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Vance Alley

By Phantom On July 19th, 2019

This past weekend, I drove down to Wilmington, NC for a surprise party.

The guest of honor was a young marine who had recently returned from a tour in Afghanistan. He’d been stationed in Camp Leatherneck, in Helmand province. People drove down from New York, Pennsylvania, Chicago. I think that he was partially surprised. When you do a big surprise party, it’s hard for all not to drop any hints.

The way home involved a 90 minute stop at Shannon. Their commanding officer took them over to the bar, and bought each man a pint of Guinness and a shot.

Of course, some of his young marine buddies were there, from Camp Lejeune. They’re good kids, quiet, respectful. Clean cut, of course, lots of ” yes m’am ” or ” yes sir ” when you speak to them.

Wilmington is by the water. There are beaches. The town is very dog friendly, water bowls in front of many businesses.

In the historic old town, there are markers for various old places. One is for Vance Alley, named after Samuel Vance, a merchant there in the late 1700s.

20 Responses to “Vance Alley”

  1. cool…..

  2. how was the drive back….. did you get caught in any of the thunderstorms?

  3. We drove down on Saturday, traffic sluggish in multiple places, even in NC. Very intense rain and thunder in the 15 miles approaching Wilmington. A drive slow with your blinkers on situation.

    Drove back on Monday. Expected traffic to be worse, but instead it was no problem at all, even in DC. Good weather and no delay all the way up.

  4. cool, yeah the timing of when the traffic is insane is quirky. There is just so much volume especially on the weekends.

    Everyone is either coming from or heading to a beach.

  5. Many northerners vacation in NC, or retire there. It’s a surprisingly big state, going east to west.

    Nice lifestyle and the cost of a house is much less.

    I saw PA NJ and NY plates everywhere.

  6. yeah there is a whole branch of my fathers side of the family that moved there from the bronx. It’s funny the NY/Philly crowd seem to either settle in NC or Florida.

  7. The way home involved a 90 minute stop at Shannon

    Military aircraft? Surely a breach of Irish neutrality?

  8. I suspect that the elected government is aware that US military planes land at Shannon.

  9. I suspect that the elected government is aware that US military planes land at Shannon.

    There really is no need to be so sarcastic at a civil comment.

    I also suspect the elected gov is also aware. I also suspect it doesn’t make it any less a breach of Irish neutrality.

  10. Nah.

    It’s cool.

  11. Up until 2008 or so, the Irish had the most insane rule that dictated that flights to/from N America were required to stop at Shannon on the way to/from Dublin.

    I made that stop a few times.

    I didn’t mind it much, but I imagine that time pressed business travelers hated to spend an extra couple of hours traveling for no good reason at all.

  12. It seems that Irish neutrality isn’t all that neutral after all:

    The maintenance of peace and security as enshrined in the UN Charter is a goal of Ireland’s foreign policy. Despite this, Shannon Airport has been used in the invasions and occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan, and in the illegal rendition circuits operated by the CIA. A 2016 RedC poll indicated that 55 percent of Irish adults believe the US military should not be allowed to use Shannon Airport. Yet 16 years after it became a vital cog in the never ending “war on terror’”, it is a de facto US military base in a country whose leaders cling to an increasingly untenable claim of neutrality.

    https://www.rte.ie/brainstorm/2019/0115/1023314-a-question-of-neutrality-and-shannon-airport/

  13. The Irish aren’t Neutral…. they claim to be but they always seem to show up on the wrong side…. 😉

  14. But they always seem to show up on the wrong side….

    ?

  15. I refuse to elaborate on the grounds that I just don’t feel like it…… 😉

  16. I refuse to elaborate on the grounds that I just don’t feel like it…… 😉

    Can we expect a long vacation from the verbal diarrhoea?

  17. I’m cool with that. Neutrality is an outdated relic of the post-colonial era (although it was perfectly understandable then). The US is an ally.

  18. Nice timber and brickwork in Vance Alley. Very West Side Story.

  19. Can we expect a long vacation from the verbal diarrhoea?

    Nah we won’t block you here smcgiff

  20. I once had my posts altered to reflect the username Tariq O’Shah on another website .
    They thought I was an IRAnian sympathiser with links to Ireland . Bizarro