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The we haven’t done squat squad……

By Patrick Van Roy On July 16th, 2019

Reps. Rashida Tlaib, Ayanna Pressley, Ilhan Omar and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez…. 

Newly seated Representatives in America’s House of Representatives…. the People’s House.  I believe these four Ladies earned their place and deserve to be heard. Each one ran for office. Each one Won their seat in the Peoples House fair and square.

This is what our system is based on, the Freedom to speak your mind and your views on how you believe things should be done. These women ran for office on these views and Won, their constituencies agree with the views and opinions that these 4 woman promote.

You can disagree with absolutely everything they have to say, but as granted by natures creator they have the right to say it.

116 Responses to “The we haven’t done squat squad……”

  1. But are they Americans Patrick ?

  2. 100% American.

  3. So when Trump told them to go back to their own countries your President was supporting and pandering to a blatantly white nationalist view of what being American means ?

  4. President Trump is not a politician. So he is going to say things in a way that will have a few cringing at least or, going ballistic at worst. But he loves his country and wants to do the best for it. Sadly, for personal political reasons, there are those who do not.

    Right sentiment wrong wording.

  5. Right sentiment wrong wording doesn’t make sense. He said these women should go back to the countries they came from. If that is the right sentiment then he used the right wording. If he was wrong to say those words then the sentiment was also wrong. You can’t have it both ways.

  6. They haven’t done squat, unlike some guy who built a wall on the southern US border, made Mexico pay for it, and drained the Whitehouse swamp.

  7. It also has to be said that some of the comments here excusing Trump’s remarks are pretty pathetic.
    Trump racist remarks are because of Obama’s election. He isn’t a politico, (neither are these woman then? So it’s okay to tell them to ‘go back to where they came from’ (3/4 are from the US), ridiculous.

  8. Trump allies Laura Ingraham, Michael Savage, NY Post have all said the same thing..that his undisciplined comment was a gift to the opposition, at the moment when there was harmful infighting within Democrat circles.

    Trump unified the Democrats, when they had been angrily splitting apart

    https://nypost.com/2019/07/15/trumps-incendiary-go-back-tweets-were-a-gift-to-the-enemy/

  9. https://twitter.com/ImIncorrigible/status/1151078496669712384

  10. As Ingraham went off on the progressive “squad” Trump attacked, she had this to say about his tweets:

    “Yes, the president made an unforced error, I would say that, and that tweet telling the women to go back to places from which they came––three of the four were born in America. But the idea that he’s hitting them because they’re people or women of color is absurd. Who doesn’t Trump hit? He was hitting Paul Ryan last week. He’s hitting them because their views in his mind and the mind of millions of Americans are insanely radical.”

    She said if “anyone sounded racist” this past weekend, it was Ayanna Pressley for saying, “If you’re not prepared to come to that table and to represent that voice, don’t come. Because we don’t need any brown faces that don’t want to be a brown voice. We don’t need black faces that don’t want to be a black voice. We don’t need Muslims that don’t want to be a Muslim voice. We don’t need queers that don’t want to be a queer voice.”

    ( mediaite )

    The site strives to prove Trump’s racism here, but does not IMO, it reprints Ingraham’s substantially correct words

    https://www.mediaite.com/tv/laura-ingraham-trumps-tweets-were-unforced-error-but-not-racist/

  11. ahh where to begin……

    His remark was the most un-pc remark anyone can ever use. It’s been used against the Irish, Italians, Jews, Chinese, Mexicans and a dozen other ethnics, but it is very very rarely used against blacks… it was directed I believe primarily at Ilhan Omar and because she is an unassimilated foreign born nasty piece of work. And guess what you can say and think I’m wrong but his sentiment towards her is echoed by a great many people on the street.

    Trump is the anti-pc President, there are times when what he says is going to cross the line. I believe he did cross the line with that comment and I printed the comment and that he crossed the line when he said it. There are certain things that you may think, but you just never say….

    Now that being said are the people that support him going to all of a sudden not support him because he took that step over the line…. hell no.

    Because a) he’s right there are a lot of people on all sides Phantom included that look at this woman and despise her, and b) due to the fact that the PC culture has been unmerciful for two decades to see someone violate their “rules” in such a high profile manner has more people cheering for it than you think.

  12. mediate….. is a leftwing wackjob site……

  13. His remark was the most un-pc remark anyone can ever use

    It wasn’t ‘un PC’ it was blatant racism, referring to the women’s ethnic backgrounds. What gives Trump the right to tell these democratically elected American citizens to ‘go back to where they came from?’

    As for the ‘unPC’ comment:

    https://twitter.com/ImIncorrigible/status/1151078496669712384

  14. these were his words when he doubled down……

    “If you’re not happy here, you can leave. As far as I’m concerned if you hate our country, if you’re not happy in the U.S. & you’re complaining all the time you can leave. You can leave right now.“

    Do you know how often that sentiment is said about quite a few people… mostly about White Hollywood Elitist Scum who keep saying they’ll leave but never do!

  15. It is not racist

  16. I was amazed to see CNN from hour one referring to these as ” racist tweets ” – which is not what they are.

    Very similar words were said in recent past to Michael Moore, Rosie O’Donnell, Alec Baldwin.

  17. It wasn’t ‘un PC’ it was blatant racism, referring to the women’s ethnic backgrounds. What gives Trump the right to tell these democratically elected American citizens to ‘go back to where they came from?’

    Everything about this country gives him the RIGHT to say it…… there is nothing anyone can think that they can’t say.

    You may pay the price politically, but you can’t be imprisoned or fined for saying whatever the hell you want. That’s exactly what these 4 woman are doing…. what they can say what they want and because they’re woman of color no one is allowed to respond….. well bullshit!

  18. Congresswoman Mullah Omar clumsily minimized 9/11, and has made openly anti semitic statements.

    She should go back to her own country of Somalia, where such views are mainstream. They’re beyond the pale here.

  19. This is what he said,

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1150381394234941448

    ‘who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe’

    Incorrect, ignorant and racist muck.

  20. In the case of Omar, he is entirely correct, factually, and morally.

    We can all agree on that.

  21. Phantom, it’s unimportant what you, I, Pat or the petulant President think of Omar.

    She’s a democratically elected American citizen practising that freedom of speech that you love so much.

  22. Here are the original tweets, in order in context.

    So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly……

    ….and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how….

    ….it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements!

    and this is said verbally

    “If you’re not happy here, you can leave. As far as I’m concerned if you hate our country, if you’re not happy in the U.S. & you’re complaining all the time you can leave. You can leave right now.“

  23. Paul McMahon, on July 16th, 2019 at 1:48 PM Said: Edit Comment
    Phantom, it’s unimportant what you, I, Pat or the petulant President think of Omar.

    She’s a democratically elected American citizen practising that freedom of speech that you love so much.

    Paul….. have you read the post you’re commenting on…. Please do.

  24. Paul

    No need for mocking references to free speech, we know that you actually do support it, if only for people that you find acceptable.

    Trump, who I don’t respect, has every right to say these things, esp when directed to one who is no better than a 9/11 truther, and an anti semite to boot.

  25. Paul….. have you read the post you’re commenting on…. Please do.

    Yes, I’m relying to Phantom’s comment:

    She should go back to her own country of Somalia, where such views are mainstream. They’re beyond the pale here.

    Trumps comments clearly regerred to the wmomen’s ethnicity, which country can 3/4s of them go back to?

  26. Trump’s comment referred to highly negative personalities.

    And many Puerto Ricans will refer to the island as a country. So Trump wasn’t necessarily wrong in AOC’s case either. AOC can run for dog catcher of San Juan, and can clean up the corruption there. AOC sees nearly everything through an identity politics lens, she doesn’t like it when the tables are turned

    https://www.wibc.com/blogs/chicks-right/behold-bizarre-aoc-claims-growing-cauliflower-colonial-approach-vegetables

  27. No need for mocking references to free speech, we know that you actually do support it, if only for people that you find acceptable.

    Welcome on board then Phantom:

    She should go back to her own country of Somalia, where such views are mainstream. They’re beyond the pale here

    Here’s an analysis of her ‘anti Semetic’ remarks:

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/3/6/18251639/ilhan-omar-israel-anti-semitism-jews

    How is she ‘no better than a 9/11 truther?’

    Trump was clearly referring to the women’s ethnic background as three of them were born in the US.

  28. Trump wasn’t making any comments on ethnicity here.

  29. Trump’s comment referred to highly negative personalities.

    And many Puerto Ricans will refer to the island as a country. So Trump wasn’t necessarily wrong in AOC’s case either. AOC can run for dog catcher of San Juan, and can clean up the corruption there. AOC sees nearly everything through an identity politics lens, she doesn’t like it when the tables are turned

    If you don’t like what the democratically elected congresswoman has to say maybe you should take yourself back to Ireland?

  30. Trump wasn’t making any comments on ethnicity here.

    Oh don’t talk rubbish. Three of the four women were born in the US.

  31. You seem to be in love with Omar, flying off the handle in her defense.

    I’m Trump’s main critic here, and have been from Day One.

    And I call bullshit on the contrived overreaction to one of his 1000 lunatic tweets a day.

  32. You seem to be in love with Omar, flying off the handle in her defense.

    Not at all, I barely know who the woman is.

    I’m comparing your love of free speech with your comments that a democratically elected US politician should go back to where she came from because you don’t like what she says which Trump’s remarks referring to the ethnicty of four American politicians seems to have brought to the fore.

    What a diference thirty years makes. I disagreed with Regan on many, many, many things and even agree with some things he says here but the contrast of dignity and warmth with petulance and crudeness is stark

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QzUL-bFqXI

  33. he never referred to their ethnicity

  34. I believe that the four ladies in question self identify as American Pat.

    Which countries should they go back to?

  35. Paul

    You’re terribly confused.

    Free speech has nothing to do with this

    You are just throwing the kitchen sink and everything else into it, so as to make for a louder and not wiser argument.

  36. Mullah Omar can move back to Somalia.

    I’ll help her pack.

  37. NY, Minnesota, Michigan, and Massachusetts

  38. Disingenuous as ever.

    She should go back to her own country of Somalia, where such views are mainstream. They’re beyond the pale here

    Long live free speech!

  39. NY, Minnesota, Michigan, and Massachusetts

    So when Trump said these four American ladies could go back to their countries what was he referring to?

  40. Paul doesn’t have the slightest idea what free speech means

    His rapid response bejabberings will may actually make the contemptible Trump sympathetic

  41. Trump was rude…. but these 4 women have been very rude to everybody.

    Free Speech dictates they are free to say what they feel…. free speech also means that they can be responded to anyway someone wants.

    The left uses the shield of race, ethnicity, and gender as a shield to prevent people from responding to their nonsense. Well it didn’t work this time and the left are having a fit.

    If your going to fight from the gutter like these women are they have no right to be offended when they get hit back from the gutter….

  42. No I really do Phantom. It means that she can say what she thinks and you can say you think that she should go back to Somalia because you disagree with what she says.

    Maybe if you don’t like what she says you should go back to Ireland?

  43. Trump was rude….

    “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe […]
    Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came.

    So what was he referring to Pat. The states where they came from?

  44. you left a line out……

    Then come back and show us how it is done

    and that was directed at Ilhan Omar……

  45. Paul

    You make excuses for those who punch innocent people in the face. You’ve done it time and again.

    Those here who believe in free speech here have never done that.

    Please, stop.

  46. Congresswomen

    Countries

    Places

    Please note the difference between singular and plural nouns Pat. Now, when he was talking about the four of these self identifying American women going back to where they were from was he referring to the states where they came from?

    Those here who believe in free speech here have never done that.

    No, they should just

    Go back to her own country of Somalia, where such views are mainstream. They’re beyond the pale here

  47. Yes

    When we dislike someone’s words, we say words back

    We don’t punch them, kick them, send them to the hospital, or make excuses for those who do punch them, kick them, or send them to the hospital

  48. Maybe you should go back to Ireland then?

  49. Ultimately she’s as American as you and has an electoral mandate over saying what she thinks on some obscure blog.

    Maybe you should get in line with Trump to decide who’s God and can or can’t stay in their country?

  50. I can’t believe we’re still debating Trump’s burning cross of a tweet. It was wrong on so many levels. As Gerardo Rivera said, “I hope this doesn’t reflect what’s in his soul.”

  51. Charles

    If you want to know what’s in his soul, you may wish to recall that he was raised by a father who was arrested at a KKK rally.

    But this tweet was a swatting back of those who were badgering him. Nothing more.

    Some media were absolutely wrong to call what he said here racist.

  52. Paul I would disagree turnip has one big accompliment he has increased the deficit bigly all the way back to a trillion dollars and he doesn’t even have a recession to share the credit with

  53. He was referring to the countries / ethnicities where the four self identifying American ladies come from.

    He was very evidently referring to their racial backgrounds.

  54. Phantom you are being completely disingenuous of course it’s racist he is telling these women because they are brown they must come from failed countries

    Of course since 3/4 are Americans and 1 is Somali he is actually correct

  55. Somalia and Puerto Rico are failed countries.

    Even before the storm, very many Puerto Ricans were moving out to Florida and other places.

  56. And you know what? If he had the humility to come out and apologise for it saying it was clumsily worded and not his intention to portray his comment as racist that’s all it takes for it to go away.

    Imagine what the furore would be both here and wider if any of thse four women had said American Jews should go back to where they came from?

  57. No it would not go away.

    Trump/Trumpers never let anything slide, neither do highly politicized Dems.

  58. No it would not go away

    I disagree. If he apologised for to the four Congresswomen for what he said and said it was clumsily worded and not what he meant then every time it was brought up all he would have to say is it wasn’t what he meant and it was clumisly worded.

    Phantom, what do you think you nad other’s comments would be like here had these four American women said they think American Jews should go back to where they came from?

  59. Cortez is not Puerto Rican she was born in NY which makes her as American as a certain orange colored loon

  60. AOC has identified as political Puerto Rican, even to the extent of criticizing other latins who had the temerity of growing ” colonial ” vegetables such as cauliflower. Look it up.

    Like all true Dems, identity politics is her reason for living

  61. Trump didn’t say that all of any group should go anywhere.

    He trashed the Axis of Evil, and we should praise him for that, not criticize him, this one time.

  62. What of those who identify as Jews Phantom, do they also deal in identity politics? Irish Americans and others who hold dual nationality? What do they identify as?

    These four women are as American as you, Pat or the petulant President.

    What do you think you nad other’s comments would be like here had these four American women said they think American Jews should go back to where they came from?

    I’m still interested to know your answer.

    Trump didn’t say that all of any group should go anywhere.

    “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe […]
    Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came.

    Maybe if you0re into ‘alternative facts’ he didn’t.

  63. You sure ask a lot of what if questions

  64. Well okay. That’s what I thought.

  65. –What do you think you nad other’s comments would be like here had these four American women said they think American Jews should go back to where they came from?–

    Trump said nothing remotely like that about any group of people. It’s a fairly idiotic question. But I’ll bite.

    If anyone said that to the likes of Trump paymaster Sheldon Adelson, I’d be fine with it. He’s not interested in America except that it is in the service of another nation.

  66. What’s up. I’m the biggest Trump supporter here, but can see through Trump’s blatant racism. Others, not so much.

  67. Trump said nothing remotely like that about any group of people

    “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe […]
    Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came.

    Congresswomen is a selective group, (based on ethnicity/ race), and go back is a phrasal verb.

    Do I need to repeat the question again as the ‘answer’ you give bears no relation to the question I asked?

    If and when you answer it maybe you’ll have a go at those Americans with dual nationality and who they identify with too.

    BTW,

    AOC has identified as political Puerto Rican

    I can’t see anything that suggests that.

  68. Charles

    Are you reconsidering your support for Trump

    You have always had big differences with him on fundamental things. ( health care for all Americans being high on the list )

  69. Phantom, not at this time. Immigration is also high on my list, and Trump is the only candidate to work on the issue to my satisfaction.

    Biden did impress me today though. When asked about this Congressional squabble, he gave the correct answer, “Nancy will handle it.”

  70. I have a similar problem.

    There is no Democratic party alternative. They are the party of open borders and free stuff now, they don’t even try to hide it any more.

    Biden is the best of a bad lot. He is moderate by 2019 Dem standards, and acts dignified most of the time.

    That makes him a Lincoln or Churchill among these Liliputians.

  71. Well, I’m off to Denver. See y’aLL in a week!

  72. That sounds like a fun drive.

    And Colorado is great. You can stop in some of those new fun stores 🙂

    Drive safe.

  73. This is what our system is based on, the Freedom to speak your mind and your views on how you believe things should be done.

    When you’re a minority in your own land that freedom will be the first thing to go. Then you’ll be told that if you don’t like it you’d better leave.

  74. American Jews should go back to where they came from

    ‘American’ jews should emigrate to the country which they consider as their own:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9jX7a9DFJE

    Sheldon Adelson in Israel regrets having worn the Uniform of the United States. But Sheldon Adelson expects his son to be a great sniper in Israel’s army, where Sheldon wishes he had served.

  75. Immigration is also high on my list, and Trump is the only candidate to work on the issue to my satisfaction.

    OK – where’s the wall? Trump could have got the wall built but did not

  76. Nobody , not here on ATW anyway as far as I can make out is saying that Trump shouldn’t be permitted to say the things he has, just some truthful acknowledgement that the tweet was blatantly racist, from his supporters ( hat tip to Charles) would be welcome.

  77. Allan

    Didn’t you notice ? Trump did build the wall , it was completed fully Almost twelve months after he took office…… but then in the middle of New Years Eve night 2017 when all the gentiles were conveniently drunk, those pesky Jews tore it all down as part of their evil nefarious plans to destroy America 😱

    So Some bloke in Aberdeen told me…

  78. Charles in Texas, on July 16th, 2019 at 5:31 PM Said: Edit Comment
    Well, I’m off to Denver. See y’aLL in a week!

    Enjoy Charles and Mrs Charles.

  79. Colm –

    Even if Trump was being racist (he wasn’t), so what? The left wanted identity politics, so they can have identity politics.

  80. Trump needs funding from Congress in order to build the wall

    ( since his Mexico funding plan fell through )

  81. It can be taken from the military budget:

    https://i.ibb.co/Z2Mnx08/16-C32-D4-C-AD8-E-4361-AB22-97-FAA923-CDFE.jpg

  82. The intent of Trump’s statements is to stir up racism in his supporters. Trump is a racist but it is even worse to inflame racist reactions in others. Clearly his statements contain ‘dog whistles’ meant to engender hate. 187 House Republicans endorsed Trump’s racism this evening. That is a very sad commentary on the current state of the US. And, the world is watching.

  83. did you see the video of what Presslly said NYr….. obviously not if you can say that with a straight face….

    https://thehill.com/homenews/house/453007-pressley-democrats-need-any-more-black-voices-that-dont-want-to-be-a-black

  84. here play this division call….. the woman’s a real racist

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k6SSquUxpY

  85. The woman’s a real racist

    Did she tell them to go back where they came from Pat?

    Trump further polarises America:

    The US House of Representatives has voted to condemn President Donald Trump after a series of attacks aimed at four congresswomen

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49011843

    Others not being racist:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48993211

  86. Charles
    //I can’t believe we’re still debating Trump’s burning cross of a tweet. It was wrong on so many levels. As Gerardo Rivera said, “I hope this doesn’t reflect what’s in his soul.”//

    Well said Charles.

  87. Phantom,

    But this tweet was a swatting back of those who were badgering him. Nothing more.

    Some media were absolutely wrong to call what he said here racist.

    Whether trump himself is racist or not, what he said certainly looks like a racist comment. To claim it’s not is absurd.

  88. Puerto Rico a failed country? Last time I checked it was part of the United States. Its residents happen to be US Citizens.

  89. We know that

    But very many Puerto Rican’s will refer to it as a country

    It competes as a country separately from the US in international sports, competitions

    Economically It’s pretty much a failed state With huge debts and a weak economy, With huge outward, ( legal ) migration to the United States, esp Florida

  90. It sounds almost like a mirror reflection of the state of Northern Ireland.

  91. The US govt bears some of the blame But the majority of the islands problems are self-inflicted

    Huge corruption and mismanagement problems

  92. It’s déjà vu all over again. President Trump has given the hanging party a first-rate piece of rope to use against him.

    His tweet will not live in infamy, but his cringe-worthy “go back” language rhymes with many of his earlier self-inflicted mistakes. The pattern was established during the 2016 campaign and he has been faithful to it many times since taking office.

    It always seems to happen when things are going pretty well. So it was Sunday, with Democrats engulfed in a vicious civil war and Trump’s poll numbers rising against the 2020 candidates as the public begins to realize how far left they are going.

    Indeed, things were so relatively tranquil that the media’s perpetual outrage machine was out of grist. Then suddenly, Trump fired at his opponents and shot himself in the foot.

    https://nypost.com/2019/07/16/why-trump-must-acknowledge-that-he-went-too-far-this-time/

    From Trump supporter Michael Goodwin, columnist in the Trump supporting NY Post

  93. As the public begins to realize how far left they are going

    Could you Phantom, or any other United Stateser here, flesh that out to what it means for your normal Yank?

  94. You could start by the de facto support of leading Democrats for open borders, for free health care for illegals, for ” redistributing wealth” ( what do you think that means ) and for writing off college student loan debts

  95. I generally find that anyone who uses ‘de facto’ and ‘technically’ usually doesen’t have a specific argument. However, to go along with the generalisation of your comment, the ‘left’ in American politics seems to be centerist, possibly left leaning, in Europe.

    Tax funded health care and ‘free’ / low cost third level education wouldn’t be seen as ‘left’ here.

  96. You argue on everything, just for the sake of arguing.

    Dems have openly spoken of reducing or eliminating penalties for busting through the border.

    Illegals have no right in the world to be here in the first place.

    Giving them free health care is an income transfer from Americans to a large population of non Americans who have chosen to break the law.

    If that isn’t an insane policy, I don’t know what is.

    There is an intentional blurring of the line between citizens, legal residents and illegal aliens. Dems never even use the term illegal alien anymore.

    Some of us said this here 7-8 years ago or more.

  97. Dems have spoken of disbanding ICE

    Dem cities have a policy of non cooperation or worse with federal immigration agencies

    There is evidence everywhere of their support for open borders for anyone who is not intentionally blind.

  98. You argue on everything, just for the sake of arguing

    I asked you a legitimate question and you answered it with a snide, sarcastic coment.

    I haven’t said one word about the rest of your 2.20

    As I said, state funded healthcare and ‘free’ / low third level education would be seen as a centerist, possibly left leaning, position in Europe.

  99. State funded healthcare for illegals is a huge reward for illegal activity

    And it goes against what Obama had proposed in say 2009-2010

    It is a huge moving of the goalposts

  100. I don’t think that state funded healthcare would be a ‘leftist’ position to illegal immigrants to Europe either.

    However, I wanted to speak about the differences in ‘leftist’ perception in the US and Europe. From what you’ve written above it seems to be based largely on illegal immigration.

  101. See ” redistribution of income ”

    “Ninety-nine percent of all new income generated today goes to the top 1 percent. Top one-tenth of 1 percent owns as much as wealth as the bottom 90 percent. Does anybody think that that is the kind of economy this country should have? Do we think it’s moral? So to my mind, if you have seen a massive transfer of wealth from the middle class to the top one-tenth of 1 percent, you know what, we’ve got to transfer that back if we’re going to have a vibrant middle class. And you do that in a lot of ways. Certainly one way is tax policy.”

    Bernie Sanders ( inclusive of the logical errors therein. )

  102. A progressive taxation band? Most (all?) European countries have it.

  103. //Ninety-nine percent of all new income generated today goes to the top 1 percent. Top one-tenth of 1 percent owns as much as wealth as the bottom 90 percent.//

    It would be interesting to see how that changed from a time just before the 2008 crash to a time shortly afterwards.

  104. We have a progressive tax code now in the US

    Its not as progressive as Europe is but it does have higher tax brackets for high earners

    And it has loads of dirty loopholes for hedge fund guys, real estate ( hi Donald ) , energy industry etc .

  105. https://www.bankrate.com/finance/taxes/tax-brackets.aspx

    Most people pay state income tax as well as federal, so you don’t only look at the federal tax.

    But state tax would be progressive also

    Some states, Texas and Florida among them, do not have a state income tax at all

  106. The point I’m making is that a progressive tax code wouldn’t be seen as a ‘left’ idea in Europe.

    And it has loads of dirty loopholes for hedge fund guys, real estate ( hi Donald ) , energy industry etc

    That may be what Bernie’s alluding to above?

    Would the points you’re posting above be Dem policy / widely accepted in the Dems or are they the opinions of a handful of Dem reps?

  107. Bernie and the likes of de Blasio and AOC are seeking far more than a closing of a few loopholes.

    Trust me on this.

  108. how many of you on that side of the Pond are aware of the Terror attack in Tacoma?

    Jul 14, 2019 · “The man killed in Saturday’s terror attack on an ICE contract detention facility in Tacoma, Washington has been identified as Willem Van Spronsen, a man with a record of attacking police during a protest at the facility a year ago,” according to Gateway Pundit. “Antifa activists are claiming the attacker as one of their own.”

  109. I’d read about it online. I wouldn’t consider as the burning of a bus as a ‘terror attack’

    Bernie and the likes of de Blasio and AOC are seeking far more than a closing of a few loopholes.

    Spell it out for me Phantom, how far? methods of implementation? (genuine questions)

    Would what you state above be Dem policy / widely accepted in the Dems or are they the opinions of a handful of Dem reps?

  110. Paul the guy attacked a federal facility threw Bombs and had to be killed to stop him…. all motivated by politics….

    That kinda is the definition of a Terror Attack.

  111. These views are widespread in Democratic Party circles.

    De Blasio is the mayor of America’s biggest city.

    AOC is an insurgent with millions of followers.

    Bernie Sanders is a major contender who won a number of primary elections the last time.

  112. I just put a segment of Tucker up that goes into the terror attack by antifa. It’s worth the 3 minutes.

  113. Pat, what I read was that he set fire to an ICE bus at a migrant camp, was chased, fired upon, returned fire and was shot dead.

    I’d call it at best aggravated vandalism. It’s certainly not what I would define as a ‘terror attack’ and I think coming where I’m from I have a bit more experience with such things thaN you.

    And BTW, less anyone should want to twist it think otherwise, stating the facts as I read them isn’t any kind of condoning the vandalism to ICE property.

    Phantom. I really don’t know but from the examples you’ve given it seems to be a miniscule strain within the wider Dem Party, (unfortunately IMO).

  114. watch the vid you’ll get a lot more info

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    This guy tried to blow up a propane tank ( which could have killed a number of persons ) and he shot at police officers with a rifle

    And this is ” at best aggravated vandalism ” ???

  116. Trump’s remarks have effect throughout the darkening white world. The obvious debate arising from someone saying “these people should leave our country” would be a debate about whether or not these people should leave our countries – which is clearly a fair question. The issue of multiculturalism is far from settled. But judeo-leftists declared it settled, and so they’ve moved on to a debate about whether or not you can disagree about it being settled.

    It’s not settled: send them home.

    Home – land of ethnic origin populated by people of that ethnicity. E.g – sending pakis home means sending pakis back to Pakistan, the land which is populated by Pakistanis and to which they would be considered as indigenous. By contrast, white Australians cannot be sent home because Australia was built by them and is thus their home. No whites = no Australia because the abos cannot maintain the civilisation of Australia.