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An Opportunity

By Patrick Van Roy On July 31st, 2019

Hong Kong …… ah the opportunity that has arrison for western intelligence is perfect. Right now the Chicoms have troops outside it’s border and are debating a military crackdown…

Beijing can’t handle the western capital of the East, Hong Kong. It’s taken some time for the people to reach their limit of tolerating an ever increasing grip from Beijing 22yrs, but it might have finally happened. Hong Kong is the Orient but it is imbued with a definite underlying British structure. Hong Kong is a Western city and the people of this region are the perfect blend of East and West mental philosophies.

Hong Kong in the long run may be the British Empires greatest success. It already has been a success, but here is the opportunity. It has always been feared that China would crush Hong Kong. Not with troops, but with control, and they have been doing that more and more. However with what we are witnessing now with it finally coming to a head it is the chance to infect mainland China with Hong Kong.

The Chinese can’t pacify Hong Kong with Troops. A city that size can be destroyed, but not pacified. The Chicoms may use those troops to quell the riots and that is what we want them to do. It will backfire. The people rioting are the middle class, not the severe poor and there are some severe poor in Hong Kong.  However, Hong Kong hosts the largest concentration of ultra high-net-worth individuals of any city in the world. This is all wealth built by trade with the west.

This is the time to recruit human assets from every level of Hong Kong’s society. From the street agitator to the captain’s of industry, and use these people to spread unrest on the mainland. The time is perfect to plant seeds of Liberty.

 

34 Responses to “An Opportunity”

  1. Hong Kong is very useful to the Chinese as a source of western finance. As long as that remains the case there will be no Tianamen-style massacre of protesters because of the collateral damage to the Chinese economy.

    The separate system in the 1997 treaty is guaranteed until 2047. Until then, the Chinese are required to respect HK’s freedoms (LOL).

  2. I’ve had the good fortune of visiting Hong Kong.

    What a great place. Rich, too.

    The Chicoms would love to kill every one of those protesters, but they can’t. Hong Kong is very visible. It’s not Xinjiang or Tibet.

    Good luck to those brave Chinese people.

  3. The time is perfect to plant seeds of Liberty.

    We’ve seen the ‘seeds of liberty’ planted in Afghanistan, Iraq & Libya. What do you do when the HK Chinese start rioting against that?

  4. This is a Hong Kong Chinese movement, not in need of American or other direction on anything.

    And if the seeds of liberty mean a gun infested society and no more universal health care, there won’t be one Hong Konger who votes for that.

  5. Perfectly said Phantom.

  6. //I’ve had the good fortune of visiting Hong Kong.//

    Me too. Much more Chinese than I thought it would be (though there are quite a few Irish references to be found there, as well as the 100s of British).

    The people are the most industrious Ive ever seen. They literally roll out long tables out of endless small workshops to do metal work on the footpaths and streets (in Kowloon) in front of public gaze. But the HG people are so cool that nobody gazes.
    Also remarkably easy to hop across the border into China, no waits, no hassle. Great stuff.

  7. I visited Hong Kong in August 2003. I know that was the time, because there was a major blackout home in the Northeast, And I was afraid that it was another terrorist incident

    I also thought that it was much more Chinese than expected. It Was almost as if the British had never been there.

    They are indeed great workers, great traders. Only a crazy system like Maoist communism could keep those great people down.

    In the years leading Up to Hong Kong’s return to China, A large number of Hong Kong Chinese emigrated to my part of Brooklyn. They’ve done well in Brooklyn, as Chinese people tend to do well everywhere they go, When they are allowed to do well

  8. not direction this is the time to make connections fill a need someone might have be a helping hand.

    Mainland China is due a populist revolt sometime in the next 50 years it’s inevitable. It’s becoming industrialized more and more… exposing more and more of it’s people to the comforts of the modern world. It’s a tide that is coming that no one can stop.

    The larger the failure that Hong Kong is to control the quicker that wave will hit the main land. The Brits already have almost 200 years of connections firmly in place. I can guarantee that they have been long exploited.

    As I said Hong Kong is a mixture of both east and west and it’s face may be oriental it’s mind is western and capitalistic.

    It’s their fight our job is to just provide aid.

    Oh and you can’t compare Hong Kong with the middle east Paul. One is 15th century thinking the other 21st century.

  9. A lot of people, myself included, Predicted a freedom revolution in China at the time of the peaceful uprising in 1989
    We’re still waiting

    One big difference between the territory of Hong Kong and the vast universe of mainland China

    In Hong Kong, there is a free press and free Internet.

    In mainland China, there is neither. The internet is a tool of police surveillance there, and Outside websites are often blocked. A lot of average Chinese people don’t know what’s going on.

  10. The more industry the more opportunity for technology to spread. We used to broadcast radio free europe we need internet free china.

  11. If China wants to kill the Peking Duck that lays the Golden Eggs it’s welcome to.

  12. Not direction this is the time to make connections fill a need someone might have be a helping hand.

    This is the time to recruit human assets from every level of Hong Kong’s society. From the street agitator to the captain’s of industry, and use these people to spread unrest on the mainland.

    I think those two sentences have a massively different tone. China won’t take kindly to foreign interferance distablising its society.

    Oh and you can’t compare Hong Kong with the middle east Paul. One is 15th century thinking the other 21st century.

    Planting ‘the seeds of liberty’ in Afghanistan and Iraq was very much 21st C thinking Pat but you’re right to an extent, 15th C countries don’t have WMD.

  13. For decades, the BBC short wave radio broadcasts have been a good source of information for people throughout the world. I imagine that a large number of Chinese and other people still listen to these broadcasts.

    The Chinese have jammed these broadcasts in the past, not sure about now.

    As they’ve blocked BBC websites.

    I used to listen to the BBC World radio news when at sea, when there was little other source of news. They were of a very high standard.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/2x9tqt6mc05vB2S37j8MWMJ/global-short-wave-frequencies

  14. Not direction this is the time to make connections fill a need someone might have be a helping hand.

    This is the time to recruit human assets from every level of Hong Kong’s society. From the street agitator to the captain’s of industry, and use these people to spread unrest on the mainland.

    I think those two sentences have a massively different tone. China won’t take kindly to foreign interferance distablising its society.

    No both my sentences say exactly the same thing…now is the time for interference and destabilizing its society. We are in competition with these people this is an opportunity.

    There is a very true saying……

    “There is PROFIT in Chaos….”

    Profit isn’t always measured in cash.

  15. 15th C countries don’t have WMD

    Tell that to Pakistan

  16. Phantom do you have a shortwave at your house now? If not get one there is still a whole nother world. CCrane Co is a great source for an all around radio am,fm,sw,sb they make the best affordable good quality multi band radios.

    I have always wanted to get my Ham License. Still something on the list yet to be checked off.

  17. The worst fear of many Chinese is instability.

    When China was unstable, it was weak, and it was brutalized without mercy by Japan and by Europeans.

    If the US talked like that, it would be playing right into the hands of the communist rulers of China.

  18. I have an old shortwave that does not work.

    You can listen to shortwave on computer stream, I have not looked into that though

  19. You don’t think the west should be helping the people of china to gain their freedom ?

  20. I don’t know that we can help them.

    I think that the likes of Soros didn’t do Russians etc any favors when he sought to interfere in Russia. It backfired and made it easy for Putin to paint liberals as foreigners.

    I think that we should encourage moves to democracy and freedom in China but that we shouldn’t be playing an active role in making that happen.

  21. here ya go Phantom…. this company is one of the best in business, great electronic odd ball practical stuff, fantastic customer service.

    https://www.ccrane.com/

  22. Merci

    Believe it or not, I have an emergency windup AM/FM radio with light that needs no batteries

    I have never needed it, but I lent it to a friend who lost power for weeks after his house in Brooklyn was flooded by Sandy in 2012.

  23. Tell that to Pakistan

    ……and Iraq, (not so 15C after all then?).

    You don’t think the west should be helping the people of China to gain their freedom ?

    You think that the US should attempt to destabilise Chinese society under the guise of ‘helping the people of China to gain their freedom’ in order to cynically forward its own interests?

    My, you’re a bigger interventionist than the beast. Why not send an invasion force…..?

    Oh, and pls check your mail Pat.

  24. A destabilized China could be a worse problem than what we have now.

  25. I think that the likes of Soros didn’t do Russians etc any favors when he sought to interfere in Russia. It backfired and made it easy for Putin to paint liberals as foreigners.

    I think that we should encourage moves to democracy and freedom in China but that we shouldn’t be playing an active role in making that happen.

    Spot on, Phantom (on both points).

    Look at eastern Europe – of course there was strong encouragement from western leaders (particularly JPII) but they freed themselves. China is a bit different given how nationalistic it is and how any HK moves to reassert its freedom could be turned into propaganda of “an attack on China” (which makes foreign intervention even more dangerous).

  26. China is the long war gentleman…..

  27. Paul send the pic as an attachment, thanks

  28. China wants to -fully- absorb Hong Kong and it wants to force Taiwan into a unity that Taiwanese don’t want.

    But Hong Kongers and Taiwanese are sophisticated well educated, well informed, rich, democracy minded people.

    To Chicoms – be careful what you wish for.

  29. Done Pat, cheers.

  30. But Hong Kongers and Taiwanese are sophisticated well educated, well informed, rich, democracy minded people.

    To Chicoms – be careful what you wish for.

    That’s where the opportunity comes from…. they are westerners.

  31. China wants to -fully- absorb Hong Kong and it wants to force Taiwan into a unity that Taiwanese don’t want.

    Fully agree however we can all agree that this is an internal Chinese matter?

    To Chicoms – be careful what you wish for.

    Also agree.

    I think that the likes of Soros didn’t do Russians etc any favors when he sought to interfere in Russia. It backfired and made it easy for Putin to paint liberals as foreigners.

    I think that’s a fair comment. Soros shouldn’t have tried to promote western openess and freedoms in Russia. I can understand where his intentions were coming from in the wake of his successes in post Communist central / eastern Europe but you’re correct, it gave mad Vlad a penalty kick.

  32. post is up Paul

  33. Cheers P.

  34. Even if you don’t see Taiwan as an internal Chinese matter…China is too vast, too far away.

    We can and should check their imperial reach- China was an imperial power when the Europeans were swinging from the trees, and they wish to be one again–in formal and informal alliance with Japan and Vietnam, etc.but we can’t control the universe that is China.