a shithole too. If these migrants were of the calibre of migrants from Europe, the countries from which they depart wouldn’t be shitholes. Anyway, how is the program going……..?

    http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/conditions-on-the-streets-of-san-francisco-are-comparable-to-the-slums-of-mumbai-delhi-mexico-city-jarkarta-and-manila

    When Leilani Farha paid a visit to San Francisco in January, she knew the grim reputation of the city’s homeless encampments. In her four years as the United Nations Special Rapporteur for Adequate Housing, Farha has visited the slums of Mumbai, Delhi, Mexico City, Jarkarta, and Manila. The crisis in San Francisco, she said, is comparable to these conditions.

    But LA is worse

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/06/california-third-world-state-corruption-crime-infrastructure/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Hanson&fbclid=IwAR2OHy0cIE_G5GU2NSEF2fH9mVUE7b2Hpx6UA4ljXmNBwOOXIWukJxYVOBs

    Twenty-seven percent of Californians were not born in the United States, a large minority of them residing in the United States illegally. Yet California’s universities and popular culture are at the forefront of salad-bowl and identity-politics policies that obstruct assimilation, integration, and intermarriage — the historical remedies for the natural tensions that arise within multiracial and multiethnic societies. In this perfect storm, at the very moment the world’s poorest citizens from Oaxaca and Central America flooded into America, de facto rejecting the protocols of their home, their hosts’ messaging to them was that they should lodge complaints about the social injustice of their new home and romanticize the culture that they had just forsaken for good cause.

    California schools are usually in the bottom decile of national rankings. No one in polite conversation asks why that is so, given that the state’s K–12 schools used to be among the most competitive in the United States.

    Yes – the program to dissuade would-be migrants from leaving central America and Africa to turn up on the southern US border and get all those nice ‘human fights’ freebies, by turning the US into a shithole, is working.

  40. Immigration once was considered a good thing in the US. Everyone is an immigrant or of immigrant ancestors. Immigrants were seen as a strength of the US. Trump has turned immigration into a debacle.

    Ok, immigration’s great.

    Previous administrations sought to address the cause of central American immigration by programs in Guatemala, El Salvador, Hondurans and other Central American countries. The logic was that if conditions are improved in those countries people will not leave them.

    Ok, immigration’s not great.

  41. It is definitely a leftist program to turn the US and Europe into shitholes. The fact is that a central tenet of leftism is ‘fairness’ i.e. nobody (apart from leftists) should have more or be better off than anybody else, so anywhere that is better than anywhere has to be brought down to the lower level because, for example, Guatemala can never be as accomplished as the US because the people of Guatemala are not as accomplished as the (European and oriental) people of the US. Thus, the 3rd-world has to be brought into Europe and white countries by any means and any lies.

  42. Let’s test Operation Shithole – the conversion of the US from a European-class country into a toilet…….

    https://eu.usatoday.com/story/money/2018/09/26/best-worst-thing-every-state/37857241/

    Maine

    Best: Lowest violent crime rate

    Maine ranks as the safest state in the country, as there were just 124 violent crimes reported for every 100,000 residents — less than a third of the national rate.

    Worst: Least diverse

    According to the latest Census data, 94.4 percent of Maine’s population is white, beating out nearby Vermont and New Hampshire as the least diverse states.

    So the worst thing about Maine is that it is too white – but, help is on the way…..

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/23/us/portland-maine-african-migrants.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

    PORTLAND, Me. — Through the winter, the families streamed into Portland, bringing stories of violence and persecution in their home countries in central Africa. Portland’s shelter for homeless families soon filled to capacity, so the city put mats on the floor of a Salvation Army gym for 80 more people.

    Then that, too, wasn’t enough. This month, 250 migrants from Africa arrived in this northeastern city of roughly 67,000 residents in the span of just a week, overflowing the overflow space and forcing Portland to hastily convert a basketball arena into an emergency shelter. Urgent calls went out for interpreters who could speak French, Portuguese and Lingala, a language spoken in the Democratic Republic of Congo. City Council meetings were given over to grappling with how Portland would pay for all of this — and the possibility that still more migrants might be coming.

    It is a bit of a mystery in Maine, one of the oldest and whitest states in the country, how Portland has become a focal point for a sudden surge of migrants, mostly from Angola and Congo, who are seeking asylum.

    Indeed, it is a bit of a mystery – I wonder (((who))) could be behind sending savages into the whitest state of the Union. Anyway, let’s look to the future of Maine…….

    Best: Diversity

    Maine has become one of America’s most diverse states, a beautiful mosaic of different people, different beliefs, different yearnings, different dreams, united by their passionate belief in democracy, freedom, and the American Way Of Life.

    Worst: Crime

    The citizens of Maine endure some of the nation’s highest rates of murder, violent assault, rape, robbery and inter-communal violence. Sociologists and political scientists are baffled by these developments as less than a decade ago Maine was the safest place in the country.

    H/T to Irish Savant

    http://irishsavant.blogspot.com/2019/06/and-maine-problem-is.html

  43. People have been dying whilst trying to cross the US, Mexican border during the Obahma years and before, so I don’t understand why this has suddenly become news.

    This is a shared responsibility between both governments with the Mexican government taking a greater proportion of the blame as it is their citizens.

  44. Mark,

    The majority of the people crossing the US-Mexican border are not Mexican.

  45. Illegal crossings by Mexicans is way down.

    The Mexican economy is not that bad.

    This largely is a central American thing.

    But Mexico shouldn’t allow it’s territory to be used as a launch pad for scammers and illegalities.

  46. Though the reduction of Mexican illegal immigration to the United States is the blueprint for reducing all Central American illegal immigration to the United States. Improvements to the Mexican economy mean there are more jobs for Mexicans, while also having a knock-on effect of fewer births. So there are less people and more jobs.

    A concerted US effort to improve the economies of El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras, is necessary to reduce illegal immigration. Improving the human rights situation, and the rule of law, in those countries would also help.

  47. A concerted US effort to improve the economies of El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras, is necessary to reduce illegal immigration. Improving the human rights situation, and the rule of law, in those countries would also help.

    On the latter, why don’t the people in these countries do these things themselves?

    On the former, why is it incumbent on the ordinary people of the US to have central America as a financial burden?

    Anyway, as stated, lefties want to bring the US down to the level of central America or even Africa and, as shown on this thread, the policy is taking effect. Once the US and Europe are reduced to 3rd-world shitholes, nobody would want to go there

  48. I am entirely in favor of assisting countries in the region / hemisphere, provided that the money is very well spent and that the countries are well governed.

    There’s no good reason why those countries can’t be much better off.

    They’ve historically been held back by right wing rulers ( Somoza ) , left wing rulers ( Nicaragua, Cuba, Venezuela ), criminal gangs. If they start down the road followed by Singapore and Korea, there can be dramatic improvements in one generation.

    Mexicans, Cubans, Central Americans, Venezuelans can do very well when they’re allowed to, outside badly governed lands

  49. Crushing the gangs is essential.

    I don’t know if that is even possible.

    Hemispheric drug law liberalization might help?

  50. “On the former, why is it incumbent on the ordinary people of the US to have central America as a financial burden?”

    It isn’t incumbent on them. However doing so is the only actually successful way to reduce illegal immigration from those countries.

  51. The situation in El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras is very bad. I think the US should help them provided they agree to what needs to be done. I’m not that familiar with those countries but have read enough to know that more than regular police are required to get things under control. Perhaps the US could assist in improving their armed forces. At the very least a study should be conducted to determine what is required to bring them to some degree of law and order, then what it would take to form a non-corrupt government. As I said above, this is the main cause of the debacle on the US border and until it is addressed the problem will not be solved. More border agents, walls, wire fences, detention centers, etc. is but reacting to the effects of the cause which is in the countries under discussion.

  52. New Yorker, People in that part of Central America are very suspicious of “Yankee involvement,” especially in the augmentation of police forces. In El Salvador especially, memories of death squads are still clear.

    Better a wall first.

  53. New Yorker, People in that part of Central America are very suspicious of “Yankee involvement,” especially in the augmentation of police forces. In El Salvador especially, memories of death squads are still clear.

    Yep.

  54. Improving the human rights situation, and the rule of law, in those countries would also help.

    Seamus – why don’t the people in these countries do these things themselves?

    Anyway, as previously stated, it is the policy of leftists to bring the developped world down to the level of the 3rd-world so that migration shall be reduced, and here’s how retards in the UK plan to do it……..

    https://dailystormer.name/uk-retards-want-to-give-everyone-in-the-world-free-healthcare-to-combat-skinhate/

    I used to think you have to be very smart to become a doctor.

    Apparently, I was very wrong…

    Breitbart:

    On Tuesday, an overwhelming majority of delegates at the annual conference of the British Medical Association, a union which represents 155,000 doctors, called for the abolition of all charges by migrants to use the NHS, which would effectively turn the National Health Service into the International Health Service

    Whenever I visit The Daily Stormer and I see headlines such as that above, my first thought is that its the humourous style of the custodian, and then I see that it’s for real – the BMA really does want to provide free medical treatment for the world paid by whitey’s taxes.

    Paul says – but pakis and coons pay taxes too.

    Ah – they also consume benefits and, because of their in-breeding, low IQs and high criminality, they consume more than they pay. I alone contribute more to the UK than the entire F-nick population

    According to the Daily Mail, doctors who opposed lifting the regulations that safeguard Britons’ and legal migrants’ use of the NHS were allegedly booed, whilst one doctor, Dr Omar Risk, claimed that “Charging migrants for accessing NHS services is a fundamentally racist endeavour – we are complicit in the oppressive regime.”

    Oh – that’s another thing: the rates of practitioners being struck off is very high for the F-nicks, very high indeed.

    Health tourism is believed to cost British taxpayers between £200 million and £2 billion every year. However, Dr Jackie Appleby, who proposed the motion, calls the millions — and potentially billions — of annual lost healthcare funding “peanuts in the grand scheme of things”.

    DS – Of course it had to be a woman who came up with this. Who else would destroy an entire country’s healthcare system for Twitter likes?

  55. WaPo published an item on Rex Tillerson and it sheds light on who the real boss is…..

    In newly disclosed testimony, former secretary of state Rex Tillerson said President Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, operated independently with powerful leaders around the world without coordination with the State Department, leaving Tillerson out of the loop and in the dark on emerging U.S. policies and simmering geopolitical crises.

    On several occasions, Tillerson said he was blindsided by Kushner’s discussions with world leaders.

    In one instance, Tillerson said he learned that Kushner was meeting with Mexico’s foreign secretary because he happened to be in the same Washington restaurant while the two men hashed out a “fairly comprehensive plan of action” that Tillerson didn’t know about.

    In another instance, Tillerson explained in detail being surprised by the 2017 Persian Gulf crisis in which key Arab allies severed ties with Qatar, another key U.S. ally. He said he was in Australia at the time with then-Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, and both were caught off guard.

    “I was surprised,” Tillerson said.

    He also said he was not aware of meetings that had been occurring between Arab leaders and Kushner, including a private meeting May 20, 2017, between Kushner, Trump’s former adviser Stephen K. Bannon and the rulers of Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.

    “What’s your reaction to a meeting of that sort having taken place without your knowledge?” Tillerson was asked by committee staff.

    “It makes me angry,” Tillerson said. “Because I didn’t have a say. The State Department’s views were never expressed.”

    Tillerson said he asked Kushner to stop making trips overseas without consulting with the embassy or the State Department.

    Just for clarity – Kushner doesn’t answer to Trump: Kushner answers to…….

    https://foreignpolicy.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/netanyahu-kushner.jpg?resize=800,533&quality=90

  56. https://www.foxnews.com/us/official-soldiers-found-dead-at-mexico-arizona-border-died-by-suicide

    Hodges was found June 1 near the border city of Nogales; Christian died Sunday, 200 miles away in Ajo.

    Both men were assigned to the Southwest Border Support Mission, which has some 2,400 service members.

    President Trump has deployed active-duty soldiers to the U.S.-Mexico border to support the Border Patrol amid a surge of migrants from Central America. Duties have included placing hundreds of miles of concertina wire and reinforcing points of entry.

  57. Charles

    “New Yorker, People in that part of Central America are very suspicious of “Yankee involvement,” especially in the augmentation of police forces. In El Salvador especially, memories of death squads are still clear.” That is why I said more than police forces and mentioned assisting their armed forces. I’m not an expert in this area, but think things could be done such as taking army officers out-of-country and training them in the best methods to overcome the likely challenges that would face and maybe giving them the best weapons. I’m suggesting something other than mere augmentation of their police force. I agree there is a bad legacy of Yanqui misdeeds by US government and business entities, but think that could be overcome.

    The report of the suicide of US soldiers is fresh and we need more clarification and verification.

  58. Those millions of oppressed south of Texas are getting in one way or another, even if it all has to be faked to guilt-the-whitey……

    https://www.rt.com/usa/462837-aoc-parking-lot-detention-center/

    Clutching her face in despair and weeping, photos of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez seemingly show her strong reaction to a horrific scene of US migrant detention. However, new angles reveal she may have played things up a bit.

    While quite a few people noted that there was something a bit off about the congresswoman’s photo shoot at a border detention policy protest that went viral this week, there was nothing concrete to indicate her insincerity… until one gets a look at the massive empty road and parking lot on the other side.

    The view of that empty car park caused Ocasio-Cortez to emote……

    https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1143379755540066305

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez‏Verified account @AOC

    Follow Follow @AOC

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Retweeted Ivan Pierre Aguirre

    I’ll never forget this, because it was the moment I saw with my own eyes that the America I love was becoming a nation that steals refugee children from their parents,& caged them.

    More kids died after this. To date, no one has been held accountable.

    We need to save these kids.

    LIES LIES LIES

    Does anybody disagree?

  59. Well after 2 days of debates it’s clear no matter what you think of Trump he’s better than anyone else running.

  60. I saw this today and had to laugh look at what I said earlier in the thread,,,,,

    Patrick Van Roy, on June 26th, 2019 at 7:41 PM Said:
    well as a matter of ecological balance there are alligators from Florida to North Carolina and then again all the way over in Louisiana I propose we populate the waters in Texas Arizona and New Mexico with the pretty little creatures

    now read this…..

    Texas Border Patrol agents fear that a six-foot alligator who lives in the Rio Grande, which migrants swim across daily to get into the United States from Mexico, may carry out a deadly attack.

    Federal agents in Eagle Pass, Texas, have known about the reptile for several years, but say they have seen it more often in recent months at a section of the river where most migrants illegally cross in the region.

    “It’s never snapped at anyone. The guys who work boat patrol see it every once and a while, and it checks them out,” Jon Anfinsen, the vice president of the National Border Patrol Council’s Del Rio chapter, told the Washington Examiner.