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No, Prime Minister

By Mahons On September 4th, 2019

It would be funny if it wasnt serious. A British Prime Minister smacked around like a red headed stepchild because he thought he could will a divided Parliament his way. Leadership is not being the loudest person in the room, though sometimes people mistake it for that. It involves persuasion. It involves convincing those of a different opinion by reasoning and at times principled compromise. It is not trying to bypass consensus by manipulating the system, even legally. We have too often seen people in power try to win the day’s headlines instead of accomplish what needs to be done for the common good. The Romans loved the circus, but look what happened to them. Whatever the outcome, it is time for the serious people to come forward.

14 Responses to “No, Prime Minister”

  1. who decides what is for the common good ?

  2. It isn’t a decision so much as a recognition.

  3. based on whose recognition ?

    What you would recognize as the common good wouldn’t be the same as what I recognize as the common good….

    That’s why elections are important. We elect the people we think we do the right thing for the common good based on what the say they will do. That is both ours and the brits system.

  4. It involves convincing those of a different opinion by reasoning and at times principled compromise.

    Yes. But this situation is rather different. You see, these people were not prepared to see reason much less compromise. BREXIT was a take it or Leave it issue. You either agreed or disagreed. If the later then why stand on a Conservative manifesto that, if elected, you would implement it and not thwart it ? Hardly Reasonable!

  5. Mark

    I presume you are talking about the 21 Conservative rebels. They are obeying the Conservative manifesto. They voted to trigger article 50 and as far as I know they all also voted to approve the withdrawal agreement which would have delivered leave had it passed. But being MPs they also have the duty to vote according to their individual conscience to ensure a policy is conducted safely and properly and it is perfectly appropriate for them to reject a ‘no deal’ Brexit which is not the same thing as rejecting the referendum result itself which they haven’t done.

  6. I think it is a more objective goal, the idea goes back at least to Aristotle, and has been discussed by most of the great minds of Western Civilization. People can deliberate the means of getting there, but good faith is warranted yet absent here.

  7. These people were not prepared to see reason much less compromise.

    Which people are that Mark and what compromises are you referring to? With an asbsolutely huge minority of 48.1% Brexit was never going to run smoothly unless there was compromises made to that minority, compromises which sum zero game Brexiteers refused to even consider.

    IMO the greatest portion of blame for the present mess lies with the backwoods men & women of the DUP and in the next GE I hope that the electorate in the state of NI don’t forget that at every twist & turn the DUP voted against the best interests of its constituents.

  8. Whatever this post is about, it has nothing to do with Brexit.

    The manipulation is all on the side of the Remainers, who will not allow the UK to leave the EU under any circumstances. A deal, no deal, it does not matter. This Parliament will simply not permit the British people to get what we voted for.

    Legally, illegally, anyhow, they will game, rig and manipulate to do it.

    Today the Commons voted to remove Royal Prerogative powers from the Prime Minister. This is as unconstitutional as you can get. The corrupt Speaker decided that the Bill does not require Royal Assent to become Law. This is as bent, crooked and rotten as Parliament can be.

    Please, don’t tell people who simply want to live under the same sovereignty, independence as self-governance as Americans do to listen to the crooks who simply won’t allow it.

    Fuck that.

  9. A (moving) picture paints a thousand words:

    https://images.app.goo.gl/zpkP4w1cqxEtJsz16

  10. Here is a better picture Paul. It shows the “Leader of the House of Commons” having a kip on the front bench (his feet are almost touching the mace) during last night’s debate. It went viral on Twitter within a couple of hours and we will see it a lot during the election as a Labour poster, with various captions no doubt. But it reeks of the sense of entitlement and contempt for opponents that many Tories have always possessed.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jacob-rees-mogg-brexit-debate-lying-down-boris-johnson-tories-ed-miliband-a9091156.html

  11. Yeah I’ve seen it Peter, along with the quote:

    ‘We cannot have people loathing about, doing nothing and expecting the state to finance their lifestyles’

    Attributed to the specky bloke in the picture swinging the lead.

  12. All the picture needed was an Indian servant standing beside him waving a giant fan and a street urchin kneeling by his side begging for crumbs.. 😉

  13. With an asbsolutely huge minority of 48.1% Brexit was never going to run smoothly unless there was compromises made to that minority……

    the compromise being…….Remain

  14. No Allan, here’s a sensible compromise suggested by a dyed in the wool, ardent leaver:

    The Single Market is the EEA, the European Economic Area. No-one is proposing to leave it, no-one is campaigning to leave it, and the UK will not leave it. The referendum is about whether or not the UK will remain in the EU. The question has nothing to do with the Single Market.