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REMAINERS ARE THE FORCES OF ANTI-DEMOCRACY

By Pete Moore On July 24th, 2019

Jo Swinson, the new leader of something called the LibDems, yesterday said that she would not accept the outcome of a second referendum if the result was again to leave the EU.

Caroline Lucas, leader of the Eco-commie party, today said that she would not accept the result of a second referendum if the result was again to leave the EU –

I’ve told you: these people are not democrats. Both are significant campaigners for another referendum, yet neither will accept the outcome if it goes against their wishes.

They are not democrats. They are anti-democrats, theyare loyal to foreign powers, and they are working hard to to kill democracy. Never, ever, think of them as decent or principled. They are bad people.

22 Responses to “REMAINERS ARE THE FORCES OF ANTI-DEMOCRACY”

  1. The parties that these people lead will never see power. Their only hope is through supranational organisations such as the EU or the UN. Only there can they punch above their weight.

  2. So if the referendum had voted in favour of remaining then Nigel Farage would have earnestly supported the European Union?

  3. Jo Swinson, the new leader of something called the LibDems, yesterday said that she would not accept the outcome of a second referendum if the result was again to leave the EU.

    I don’t think she says that at all. She says were it the same second time around she would oppose the result, which she is perfectly entitled to do.

    She could perfectly accept the result while opposing it. She doesn’t have to like or agree with it.

  4. She is just like you then Pete. You never accepted the result of the 1975 referendum. You always considered our membership of the EU to be illegitimate.

  5. I’ve told you: these people are not democrats. Both are significant campaigners for another referendum, yet neither will accept the outcome if it goes against their wishes.

    No Pete, that’s a bare-faced misinterpretation of the truth, because neither Jo Swinson nor Caroline Lucas said they would reject the result of a second referendum if it was in favour of Leave. What they did say is that they would continue to campaign for the UK to be in the EU, which they are totally entitled to do.

    As Seamus points out at 7.16 pm, your hero Farage made clear that if the 2016 referendum had been a win for Remain he would have continued to campaign for Leave. I can’t remember you calling him an anti-democrat for that, but I’m sure you will correct me if I’m wrong.

    You would be on stronger ground opposing a second referendum before the first one has been implemented. I still support Brexit and am opposed to a second referendum. We need to leave the EU and let the Lib Dems and Greens (and Labour?) campaign to rejoin it in a future general election. That will be a second referendum.

  6. What they did say is that they would continue to campaign for the UK to be in the EU, which they are totally entitled to do.

    No – they are not entitled to thwart the implementation of the outcome, which is LEAVE. As you wrote, they have every right to campaign to rejoin after a decent period, I’d say 10 years.

    Farage’s position on continuing to oppose the UK being in the EU is far less dishonest because there would have been no change in the UK’s status as member of the EU had the UK voted Remain.

  7. You never accepted the result of the 1975 referendum.

    That’s because Heath lied about the purpose of the EEC

  8. No – they are not entitled to thwart the implementation of the outcome

    Of course they are. They are absolutely entitled to use every Parliamentary Democracy and legal challenge at their disposal.

    Farage’s position on continuing to oppose the UK being in the EU is far less dishonest because there would have been no change in the UK’s status as member of the EU had the UK voted Remain.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36306681

    Suck it up. Sauce for the goose etc.

  9. The comments on here always remind me of playground bickering.

  10. Allan

    That’s a Feeble and pointless excuse. Anyway The referendum was called by Labour not Ted Heath so your point about Heath is irrelevant, and debatable anyway.

    I could say Brexiteers lied about Brussells control and the benefits of leaving. So does that mean the result of the 2016 vote is equally illegitimate ?

  11. Djaym

    As oppose to your intellectually towering contributions ?

  12. Paul – the UK voted Leave, with a turnout exceeding those of recent general elections. Three years later, the UK is still in the EU so the result is being snuffed out by the Establishment, which you support.

  13. Allan

    That record turnout voted 52 : 48 in favour of Leave. Fair enough and I support Leave.

    But last week Pete Moore’s hero Farage sneered at the new Chairman of the EU Commission who had been elected by exactly the same margin in the EU Parliament. He said she had no mandate. What a shameless (Trump arselicking) jerk that man is.

  14. Peter – there is a world of difference between a plebiscite and an apparatchiks’ vote. The EU is and shall remain beyond reform, and the UK voted to Leave. Once the UK is out, then UK politicos may campaign for their ‘right’ to be owned by Soros in the EU

    https://legacy.gscdn.nl/archives/images/soroskooptbrussel.pdf

    This mapping provides the Open Society European Policy Institute
    and the Open Society network intelligence on Members of the 8th European Parliament likely to support Open Society values during the 2014–2019 legislature.

    Section C. Members lists 226 Members’ individual profiles.

    Total corruption – and that’s just the MEPs. The Institution has failed finacial audits which would have me jailed for embezzlement

  15. So the result is being snuffed out by the Establishment, which you support

    You can’t get much more ‘establishment’ than the new cosmopolitan elite PM and the City banker turned professional politico the Nige Allan. The UK is still in the EU because Brexit has polarised a society and a Parliamentary Democracy.

  16. Caroline Lucas – there’s something awry with her, just as there is with that entire alliance of cultural Marxists as individuals. Here they are in their glory……….

    https://twitter.com/andrewkirell/status/1014319060874559488

    and yes, they really do look like that:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3b5d1c93dce7eca06ac376dcee474b8ffb1152ace430fac10b328df41a7a773e.jpg

  17. Paul – the UK is still in the EU because those who are really in charge, whom you support, do not want the UK to Leave. I noticed that, on another thread, Noel postulated that PM Johnson would be prepared to renege in a sophisticated, cosmopolitan manner – and Johnson is at least as big a liar as his hero Churchill. The fix is in.

  18. why was this in the bin?

    Colm
    Oh yes she did Pete. She said the possibility of “no deal” food shortages in Ireland should be used as leverage by the U.K. to press Ireland to get the EU to drop the backstop. We can argue about the exact words but her implications were obvious. You can use whatever literal sophistry you wish to claim she didn’t but it was a crass opportunistic remark by her but she’s a Hardline Brexiteers so can do no wrong in your eyes.

    just checking if intentional or a glitch?

  19. Who are the shadowy ‘people in charge’ then?

    Not ‘the establishement’ Old Etonions and bankers like the Nige, Boris, Rees Mogg, Liam Fox, Jeremy Hunt etc?

    Go on, name names.

    PM Johnson would be prepared to renege in a sophisticated, cosmopolitan manner – and Johnson is at least as big a liar as his hero Churchill. The fix is in.

    There, that didn’t take long did it?

  20. Patrick

    There was a problem posting comments earlier. Must be the Jew controlled heatwave 😉

  21. lol…..

  22. bamn commies