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MEANWHILE, IN PORTLAND

By Pete Moore On June 30th, 2019

For the domestic terrorist group Antifa, “punch a Nazi” now means “assault a gay, Asian-American journalist and give him a brain bleed”. A cute touch is that they’re mixing cement with milkshake, causing caustic burns. This is not an isolated case. These ultra-left bums regularly assault journalists and others.

Even cuter is that much of the media (of course) looks the other way. We know how it would be reported if (say) Donald Trump or Brexit supporters had done this to someone. It would lead every front page and every cable news bulletin for a week.

It’s time for these terrorists to be taken down.

97 Responses to “MEANWHILE, IN PORTLAND”

  1. This was not a random attack.

    on his Twitter bio, Ngo says that he is “Hated by Antifa.” Ngo is a resident of Portland and frequently writes about the Antifa movement. During one video recording of the June 29 protest one woman can be heard saying, “F*** you Andy.” On May 7, Ngo posted a video to Twitter showing a man he said had assaulted him at his gym. The night before the June 29 assault, Ngo tweeted that he was “nervous” about the rally as he posted a screenshot of an Antifa blog that singled Ngo out as the group promised a “physical confrontation.”

    https://heavy.com/news/2019/06/andy-ngo-attacked/

  2. This is a movement that has political violence at its core

    It should be crushed root and branch

    Let’s hear the excuse machine kick into gear, how this guy asked for it

  3. That’s nasty indeed. There is no way that the authorities do not know who the perps are – ‘antifa’ is well-linked on social media so these assailants should be apprehended and dealt with accordingly.

    What did Pete say a few weeks back about worse stuff soon to be used by lefties than mere milkshakes? These scumbags always escalate

  4. Yes, terrible stuff in the US which should be utterly condemned.

    Meanwhile in Germany a much more heinous crime:

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/06/26/neo-nazi-admits-killing-politician-crime-shocked-germany/

    ATW is silent.

  5. Yes Paul, a political assassination by a neo-Nazi is to be condemned.

  6. Paul

    Yeah but

  7. Paul

    You’re ATW, and you were silent until just now

    How about condemning all political violence

  8. Good man Charles.

    Looks like crimes by immigrants in Germany shouls make headline news on ATW but ethnic German on ethnic German neo-Nazi political murder shouldn’t be commented on, eh Phantom?

    Probably another ‘mentally ill man who had no interest in politics?’

  9. A cowardly attack.

    And for the record, I condem (almost) all political violence.

  10. Of course I won’t condemn all political violence. Political violence is absolutely justified in some cases.

    However, I’ll depart ATW for now and come back tomorrow for more commentary with a clearer head

  11. Of course I won’t condemn all political violence. Political violence is absolutely justified in some cases.

    In Vino, Veritas!

  12. Paul

    You were silent on that violence until now

    you expect us to be commenting on something that you yourself were silent about

  13. “ Beating up peaceful demonstrators and reporters is sometimes justified “

  14. It appears that social media is revealing the IDs of the perps……

    https://twitter.com/School_Project/status/1145170174368264192

    ToothBear
    🐻
    ‏ @justwinejosh
    Replying to @pnjaban @MrAndyNgo

    This is a chemical attack using phosphate in the milkshake an alkali which is corrosive to skin… when will people wake up that ANTIFA is trying to figure out how to do the most harm with the least punishment using biological, chemical, and psychological (terror)warfare…?

    How long before acid is used? Paul – what do you reckon?

    Next time it’s a chemical. Then it’s a brick. Then a knife etc etc eh Pete?

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2064966/

    Cement burns account for relatively few admissions to a burn unit; however, these burns deserve separate consideration because of special features of diagnosis and management. Cement burns, even though potentially disabling, have rarely been reported in literature

    This could be the beginning of a new type of chemical attack by those loveable ‘antifa’ rascals.

  15. Final comment here for the night guys:

    In Vino, Veritas!

    Charles, I seldom if ever comment here under the influence of alcohol and when I have I’ve made it known that I’ve had a few. As I’m sure you’re aware I’ve also defended political violence as justifiable under certain circumstances many times.

    Beating up peaceful demonstrators and reporters is sometimes justified

    Phantom, read this again:

    Yes, terrible stuff in the US which should be utterly condemned.

    Hope that makes things clear.

    Night night lads.

  16. if (say) Donald Trump or Brexit supporters had done this to someone. It would lead every front page and every cable news bulletin for a week.

    Except for the Daily Mail and the Daily Telegraph and the Sun and the Daily Express and their Sunday versions. And Fox News of course.

  17. What truly amazes me is how few of these idiots have been shot.

  18. Patrick, that’s why they are in Portland and not Texas, lol.

  19. I don’t think it’s that hard to get a carry permit in Oregon

    Maybe some day the other shoe will drop. They’re very much asking for it

  20. it’s bound to happen

  21. When it does, that will be one time when the three of us can raise a virtual beer

    Antifa are absolute violent criminals, The worst of the worst.

  22. hear hear

  23. What did Pete say a few weeks back about worse stuff soon to be used by lefties than mere milkshakes? These scumbags always escalate […]

    ToothBear
    🐻
    ‏ @justwinejosh
    Replying to @pnjaban @MrAndyNgo

    This is a chemical attack using phosphate in the milkshake an alkali which is corrosive to skin… when will people wake up that ANTIFA is trying to figure out how to do the most harm with the least punishment using biological, chemical, and psychological (terror)warfare…?

    How long before acid is used? Paul – what do you reckon?

    This could be the beginning of a new type of chemical attack by those loveable ‘antifa’ rascals.

    Yeah, sure. It seems however that Pete’s breathless SHOCK HORROR sensationalism isn’t that shock horror sensationalist after all:

    A Lieutenant in the field broadcast information of his observation of a cup with appeared to have material on it consistent with quick drying cement, wrote PPB spokesperson Lt. Tina Jones in an email to the Mercury. “We put out the tweet to bring attention to this potential hazard and to encourage people to contact us if they were the victim of a crime

    https://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2019/06/30/26731412/portland-police-offer-no-proof-that-protesters-had-milkshakes-with-quick-dry-cement?fbclid=IwAR0VHgN9QtSvAH4O_BwTv-30vNq4vwm5ni5ddpM3q4iMzvwNSKNf5bT9nCc

    I wonder how many people have presented themselves at hospital covered or burned with quick drying cement, eh Allan?

    A case of someone said it on Twitter so it must be true? Bad luck.

  24. I wonder how many people have presented themselves at hospital covered or burned with quick drying cement, eh Allan?

    A case of someone said it on Twitter so it must be true? Bad luck.

    Here are pictures of Andy Ngo after Paul insisting that nothing was amiss:

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/29/journalist-andy-ngo-assaulted-by-antifa-protesters-in-portland/

    The video showed Ngo, editor of Quilette, being punched and kicked by masked assailants dressed in black and then being hit by various containers of liquid as he is retreating.

    Andy Ngo
    ✔ @MrAndyNgo

    I am nervous about tomorrow’s Portland antifa rally. They’re promising “physical confrontation” & have singled me out to be assaulted.

    UPDATE 7:15pm Eastern: Andy is in the ER with a trusted friend. Attackers tore his ear lobe and you can see the injuries he sustained to his face and neck.

    Portland Police
    ✔ @PortlandPolice

    Police have received information that some of the milkshakes thrown today during the demonstration contained quick-drying cement. We are encouraging anyone hit with a substance today to report it to police.

    25K
    12:08 AM – Jun 30, 2019

    I’ll set up a system to audit what the police put out based on information that they have, which should be good enough for Paul. But the images of the consequences of the assault from those rascally antifa look real: Paul, are they real?

  25. Allan, regarding the assault, it was dealt with last night

    Yes, terrible stuff in the US which should be utterly condemned

    Now, I know how meticulous you are with your ‘research’ so I’ll look forward to your reports of people presenting themselves at hospitals covered in or burned by vegan coconut milk shake, a Lieutenant in the field broadcast information of his observation of a cup with appeared to have material on it consistent with quick drying cement quick drying cement.

  26. I’m glad to see that, so far anyway, Charles has not joined Phantom and Troll in the plan to celebrate seeing people being shot. For some reason, I expected more from Phantom. Not Troll, who wishes violence on others all the time, but I thought Phantom was better than this. Not any more.

  27. Breaks my heart Seimi

    What do you think should happen to those who repeatedly threaten to beat up nonviolent adversaries and who then go right ahead and beat them up in the most premeditated fashion

    When antifa dregs kill someone will you pretend to be upset about it?

  28. What should be done with them? Arrest them, charge them, imprison them.
    Shoot them? No. That response only applies to trigger-happy fireside warriors and two-faced, dishonest people, who on one post will state categorically that they oppose the death penalty, but then say they will raise a ‘virtual beer’ if someone they disagree with is shot.
    As for your last dig – respectfully fuck you, Phantom. I don’t need to ‘pretend’ to be upset if someone is killed. I don’t use others people’s violent deaths to make witty, pithy, fucking stupid comments.

  29. Perhaps you’re upset that your wee buddies have been criticized. That’s the ticket.

    There’s a big difference between the state killing someone who is defenseless and a person defending himself against violent assault.

    I have no problem with ” antifa “‘s views. ( -but then say they will raise a ‘virtual beer’ if someone they disagree with is shot.- ) You completely misunderstand all aspects of the discussion.

    I oppose antifa because they violently attack innocent people. I will oppose those from any ideological perspective if they advocate violence against innocent people.

    I’m not a pacifist.

    If the government executes people, some of those people executed will be innocent.

    If someone is assaulted for no good reason, and the assaulted person defends themselves, that’s a completely different thing. You’d prefer that they not defend themselves. Cheers.

  30. I don’t oppose very well trained and very well vetted people carrying firearms, particularly, if they’ve been threatened before.

    Do not misunderstand me on this.

    My main problem with US gun policy is that few gun owners are well trained or well vetted.

  31. When antifa dregs kill someone will you pretend to be upset about it?

    But they haven’t, unlike the Neo Nazi in Germany or the Neo – Nazi Charlottesville car murderer who was sentenced to life in prison on Friday.

    Not even a pretence of being upset from the usual suspects on ATW.

  32. If you go around bashing innocent people, bad things should happen to you.

    Not all here agree with that statement, not really.

  33. You know I heard it on the radio Paul but when I searched for the story to do the post all I kept getting was the story from december.

    They guy got life, I think he should have received the death penalty.

  34. They’re not my ‘wee buddies’ Phantom, and I never said I was. You don’t know what my stance on Antifa is, so less of the smug assertions.
    And I would not prefer ‘that they not defend themselves,’ so please, stop telling lies. Shooting someone, even if they attack you, is a disproportionate response, unless they attack you with a weapon, with the intent to kill.
    You, on the other hand, will celebrate if someone is shot, no matter whether thay are attacking someone with a knife, a gun, or a milkshake*. Cheers indeed.

    *See? I can write things in such a way as to make it look like your opinion too. It’s not clever. It’s very lazy and disingenuous, but it is one of the weapons in your arsenal, and I thought you might enjoy having it directed back at you for a change.

  35. There’s an easy solution for antifa.

    Shooting someone, even if they attack you, is a disproportionate response, unless they attack you with a weapon, with the intent to kill.

    So a woman who is being sexually assaulted should never reach for a weapon, since no firearm was aimed at her?

  36. Attacking and killing someone engaged in free speech should be a Capital Offence I don’t care what they’re preaching EVERYONE must be allowed to speak openly without free of violence. They at least gave him Life.

  37. “Not all here are with that statement…”
    To whom do you refer? Be as specific as you like.

  38. A weak man being savagely beat up in a mugging by a hugely strong man should not shoot the mugger given a chance?

    You may want to think through some of these comments before putting them out there.

  39. So now you’re shifting the goalposts, Phantom? Or have Antifa tried to sexually assault someone?

  40. More shifting of goalposts?
    I thought we were talking about just shooting Antifa members? No?

  41. I am addressing your quick off the lip comments.

  42. I am addressing your quick off the lip comments.

  43. “They guy got life, I think he should have received the death penalty.”

    It was a plea deal. He plead guilty in return for the prosecutor not seeking the death penalty.

  44. My comments are all connected with your plan to celebrate with a beer if an Antifa member is shot.
    Your comments are all over the place. Perhaps it is you who should think before he comments?

  45. PVR

    Nothing should be a capital offense.

    There have been too many false convictions to allow for that.

    A life term with no parole is no day at the beach. Half these guys would prefer to be executed rather than face 50-60 years in a cage.

  46. Phantom, read this again:

    Yes, terrible stuff in the US which should be utterly condemned.

    Hope that makes things clear

    It seems that while immigrant crime in Germany and blac bloc violence in the US should be front page news on ATW actual Neo Nazi muder in both places doesn’t warrant a mention, with Charles having the sole decency and grace to condemn it.

    Parhaps a bit of auto introspection in your faux outrage?

  47. Nothing should be a capital offence?
    Does this mean ‘apart from when it’s an Antifa member’, or that the person who shoots the Antifa member should not face the death penalty? Which would you celebrate more?

  48. You know I heard it on the radio Paul but when I searched for the story to do the post all I kept getting was the story from december.

    Pat:

    https://news.sky.com/story/white-supremacist-who-killed-charlottesville-protester-apologises-as-he-is-jailed-for-life-11751015

  49. Shooting someone, even if they attack you, is a disproportionate response, unless they attack you with a weapon, with the intent to kill.

    If you lay a hand on me or my family……. you could very well die. That is how it has always been, and always should be.

    You can curse me, you can argue, scream, hollar and sue…. but if you lay a hand on me I will kill you and the courts will back me up.

  50. An individual defending himself in a life threatening situation is not the same as the government killing one who is defenseless.

  51. thanks Paul there are a few things I want to say about that case.

  52. PaTroll
    I feel exactly the same way, but I was under the impression that we were discussing only the shooting of Antifa members. I didn’t realise that Phantom had broadened out the discussion to mean anyone and everyone.

  53. Phantom, on July 1st, 2019 at 8:18 PM Said:
    An individual defending himself in a life threatening situation is not the same as the government killing one who is defenseless.

    No it’s not but in both situations because I am assuming you’re talking death penalty the individual killed by the person using self defense and the individual convicted of a capital offense both brought it on themselves.

  54. I have no moral problem with executing a premeditated murderer

    I have a big moral problem with the possibility of executing innocent persons – and if there is large scale death penalty that absolutely will happen.

  55. Seimi, on July 1st, 2019 at 8:22 PM Said:
    PaTroll
    I feel exactly the same way, but I was under the impression that we were discussing only the shooting of Antifa members. I didn’t realise that Phantom had broadened out the discussion to mean anyone and everyone.

    Why would ANTIFA get a pass from the general rules of life? I don’t care about the motivation or politics behind the attack I care about the attack.

    If you physically attack me as they did this poor bastard…. you better be wearing body armor that will stop a 45colt or your going to have a grapefruit size hole in you.

  56. and if there is large scale death penalty that absolutely will happen.

    True, but there is not a large scale one and with today’s technology we can increase the number put to death and eliminate the risk of an innocent being killed.

  57. gotta go be back

  58. Antifa has very often announced in advance that they will be beating up people that they don’t like.

    And I believe that they made such threats here, directly addressed at Mr. Ngo.

    None of this is heat of the moment anything. These attacks ( plural ) are all highly premeditated.

  59. I will kill you and the courts will back me up.

    Only only if the violence used in defence is proportional to the threat Pat?

    Self-defense law requires the response to match the level of the threat in question. In other words, a person can only employ as much force as required to remove the threat. If the threat involves deadly force, the person defending themselves can use deadly force to counteract the threat. If, however, the threat involves only minor force and the person claiming self-defense uses force that could cause grievous bodily harm or death, the claim of self-defense will fail.

    https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-law-basics/self-defense-overview.html

    Shooting ‘Antifa’ members raises a virtual beer on ATW while actual neo Nazi murder doesn’t even raise a comment let alone a condemnation.

  60. You hate the very thought of Ngo defending himself against multiple, stronger attackers.

  61. Phantom, you can write statements like that as much as you like, and attribute them to others as much as you like, but they will still be lies. Nobody hates the thought of someone defending themselves. But that’s not what you will celebrate. You will celebrates someone being shot.
    Antifa said they would beat people up. You would shoot them for that. Grow a pair and own your statement.

  62. You hate the very thought of Ngo defending himself against multiple, stronger attackers

    Is that ‘you’ singular or plural? Who does it refer to?

    Let me make this absolutely clear, anyone who is attacked has a right to defend themselves although someone who claims to be against the death sentence while celebrating the death of an ‘antifa’ member while staying silent on the actual death sentence by a neo Nazi and the jailing of another neo Nazi for handing out an actual death sentence to a protestor seems convoluted to say the least.

  63. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnMMHe2_EU4

  64. Is that ‘you’ singular or plural? Who does it refer to?

    – Glib obscure comment about Poughkeepsie or something. I supposed it’s the passive / aggressive cowardice that we’re used to.

  65. Seimi, on July 1st, 2019 at 7:30 PM Said:

    I’m glad to see that, so far anyway, Charles has not joined Phantom and Troll in the plan to celebrate seeing people being shot. For some reason, I expected more from Phantom. Not Troll, who wishes violence on others all the time, but I thought Phantom was better than this. Not any more.

    Seimi, you have a keen eye. No, I didn’t join the group. Not that I think that Antifa doesn’t have it coming. I just don’t celebrate death.

  66. Dr. Walter Lübcke (CDU, Christian Democratic Union), president of the local government of Kassel, holds a speech in the town of Lohfelden on the 14.10.2015, the day before 800 migrants arrive. Lohfelden has a population of 14,000 and Luebcke tells German townsfolk at the meeting that they are free to depart the town if they disagree with bringing in 800 migrants from the 3rd-world.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-r4RojL4-E

    Luebcke was a traitor. Treason can vary in degree and, as we would agree, deserves punishment. The level of treason that Luebcke, along with almost all of Europe’s political class, perpetrated against Germans would result in the end of Germans so, whatever person killed the traitor, the traitor got a little of what he deserved

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanged,_drawn_and_quartered

    During the High Middle Ages those in England guilty of treason were punished in a variety of ways, including drawing and hanging. In the 13th century other more brutal penalties were introduced, such as disembowelling, burning, beheading and quartering.

    Anyway, if anybody sees any nazi propaganda, make sure that it is reported as it can damage the mind……..

    https://imgflip.com/i/2eg9tk

  67. There are some good videos on liveleak of antifa scum being utterly pulverised, and I’ve thorougly enjoyed them and have imagined myself swinging a nail-studded baseball bat into their dirty soap-free heads.

  68. Brexi, let’s not meet their violence with brown shirt tactics of our own. I hate Antifa, with a big helping of dislike for Portland’s mayor, who is allowing this. There really needs to be a crack down there.

  69. Not Troll, who wishes violence on others all the time

    screw you you terror supporting finnian

  70. I speak of self defense always I don’t support violence or promote it EVER, but you have……

    c’mon you want to get into it…. I’ll gladly speak my mind…. lets talk violence and the proper use of it shall we…..

  71. Antifa remind you of any other ski mask wearing animals………

  72. Charles

    Correct. You don’t want competing gangs. That’s one of the worst possible outcomes.

    There would be a proper role for the federal government in coming down on the Portland police and mayor on this. Cops and cities are there to support the rights of everyone, especially the law abiding.

    Separate belligerents when you can, and come down like a ton of bricks on those who initiate violence.

    These antifa seem to be about the easiest of criminals to catch- they often tell you in advance that they’re going to do, in writing.

  73. I guess I better use the proper spelling to convey my meaning Seimi…..

    Fenian

    just so my meaning’s clear…….. you called for the Troll…… c’mon

  74. Seimi, on July 1st, 2019 at 8:47 PM Said:
    Phantom, you can write statements like that as much as you like, and attribute them to others as much as you like, but they will still be lies. Nobody hates the thought of someone defending themselves. But that’s not what you will celebrate. You will celebrates someone being shot.
    Antifa said they would beat people up. You would shoot them for that. Grow a pair and own your statement.

    You have said there is a time and there are events that justify civilian violence. In my upbringing and like it or not the majority of ALL AMERICANS and on this I will speak for them.

    We are a nation of Laws and the underlying law is ANYONE can say ANYTHING they want and do so without the fear of physical attack or incarceration.

    The second basic Law is self defence. You lay a hand on me I can kill you and get away with it. All I have to say is I felt my life was in jeopardy.

    These people have been very lucky at who they have attacked. These people are Brownshirts the attack people groups and speech they don’t like. They should be treated as a terrorist group because that is what they are. Every Cop on seen at this event should lose their badge.

    You say I call for violence you’re wrong I call for responding to force with greater force.

    Watch that video that man is now brain damaged from that attack and the police stood there and did NOTHING

    Suppose that was someone like me unarmed I can still cripple or kill you, even being crippled and old. Who would you consider wrong the person punching me in the head or me responding by crushing his larynx?

    These people are one wrong person away from bloodshed. And I don’t celebrate that nor do I call for these animals to be round up and shot, or even for them to be prevented from protesting. I call for the police to do their jobs and keep the animals controlled. If the Cops act like they do in Portland they leave the people no choice but self defense.

  75. This story remains significantly underreported in most media. ( CNN did interview NGO, and they let him talk, so props to them )

    It appears that journalist Andy Ngo wasn’t the only victim of an antifa assault at Saturday’s rally in Portland, Oregon.

    Two Oregon men — John Blum and Adam Kelly — were mobbed and pummeled by black-masked protesters in a horrific attack that left Mr. Blum bleeding profusely from wounds to his face and skull, as shown in video shared on social media by conservative pundit Michelle Malkin and others.

    The left of center media generally downplays this violence, the left politicians tend to never mention it.If you bring this stuff up to a woke lefty here, watch how quick they change the subject.

    This stuff is tolerated by the left, in America and in Europe. They all think that antifa are generally on the right side of things. Maybe a little too exhuberant, but “ their heart is in the right place “.

    https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jul/1/two-more-oregon-men-left-bloody-antifa-attack-port/

  76. screw you you terror supporting finnian

    I’ve never understood why anyone would think that an Irish Republican would consider being called a Fenian a slur.

  77. Those who attempt to use Fenian or Taig for that matter, are ignorant of the etymology of the words.

  78. Whoops:

    Those who attempt to use Fenian or Taig for that matter, as insults […]

  79. I’ve never understood why anyone would think that an Irish Republican would consider being called a Fenian a slur.

    If you go by the oldest meaning it’s a compliment, if you go by the meaning from the 70s it’s not.

    good to see you Chris….. I wish you would stop by more often.

  80. It’s only a slur to a few loyalists

    I’d not want to go there

  81. it was said in anger to someone who I knew would get MY meaning……

    I don’t appreciate being called a person that advocates violence.

    Every call I have ever made for the use of force has ALWAYS been as a response to violence.

  82. Patrick

    The meaning hasn’t changed.

    That’s like saying black used to mean black but now it means white.

    Have certain Unionists/Loyalists tried to use it as a slur? Absolutely! The question I would have for you is this. Why would you take your lead from a group of people who use Gaelic symbols like the Red Hand of Ulster and Cú Chulainn in order to fight against Gaelic culture.

    It’s like naming the local village idiot as the town magistrate.

  83. It’s right there

    It has genocidal and extreme anti Catholic implications

    Didn’t the bad guys used to have or still have some drunken “ song “ about wading through fenian gore or whatever

  84. Phantom

    The song is called the Billy Boys, a very sophisticated and cultured look into their mindset

    Hello, Hello
    We are the Billy Boys
    Hello, Hello
    You’ll know us by our noise
    We’re up to our knees in Fenian blood…

  85. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Boys

  86. Simple Chris, Seimi was acting the village idiot. and where I was angry at his remarks saying I’m a person that will celebrate the shooting of an antifa idiot I have to weigh how insulting I want to be.

    I have my best conversations with Seamus and Paul, primarily Seamus. Seimi occasionally jumps in. So I wanted to smack him, but not viscously. So Fenian Bastard came to mind as a way of doing that.

    I am well aware of the terms proud origins as well as the Brit Police use of it in the derogatory…..

    How have you been Chris?

    Things over in spite of the little tiff above have gotten much better for conversation and your voice has always been welcomed here. I wish you would stop by more often.

  87. BTW, it’s used as an attempted sectarian insult. The irony is that to a loyalist Pat would be a Fenian.

  88. on that you would be right, contrary to being labeled a self hating Irishman I am very proud of my heritage and I actually stand on their side. I just don’t approve or accept the methods that were chosen to achieve the goals.

  89. Patrick

    I understand what your intent was i.e. insult Semi as harsh as possible. My point to you was that I didn’t think it was a very good insult due to the proud origins of the term.

    As an example you might understand better. In certain parts of the world i.e. Middle East/China/Russia etc it wouldn’t be seen as a compliment to call someone a Yank/American. It would be taken as an insult. That doesn’t mean that the word Yank/American is an insult.

    Things are good Patrick. Work keeps me very busy, though I seem to spend more time in North America and Asia than I do Ireland at the moment.

  90. My point is Pat that the attempted insult is sectarian and regardless of your political beliefs or ancestral heritage the fact that you’re a Catholic would brand you a Fenian to a loyalist.

  91. ahh I thank you both for the education.

    and I do mean that.

    Glad to hear Chris, and please join the conversation more often the atmosphere has gotten more conducive to actual conversations on subjects than it was in the old days.

  92. Cheers Pat, that’s because in the old days we had certain loons not intent on rational discourse.

  93. “The left of center media generally downplays this violence, the left politicians tend to never mention it.If you bring this stuff up to a woke lefty here, watch how quick they change the subject.”

    And the right of centre media generally lies about this sort of violence. What the Washington Times article you quoted fails to mention is that John Blum was also pictured with a baton running towards the Antifa members armed with a baton.

    So the story isn’t old man gets attacked by Antifa. It is old man picks a fight and loses.

  94. Are you a ‘woke lefty’ Seamus? Phantom seldom if ever identifies his collective nouns.

  95. I think the problem with ‘woke’ is that is applied to quite a broad range of people. In jest it is largely applied to people who go out of their way to be seen as ‘allies’ to gay rights or women’s groups etc… trying a wee bit to hard to show they are a nice guy.

    Increasingly it means anyone who isn’t a complete dick. So for some people I probably am ‘woke’.

  96. Charles, you’re right (Jul 2, 23:44) and that was a horrible remark I made above yours…just a moment of “internet rage” I guess (I could/would never actually perpetrate such an act of violence in real life)…but it gets so darn annoying seeing these vile far-left thugs acting with impunity while the police (seemingly deliberatlely? Under orders?) stand by and don’t enforce the law.

  97. Think nothing of it, Brexi, lesson learned I guess. I go over the top myself! 🙂

    Here’s an article you might like, from a former and reformed Antifa member.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/gabriel-nadales-im-a-former-antifa-member-and-enough-is-enough-antifa-must-be-stopped