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JEFFREY EPSTEIN “COMMITS SUICIDE”

By Pete Moore On August 10th, 2019

How convenient. Quite a few rich and powerful types might benefit from Jeffrey Epstein adding himself to the Clinton Body Count.

96 Responses to “JEFFREY EPSTEIN “COMMITS SUICIDE””

  1. Just posted this in a comment….

  2. Yeah, ‘Clinton body count’:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUDr_c2PalI

  3. Or maybe he couldn’t deal with a long time in jail where he would be a marked man

    Yes let the 8TW Alex Jones club run wild with conspiracy talk

    Hillary killed him!

  4. As I said on the other thread the twenty year old film of Epstein at Mar Lago means nothing… OJs been there to so did Trump help chop off his wifes head?

    Trump has no connection as much as you’d like to fantasize that he does…. feel free to keep living in delusion.

  5. And as I said on theother thread Pat,

    Pat, that video showed that they were at the very least known to each other and were on friendly terms.

    Deny reality in front of your very eyes all you wish.

  6. He was on suicide watch which means you have a guard watching you 24/7…. what did he go for a cup of coffee?

  7. Trump flew on Epstein’s private jet To Epstein’s sex slave island

    They were great Nyc / Palm Beach buddies for years until they had a business dispute

    Trump spoke with admiration about how Epstein liked them young

    I think that Trump should go to the funeral Along with Bill Clinton in a show of bipartisan molester support

  8. That film shows a man welcoming someone to his club and took place years before Trump threw him out and barred him from the club the film is 17yrs old….. as I said enjoy your fantasy

  9. no he flew once on his plane and it was a hop from Miami to NY….. stop lying Phantom.

  10. You can never admit that your buddy, that man you worship like a god, Was a close personal friend of Jeffrey Epstein for years

  11. You can hate Trump all you want, but the fact that you can’t be honest says it all

  12. You can hate Trump all you want, but the fact that you can’t be honest says it all

  13. Sorry libs, that boat was sunk this week.

    The US Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit has ordered the partial release of what is expected to be approximately 2,000 pages of documents related to convicted pedophile sex offender Jeffrey Epstein […]

    Following a 2011 article by journalist Sharon Churcher claiming that Donald Trump was a “good friend of Jeffrey’s,” Guiffre was asked to clarify Churcher’s possible misquote that “Donald Trump was also a good friend of Jeffrey’s,” and that Trump “Didn’t partake in any” of — “any sex with any of us but he flirted with me.”

    “It’s true that he didn’t partake in any sex with us, and but it’s not true that he flirted with me. Donald Trump never flirted with me,” said Guiffre.

    Bill Clinton, on the other hand, he was well in there. A regular on Epstein’s Lolita Express. Come on, you just know that Clinton wouldn’t miss out on that.

  14. Wait, don’t tell me, there is some sort of conspiracy involved…

  15. That film shows a man welcoming someone to his club

    I know it does, I said they were at least known to each other and were on friendly terms. The video also comments on Trump ‘pointing out (to Epstien) women dancing in front of them’

    With what we know now of Trump ‘moving hard’ on his married television co-host, his ‘pussygrabbing’ and Stormy Daniels etc it would’ve been interesting to be a fly on the wall at any subsequent conversations they had, I’m sure.

  16. Wow, that’s news.

    Sounds like a badly managed jail.

    //Sorry libs, that boat was sunk this week.//

    So what? Clinton (x 2) is history; Trump is unfortunately still with us.

  17. They weren’t on friendly terms that film is from 2yrs before Trump barred him, but enjoy your delusion.

  18. // the film is 17yrs old//

    Probably older than some of the girls they shared.

  19. lol

  20. They weren’t on friendly terms that film is from 2yrs before Trump barred him

    He wasn’t a predatory sex abuser before Trump had a business disagreement with him which resulted in their friendship souring?

  21. Trump (in Paul’s video) at least seems to be relaxed and having fun on the dance floor; Epstein by comparision looks sexually tense and uptight – a thoroughly disgusting piece of work.

  22. Donald Trump and Bill Clinton are similar in their personalities and in their ethics

    Jeffrey Epstein would basically be an even worse version of those two

    All three would be sexual predators, All three thought that the rules that apply to normal people simply did not apply to them

    The Democrat base knew exactly what Clinton was, the Trumper base all knows what Trump is, But as all Dems looked the other way with Bill for years, Just as the fake conservatives who support trump all look the other way for him now

  23. Donald Trump and Bill Clinton are similar in their personalities and in their ethics

    Phantom continues being patient zero for TDS….

  24. Epstein a known pedophile commits suicide under a 24/7 suicide watch the day after they release 2000 pages of testimony from one of the underage hookers naming names..

    and what is the thread about….. two people suffering from TDS trying to tie Trump to Epstein… sad boys sad

  25. //All three would be sexual predators,//

    But there’s a world of difference between Trump/Clinton on the one hand and the likes of Epstein on the other. Some see sex as a bit of fun, but not the most important thing in their lives. From what we know about Epstein, and from his appearance here, he’s a predator of a different category altogether – someone driven by compulsion and perverted obsession.

    But true what you say about their support base. I don’t suppose this will damage Trump in any way with the Christian Evangelical electorate.

    BTW – Does anyone know how well known JFK’s sexual antics were at the time?

  26. Direct quote from the petulant one:

    Much of Epstein’s “social life” involved very young women. “I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years,” Trump said at the time. “Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”

    https://www.vox.com/2018/12/3/18116351/jeffrey-epstein-indictment-arrested-trump-clinton-acosta

    Deflect, divert and deny Pat.

  27. Noel

    JFK’s antics were not known to the general public at the time. Many were shocked when those reports came out

    Many in the press would’ve known about it then but they didn’t report about such things in that era

  28. BTW – Does anyone know how well known JFK’s sexual antics were at the time?

    The press knew and covered it up

  29. BTW – Does anyone know how well known JFK’s sexual antics were at the time?

    The press knew and covered it up

  30. I’m just asking a simple question

    Should Trump and Bill Clinton attend the funeral? Perhaps Some members of the royal family could attend as well?

    It might help with our national healing

  31. how about you Phantom….. are you going to attend ?

  32. There are connections of your company with Epstein….. when did you meet him and with all your flight travel and seeing he did business with your company how many times did you fly on his plane ?

  33. There are connections of your company with Epstein….. when did you meet him and with all your flight travel and seeing he did business with your company how many times did you fly on his plane ?

  34. It’s not that they covered it up- they didn’t cover it up

    Is that they didn’t report it – not the same thing

    Lots of famous athletes, actors and rich people did the exact same thing that JFK did.

    But this was an era when That type of detail about peoples private lives was just not talked about in the press

    It was sometimes hinted about though

  35. https://www.dailywire.com/news/5556/7-things-you-need-know-about-trump-and-sex-slave-amanda-prestigiacomo

  36. //Should Trump and Bill Clinton attend the funeral? Perhaps Some members of the royal family could attend as well?

    It might help with our national healing//

    LOL!! Maybe these capers were part of the “incredible” UK – US post-Brexit trade the President was talking about.

    I wonder if there’s now suicide watch at the Royal Lodge?

  37. you didn’t answer my question Phantom…..

  38. Noel

    Please take a look at that last thing I linked to, It was written more than three years ago

    Trump used every possible defamatory argument Against the Clintons when running for president, But he never really mentioned the Epstein angle

    And the reason for that was that Trump himself was in Epstein’s social Circle himself for years

    Trump, And his flunkies never want to talk about this

  39. So Phantom when did you meet Epstein and has anyone from your company flown on his planes ?

    I can show a major connection between your companies executives and Epstein….. you’re a major executive, can you prove you never socialized with Epstein ?

  40. Please take a look at that last thing I linked to, It was written more than three years ago

    That’s pretty damning stuff there Phantom, particularly Epstien pleading the fifth when asked if he had ever socialised with Trump in the presence of under age females.

  41. Can you prove you never socialized with Epstein ?

    Unless you can provide evidence that he has Pat then Hitchen’s Razor that that which is presented without evidence can be dismissed without evidence comes into play:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitchens%27s_razor

  42. Some of the dregs here Are only interested in Epstein as a clumsy tool to bash Democrats

    But Epstein had many pals in NYC and Florida and beyond circles

    Two presidents Of the United States, The Democrat and the Republican,A large number of rich men , Members of the royal family

    This story is not over

  43. I know very little about Epstein and his political chums but reading this thread what sticks out so clearly is the desperate attempts by Patrick to whitewash and deflect Trump’s links with him. Patrick will deny it but more and more each day he really is becoming Trumps spin slave here on ATW.

  44. I can produce evidence that Epstein was a close friend to one of the Primary people at the company Phantom works. Someone who introduced Epstein to a lot of people.

    There is public evidence of this. I will not post it because it reveals where Phantom works and despite our differences and my needling I respect his anonymity.

    The question still stands though I can place Epstein with people from Phantoms company at a level of his company that he exists in. Company’s of the size that he works for and the business he’s in has social events with rich clients and potential clients all of the time. It is not a stretch that both Phantom and Epstein could have crossed paths.

    If he can use tenuous connections to connect Trump to Epstein tenuous connections can be used to tie Phantom to him.

    Did you know that his companies has ties to Epstein ? With as much as Phantom flies do you know if he ever flew on Epstein’s plane, or if the other vice president did?

    The question and the connection is just as strong if not stronger to Phantoms company than there is to Trump.

  45. I can produce evidence that Epstein was a close friend to one of the Primary people at the company Phantom works. Someone who introduced Epstein to a lot of people

    Can you produce evidence that Epstien took the fifth when asked if he socialised with that person in the presence of underage females?

  46. “If he can use tenuous connections to connect Trump to Epstein tenuous connections can be used to tie Phantom to him.”

    The connections between Trump and Epstein aren’t tenuous. There are photographs of the two of them together. So unless you have photographs of Epstein and Phantom together then your comparison is bullshit.

  47. do we know there aren’t photo’s of Phantom and him at a party ? There very well could be…. we don’t know…

    A very high level person in his company was connected to him… we don’t know what films exist.

  48. “do we know there aren’t photo’s of Phantom and him at a party ? There very well could be…. we don’t know…”

    We don’t. And in the absence of those facts we assume there aren’t any.

    “A very high level person in his company was connected to him… we don’t know what films exist.”

    If we are thinking of the same person I’m also pretty sure that the individual you are referring to has retired a while back (2009) and is only part of that company in an emeritus position.

  49. It’s a ‘six degrees of separation’ tenuity Seamus.

    Pat is attempting to link Phantom with Epstein through the company Phantom works for assumingly having business associations with Epstein.

    A ridiculous comparison in terms of personal linkage.

    Of course Pat conveniantly won’t divulge the alleged evidence so his insinuation can never be proven or unproven so the dye is already cast.

  50. Hey Pat,

    Can you produce evidence that Epstien took the fifth when asked if he socialised with that person in the presence of underage females?

    So?

  51. //do we know there aren’t photo’s of Phantom and him at a party ? There very well could be…. we don’t know… //

    Oh, for God’s sake stop being a child.
    We also “don’t know that there aren’t photos of” you and Epstein on a plane, and of Monica in bed with Trump and Epstein together, while Colm roars them on from his place near the window.

    What we don’t know, don’t count.

    What we DO know is that there is a photo and a video of Epstein and Trump in front of a group of young women and obviously talking about their various sexual charms.

    Deal with it.

  52. I agree with Pat that turnip is probably not a paedo

    His fetish seems to be more for high mileage used vehicles

  53. yes Seamus that is the person he is also a neighbor of Epstein….

    Phantom has held his position longer than 2009.

    I don’t believe Phantom has any connection, but the connections to Epstein is just as strong as the one Epstein has to Trump.

    Epstein was scum, but scum with a lot of money that associated with high level people everywhere he went. He was friends with a former business partner of Phantoms.

    And the facts are we don’t know if Phantom had any contact with him, he very well could have. Can he prove he didn’t ?

  54. I don’t believe Phantom has any connection, but the connections to Epstein is just as strong as the one Epstein has to Trump.[…]

    And the facts are we don’t know if Phantom had any contact with him, he very well could have. Can he prove he didn’t ?

    Yet again Pat,

    Can you produce evidence that Epstien took the fifth when asked if he socialised with that person in the presence of underage females?

    There is evidence that that was the case with Trump and Epstien. So?

  55. do you have access Paul to the investigation files ? No you don’t it’s an active investigation… and Epstein to lower the 45yrs he was facing as a 65yr old man was from sources starting to talk.

    I’m not even going to try and explain pleading the 5th to you, but you don’t understand what it means.

  56. I don’t need the investigation file Pat, it’s a matter of public record:

    In 2010, Epstein pled the Fifth when asked by a lawyer representing one of Epstein’s victims about his relationship with Trump

    Q: Have you ever had a personal relationship with Donald Trump?
    A. What do you mean by “personal relationship,” sir?
    Q. Have you socialized with him?
    A. Yes, sir.
    Q. Yes?
    A. Yes, sir.
    Q. Have you ever socialized with Donald Trump in the presence of females under the age of 18?
    A: Though I’d like to answer that question, at least today I’m going to have to assert my Fifth, Sixth, and 14th Amendment rights, sir.

    The story’s three and a half years old:

    https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/j59vm8/the-salacious-ammo-even-donald-trump-wont-use-in-a-fight-against-hillary-clinton-bill-clinton

    I perfectly understand the fifth but this isn’t a discussion about the fifth, it’s about you producing evidence that Epstien took the fifth when asked if he socialised with that person in the presence of underage females?

  57. “I don’t believe Phantom has any connection, but the connections to Epstein is just as strong as the one Epstein has to Trump.”

    Nonsense. Trump has met Epstein. They were friends. That can be proven. It is shown in photographs. Trump was in Epstein’s little black book. Whereas the connection with Phantom is that Epstein was friends with someone who used to work in the same company that Phantom works in. I, and likely you, wouldn’t know if Phantom has ever even met RM, never mind Epstein. The company he works for employs tens of thousands of people.

    So the connection between Trump and Epstein is much, much stronger than your implied connection between Epstein and Phantom. It is also one based on evidence, on the things we know, rather than on the things we don’t know.

  58. “The story’s three and a half years old:”

    To be fair to Trump, and I’m normally not, Epstein likely took the 5th on any question that mentioned underage girls. So if he was asked do you know Steve Smith? Yes. Did you ever socialise with Steve Smith in the presence of underage girls? 5th Amendment.

    So I wouldn’t read much into that.

  59. The story’s three years old but the quote is dated from 2010.

    So I wouldn’t read much into that.

    I would.

    But as I said, this isn’t about Epstien pleading the 5th or not, it’s about Pat producing evidence of a similar quality regarding Phantom’s work colleague.

  60. It’s about Pat trying his best to prove St Donald couldn’t possibly be associated with anything sleazy.

  61. Pat should be highlighting everything about Epstein just to show that there is at least one person more sleazy than Trump.

  62. Another thread brought beyond the point of absurdity.

    Time to shut it down, Pete.

  63. This comment thread is a disgrace. It’s almost as if its compiled by those suffering from BDS

  64. BDS ? Bullshit detection syndrome ?

  65. tsk tsk….. Trump just had an anal probe of his life by 20 Lawyers intent on finding a crime any crime…. they found NONE…. yet you say he is worse than a paedophile and you don’t think there is anything wrong with your judgement….

    fools and idiots are those that know things where there is no evidence……

  66. “fools and idiots are those that know things where there is no evidence……”

    Well you are the authority on knowing things where there is no evidence for it.

  67. like what ?

  68. Your Marxist education thing, just to go by a recent example. Most of your Clinton conspiracy theory stuff, to give another.

  69. Quick interruption. Bringing Phantom’s business into this is stupid. Desist.

  70. yes…. david

  71. The Marxist College Professors and Clinton’s crimes …. those are your examples of NO EVIDENCE….? ROFLMAO

    Well that proves it then, I’m right.

  72. “The Marxist College Professors and Clinton’s crimes …. those are your examples of NO EVIDENCE….? ROFLMAO”

    Yes. Your baseless conspiracy theories devoid of any evidence.

  73. The evidence for the Marxist Professors teaching Marx and labeling our founders as criminal is proven by the product they produce. The Clinton crimes are admitted to, and the evidence is irrefutable several people are going to go to jail for covering them up….

    but you keep believing what you believe Seamus.

  74. “The evidence for the Marxist Professors teaching Marx and labeling our founders as criminal is proven by the product they produce.”

    So prove it. Show me where they are Marxists or where the are producing Marxist.

    “The Clinton crimes are admitted to, and the evidence is irrefutable several people are going to go to jail for covering them up….”

    So prove it. Because every time you try to all you seem to be able to find is conjecture, nonsense or easily demolished conspiracy theories.

  75. Since I can’t discuss anyone here being associated with people who were friends with Epstein lets look at it from another angle…..

    You’re at a Club and Epstein is there, as the owner of the club you greet everyone. Does that make the club owner a paedophile ?

  76. How many Conservative/ right wing/ alt right mouthpices in the US are products of US univerities?

    The ‘evidence’ of what you allege is very far from the product they produce.

  77. You’re at a Club and Epstein is there, as the owner of the club you greet everyone. Does that make the club owner a paedophile ?

    No, but this:

    Much of Epstein’s “social life” involved very young women. “I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years,” Trump said at the time. “Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”

    Certainly proves a close association and in all probability knowledge of under age sexual abuse.

  78. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-10/jeffrey-epstein-dead-apparent-suicide

    ImperialBacon14.1k points6 hours ago

    I’m a corrections officer. This should never have been possible. During the intake process due to the nature of his crimes and being famous he should have already been on special watch. Then after the first attempt he would have been in a special cell. He would be in what we call a “pickle suit” it’s a green suit that you can’t tear or tie to anything. His blankets would be the same material. He would only get hygiene products under supervision. Only thing allowed in his cell would be a book and court papers. Then we would be monitored more closely. This is a huge failing on the jail. I want a massive investigation on how this was able to happen.

    Now he’ll be quickly buried at sea……

  79. and the event two years later when he threw him out of his club and barred him from it what does that show ?

  80. It shows that he had probable knowledge of his under age sexual abuse before their business deal went bad and soured their friendship.

  81. Trump is unlikely to have been involved in under-age stuff – he definitely prefers womenly women, but Bill on the other hand…..?

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/vanity-fair-trump-knew-jeffrey-epstein-had-incriminating-photos-of-bill-clinton/

    Back in 2015, onstage at the annual CPAC conference, Trump said something very interesting about Bill Clinton. “Nice guy,” he said. “Got a lot of problems coming up, in my opinion, with the famous island with Jeffrey Epstein. Lot of problems.”

    Trump knew what he was talking about. Vanity Fair reports that, shortly before CPAC, Trump was approached by David Pecker, who then owned the National Enquirer. Pecker visited Trump and brought along “an issue with a Prince Andrew and Epstein-related cover.” They were joined by Trump lawyer Michael Cohen.

    After the meeting, Trump called in Sam Nunberg, who then worked for him. Nunberg told Vanity Fair:

    “Michael was sitting in there when I came in, and the issue of the National Enquirer with the pictures of Prince Andrew was on his desk. He said not to tell anyone, but that Pecker had just been there and had brought the issue with him. Trump said that Pecker had told him that the pictures of Clinton that Epstein had from his island were worse.”

    What makes Vanity Fair’s report double fascinating is that the leftist magazine clearly implies that Epstein doesn’t have any dirt on Trump himself. On Twitter, leftist users have been tweeting hopefully about how this could ruin Trump’s presidency. Vanity Fair knows better. When push comes to shove, this case will involve high-ranking and extremely influential Democrats.

    Here’s the link to Vanity Fair

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/07/how-trump-kept-tabs-on-jeffrey-epstein

  82. Glasgow joke – Rangers fan has a couple of drinks and then mistakenly wanders into a Celtic pub. Boozers seize him and offer him a way out of his dilemma

    “here’s a die and you get to roll it. If you roll 1 – 5, we kick the shit out of you”

    “What if I roll a 6?”

    “Then you get to roll again!!”

    Unless he was murdered, Epstein rolled a 6 first-time and got to roll again.

  83. The Justice Department headed by the Attorney General is going to investigate. The Attorney General’s father hired Epstein at the Dalton School in NYC. I wonder if the AG will recuse himself?

  84. Vanity Fair is no “ leftist magazine “

    It’s staff is probably “limousine liberal “ , But it’s more of a celebrity magazine than anything else

  85. I would hope that the investigation into Epstein’s activities continues, now more than ever

    With a special focus on those NY and FL and other men who visited the sex slave island.

    I’d think that there are more prominent names involved than those we’ve heard.

  86. Just look, in the Wiki entry for Epstein, at vast indulgence granted to him by the legal authorites in Florida and elsewhere in 2006 – 2008. Despite excellent work by the police and FBI, the rock-solid case they had put together against him came to practically nothing. From about 50 witnesses (female minors) giving enough evidence to get him locked up for most of his life (including soliciting minors, farming the girls out to clients etc, installing camera in his home and filming them having sex), in the end he was offered a plea deal with him admitting to just one case of soliciting a prostitute.
    The FBI had prepared a 53-page indictment in June 2007, but that was kept from the jury.
    The victims, who had obviously gone to great pains to give evidence, weren’t even told of the plea deal and that their evidence wouldn’t be used.

    All of this was done under pressure from government.

    Finally,

    On June 30, 2008, after Epstein pleaded guilty to a state charge (one of two) of procuring for prostitution a girl below age 18,[81] he was sentenced to 18 months in prison. While most convicted sex offenders in Florida are sent to state prison, Epstein was instead housed in a private wing of the Palm Beach County Stockade and, according to the sheriff’s Office, was after ​3 1⁄2 months allowed to leave the jail on “work release” for up to 12 hours a day, 6 days a week. This contravened the sheriff’s own policies requiring a maximum remaining sentence of 10 months and making sex offenders ineligible for the privilege. He was allowed to come and go outside of specified release hours.

    Epstein’s cell door was left unlocked, and he had access to the attorney room where a TV was installed for him, before he was moved to the stockade’s previously unstaffed infirmary. He worked at the office of a foundation he had created shortly before reporting to jail; he dissolved it after he had served his time.

    The Sheriff’s Office received $128,000 from Epsteins’s non-profit to pay for the costs of extra services being provided during his work release. His office was monitored by “permit deputies” whose overtime was paid by Epstein. They were required to wear suits, checked in “welcomed guests” at the “front desk”. Later the Sheriff’s Office said these guest logs were destroyed per the department’s “records retention” rules (although inexplicably the Stockade visitor logs were not)…

    Epstein served almost 13 months before being released for a year of probation on house arrest until August 2010. While on probation he was allowed numerous trips on his corporate jet to his residences in Manhattan and the U.S. Virgin Islands

    The is level of offical connivance and injustice is simply breathtaking.

    And Trump was supposed to Drain the Swamp for us??

    (see from “Legal Proceedings” to “Civil Cases”)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein

  87. Acosta, the US Attorney who gave Epstein that sweet deal, was of course given a cabinet appointment under Mr. Trump

  88. ok whiner…..

    And he resigned…..

  89. Epstein ain’t dead…… they put him in Witsec

    He’s singing somewhere…….

  90. Epstein was a scumbag, he had a list of other scumbags…… was Trump part of it 17 years ago…. I don’t know. I doubt it, but there are a ton of politicians and business men that did indulge in his slime over the past 16yrs including an expresident.

    Now if you want to continue to indulge your Trump Derangement Syndrome I understand that to some of you he’s worst than Epstein…. that’s truly sad. You are entitled to not like him, you’re entitled to make up all the lies you want, or believe all the fantasies you want. It may seem like it doesn’t reflect on you, but it does. It shows that you are ruled by your emotions not facts.

    Fact is Trump was investigated for three years for the last 2 he had 20 Democrat and Clinton Loyal Lawyers looking for ANY CRIME none were found… they went back 10yrs on Cohan and over 15 on Manafort to find crimes, but with the top criminal Lawyers in country giving him an anal exam they found nothing.

    Those are the facts.

    Yet we have a whiner who says he knows better than all the attorneys and investigators….

    Believe what you want you’re entitled, but you’re not entitled to your own facts.

    Whiner.

  91. Phantom, on August 10th, 2019 at 10:48 PM Said:

    I would hope that the investigation into Epstein’s activities continues, now more than ever

    You would hope, would you? Putting asides your hopes, what do you think will happen now?

  92. Epstein was a scumbag, he had a list of other scumbags…… was Trump part of it 17 years ago…. I don’t know. I doubt it,

    This is evidence that tells reasonably objective people differently:

    Much of Epstein’s “social life” involved very young women. “I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years,” Trump said at the time. “Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”

    It shows that he had probable knowledge of his under age sexual abuse before their business deal went bad and soured their friendship.

  93. oh ok that’s your proof he indulged…… as you say…. where’s your evidence?

  94. Here are two images that the MSM is using as ‘proof’ of Epstein’s suicide

    https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/proxy/JOhe9zdIMbngyrdtEWxAOGaRnAVBhW27TkNTP-Jc-uP5ChB-ZYbh4-7KKLQgMzfGqVo5Y9Z1yf1chSoiY9TcdWo=s0-d

    Anyway, it doesn’t matter what anybody believes simply because it doesn’t matter what anybody believes

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBpgeFcUIAAA2rQ.jpg

  95. Oh ok that’s your proof he indulged…… as you say…. where’s your evidence?

    So now you’re going to attempt your usual semantics in order to try to talk your way around this? Okay.

    First of all, do you know the difference between evidence and proof? This is what I said:

    This is evidence that tells reasonably objective people differently

    Evidence is something which demonstrates that something exists or is true. The above is a direct quote from Trump, it is factual. That’s the evidence now let’s have a look at that evidence in more detail:

    I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years

    This shows that Epstein and Trump had a long term, at the very least, association.

    Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with

    This shows that Trump and Epstein socialised together which would imply a mutual freindship.

    It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.

    This establishes Trump’s and Epstein’s fondness for beautiful women but more importantly it demonstrates the Trump knew that for Epstein many of them were on the younger side

    Now the proof. Proof is:

    The cogency of evidence that compels acceptance by the mind of a truth or a fact

    In short, proof is the logical conclusion arrived at after objective analysis of the evidence presented.

    Now, I’ve never suggested that Trump involved himself in Epstein’s under age orgies on the Lolita Express because I haven’t seen any compelling evidence to prove it but what the evidence above establishes is that.

    Trump had at the very least a long association with Epstien
    Trump socialised with Epstein and thought him ‘a lot of fun to be with’
    Trump was aware of Epstein’s penchant for young girls.

    I’d suggest that the reasonable 5’8 wouldn’t think highly of the character of anyone who was aware of under age sex abuse and not only seemed to tolerate it but actually socialised with the perpetrator who he still thought was ‘a lot of fun to be with’. That this person wouldn’t be of the character that the reasonable 5’8 would consider suitable for friendship, (let alone to occupy the most powerful position on Earth) and would in all probablity consider him a ‘scumbag’ like those you mention above.

  96. The accusations against the two predators are exceptionally similar

    Why did trump travel on Epstein’s jet to the sex slave island? What was the purpose of the trip?

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/5749/both-trump-and-clinton-went-jeffrey-epsteins-sex-amanda-prestigiacomo

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