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RINA SHNERB

By Pete Moore On August 23rd, 2019

Rina Shnerb, a 17 year old Israeli girl, was murdered today by Palestinian terrorists. The IDF is hunting them. Remember, if the terrorists make it home they’ll be welcomed as heroes. If the IDF kills or catches them, their families will receive a cash reward. Don’t be like Palestinians.

88 Responses to “RINA SHNERB”

  1. Lets hunt….

  2. The bottom line here is that once the motives and the politics and the arguments are all stripped from whatever it was that drove the perpetrators, an innocent young woman was murdered – and the murderers must be caught and dealt with.

    If the Palestinians can really show that they are victims of state-sponsored terror, and they can, then why don’t they get after the enablers of that terror? These enablers reside in London, New York and Washington and if their skin was in the game, they wouldn’t be so willing to facilitate terror in Gaza and the West Bank

  3. Terrible that a young girl is killed. But she was part of the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians on illegally occupied land. Bibi’s response was to double down on the ethnic cleansing:

    “We will continue to strengthen settlement. We will deepen our roots and strike at our enemies,” Mr Netanyahu said.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-49447035

  4. But she was part of the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians on illegally occupied land.

    In that case, the woman who was run over and killed in Charleston was part of far-left authoritarian insurgency.

  5. I thought you people all thought people who crossed a border without permission to settle in a land that isn’t there’s are all invaders, including women and children. So by your definitions this girl was an invader.

  6. Let me know when I start murdering invaders.

    I thought you people all thought people who crossed a border without permission to settle in a land that isn’t there’s are economic enrichers.

  7. Don’t be like Palestinians.

    Or others closer to home. Glass houses and all that.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/mar/28/ministry-defence-apology-majella-ohare

  8. “Let me know when I start murdering invaders.”

    People of similar mind to yourself did in El Paso a few weeks ago.

    “I thought you people all thought people who crossed a border without permission to settle in a land that isn’t there’s are economic enrichers.”

    As usual you thought wrong.

  9. People of similar mind to yourself did in El Paso a few weeks ago.

    Clearly not.

    But you do think that people who cross a border without permission to settle in a land that isn’t there’s are economic enrichers. Your own words reveal that this is exactly what you think.

  10. In a statement Netanyahu offered his “deep condolences” to the family and wished swift recuperation to the wounded. “We will continue to strengthen [Jewish] communities. We will spread our roots deeper and strike out at our enemies.”

    Spread our roots deeper

    More illegal Israeli land theft means more dead Israelis.

  11. “Clearly not.”

    White supremacists, “invasion” myth peddlers… people like yourself.

    “But you do think that people who cross a border without permission to settle in a land that isn’t there’s are economic enrichers. Your own words reveal that this is exactly what you think.”

    I don’t think I’ve ever made sweeping statements of the sort. Primarily economic migrants are economically beneficial, both to themselves and to their host country. I have also said that indigenous cultures should have primacy in their own land and any new entrants should acclimatise and assimilate to that culture. That I believe, for example, Ireland should be a nation of the Irish. The Irish being a cultural construct and not a racial one. So a black guy who speaks Irish and plays Gaelic games is Irish.

  12. Israel sits on only a sliver of the Jewish lands……

  13. What are the Jewish lands?

  14. https://www.bible-history.com/geography/ancient-israel/israel-first-century.html

  15. There are no lines on that map. So how about you show what the boundary is?

  16. the edge of the map…….

  17. No evidence that there was ever Jewish settlements at the edges of those maps. So how is that land Jewish?

  18. This girl was almost as innocent as anyone can be in that conflict. But not quite as innocent as the infinitely higher number of Palestinian boys and girls that the Israelis have killed and that never get a mention in an ATW post.

  19. At the time of Herod that was Israel.

  20. Actually at the time of Herod large parts of modern Israel were not in the Herodian kingdom, while largely unsettled parts of modern Jordan were. Herod’s kingdom were also not Jewish, in the modern sense of the word. The practiced Second Temple Judaism, a religion that no longer exists, while modern Judaism didn’t exist at the time.

    So those lands were never Jewish, in the modern meaning of Judaism.

  21. Sadly she’s just another opportunity for people to to argue.

  22. “Sadly she’s just another opportunity for people to to argue.”

    What would you prefer?

  23. “Sadly she’s just another opportunity for people to to argue.”

    What would you prefer?

  24. I’d prefer people saying that another death be they Palestinian or Israeli is tragic and that a peaceful resolution of the conflict should be the preference of all people of good will.

  25. //At the time of Herod that was Israel.//

    No, it wasn’t.

    There was no “Israel” at the time of Herod. Herod was the king of Judea, which is only a part on the southern part (if you look at the map, you can see Judea marked).

  26. Except that wasn’t what you were saying when it was Palestinian children dying. You were making excuses for it.

  27. Seamus – oh yeah. I forgot how unbalanced you can become.

  28. When an Israeli is killed (illegally in another country) it is tragic. When a Palestinian is killed in their own country it is perfectly legitimate. So says Mahons.

  29. Not fair.

  30. When Israel was murdering Palestinians left right and centre, including men, women and children, including journalists and medical staff, Mahons made excuse after excuse after excuse for it. There was no rending of garments or gnashing of teeth then.

    So his comment that “another death be they Palestinian or Israeli is tragic” is frankly utter bullshit. His actual belief is another death of an Israeli is tragic.

  31. Not true Seamus, but don’t let that stop you.

  32. I recall asking you to be specific and factually support your claim about murder. I further recall your being unable to do so.

  33. You recall wrong. I cited the a specific report that showed that the overwhelming majority of the people killed were murdered. You rubbished the source because he contradicted your beliefs.

  34. Baruch Goldstein was a mass murderer and every one of his victims was tragic.

  35. No Seamus you couldn’t support your murder claim and it made you upset when I pointed that out.

  36. And the victims of the IDF?

  37. “No Seamus you couldn’t support your murder claim and it made you upset when I pointed that out.”

    I did support it. I supported it with a UN report that went through every shooting with a fine tooth comb. You ignored it at will. Not because it was wrong but because you wanted it to be wrong.

  38. Ha. A UN report. Ha.

  39. And I think you’ll find I became upset when you libeled me, by mistake you then claimed later. Which, being the cowardly piece of shit you are, you still haven’t apologised for.

    “Ha. A UN report. Ha.”

    As opposed to the “impartial” IDF investigations?

  40. I libeled you? Lol.

    As for the IDF I wouldn’t accept their report as impartial.

  41. “I libeled you? Lol.”

    For the record Seamus doesn’t care if his countrymen fought for the ISIS, the Taliban of AL Q. All of whom have murdered more Muslims than Israel. We’ve come full circle on HIS empathy for Muslims.

    You just made that up. And when you backtracked later you still didn’t have the balls to apologise.

  42. Seamus today and yesterday they fired rockets from Gaza into Israel…. they do their best to aim them at schools yet I don’t hear any condemnation from you about that, why not ?

    It’s ok for pallies to aim rockets at children in your view……

    This a regular event once or twice every couple of weeks they fire missiles at Israeli children and not a peep out of you…

  43. I’ve condemned them before. I’ll condemn them now if you like. They shouldn’t do it. The deliberate targeting of civilians is wrong and should be condemned no matter who is doing it. It is largely not relevant. The Iron Dome has made rocket attacks virtually ineffective. But the attempt should still be condemned.

    Will you condemn Israel’s slaughter of civilians?

  44. I read my past words with deep regret…why didn’t I use capital letters?

  45. Will you condemn Israel’s slaughter of civilians?

    of course.

  46. The girl’s parents will probably feel as little guilt as the guy who planted the bomb.

    Occupation brings out the worst in everybody.

  47. that’s a disgraceful comment Noel

  48. I agree Noel.

  49. shame on you both…. you’re blaming the girl and her parents for the girl being murdered.

  50. Patrick – the parents choose to bring up their family where they did. That particular settlement was 100% confiscated land. I’m sure the Prime Minister danced in his heart with so sympathetic a victim this close to the election.

  51. No. I am not blaming the girl. She was raised with precious little choice of where to be. Her parents on the other hand choose to live in a provocation.

  52. ahh well the arabs consider all of Israel a provocation so in your view it’s ok to kill them then ?

  53. No. The only person I can recall calling for mass killings of either side is you.

  54. yes yes I’m evil we know, but you and Noel said it’s the girls parents fault that she was killed because they lived in disputed land, not me.

    Follow suit noel saying it makes sense, by that reasoning any family on the Island of Ireland that is British is fair game to kill because they are on occupied Irish land.

    It’s disturbing that you agree.

  55. //Follow suit noel saying it makes sense, by that reasoning any family on the Island of Ireland that is British is fair game to kill because they are on occupied Irish land.

    It’s disturbing that you agree.//

    Patrick, it should be more disturbing for you that you imagine I said it is “fair game” to kill that girl.
    I never said, or thought, anything of the sort.

    I think both the wretch you killed her and her parents committed disgusting crimes based on sectarian hatred or racial supremacy, even if the two crimes are very different.

  56. We said they should feel guilt, not that it was tear fault. Surely you aren’t denying you’ve advocated carpet bombing Gaza.

  57. I’m all for it I have said repeatedly “drop pamphlets telling them that it was coming and then carpet bomb it with napalm”

    did they warn her they were going to bomb her? NO

    big difference.

    Why should they feel guilt if you aren’t blaming them ? You can’t avoid the fact Mahons that you’re blaming the Parents because they chose to live there. I expect that from Noel… not you, but you just defended the position…. twice

  58. Patrick, their crime was to turn themselves, and their daughter, into political weapons to deprive Palestinians of their land and the chance of a state.
    They made themselves part of a deliberate ethnic settlement aimed at creating a claim to a territory.

    That’s in breach of international law.

    If they hadn’t done that, then of course their child would be alive now. But that of course doesn’t mean they’re responsible for her death.

  59. sorry Noel you can’t have it both ways and you’ve made it clear that YOU put the blame on her parents because they live in disputed land it’s their fault….

  60. By that reasoning any family on the Island of Ireland that is British is fair game to kill because they are on occupied Irish land.

    Maybe but you’d need to have a fairly messed up reasoning process to draw that analogy.

    Did they warn her they were going to bomb her? NO

    I don’t think the Israeli Navy warned for kids playing football on a Gaza beach when they were obliterated by a shell from a mile out at sea either.

  61. the navy killed those kids by accident but it was their parents fault for taking them to the beach…. according to you and Noel that’s the way it goes….. Those kids parents should feel guilty.

  62. A target hit by a high explosive shell, targetted by satallite imaginging, guided by lazer and lauched by a multi million (billion) $ war machine a mile out at sea doesn’t do accidents Pat.

    It was their parents fault for taking them to the beach…. according to you and Noel that’s the way it goes….. Those kids parents should feel guilty.

    Noel can speak for himself Pat but I’ve said no such thing however, as was the case of Rina Shnerb, too bad….wrong place wrong time….shit happens

  63. A target hit by a high explosive shell, targetted by satallite imaginging, guided by lazer and lauched by a multi million (billion) $ war machine a mile out at sea doesn’t do accidents Pat.

    really….. so the military hit’s bullseye with every shot,,,,, and the beach incident was not guided ordinance it was dumb ordinance

  64. The beach incident was not guided ordinance it was dumb ordinance

    Unless you’ve just made that up I’d like you to post evidential proof to it’s veracity.

  65. well this attack on the beach by the israelis that killed four children certainly wasn’t using ‘dumb ordinance.’

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-used-drone-to-kill-4-children-playing-on-gaza-beach-in-2014-1.6365860

  66. still wasn’t intentional

    four cousins were killed in two separate drone strikes after they were mistaken for Hamas fighters

    from your link

  67. Still wasn’t intentional

    The IRA say the same about civilian casualties.

    So, that makes it alright then.

  68. no

  69. Double standards?

  70. Why should they feel guilt for using themselves and their family as political pawns? The question answers itself.

  71. you really think the people that live in these settlements view themselves as moving there to be pawns….. I think they just want a place to live. As I’m sure the pallies do, they’ve been thrown out of every arab country.

  72. Paul McMahon, on August 24th, 2019 at 2:39 PM Said:
    Double standards?

    No the two things aren’t comparable. One is a legitimate military that can be held responsible, the other are terrorists.

  73. The people in the settlements move there Because a condo can cost less than it does in Jerusalem or Tel Aviv

    But there also is a strong religious/nationalist reason for many Jews who chose to move to those places

  74. No the two things aren’t comparable

    Absolutely they are comparable. At the end of each of the comparatives the result is dead children. What you want to do is condemn one killing as murder while excusing the other as accidental because the obliteration of four young kids was done by guys you agree with.

    It’s absolutely, blatant double standards.

    But there also is a strong religious/nationalist reason for many Jews who chose to move to those places

    Yep, in many cases it can also be interpreted as sectarian / ethnic supremacy.

  75. was done by guys you agree with.

    not that I agree with. The military is accountable under the Law when they do something wrong it’s investigated and if negligence or malace is found they are prosecuted.

    The others are TERRORISTS accountable to no one who act criminally outside the law. Their very existence is a crime.

    They are the same in your mind because that’s what you’ve been conditioned to believe, but that conditioning has warped your sense of right and wrong on this topic.

  76. The military is accountable under the Law when they do something wrong it’s investigated and if negligence or malace is found they are prosecuted

    Oh don’t talk absolute rubbish. ‘Terrorists’ go to jail or are killed, the state investigates itself and more often than not exonerates its agents. You excuse at best wanton recklessness and at worst targetted murder because it was done by guys you like.

    They are the same in your mind because that’s what you’ve been conditioned to believe, but that conditioning has warped your sense of right and wrong on this topic.

    Pat, you’re maybe the most and certainly one of the most programmed, conditioned people on this forum and your argument regarding that conditioning afecting your moral compass is one which could apply directly to you. You recently admitted that you had no problem with terrorists being proxied by the US, you should also be as honest with these beach killings.

  77. I’m sorry I don’t buy the line that it was intentional.

    As for being conditioned I would agree I have deeper conditioning than any of you.

  78. I’m sorry I don’t buy the line that it was intentional

    As I said, the IRA said the same thing.

  79. one we can investigate if they are the other you can’t

  80. Don’t be ridiculous.

    Here’s the rub :

    ‘Terrorists’ go to jail or are killed, the state investigates itself and more often than not exonerates its agents.

    Go and read the Widgery report into the Bloody Sunday ‘unlawful killings’. There were four British soldiers convicted of murder in Ireland, none serving more than five years, despite the ‘security forces’ having a 51.3% civilian kill body count whereas with Republicans it’s conservatively estimated that they’ve served around 100,000 years in jail.

    Hundreds, (thousands?) of Palestinian civilians have been killed by the IDF. How many IDF soldiers have been charged with murder.

    You are excusing at the very least reckless death becuase you agree with the killers.

  81. This isn’t the troubles…..

  82. swarm the city of Jerusalem and destroy all Jewish people living there

    PA President Abbas: ‘Millions Of Fighters’ Will Take Over Jerusalem
    ‘Not a single penny’ of payments to terrorists will be stopped

    Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas threatened this week that “million of fighters” would swarm Jerusalem and topple the Jewish state’s capital city, warning that “no matter how many houses and how many settlements they declare that they [plan to build] here and there—they shall all be destroyed.”

    Abbas, in an Arabic language speech at Jalazone Refugee Camp near Ramallah that was heavy with threats of destruction, doubled down on the Palestinian government’s policy of using public money to pay convicted terrorists and their families, telling his audience, “We will not accept their designation of our martyrs as terrorists. Our martyrs are the martyrs of the homeland.”

    Abbas went on to rally those in attendance to swarm the city of Jerusalem and destroy all Jewish people living there. His remarks are the clearest sign to date that the leader has no interest in playing a role in a revamped peace process spearheaded by President Donald Trump’s White House.

  83. Strange that the Jerusalem Post version of the story doesn’t mention that Abbas went on to say that all Jewish people living there would be destroyed. Seems like a weird thing for them to leave out. There doesn’t seem to be a quote from Abbas saying that. It seems to be something that was just made up by Adam Kredo of “Free Beacon”.

  84. This isn’t the troubles…..[…]

    One is a legitimate military that can be held responsible, the other are terrorists.

    The military is accountable under the Law when they do something wrong it’s investigated and if negligence or malace is found they are prosecuted.

    So this alleged responsibility and accountability didn’t apply in ‘the troubles’ and doesn’t apply in Israel / Gaza then?

    The state investigates itself and more often than not exonerates its agents.

    That’s what happened in both cases.

    You excuse at best wanton recklessness and at worst targetted murder because it was done by guys you like.

  85. So this alleged responsibility and accountability didn’t apply in ‘the troubles’ and doesn’t apply in Israel / Gaza then?

    you have such tunnel vision…… you’re combining things that weren’t meant to be combined out of reflex. When I said This isn’t the troubles….. that was a stand alone to try and pull your head out of that mode of thinking.

    The other state was also stand alone… Armies are Legal entities, Terrorists are criminal enterprises… by it’s nature terrorism is unaccountable.

    As for this remark…..

    The state investigates itself and more often than not exonerates its agents.

    This does happen in every country every city in the world and to me there is no greater crime…. I find it to be the one thing that I will scream about until they put me under.

    There is no Justice unless there is one set of Laws and they applies to EVERYONE EQUALLY race religion color creed rich or poor.

    Without that mankind will never evolve, we will continue to kill each other and we are nowhere near it anywhere in the world…. we’re striving hard for it. The next year will be a major test for the united states so we shall see.

  86. Patrick

    You must have screamed yourself sick then over the degree of Justice that was applied to the My Lai massacre.

  87. “This does happen in every country every city in the world and to me there is no greater crime”

    So if it does happen, and often counter to the actual facts of the situation, does it not put paid to any idea that state agents such as the military are accountable? If the state, deliberately, refuses to hold them to account then to whom are they accountable?

  88. You have such tunnel vision…… you’re combining things that weren’t meant to be combined out of reflex.

    Combining things tha weren’t meant to be combined out of reflex eh?

    By that reasoning any family on the Island of Ireland that is British is fair game to kill because they are on occupied Irish land.

    Who’s combining things that weren’t meant to be combined there?

    The military is accountable under the Law when they do something wrong it’s investigated and if negligence or malace is found they are prosecuted

    No the two things aren’t comparable. One is a legitimate military that can be held responsible, the other are terrorists

    Who said that too? Are you suggesting that different sets of legal standards should be applied in different states?

    The state investigates itself and more often than not exonerates its agents.

    That’s what happened both in the state of NI and Israel.

    Pat, in your attempts at sophistry you’ve talked yourself into illogical contradiction.