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DARROCH IS A DISGRACE

By Pete Moore On July 9th, 2019

One would have thought that Our Man in Washington would have been an Atlanticist, intent on building the closest co-operation with our most important ally. That Sir Kim Darroch is an EU man is sadly no surprise. He was the wrong man appointed to the wrong job at the wrong time by a Tory government which is still coming to terms with events in 2016.

Even so I’d have said he should be left in place until recalled later this year. But his peddling of cocktail party tittle-tattle and lies about the President makes him unfit to carry on.

He needs to be defenestrated.

137 Responses to “DARROCH IS A DISGRACE”

  1. Oh so predictable. Pete doing his pathetic bend over for big man Trump act yet again.

  2. As I said last month the British Trumpers are Trumpers first, and British second, and will celebrate him taking a piss on their country.

  3. “One would have thought that Our Man in Washington would have been an Atlanticist, intent on building the closest co-operation with our most important ally.”

    He is, and as part of his duties in the role he was communicating his accurate analysis of the current US administration.

    Unfortunately he seems to have been sabotaged by the leaking of his analysis to some pro Brexit hack.

    Trump’s reaction proved the accuracy of Darroch’s description of him as thin-skinned.

  4. The ambassador spoke with candor and accuracy in a private correspondence. That’s his job.

    The problem is with the leak.

    This is not good for the UK, now trapped between a chilly EU and a madcap US administration that cherishes its grudges more than it does its alliances.

  5. Seamus –

    The president is taking a piss on the British establishment, which many of us absolutely welcome. It makes a change from them pissing on everyone else.

  6. Trump wants to fuck your country Pete and your response is to bend over and grab your ankles.

  7. The problem is with the leak.

    Exactly. A British Ambassador has not been named persona non grata in 100 years. Time for him to be recalled.

  8. If Darroch is declared persona non grata then the retaliation should be of equal measure and Woody Johnson should be sent back to continue ruining his NFL team.

  9. Who leaked?

    I doubt that it was the ambassador.

    Cui bono?

  10. You almost want to have all correspondence verbal now.

    The ambassador gave highly accurate comments in what was supposed to be a secure channel.

    What should he have done differently? Spoken opaquely back to his home government?

  11. The fault is not with the ambassador. His job is to give his government a frank assessment of his post. The problem is with the leak, which has soured relations with our president, and made a working relationship untenable.

    Qui bono?

    I suspect that this has more to do with rivalries at the Foreign Office in London than anything happening in Washington. In fact, it undermines the ENTIRE F.O. as it’s lines of communication have been found out as not secure.

  12. “Cui bono?”

    That provides the most difficult part of this. The people who could benefit, in many different ways, are quite varied.

    The most likely scenario is someone who doesn’t like Kim Darroch and wants him replaced as ambassador. The internal politics of the Foreign Office suddenly come into play.

    There is also the outside possibility, but possibility none the less, that these leaks were leaked by a third party government (Russia, China etc…) who want to drive a wedge between the US and UK Governments. I doubt that is the case but it probably can’t be ruled out.

    It could have been someone trying to influence the Conservative leadership race. The inevitable overreaction from the Trump administration was always going to draw conflict between Trump and Hunt. Trump is relatively a marmite figure with the Tory party (you either love him or hate him) so it could be either side trying to draw a Hunt v Trump battle. The Boris camp may want Hunt to alienate Trump supporters in the very week that they start the voting for Tory leader. The Hunt camp may want to create some sort of Hugh Grant Love Actually moment.

  13. It is true that you want your Ambassodor to tell it like it is but, this one went beyond that and repeated unproven allegations and lies about President Trump. He was biased and that clouded his judgement. He was found out and must fall on his sword or be recalled. This will only get worse if not.

  14. What in the cables were “unproven allegations and lies”?

  15. Seamus

    He failed to jump up and down squealing that Trump was the best President EVER, which is what Pete Moore Nigel Farage, Mark B and other Trump groupies expect him to say.

  16. So it would seem. Most of the stuff in the cables seems to be true. In fact some of it is almost proven by Trump’s ludicrous overreaction to this.

  17. screw him…… the pompous ass should be placed on a boat and sent home.

    The British Government was heavily involved in trying to frame Trump so those of you who are spouting all this holier than though we Brits are a class act should take a nice deep breath and pray he’s not spiteful.

  18. “screw him…… the pompous ass should be placed on a boat and sent home.”

    Is that Darroch or Trump?

  19. The British government tried to frame Trump.

    The only honest guy in the entire world is honest Donald Trump.

  20. according to a two year anal exame yeah Phantom he is…..

  21. GCHQ first became aware in late 2015 of suspicious “interactions” between figures connected to Trump and known or suspected Russian agents, a source close to UK intelligence said. This intelligence was passed to the US as part of a routine exchange of information, they added.

    Over the next six months, until summer 2016, a number of western agencies shared further information on contacts between Trump’s inner circle and Russians, sources said.

    The European countries that passed on electronic intelligence – known as sigint – included Germany, Estonia and Poland. Australia, a member of the “Five Eyes” spying alliance that also includes the US, UK, Canada and New Zealand, also relayed material, one source said.

  22. here don’t most of you think the scumbag spy Assange is so wonderful….

    https://www.teaparty.org/assange-suggests-british-government-involved-plot-bring-trump-297181/

  23. Assange is a prat but much of what Wikileaks did was genuinely in the public interest.

  24. Assange is a Russian tool.

  25. he’s waiting for a bullet

  26. Seamus –

    Trump wants to fuck your country Pete

    Not at all. The president likes the UK. His mother is British and he has investments here.

    The EU wants to screw us. It has said so. It has said that no country leaving the EU should be allowed to prosper from that decision.

    The US is a long-standing ally. The EU is hostile. Its explicit reason for being is to dismantle the nation states of Europe.

  27. If the EU had in the last 3 years treated the UK with 1/10th the disrespect Trump has treated them to in the last 24 hours then the Brexiteers would have lost their shit in complaining about it.

  28. Seamus –

    You are clearly a “my country right or wrong” type whereas I’m dispassionate. It allows me to see that the president is criticising the PM and the ambassador. Because I’m dispassionate, I don’t regard such criticism as being directed at my country. It’s criticism which I think is justified. You, on the other hand, seem to think that May has been a stunningly successful Brexit negotiator.

    It also appears that you are unaware of the routine and extremely rude comments from the EU’s leaders and their threats against our wealth and liberties.

  29. So Seamus as the investigations unfold and If I’ll give you an If because the reports aren’t official yet, but if it is found that British intelligence was involved in framing Trump and attacking the American Election…. which according to “circumstantial” evidence they did….

    Should we declare war on GB ?

    They attacked our country’s election….. that’s an act of War.

  30. Seamus

    Peter Moore thinks that when Trump rants and raves and insults any British political or public figure the only response we as a country should do is to grovel an apology to him , sack whoever may have annoyed him and debase ourselves in any way that might mitigate his childish temper.

  31. that sounds about right,,,,,,

  32. We know that 3 country’s were involved in helping frame Trump Russia, Australia, and England.

    and as you go left to right the active involvement grows…. so what do we do about our number 1 ally interfering in our election…. ?

    Funny how that question didn’t get answer…..

  33. Bomb the Brits 😉

  34. ….. nah but we can definitely screw with them…..

  35. //Trump’s reaction proved the accuracy of Darroch’s description of him as thin-skinned.//

    Exactly. Trump first fires back publicly at the ambassador for what Darroch had said privately.

    Then he sleeps on it, and wakes up to give an even more petulant broadside, calling the ambassador “a stupid guy” and a failure. Then also dragging Theresa May and her goverenment into it, saying that he gave her good advice on Brexit, and if she’d followed it everything would be fine, but she ignored it and now it’s all such a mess.
    This all just after Theresa May did her best to make Trump feel welcome on his recent visit.

    FFS

    This spat is welcome to many foreign governments and movements, but none of them is a friend of either the US or the UK.

    Seems that Britain will either have to react, and at the very least insist on its right to keep whoever it chooses as its representative abroad, or – with PM Johnson – become even more the lapdog of Washington. No marks for guessing which option Pete would support.

  36. This president has been exceptionally disrespectful of Britain since sneaking into office, far more anti UK than any other president.

    Including the very public second-guessing of the Brexit negotiations, against a US friendly British PM in a difficult position, involving an issue that he knows little about, and other barstool and unsolicited and unfriendly advice that he has given, all with the condescending sneer of the ignorant, to the elected government of the British people.

  37. ahhh you people do know these cables by the ambassador was leaked by s brit….. someone in the May’s government did this….

  38. and Mr I bad mouth my country on it’s birthday….. Trump didn’t sneak in. He won an Electoral Landslide… but you can just keep foaming at the mouth antifa boy

  39. Patrick Van Roy,

    //and Mr I bad mouth my country on it’s birthday…..//

    Was that the day Europeans nicked it off the native population?

  40. No one ” bad mouthed the country ”

    Only a complete imbecile would read it that way.

    Our political system is bad, it is corrupt, it is rigged.

    Even the president who you worship so slavishly day and night has said so, calling it a ” rigged system “, openly speaking about how he had manipulated it as a developer in NYC and other places, buying politicians on the cheap.

    If you want to praise the corrupt system, be my guest. You’re the only one here who thinks that it’s so great, the only one here who thinks that corporate power in politics should never be criticized.

  41. Trump’s electoral margin – 46th highest out of 58 elections

    What a landslide

    The only president in the modern era who got electoral landslide was President Reagan ( twice ) and Richard Nixon, if you go back a bit further.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_elections_by_Electoral_College_margin

  42. “You, on the other hand, seem to think that May has been a stunningly successful Brexit negotiator.”

    Nope I think May has been a terrible negotiator. She issued red line after red line after red line, leaving only a very narrow area where agreement could be found. And that narrow area didn’t have the support of Parliament.

    “It also appears that you are unaware of the routine and extremely rude comments from the EU’s leaders and their threats against our wealth and liberties.”

    Such as?

    “So Seamus as the investigations unfold and If I’ll give you an If because the reports aren’t official yet, but if it is found that British intelligence was involved in framing Trump and attacking the American Election…. which according to “circumstantial” evidence they did….”

    Trump wasn’t framed. There were allegations made. Those allegations were invistgated. At no point was it framed.

    “They attacked our country’s election….. that’s an act of War.”

    For someone who goes ape shit at the suggestion that you are a conspiracy theorist you seem to have a lot of tinfoil hat theories. The UK had intelligence that Trump had links to the Russians. They passed that intelligence onto the relevant authorities in the US. That is the act of an ally.

    “Trump didn’t sneak in. He won an Electoral Landslide”

    Firstly Trump got 304 electoral votes (or 306 if you discount the faithless electors). That is 57% of the electoral college. In the 58th Presidential election that was the 44th highest. He is in the bottom quarter of Presidents when it comes to their electoral college win. Worse than both of Obama’s results. So yes. A relatively narrow result, even in the electoral college, never mind the popular vote (which he lost).

    Additionally it takes only a minor swing from Trump to Clinton for Trump to lose the election. 0.39% is what I calculated. 0.39%. Put 10,000 people in a stadium and get 39 of those 10,000 people to change their mind and the election outcome is different. That is a close election. That is a narrow win.

  43. you bad mouthed your country on it’s birthday antifa boy

  44. //He won an Electoral Landslide//

    Trump didn’t win anything like a landslide. You don’t know the American election system.
    He got 304 or 57 pc of the electoral votes. That’s very far from a landslide.

    Most voters also didn’t even give him their vote.

    Obama won a far higher number of the electoral colleage both times he ran (365 and 332). I don’t remember you mentioning anything about a “landslide” then.

    56.9 percent,

  45. “you bad mouthed your country on it’s birthday antifa boy”

    He didn’t. You talked shite. He corrected you. That isn’t bad mouthing anything.

  46. For someone who goes ape shit at the suggestion that you are a conspiracy theorist you seem to have a lot of tinfoil hat theories. The UK had intelligence that Trump had links to the Russians. They passed that intelligence onto the relevant authorities in the US. That is the act of an ally.

    NOT when it’s false information. And more people than Steele were involved… the Brits interfered with our election more than the Russians did. That’s a fact, deal with it.

  47. “NOT when it’s false information.”

    Prove it was false.

    “And more people than Steele were involved… the Brits interfered with our election more than the Russians did. That’s a fact, deal with it.”

    No they didn’t. They had intelligence that a potential key member of the US government had links to a foreign hostile regime. Should they have kept that to themselves?

  48. An ally doesn’t mouth off at its friends from the sidelines when they’re struggling to get something done

    It is not in the US national interest that the UK leave the EU this way or that way, or that they leave it at all. It is in the US national interest that we have continued friendly relations with the UK, with the EU and with the countries that are in the EU. And it is in our national interest that our allies are continue to be friendly after Brexit or anything else.

    Trump has been very anti EU and very anti UK in substantially all of this. He has been a very negative critic in a very public way, when none of that comment was in anyway necessary.

  49. you got nerve also Noel…. you believed the collusion you Conspiracy Kook

  50. That “56.9 percent” was Trump’s share of the electoral college.

    But I see Seamus got in before me.

  51. And it is in our national interest that our allies are continue to be friendly – with one another – after Brexit or anything else.

  52. And Phantom got in before me. We all reacted in pretty much the same way to Patrick’s obvious bullshit.

  53. no he just sends back gift busts because he doesn’t want anything from that evil colonial empire in his whit house…. oh wait sorry that was Obama.

  54. He offered the Brits a trade deal that would make up for anything they would lose with Brexit it is you guys spewing bullshit.

  55. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/22/barack-obama-winston-churchill-bust-oval-office-britain

    Fake news, from the Hannitized

    But he’ll repeat it for another 20 years

    Time for a Uranium One yarn repeat

  56. “no he just sends back gift busts because he doesn’t want anything from that evil colonial empire in his whit house…. oh wait sorry that was Obama.”

    More conspiracy theory stuff there Patrick.

    There were two busts – one in the Oval Office – which was a gift to Dubya. The UK lent the bust of Churchill as a personal gift from Tony Blair to George W Bush. When Bush’s term expired so did the loan. The other, the one in the Residence, has been there since the 1960s.

    Obama removed neither. One was loan which expired. The other was still there when he left office.

  57. “He offered the Brits a trade deal that would make up for anything they would lose with Brexit it is you guys spewing bullshit.”

    In exchange for the UK lowering their food safety standards, privatising the National Health Service etc…

  58. 306 to 232 is a landslide

  59. “306 to 232 is a landslide”

    Bottom quarter of presidential elections.

  60. Keep spinning Seamus… the Brits and the Aussies were involved in the Frame.

    Facts are Facts.

  61. And 306 to 232 is a landslide, while 370 to 168 is a technicality (won because of some other guy).

  62. The US can’t make up for anything that the UK loses in Brexit

    Europe is closer than the US, Europe is the natural more dominant source of the UK’s imports and exports.

    This won’t change.

    And why should a highly disrespectful predator be trusted to negotiate anything on fair terms?

    He will show the UK the same respect that he showed small contractors when he was in the casino rackets in Atlantic City.

  63. “Keep spinning Seamus… the Brits and the Aussies were involved in the Frame.”

    There was no frame. There has never been a single piece of evidence to suggest that the intelligence offered by the likes of the UK intelligence servies was false.

    “Facts are Facts.”

    They are. And tinfoil hat theories are tinfoil hat theories. How very Aberdonian of you.

  64. and the leak to get rid of the Ambassador came from the British Government so who on that side of the pond started this roe with the Ambassador… ?

    Not a yank. It was a Brit…. ya git.

  65. “Not a yank. It was a Brit…. ya git.”

    No one said it was an American who did it.

  66. There was no frame. There has never been a single piece of evidence to suggest that the intelligence offered by the likes of the UK intelligence servies was false.

    lmao

  67. “lmao”

    Ok. Where is your evidence?

  68. Darroch is gone.

    I wonder will this damage Johnson’s chances after his dallying last night.

  69. Alex Jones remains a great friend of Trump, and Robinson.

    Let’s not forget that.

    That’s not forget that when any of the US or UK Trumpers pipe up.

    They all swim in the same waters.

  70. Seamus still believes Trump colluded roflmao

  71. “Seamus still believes Trump colluded roflmao”

    Show me a single piece of evidence to suggest that the intelligence offered by the likes of the UK intelligence servies was false.

  72. yes Antifa boy and Bloomberg, Cuomo and Clinton all rode on the Lolita Express

  73. Show me a single piece of evidence to suggest that the intelligence offered by the likes of the UK intelligence servies was false.

    It’s called the Mueller Report…..

  74. “It’s called the Mueller Report…..”

    Where in the Mueller Report does it say the intelligence offered by the UK intelligence services was false?

    “yes Antifa boy and Bloomberg, Cuomo and Clinton all rode on the Lolita Express”

    So did Trump.

  75. All collusion was FALSE…. they said he was “colluding” what part of that wasn’t false?

  76. So did Trump.

    wrong…. he never went to pervert Island he caught one ride 20yrs ago from Miami to NY, but you keep spinning sunny

  77. “All collusion was FALSE…. they said he was “colluding” what part of that wasn’t false?”

    Show me a single piece of evidence to suggest that the intelligence offered by the likes of the UK intelligence services was false.

  78. So did Trump, and so did Alan Dershowitz ( the genius OJ lawyer )

    Trump was great friends with Epstein, who hung out at Mar A Lago on many occasions

    There are reports of an episode where Trump closed the resort down so that just he and Epstein could watch young girls pass by in a leery show just for them

    Both Trump and Dershowitz ( the genius OJ lawyer ) rode the Lolita Express to the sex slave island.

  79. there is testimony from two girls that they had sex with Dershowitz no one is saying that about Trump keep trying Antifa…

  80. Oh What a Tangled Web we weave when first we practice to deceive……

  81. Your president rode the Lolita Express to the sex slave island as guest of Epstein and he spoke admiringly of Espstein’s appetite for young girls.

    And your president’s Secretary of Labor organized a very sweet deal for Epstein that violated important law.

    A lot of people, including prominent Democrats and Republicans and businessmen, are very nervous about the current investigation by the Southern District of NY.

    Epstein was very connected to all the levers of power in NY and in Florida.

  82. Trump has been accused.

    https://www.vox.com/2019/7/9/20686347/jeffrey-epstein-trump-bill-clinton

    This is the only accusation against Trump for Epstein-related wrongdoing. An anonymous woman sued Trump in 2016, claiming that in 1994, he violently raped her at an orgy hosted by Epstein. She said she was 13 years old at the time, and accused Epstein of raping her as well. She first filed suit in California under the name “Katie Johnson,” and when it was thrown out there for technical reasons, she filed it in New York under “Jane Doe.”

    But many journalists were wary about this claim. There was no corroborating evidence offered (except for affidavits from two anonymous people claiming to have been told of or witnessed it), and the suit appeared “to have been orchestrated by an eccentric anti-Trump campaigner with a record of making outlandish claims about celebrities,” the Guardian’s Jon Swaine wrote. Jezebel’s Anna Merlan tried for some time to get to the bottom of what was going on and concluded in June 2016, “The facts speak less to a scandal and more, perhaps, to an attempt at a smear.”

    Trump himself said, “The allegations are not only categorically false, but disgusting at the highest level and clearly framed to solicit media attention or, perhaps, are simply politically motivated.”

    All that was before the Access Hollywood tape and before many women had spoken out publicly to accuse Trump of sexual assault. But even after that, the anonymity of “Katie Johnson” and the sketchiness of her associates kept mainstream US journalists wary about this accusation. She ended up withdrawing her lawsuit days before the 2016 election; her attorney Lisa Bloom said it was because she was getting death threats.

  83. If any of the British here run into Prince Andrew, do send him my regards.

  84. Antifa Boy…. like it or not Trump is your President too…. unless you’ve renounced your citizenship and have decided to go to one of those better country’s.

  85. Sorry you can try to change the topic all you want. Trump had nothing to do with Epstein he physically through him out of the bar at Mar a Lago 15yrs ago.

    The British Government was involved in the Frame. The Ambassador did his job and gave his personal evaluation of Trump and someone in the British Government leaked it to sabotage him.

    He has resigned. The Brits were involved in attacking an American election creating false intelligence. That was approved by Sir Charles Farr.

  86. “The British Government was involved in the Frame.”

    Show a single piece of evidence to suggest that the intelligence offered by the likes of the UK intelligence services was false.

  87. did Trump collude…. NO

    The british intel said he did…. you can’t get more false.

  88. Show a single piece of evidence to suggest that the intelligence offered by the likes of the UK intelligence services was false.

  89. https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiDzrHDvKrjAhXLLFAKHasqAxsQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.com%2Fnews%2Fworld-us-canada-48927942&psig=AOvVaw1eangMvTzNnizKH_gCxeMk&ust=1562852263190986

    Never met him, not even once.

  90. no one said he never met him antifa boy…….

    Gee those pics look they were taken yesterday….lol

  91. “Gee those pics look they were taken yesterday….lol”

    Probably about the same amount of time ago that Epstein knew Clinton.

  92. So who is going to replace the Ambassador?

  93. Tommy Robinson

  94. Julian Assange. Then he’ll have diplomatic immunity.

  95. god forbid

  96. my comment was response to Robinson

  97. It seems that yet again the petulant President is at odds with the administration?

    Following Mr Trump’s comments on Monday that the US would “no longer deal” with Sir Kim, the US State Department said it would continue “to deal with any accredited individuals until we get any further guidance from the White House or the president”.

    “We have an incredibly special and strategic relationship with the United Kingdom that has gone on for quite a long time – it’s bigger than any individual or government,” the department added.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48921243

    Kim Darroch was of course doing his job as a senior civil servant and giving a dispassionate, frank analysis as he saw it. The petulant reaction of the man child seems to prove much of what he said was spot on.

  98. “So who is going to replace the Ambassador?”

    Hard to tell. It could depend on whether or not May appoints someone or lets the position lay dormant (or with a temporary replacement). If May appoints someone new I’d imagine it will be another member of the diplomatic service. Someone like Tim Barrow, or Ivan Rogers. It could be another senior civil servant instead (Mark Sedwill, the Cabinet Secretary has been mentioned, or Jon Cunliffe). If she leaves it to the next Prime Minister, especially if it is Boris Johnson, it increases the chance that it will be a political appointee who is more pro-Brexit, pro-Trump.

  99. Captain Hook

  100. It’s a funny old world:

    Man tells the truth and is forced to resign
    Man lies through his teeth time and time again and is made British Prime Minister.

  101. Part of me wouldn’t be shocked if as part of a deal between Boris Johnson and the Brexit Party (an alliance, an agreement for the later to stand down etc…) that Boris appoints Nigel Farage to the position.

  102. truth is stranger than fiction

  103. The US and UK high power elite could become a bad boys club of practical jokers and charletans, even more than at any time before.

  104. Boris appoints Nigel Farage to the position

    I think that’s a very plausible scenario.

    https://newsthump.com/2019/07/10/search-begins-for-new-uk-ambassador-who-is-happy-to-pretend-donald-trump-isnt-a-moron/

  105. The outgoing ambassador should be hired to do TV commentary on US/European affairs. He sounds like a smart guy

  106. “I think that’s a very plausible scenario.”

    Sadly it is getting to stage where we don’t need satire sites like that anymore. The actual real life events are satire enough.

    “The outgoing ambassador should be hired to do TV commentary on US/European affairs. He sounds like a smart guy”

    He could do. Christopher Meyer, another former ambassador to the US, is never off the TV.

  107. Trump has made this guy famous in the US and in Britain.

    The excellent Sir Darroch may have reason to thank Trump before long.

  108. I think that’s a very plausible scenario.

    I was referrin to your Bojo / Farage scenario as opposed to the site Seamus.

    The excellent Sir Darroch may have reason to thank Trump before long.

    I think you may be correct Phantom. I don’t think this will have done Kim Darroch any harm at all and freed from his diplomatic shackles it’ll be interesting to see if there are any further developments.

  109. A little gardening leave for him, just enough time to start writing a book.

  110. //if as part of a deal between Boris Johnson and the Brexit Party (an alliance, an agreement for the later to stand down etc…) that Boris appoints Nigel Farage to the position.//

    Oh Noooooooooo !!!

  111. LONDON (The Borowitz Report)—Following the resignation of its Ambassador to the United States, Kim Darroch, the government of the United Kingdom has disclosed that it has been unable to find a replacement for Darroch who does not also think that Donald J. Trump is a blithering idiot.

    At a press conference at 10 Downing Street, the British Prime Minister, Theresa May, revealed that the search for a new ambassador who does not believe that Trump is an imbecile has thus far come up empty.

    “We did not want a repeat of the unfortunate Kim Darroch incident, so we made the first question on the job application, ‘Do you think Donald Trump is a moron?’ ” May said. “So far, none of the applicants has checked the ‘no’ box.”

    May acknowledged that the government might have to expand its search for applicants beyond those with diplomatic experience in order to find a replacement for Darroch who does not consider Trump a dolt.

  112. Antifa boy left off the last two Paragraphs…

    “We will search high and low until we find someone in this country who doesn’t think Donald Trump is a nitwit,” she said. “We’re starting by interviewing people who don’t think Boris Johnson is a nitwit.”

    While affirming her government’s determination to find someone in the U.K. who does not think Trump is an unmitigated bonehead, May warned that the difficulty of the task must not be underestimated. “This is turning out to be harder than Brexit,” she said

  113. Those last two paragraphs reinforce what Phantom’s text says Pat.

  114. Pat doesn’t believe in editing.

    It’s all the usual bla bla bla

  115. Darroch’s resignation was inevitable when the despicable Trump arse-licker Boris Johnson refused to support him yesterday.

    Johnson will no doubt seek Trump’s approval before replacing the ambassador. And super patriot Pete Moore will approve of the arse-licking.

  116. From Brexieer Brendan O’Neill comes a rebuke to Trump arse-licker Boris:

    “There’s a new way of testing if someone is genuinely committed to the ideal of national sovereignty. Let’s call it the Darroch Test. Will you stand up to any foreign leader who arrogantly presumes the right to tell Britain who its ambassadors overseas should be? Or will you cave in to that foreign leader and effectively let him or her dictate the make-up of Britain’s diplomatic corps?

    That’s the Darroch Test. That’s the new national sovereignty test. And, sadly, many Brexiteers, the people who are meant to be standing up for the sovereign rights of the British nation against foreign oligarchies and bureaucratic bullies, have failed it…

    Darroch did nothing wrong. Ambassadors have been sending stinging private assessments of the nations they’ve been packed off to for as long as diplomacy has existed. It’s part of the job. The wrongdoing was the leaker’s, whoever that was. The leaking of such sensitive cables suggests there’s a serious problem in the Foreign Office.

    Following the leak, Trump said he would no longer deal with Darroch. And right then a challenge was laid down to the British establishment: would it defend Darroch, and by extension Britain’s sovereign right to choose its own ambassadors, or would it give in to Trump and let him effectively decide who should represent the UK overseas?

    Too many of them have done the latter. Including Brexiteers. Including the Brexit party, which has spent the past few days demanding that Darroch bugger off, and Boris, whose failure to defend Darroch in last night’s Tory leadership TV debate was stark and telling.

    These are people who are supposed to be taking back control. Who are meant to be resuscitating Britain’s sovereign rights. Who have promised to bring legal, political, economic and diplomatic affairs back under the say-so of ordinary Britons and the people we actually elect.

    And yet they flat-out failed to confront Trump, whose comments on Darroch — he branded him a ‘stupid fool’ and a ‘pompous guy’ and said his administration would no longer work with him — were in essence an ultimatum: get rid of this guy or there will be trouble…”

    https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/07/why-wont-brexiteers-stand-up-to-donald-trump/

  117. Trump is a sullen, ignorant thug.

    He doesn’t have our interests in mind, and he certainly doesn’t have yours in mind.

    And yes your ambassador didn’t do one thing wrong here. He can be a hero to both our Atlantic peoples.

  118. If Johnson appointed Farrage the entire FO would probably resign.

    The UK should have stood strong on Darroch, a government should not hold an ambassador responsible for a leak he did not make. Humoring Trump is foolish, Trump has no idea how to be an ally, his only loyalty is to himself.

  119. NY

    The UK government did stand strong on Darroch. What made him resign today was the pointed failure of the presumed next PM and Trump groupie Boris Johnson to support him. Jonhson’s priority is to stay up Trump’s ass, the further the better, and if that means throwing an ambassador to the wolves he will happily do that. Needless to add that he was supported by the usual suspects, led by fellow-groupie Nigel Farage, who will never ever ever be ambassador to the USA. As in never.

  120. Peter

    Boris is a fool in every way possible. If he thinks he will be an ally of Trump, he will soon find himself under the bus. The fool thinks Trump will give him a trade deal but only the US Congress can do that and they have said there will be no deal whatsoever if there is a hard border and not a backstop.

  121. NY

    Yes, the so-called “free trade deal” with Trump is just another Johnson big lie. It would mean the end of most UK agriculture and a significant lowering of food standards. Oh, and the end of the NHS which would be “opened up” to Trump’s US Big Pharma pals so that increased drugs costs would bankrupt it in no time.

    I wouldn’t bet on Congress stopping it. The Senate is Trump’s bitch and I’m not sure if the Dem majority in the House is big enough.

  122. Peter

    The House Democrats would certainly not approve a trade deal if there is a hard border and no backstop. In addition, if the UK left the EU without agreement they would be an outlaw nation and not trustworthy, especially in trade.

  123. Why would the UK be an outlaw nation?

    Because they would be in breach of the hard won Good Friday agreement?

  124. Johnson will live to regret his pro-Trump stance on Darroch. Watch out out for a lot of bad leaks coming his way as soon as he gets into Downing Street. What goes around comes around:

    “In a shock move which prompted the senior civil servant at the Foreign Office to call an all-staff meeting to reassure “shaken” diplomats, Darroch announced on Wednesday he could no longer continue in his role following a leak of official cables in which he criticised Donald Trump. The Guardian understands that he concluded he could not go on after he watched Tuesday’s Conservative leadership TV debate, where Johnson repeatedly dodged questions about whether he would sack the ambassador if he became PM. Downing Street is so uncomfortable with the outcome that Theresa May is understood to be considering appointing a new ambassador in her last week as prime minister. That would upend protocol amid concerns Johnson could seek to make a controversial political appointment in the hope of pleasing Trump.

    A broad political consensus has emerged that Johnson’s refusal to back Darroch had made the diplomat’s position untenable. Senior Conservative MPs joined the direct criticism of the leadership contender, describing his conduct as “unedifying” and “contemptible”. Tom Tugendhat, the chair of the foreign affairs select committee, asked: “If you do not support those you put into very difficult positions, what do you think is going to happen?”

    In language that will be viewed as an implicit rebuke of Johnson, Theresa May told MPs: “I hope the house will reflect on the importance of defending our values and principles, particularly when they are under pressure.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jul/10/kim-darroch-resigns-as-uk-ambassador-to-us-after-leaked-trump-comment

  125. Darroch’s peers in the Washington diplomatic community ( except for Israel and UAE ) Are discretely quoted in the NYT as Saying that they’ve pretty much all sent similar corro back to their home countries

    They are supposed to tell the truth in their correspondence home

  126. Yes Trump doesn’t have our interests in mind, and he certainly doesn’t have yours in mind…..

    He is after all Putin’s Puppet who colluded with him to beat Hillary so he could destroy the United States and all our Allies….

    What sort of group psychedelic drugs are you all on…… ?

  127. Are discretely quoted in the NYT as Saying that they’ve pretty much all sent similar corro back to their home countries

    all anonymously sourced of course…. lmao

  128. can any of you master strategists that were bending over backwards to say the Iranians didn’t blow up the Jap ships…. some of you even blaming the US.

    Lets here your spin on this one …… c’mon don’t let me down this thread alone shows how active your imaginations are….

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9482610/iran-standoff-royal-navy-oil-tanker/

  129. //Darroch’s peers in the Washington diplomatic community ( except for Israel and UAE ) Are discretely quoted in the NYT as Saying that they’ve pretty much all sent similar corro back to their home countries//

    Of course. People also forget the “Cablegate” affair of 2010, brought to us by the Assange-Manning team, where US diplomats gave their frank but confidential views of their host governments.

    I remember Angela Merkel was described as being “rarely creative” and a “teflon” chancellor, while the German foreign minister was called “incompetent” and “vain”.
    The French president was described as being “thin skinned” and “an Emperor without clothes”.

    But, as far as I know, all of them were psychologically mature enough to ignore the comments, and confined their reactions to condemning the leaking of confidential messages.

    But Trump of course has none of this psychological stability and thus stays up at night on Twitter calling the UK diplomat “very stupid” and making personal comments about members of the government of America’s most important ally.

  130. Speaking of secret conversations:

    Revealed: The Explosive Secret Recording That Shows How Russia Tried To Funnel Millions To The “European Trump”

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/albertonardelli/salvini-russia-oil-deal-secret-recording

    Proof that Russia is funding the anti EU far right in the EU. I suppose some ‘globalists’ are acceptable to Pete & Allan.

  131. buzzfeed huh the same place they published the “dossier” in…. oh ok

  132. so and no one cares about a British oil tanker trying to be seized….. c’mon I want to hear ow it was the Cajun navy trying to seize that ship…….

  133. Yes Pat, Buzzfeed:

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-italy-salvini-russia/italys-salvini-denies-his-league-party-took-money-from-russians-idUSKCN1U52MF

    Here’s the transcript of the recording:

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/buzzfeednews/transcript-lega-russia-oil-deal-meeting

  134. lmao….

  135. At what?

  136. Paul you are falling into the eternal troll trap when they can’t disprove the facts they deride the source

  137. Who leaked these emails and why? Here is a decent guess:

    ” Johnson – a former foreign secretary who should have known better – spectacularly failed to do the right thing, to show leadership, or to defend Britain’s interests. He could very easily have defended Darroch, as Jeremy Hunt did. If Britain’s relationship with the US is indeed strong and special, it would undoubtedly have survived. Instead he sent a signal of weakness that Trump, the most transactional of presidents, will surely seize upon – and one that will have been noted by the EU’s Brexit negotiators as well.

    One more thing. Johnson also conspicuously failed to condemn the real villain of this lamentable saga – the person who betrayed Darroch, damaged British interests and committed a criminal offence, under the Official Secrets Act, by leaking his cables.

    There is little doubt in my mind that this person was a Brexiteer. The leak was made to Isabel Oakeshott, one of Nigel Farage and Arron Banks’ favourite journalists. It was placed in the Mail on Sunday, a vigorous champion of Brexit. And the net result has been to create a vacancy in Washington that prime minister Johnson can fill with a pro-Brexit zealot.”

    https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2019/07/boris-johnson-has-failed-his-first-big-test-potential-prime-minister